COSMIC DISCLOSURE: REVEALING THE ORIGINAL SECRET SPACE VEHICLES WITH MARK MCCANDLISH

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I hope you’re having an amazing day, and maybe after you see this episode, it’s going to become even more amazing. I’m here with Corey Goode, and we have a special guest today, Mark McCandlish, one of the original thirty-nine whistleblowers who came forward at the Disclosure Project event on May 9, 2001, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. to disclose the reality of the extraterrestrial presence on Earth.

|So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: All right. We’re going to start now with an intro and overview of Mark, in his own words, from his background. Let’s take a look.

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MARK’S STORY

Mark McCandlish: My electronics aptitude was so high right out of high school that the Air Force was really enthusiastic about getting me to work on something like a weapons control system on aircraft. So that’s where I wound up going.

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After I got out of the Air Force, I used the GI Bill to go to Brigham Young University, studying design illustration. And then I went to Art Center College of Design as an automotive design major and eventually changed my major to just straight illustration when I began to see that the bottom was about to fall out of the automotive industry, and they weren’t going to be hiring any designers in the late ’70s, early ’80s.

And that’s when I went to work for the defense industry.

I had been approached by the Calabasas Division of Lockheed, and I think this was right at or right before the time that Lockheed joined with Martin Marietta and became Lockheed Martin.

And the gentleman that had asked me to prepare this illustration said that, “We can’t tell you what it looks like. We can’t tell you anything about the aircraft, only that it’s the second generation in an existing family of extremely high speed, high altitude aircraft.

And so we need you to draw a picture of something that looks really fast.

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So I looked around, and the two fastest aircraft that I was aware of at the time was, of course, the SR-71 Blackbird, which is Mach 3 , and then the prototype XB-70 Valkyrie that was built by Rockwell International’s North American Aircraft Division.

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So I combined features from those two aircraft, and I thought, this is a really cool-looking aircraft.

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And I went in, and much to my surprise, they had a couple of engineers from Lockheed Skunk Works there.

And it was an order gentleman with glasses, a receding hairline. And they were actually wearing little white lab coats with the pocket protector and the slide rule and this kind of thing.

And so I opened up my sketchpad, and I turned around, and I slid it across this big, beautiful, mahogany table in this conference room.

And right away, I could see that something was wrong. The gentleman both took on an appearance of being kind of startled, like they were seeing something they weren’t expecting.

And then one of the two gentlemen – the man with the glasses, the receding hairline – you could literally see his face turn red. You could see beads of sweat starting to form on his forehead and his lip. And his hands started to tremble.

And he slams his hand down on the notepad, and he says, “What are these canards, and what are these winglets out on the wings? Those would be torn off at Mach 17 . . .” And he stopped himself right there as he said “Mach 17”.

And I thought, “That’s 12,000 miles an hour [19,300 kph]!”

And they were both upset. And they were upset in a way that, at first, I thought it was because I didn’t do a good job, because the illustration didn’t look credible.

And then I thought, “No, this is something else.” They’re reacting because I’ve hit something. I’ve hit the nail right on the head with this illustration, and they may perceive that what I’ve done here is because of some kind of a leak – some kind of an information leak.

And so the first thing I did was I tried to assure them by saying, “Well, look, I’ll be happy to illustrate whatever you want, but the fact is, I just don’t know what your aircraft looks like because nobody’s told me. They said they can’t tell me. The design is classified. So what I’ve done here is I’ve combined most of the most interesting features from these two aircraft – the two fastest aircraft that I know of – the SR-71 and the XB-70.”

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And so then they kind of calmed down a little bit and relaxed. But at that point, the cat was already out of the bag. They’d said “Mach 17”.

It really pointed out to me that there were some programs that were going on. And, of course, you always assume that there’s something classified going on all the time behind the scenes.

But as far as aircraft design was concerned, it really helped to illustrate that there were things going on – advanced projects – that were really pushing the envelope in terms of material use, high speed, high altitude and propulsion systems that had never been seen before – these supersonic combustion ramjet or scramjet engines.

And so it was an eye-opener. That’s for sure. It let me know that there were other things out there that the general public didn’t know about.

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David: Okay. So what you see there is very interesting. Here’s a guy who’s describing having a direct one-on-one meeting with insiders from Lockheed Martin Skunk Works.

And they told him that canards and winglets on the plane would fall off at Mach 17. So clearly, he had access to the real deal.

Corey, what were your thoughts as you watched this clip?

Corey: It was pretty interesting. I had seen information about these early planes that they were developing, and they were very, extremely aerodynamic.

But when he was talking, for some reason – it popped in my mind – I remember a type of engineered crystal that they were using that they would put on the outside of these craft that . . . You know, like piezoelectric crystals. If you hit them, they’ll give off an electrical charge?

David: Yeah, sure.

Corey: These convert friction heat into electric charges.

David: Oh, that makes sense.

Corey: And then the skin of the plane would have this crystalline material painted over it. And then the heat would be turned into electricity. The electricity would transfer through the skin of the plane into something that would quickly store the electricity. So it would be kind of like a heat sink.

It would be pulling electricity very quickly, and heat couldn’t build up.

David: Well, let me just mention that there are known things called photo cells, which we already have in electronics, where they can sense a light source and actually convert that light to electricity.

So this idea of basically what you’re describing as a thermal couple on the outside of the plane, that’s totally plausible within electronics that that could work. I just never thought of it before. It’s fascinating.

Corey: Right. I’d forgotten about it, too. It just popped in my head when I was watching that clip.

David: So Mach 17, . . . of course, some of the people watching this may not be aware that conventional aeronautics . . . even Mach 4, Mach 5, is considered extraordinary.

What are the speeds that you encountered with some of the craft that are in the classified world that he got a little taste of here?

Corey: Well, yeah, there was a lot of talk of craft that were being developed between Mach 9 and Mach 20 . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that were being developed that were mostly for flying in the atmosphere – test craft to get to a point where they could develop craft that could fly in and out of the atmosphere.

David: So is it normal for somebody like Mark McCandlish to have this background of industrial design – he said that he majored, at first, in drawing automobiles and getting really nice technical illustrations of them, and then in his case, going into the defense industry – that a guy with those skills could end up potentially in some kind of classified program?

Corey: Absolutely. They need people of all skill sets. You’re going to run across a lot of draftsmen, artists, that worked for the government that have a lot of knowledge like he does.

David: Now, another thing that is interesting to me was he mentions Brigham Young University. And Pete, tongue-in-cheek, called that whole area – Utah, Idaho, etc. – “Mormania”. And it was originally a joke, but apparently, on the inside, they now actually use that term – that what I’ve heard from him – and I want to get your thoughts on this – is that many people who worked for the CIA and other intelligence agencies are recruited from Mormon states in America, that there is a Mormon component to the black ops world.

So I’m curious if you ever heard anything about that?

Corey: Yes. I read on the smart glass pad about how different Mormon groups were creating vaults underground and were reporting back to the intelligence agencies that they were encountering beings when they were trying to build their facilities underground.

David: Beings that were not human?

Corey: Correct.

David: When we see a guy like McCandlish coming out and talking about this, what do you think he had to gain from this? In other words, I don’t see any evidence. I don’t think he’s ever written a book.

He kind of went off the radar after Disclosure Project in 2001. Now here it is, 16 years later, he pops up again.

So do you think that there’s any self-interest or manipulation going on here? What’s his objective?

Corey: One of the things you see quite often with whistleblowers is that in the process of being a whistleblower, they end up losing their careers. And he pretty much lost his career within all of the defense industry and basically was in hiding for a while from what I hear.

David: All right. We’re going to now continue with some more footage for you to check out. This is the second part of our groundbreaking interview with Mark McCandlish. Let’s check it out.

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COVERT CRAFT

Mark McCandlish: Well, this is a story that came to me through another aviation artist that . . . One of my contemporaries met this fellow and a friend of his at an air show at the old Chino Air Base where they brought a lot of the aircraft after the Second World War to be demolished and scrapped for their aluminum and so forth.

And he was saying that this fellow had a friend who was a former astronaut – it was one of the Buzz astronauts, Buzz Aldrin or Buzz Carpenter – one of these gentlemen.

And this individual was flying a Learjet, ferrying it from one location to another, and he was passing over North Central Nevada at the time – broken clouds and this kind of thing.

And he comes out of some clouds and into an open air space, and below him and to the left is this black aircraft that looks sort of like a flattened-out football shape.

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And on the back end of it, it has not only a vertical stabilizer or a tail on the top, but there was another one down below.

A lot of people don’t know that the early A-12 version of the SR-71 Blackbird also had the same feature. It had a folding vertical stabilizer on the ventral surface on the underside of the aircraft.

But this aircraft had an unusual inlet design. It wasn’t the typical thing where you have a big hole hanging down underneath the wing where the air for the engine comes in.

This thing had, what looked like, a pair of these triangular-shaped NACA ducts near the leading edge of this.

There were no wings, no tail feathers – nothing. It was just sort of a lifting body design, like a flattened-out football shape.

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Control surfaces along the leading edges and on the trailing edges, but the inlets were a pair of NACA ducts.

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And then at the back end were a pair of trapezoid-shaped exhaust ports. But then at the midsection, the widest part of this platform, was a ridge. And along the trailing edge of the ridge were what appeared to be a number of fuel injectors pointing outward where it was obvious at some point in the flight regime of the aircraft, there would be something expelled from those ports.

And it was actually operating kind of like the whole back end of the aircraft was a linear aerospike engine, which has that kind of a configuration.

The pilot is there, and he looks at this plane and realizes that if he hadn’t seen it directly that he might have collided with it in the clouds.

And so he gets ahold of the ground control operator for that region, and he says, “Why didn’t you inform me that there was another aircraft in my vicinity?”

And he said, “Well . . . “ The response was, “. . . because there isn’t any. We don’t have anything on radar at all.”

And he says, “Well, the hell there isn’t.” He says, “I’m looking at a plane right now. It’s black. It has the two tails.” He described what he was seeing, “I’m in his 5 o’clock position.”

And there’s a long silence on the radio.

And then all of a sudden, he can see in the window, the cockpit – it’s kind of like the X-15 cockpit where it’s mostly aircraft with just a little tiny window and a splitter in the front. And he sees the face of the pilot look around at him like this, and like, “Oh, crap!”, and banks away and goes into one of the clouds and disappears.

So a little while later, there’s another voice that comes onto the radio – a deeper voice, a more serious voice, and he says, “Okay, pilot zone, so you need to change your heading and come in to Nellis Air Force Base, and we need you to land there and be debriefed. And I want you to roll out and stay at the end of the runway. You will be met at the end of the runway.”

And so then they take him in, and they put him through interrogation and make it real clear that what he saw was something that doesn’t officially exist, and he’s not to talk about it.

But eventually, apparently, he did tell someone, including this colleague of mine who shared the story with me.

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David: The first thing I thought of when he said a ‘squashed football’ was your description of the Dark Fleet craft which you said have a dark teardrop-type of shape.

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Corey: Right.

David: But based on the illustration that McCandlish made here, is that what we’re looking at, or is this something else?

Corey: I knew immediately, the way he was describing the craft with the two fins, the two stabilizers, that it was a test craft from the military. I’ve read before about these vertical stabilizers, that are on the top and bottom, that, at a certain stage in flight, the bottom one drops to give them further stabilization.

David: Well, he had the location right, because he said this witness saw this over Nevada.

Corey: Right.

David: So there you go. That’s your Area 51.

Corey: Right. That’s a good place to see test craft.

I’ve received quite a few emails from pilots, that don’t want to go public because of their jobs, that have described seeing very similar things.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah.

David: One of the insiders that I have had contact with – I met through Pete Peterson – he claims to have been able to build eight different types of anti-gravity device. And he worked on aerospace design.

He has described that a lot of times these planes were built, and then they were mothballed. And he believed that the purpose was money laundering – that the plane was said to cost much more than it really did. It justifies these budgets.

The actual money spent on it might be much less, and then the less of the money goes to some other thing. Have you heard of that, and if so, where’s the money going?

Corey: Yes. A lot of these contracting companies are . . . I mean, everyone’s heard about $200 hammers, $300 toilet seats . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that kind of thing. That occurs all the time to bring in extra money for black budgets. So that’s fairly common.

David: What might some of those black budgets be? I mean, wouldn’t this plane be the goal . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . or would it be something else?

Corey: Something like this probably came from a budget from a craft or something they were building that was known. And then they overcharged for that craft . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . and funneled that money into a craft like this. And a lot of times they’ll build these craft. They’ll put millions of dollars into building a craft like this just to prove a certain concept for future craft that they’ll fly around a few times, and then they mothball them or take them apart.

David: Right. So given the design and the shape of this particular craft, what type of usefulness to you think it might have?

Corey: I think they were trying to increase stabilized flight past Mach 3 to 5, most likely.

David: It doesn’t really look like it would capture air like a wing. Do you think there’s some sort of anti-gravity component to how this works?

Corey: No. This is a conventional jet. It’s just really advanced technology. It’s kind of like what he was talking about – sort of like a ramjet. It brings in the air at the wings and expels the gases and air out the back to propel it.

David: All right. Next, we have another very interesting and strange story from Mark McCandlish, which I’m sure you’re going to like. Let’s check it out.

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SURPRISING TECHNOLOGY

Mark McCandlish: There was a gentleman, and I don’t remember where he was located, but he had a custom of jogging early in the morning with his dog. And one of the challenges that he made for himself was he would jog on this path that would go up to the top of this hill near the town where they had the city water supply. It was a big tower.

And it was a heavily wooded area with a clearing around the tower itself.

And as they’re jogging up the hill, he comes out into the clearing where the tower is, and here is this aircraft. And it looks like a conventional jet aircraft standing on its tail, and it’s orbiting this water tower silently.

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No jet engine noise, no dust being kicked up or anything, and the pilot is just sort of playing.

And he’s just standing there with his mouth hanging open, and his dog is barking and really going crazy.

And while the pilot’s doing this, he kind of looks over his shoulder, and he sees the jogger there. “Oh, no!”

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So he lights up the after burner, and off he goes using conventional power.

So it just pointed out that there must be some other things that they’re incorporating and folding into some of the . . . maybe even the standard issue aircraft that are giving them abilities that are not completely obvious when looking at them from the outside.

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David: This is one of those stories that seems to stretch the credulity a little bit. What is your feeling about the idea that conventional aircraft might have some sort of anti-gravity that would allow them to do those types of tricks?

Corey: Well, it’s definitely not something that would be standard issue on one of the fleets right now out to sea.

David: Right.

Corey: But they have retrofitted conventional-looking craft with anti-gravity for specific reasons to be used, I guess, for special missions. It’s not something that a lot of the different lieutenant commanders out there in the Navy that fly jets . . . they’re not going to have this or know about this type of technology being incorporated into conventional craft. But it is something I’ve heard of. I haven’t seen it with my own eyes.

David: I’ve also had Peterson tell me that military aircraft are all now – or at least many of them – are equipped with a technology that he called ‘masking’. Are you familiar with that and what that’s all about?

Corey: Yeah, masking is a common term. It just means ‘camouflage’. It’s an electronic camouflage.

David: So would a masked craft still be visible once the masking is turned on?

Corey: No. No.

David: Right.

Corey: That’s the whole point of it. It pretty much . . . You’re seeing what’s behind the craft.

David: So what would the usefulness be of a pilot able to back the tail of a plane down and then turn circles around a tower like that?

Corey: That’s not really the point. The point is to be able to loiter and hover to engage targets like a helicopter would and then having the supersonic flight capabilities as well.

It’s one of the reasons also they developed the Harrier.

David: Sure.

Corey: Then you have the vertical takeoff and landing capabilities as well.

David: Now do you think it’s possible, given that he seemed to have been turning circles around a tower, that the anti-gravity, in some way, was able to partially attach to the mass of the tower and use it as a center of balance or a pivot point for him?

Corey: No. Most likely what occurred is . . . They have a lot of this smart flight technology in drones now. And it’s usually a camera that has intelligent computers connected to it.

The camera acts like an eye, focuses on like a tower, and then it will loiter and hover around a certain object.

David: Ah. So this could have all been done automatically. He was just having fun.

Corey: Right.

David: He doesn’t have to do any fancy flying at all.

Corey: Yes. It looked like he took a little time out of a normal test flight to play around a little bit on his own.

David: All right. Now we’re going to see a very interesting section of this interview where McCandlish is describing a UFO sighting that actually led to photographic evidence. Let’s take a look.

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THE CEDARVILLE UFO

Mark McCandlish: It was a fellow that I knew – his name was Arthur Reed – who took this photograph in 1982. He was just exploring northern California by car.

He was driving somewhere about 10 miles north of Cedarville, and he saw a large group of people that had pulled off the road, and they were all sort of looking off to the west.

And so he, just out of curiosity, stopped to see what it was. And off in the distance was this immense, black thing – big, large, V-shaped vehicle.

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And the shape of it was what kind of gave it away as the possible product of Lockheed Skunk Works, because it had the same sort of faceted flat surfaces like a Stealth Fire.

The craft looked an awful lot like a large black V, and in the middle of each of those two wings, or legs, or whatever you want to call them, which were really thick and not aerodynamic in any way, shape or form, but there was a large white sphere.

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And then there was one up in the very front where they kind of came together. And there were seams on the surface of the thing that looked like the different parts of the vehicle could be articulated and folded up into almost a triangular shape.

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There were a series of red lights that went from the nose back towards part of the fuselage where the wings joined together.

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And the thing was in a nose down, bank to the left, and it was hovering in this position about maybe 250 feet off the ground.

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And it was maybe a quarter of a mile to a half a mile off the roadway.

Very large. He said that he thought that this thing was somewhere between 300 and 600 feet on a side. It was that big.

He said that it was making this low, pulsating, humming sound, almost like something you’d see in a science fiction movie, sort of this [whirring sound] kind of sound. But he said it was so powerful, so loud, that you could feel it in your chest – that your chest would kind of vibrate and resonate with the sound.

And the people that were there that had pulled off the road represented kind of like a cross-section of what you’d find in America – the deeply religious people that are crying and on their knees, praying to God to deliver them from this chariot of the devil.

There were other people who were running towards it and waving and saying, “Take me for a ride”. And there were other people there hooting and hollering like they were watching a fireworks show on the 4th of July.

In the photograph, in the foreground, you can see people standing in the bed of their truck, and you’re seeing them all from the back, so you can’t tell exactly what they’re doing. But a lot of them, their arms are like this [up in front of his eyes], like they’re watching it through field glasses.

There are other people just sort of standing around, just taking it all in, watching everything.

But he said that this thing sat there for the better part of a half an hour, and that’s why there were so many people that had pulled off and were watching.

And apparently, there was some kind of a flight control issue with this thing, and it had initiated a bank, and then they couldn’t pull out of this dive, so they just stopped. And it was hovered in this banked, nose-down position.

And so apparently, whoever was working on this thing was not able to repair that particular problem. And so the way they resolved it was this thing continued in its bank. I have to turn my hand the other way to do it right, but imagine that this [his hand is now face up and he’s pointing to his palm] is the upper surface like this.

So the thing flips end over end like this [the top rising up and back], but at the same time, it continues the roll. So it goes like this [it first rolled to the right and then the nose twisted up and back], and it’s pointed up and away from the crowd.

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It starts to climb out slowly, getting louder and louder, and then it gets to about 5,000 feet and [hands slap together] gone just like that, out into space.

But he said he went back about a week later, and he parked his car in the same spot. And he was walking out to see if maybe there was any evidence on the ground that this thing had been there. Maybe something got dropped off of it, or maybe there was crop circle-type evidence – that kind of thing.

This Air Force truck comes rolling up – the dark blue with the yellow stencil on the side – “United States Air Force”. And a couple of military cops tell him he needs to get out of there and leave immediately, or they’re going to arrest him, and they’re going to impound his car. So he leaves.

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David: Well, isn’t it cool to have some really good illustrations – a guy that can back up his story with visuals like this?

Corey: And a photo – an actual photo.

David: Yeah. That’s a very interesting and bizarre-looking craft. Let’s just start by getting your thoughts as to, have you seen anything like that? What do you think its purpose might be? Is it just experimental? Was it actually used in operations, etc.?

Corey: I saw a lot of experimental craft, and a lot of them did say “Lockheed” on them, and they were faceted. And some of them were . . . I don’t know how to . . . You could manipulate or articulate different areas of the craft. So this sounds to me like it might have been one of their test craft, a concept craft.

David: So when you say ‘manipulate’ or ‘articulate’, you mean the craft can move . . .

Corey: Change configurations.

David: Shapeshift, basically.

Corey: Right.

David: What would be the value of something like that?

Corey: Well, if you have three different points that are being used, I guess, as like impulse-type engines – electrogravitic engines – usually, they have them on a type of a gimbal that you can manipulate them, turn them this way, and then pull you in that direction.

So that’s going to be kind of the same concept. And most of these that I read about were remotely controlled – the test craft. They didn’t necessarily have pilots.

David: Well, I’m thinking about the old James Bond movie where he’s got the car, and he drives it into the water, and then things all start shifting. And now that it’s in water, it’s got fins instead of tires.

Corey: Right.

David: Or it becomes a jet, and it flies, and wings come out. Is it possible that the shapeshifting has something to do with where it’s traveling, like if it’s in atmosphere or in space or something like that?

Corey: I would think it mostly has to do with controlling the attitude and pitch and yaw of the plane.

David: Just the actual manipulation.

Corey: Right.

David: Is it normal for people to be able to see one of these, or was this some kind of an accident that took place?

Corey: I think he described what most likely happened very well.

David: Right.

Corey: There was some sort of computer glitch, or they weren’t able to communicate with the craft, and it went into a loiter position. It was most likely programmed to go into a loiter position if there was an issue.

David: Now, earlier in this same episode, he was talking about how craft that are going to travel at Mach 17, that he couldn’t have these canards and winglets on the craft because they would get torn off.

The thing that strikes me is, you’re talking about a craft that has moving parts – a craft that has all these facets on it. It’s got an unusual shape.

Wouldn’t that type of a structure stress out under very high velocity and not be a good choice for a high speed aircraft?

Corey: No. Most . . . A lot of them are faceted – the craft that are supersonic.

David: Okay.

Corey: That’s actually a part of the design. It’s not only for deflecting radar, but they design them to be highly aerodynamic.

And I didn’t see anything that would cause a whole lot of drag on that craft.

David: But the joints . . . In order to have the joints be strong enough that things could move and then hold up under that velocity . . .

Corey: Most likely it moves into a different configuration.

David: Oh, for high speed?

Corey: For high speed. Right.

David: That, I can understand. So maybe the two Y-like sides of it would pull together.

Corey: Come together. Right. Right.

David: You mentioned before that the ICC – the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate – within the greater space program you were part of, was manufacturing and selling technology to over 900 extraterrestrial groups – 900 being the ones they were in regular contact with.

Would the ICC be testing anything on Earth, or would this be some other group besides them?

Corey: Well, the ICC controls a lot of these military-industrial-complex-type firms that contract this stuff. So they’re going to be overseeing it anyway and pulling in technology that they see that can be incorporated into higher technology craft.

There’s most likely an Area 51-type of Lockheed-Martin joint effort.

David: How might you use a craft like this? What would be it’s purpose? Is it an attack weapon?

Corey: Yeah. It probably has different weapons-platform packages you can put on it for reconnaissance and also weapons platform to make it a weapons platform. But most likely, that was a concept for another craft that . . . They’ll build three or four different concept craft to finally come up with one final version.

So that could have just been part of a process of creating another craft.

David: Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m here with Corey Goode, and we are watching the very surprising testimony of one of the original Disclosure Project 39 whistleblowers, none other than Mark McCandlish. We’ll see you next time.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: VIEWER QUESTIONS PART 7

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode, our insider’s insider. How are you doing, Corey?

Corey Goode: Doing well, thank you.

David: Welcome back to the show. All right, first question is from Schmitz_K, and it is as follows:

“Love the viewer questions. I also have a question of my own. Do the SSP vessels produce gravity or are they a zero G environment? And is gravity severely reduced in the LOC?”

Was there gravity when you were on the ship?

Corey: Yes. They have plates on the floor that create a gravitational field, but also within the bubble of the torsion field, it creates an environment to where they can control the gravity better for some reason.

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Now, the lower level SSPs, they don’t have all of the artificial gravity. So you’ll see the monkey bars on the ceiling that you use, you know, for getting around.

David: Oh. If we go back to the German Bell craft, did they have zero G environment when they were flying in those?

Corey: Yes.

David: They did?

Corey: Yeah.

David: The second half of the question was about the LOC. Is there severely reduced gravity in the LOC? I guess they’re thinking about the Moon’s gravity being less than ours and how the astronauts supposedly bouncing around.

Corey: Right. On the LOC, there was one G of gravity.

David: Oh.

Corey: Now, there are some of the other surface bases that they have that we haven’t talked about so much where there is no gravity.

David: Oh, no gravity?

Corey: No gravity, except for, well, the Moon’s natural gravity.

David: Right, okay.

Corey: Right.

David: Okay. We have a question from Marcus O., and it is:

“I would like to hear Corey going into more about the work he’s done on himself, also more on his high vibratory diet and what work exactly we could be doing on ourselves. I understand that he doesn’t want to come across as a leader, and that we shouldn’t be ‘following him’, but some of us would like advice and extra information.

“For people who are trying, i.e. with diet and meditation, what would be some good suggestions for both? It would be nice to hear more about the work we should be doing for this conscious renaissance.”

Corey: Well, there is a component to this situation that I’m having my vibratory state augmented just by being in the presence of some of these higher vibratory beings.

David: [David shakes his head in agreement.]

Corey: And I’m getting personal one-on-one advice from them, and it’s very uncomfortable advice. About 80% of my communications with them involve them shining lights where I’ve refused to shine lights.

David: So for somebody who isn’t having beings show up in the room with them and giving them a higher vibration just by being in their presence, what are some of the practical steps of people actually achieving that forgiveness?

Corey: Less looking out here for solutions and a lot of introspection. We all have the traumas in life that we think we’ve put behind us. We don’t have to deal with them anymore.

Well, it’s time that we start, you know, digging them up, holding them up to the light, and, you know, doing the hard work. This has been very difficult.

A lot of people are like, you know, “You’re getting this one-on-one contact. How luck are you.”

It’s very, very difficult. It’s demoralizing at times.

My ego has been so, I guess, massaged in – not in a way to make it bigger but to make me more humble.

Anytime you begin to think highly of yourself, they come, “Wait a minute. Look at this, this and this.”

And you know, it puts you back in your place and puts you back on the path.

David: So the question also revolved around dietary issues, and there’s another one that we have in here, I think, that is going to cover that as well.

So he was specifically saying he’s already trying to do a healthy diet, but what are some of the suggestions that might be of assistance?

Corey: Well, that is definitely a process as well. One of the things I was being told, especially by Tear-Eir, was that I was not practicing what I was preaching.

I was talking about high vibration diets, going home and eating corn dogs and all these nitrates, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . and it was wreaking havoc on my body. I mean, you can see from the first season, you know, how unhealthy I looked.

David: It’s amazing, the transformation of how much you’ve changed. And it really did seem like once you had that contact with Ka’Aree, and you touched her hands, and then you had this mind-meld that something really triggered in you at that point.

Corey: You know, it’s a difficult path. Each person’s path is different.

I mean, you have to deal with your old traumas. You have to deal with your current behavior that is destructive.

If you don’t do that, no matter how spiritually advanced you think you are, you’re just deluding yourself.

You have to work and take care of all these little earthly issues that are acting like a parachute to hold you back.

David: So since the question also related to diet, I want to bring up the subject of the weapons system, something that several insiders have talked to me about, the idea that the Cabal itself actually has put in certain ingredients in food that is intended to reduce lifespan, decrease happiness, increase weight, all this kind of stuff.

So are you personally aware of the idea that the food system that we have is being weaponized in certain ways?

Corey: Yeah, our entire environment has been weaponized against us. That’s why we’ve got to mitigate all of those weapons as much as we can.

And in my case, I ended up moving to a vegetarian diet. I was pretty much forced to by getting food poisoning.

David: Right.

Corey: So I was real slow to start practicing what I was preaching.

David: Okay, so the next question is from Sedona Visionary, and it says:

“Corey has mentioned more than once that he uses a technique for releasing negative entities from his energy field. I would really like to know the how-tos. I know he said he does it using the name of Jesus Christ, but there must be a little more to it than that that would be helpful for people watching this show to use.”

Corey: Once I realized that I did have entity attachments, I went back, of course, to my background and how I was raised, and I called on the name of Jesus and it worked. They just fled the scene of the crime.

David: Right.

Corey: Later on, I was reinfected with entities by Mara, one of the Inner Earth people that had visited me without my permission.

David: The negative being, in this case.

Corey: Right. In that case, Ka’Aree removed them with some sort of tone from a crystal, and they fled exactly in the same way.

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I guess the power that I assigned to the name of Jesus gave it some sort of a vibrational strength with my will and my belief that the name of Jesus would clear me.

So I say that because the tone, the vibration of that crystal, was what drove them out of me the second time.

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So there has to be other methods of doing it, of course. I’m not going to say you have to go to the Inner Earth and have a crystal waved above you or call in the name of Jesus.

People can do it on their own, but it’s very difficult. A lot of times, these entities will act like they’ve left, you know, “I’m leaving”, you know, do the little walking noise and then sneak right back around and come in.

The best thing you can do is just make your body of a vibratory nature that it’s very difficult for these beings to coexist with you.

David: We have one from Merwitch Mama. Ha, ha.

“Why are we still calling Gonzales, ‘Gonzales’? If he’s already been compromised and no longer even on Earth, why can’t we know who he really is? It would go a long way toward getting more people on board with this.”

Corey: He has family here that I wouldn’t want to put in danger. I’ve already outed him, and it caused a lot of problems with the Alliance, the SSP Alliance. Half of the command and control structure will not show their heads, you know, for command and control purposes.

David: Right.

Corey: So I’m not going to do anything to cause any more damage.

David: I totally agree. Wanderer 1027:

“I am confused as to why the Alliance is more concerned about the Cabal exposing the dirt that the Cabal has on them than they are about giving humanity Full Disclosure. Should we care what individual factions of the Alliance have done more than our own ascension?

“Also, why, Corey, are you concerned about the social effects of Full Disclosure? Society’s already broken. We experience a dark night of the soul for a reason, don’t we?”

So, I guess the first question is, “Why is the Alliance more concerned about the Cabal exposing the dirt on them than Full Disclosure?”

Corey: Well, because they will be standing next to them in tribunals. They were carrying out orders that were given to them for a long time. And in the process, many crimes against humanity were committed.

David: Stuff that would be so extremely compromising that people wouldn’t feel very forgiving?

Corey: Absolutely not.

David: So regarding this idea that the social effects of Full Disclosure, the question seems to be confronting you as if you are concerned about Full Disclosure breaking down society, and they’re saying society is already broken. This is just going to give us a useful dark night of the soul if we get Full Disclosure.

Corey: People have all these ideas about what disclosure is going to be if there’s a Full Disclosure event. And it is going to be more than a dark night of the souls. Many people are going to die in the process. It’s going to be chaos.

It’s not going to be people holding hands singing “Kumbaya”. It’s going to be . . . We are demanding one of the most difficult times in our life. We’re demanding we need this disclosure, but we don’t fully understand how difficult it’s going to be.

I mean, there are countries that have been victimized by the Cabal are going to find out a bunch of information. They’re going to want to go to war with Cabal countries.

It’s going to be a mess. It’s not just going to be people that won’t get out of bed and eat because their religion has been basically proven as wrong.

David: Right.

Corey: It’s far more reaching than that.

David: So it would seem, then, that even a Full Disclosure, the most ethical way to do it would be in a series of stages where there’s some acclimation along the way.

Corey: That’s what the negotiations have been all about. The Alliance, the Earth Alliance, they believe that it’s irresponsible to just drop it all on the people. They think it should be, you know, put out in a slow way.

But in that case, if you don’t put it all out at once, then you’re always going to have somebody that’s wanting to hold back little bits and pieces.

So I’m for Full Disclosure, but what I’m saying is, everyone out there, be careful what you wish for because it’s going to be a lot more difficult even for those in the UFO community than what we think.

David: Well, if you think about, Corey, our own creative process when we were developing “Cosmic Disclosure” with the folks here at Gaia, we were looking at a lot of information that you could tell us about Draco and things like that that were VERY disturbing things.

And we did structure the show so that that kind of stuff came in later episodes after we’d had multiple episodes to try to front load the positive at the beginning.

So do you think there’s a way that this could happen with Full Disclosure or are you saying it’s like a data dump and it just all kind of comes blasting out?

Corey: That’s what Full Disclosure is, is a complete dump of everything.

David: Right.

Corey: And everything . . . I mean, there’s going to be a lot of disturbing information.

David: We have another question now from Akhaishimray, and it says, and we’ve heard this one before:

“Are you not allowed to film your interaction with the Blue Avians or Mica or even just a view aboard one of the spheres? And if so, why? A 360-degree camera would be ideal since that’s difficult to fake.

“Why must disclosure only come from a CNN camera?”

Corey: I’m not allowed to bring any technology with me. I’m screened for AI every time I go up. You cannot bring technology with you.

So there’s no way I can bring a camera with me and stick it in Tear-Eir’s face when he’s trying to communicate to me.

David: So you’re saying that any technology from Earth could potentially have this AI in it . . .

Corey: Uh-huh.

David: . . . just as the . . . because you also mentioned it can exist as an electromagnetic source.

Corey: Right. Right. It’s just security protocol.

David: Right. Is there also some reason, in terms of the Blue Avians and what they’re wanting to be disclosure, that they don’t want too much proof too quickly so that free will is preserved?

Corey: The way they see it, all the proof, that’s all up to us and the process. The only thing they’re concerned with is raising the vibration of humanity and raising our consciousness.

The way they see it, if they raise our consciousness, everything else will just fall into place.

David: Sure. Just because this is something that’s come up a lot in the discussion forum, people have often said, “Why can’t he put some kind of camera in his living room so that if a sphere shows up, he can catch it on film as it’s happening, and then that’ll be the big event that finally proves that he’s telling the truth?”

Corey: Well, the one time that I did put a camera up in my room, the meeting did not occur that night.

David: Really?

Corey: Right.

David: What do you think is the reason for why the beings don’t want a definitive smoking gun of proof given to us at this point?

Corey: Everyone has to go through their own process, their own spiritual process in raising their vibration and going towards disclosure.

People say that, “Oh, I’m spiritually advanced. I will not worship beings if they appear.”

But that is not the history that these beings have seen with us.

We are programmed to worship something higher, and a being comes in, we’ll be, “Oh, this is an angel”, and try to apply it to whatever personal religion we have built up in our heads, and then start praying to them, which they already have a problem with.

David: Right. This is a subject we could talk about for a long time, but we are trying to get through a bunch of questions here.

We have one from Jenaceae:

“Okay, so are the Pre-Adamites then what we are calling the Annunaki or are they the step-link between the Annunaki and the elite Cabal sun god worshipers?

“All the sun god people the Cabal worship have elongated heads, right?”

Corey: Well, the Pre-Adamites are basically fallen angels. 55,000 to 60,000 years ago, they pretty much crash landed here after a series of misfortunes.

They are not allies with the Draco, by any means. They’ve had agreements with them, but they kept the Reptilians in check in the past.

And it was after this last deluge or global catastrophe that caused Antarctica to shift its place on the globe and then be covered in ice that they lost all access to their technology and were then unable to keep the Reptilians at bay as they had done in the past.

So it’s really hard. Annunaki is a term that can mean, you know, “from the heavens”, or it’s kind of a blanket term.

David: Right.

Corey: So the Reptilians are often referred to as Annunaki and so are these Pre-Adamites.

David: Okay. We have John 1111:

“Hi, Corey and David. I am a wanderer, and as a result, a friendly, nonviolent person. But I was wondering if I would incur some sort of karmic debt by wanting to destroy Reptilians? Is there anything wrong with wanting to kill the bad guys or should we just let them be?”

Corey: We have to go . . . and this is going to sound really bizarre, but we have to get to a point in our journey – and it’ll probably be well after disclosure – to where we’re going to have to forgive those beings, or it’s going to hold us back spiritually and karmically.

We’re going to actually have to forgive the beings that have been torturing and murdering and enslaving us for millennia.

David: It would appear, if you look at the history of Atlantis, that seemingly benevolent beings, these Elohim, did decide for Atlantis to be destroyed and that a lot of those lives were lost. So it would appear that maybe on a level bigger than individual human free will that nature itself sometimes does things that resolve some of these issues or dramatically reduce the population of a negative civilization.

Corey: Right. These negative beings, they’re being neutralized and taken care of right now, not only by higher density beings but by the universe itself, by the cycle that our galaxy is going through.

We still have to fight this battle against them. We have to fight for sovereignty, but after we win the battle, then we have to move to a point where we can forgive them, which is . . . I’m not at that point.

David: I also have often looked at what the Cabal is doing, where they think population on Earth is the enemy and population must be attacked.

And my response to that is, if nature sees something out of balance, nature will take care of it. It’s not necessarily our right, or our privilege, if they want to think of it in such a dark way as that, to try to do these things when nature will take care of itself. It has cycles of replenishing and cleansing.

If there is to be a problem, it’s not our job to go out there and try to do this.

Corey: Right. And sociopaths are the ones that usually rise to power in these organizations.

David: There you go. So now we have another one. This is from ARW 575:

“If we are all one, then I presume we are one with the Reptilians and all other entities. How can we evolve if we race around the galaxy battling with other entities? Are we not then just warring with ourselves? It gets confusing.”

Corey: You have mass consciousness. You have the mass consciousness of humanity, and I’ve described, when I was shown this mass consciousness being, that it was a traumatized schizophrenic basically.

David: Yeah.

Corey: There is some sort of a battle, but also a process that the Reptilians are growing and learning from these experiences just like we are. It’s a hierarchical situation.

At the very tip-top, we are all one.

David: Well, what would you say also about the idea in The Law of One where they explain that we live in the illusion, and that the illusion is staged for the benefit of the development of consciousness?

Corey: It’s all about consciousness, the development of consciousness. That’s all they care about, these higher density beings. That’s really the . . . Everyone is like, you know, what is the reason for life?What is the purpose for life?

It’s all about the continual development of consciousness, not only on an individual basis but as a mass consciousness being that we’re a part of.

David: Okay, now we have Selene 2:

“What, if anything, does CERN have to do with manipulating the Earth’s magnetic field? Anything you can offer there would be useful. Many things for your wonderful disclosures.”

Corey: From what I understand, CERN is one of these multipurpose-type technologies. There are different groups of scientists going in, trying to achieve different goals.

They’re using it as some sort of a . . . They’re trying to interact with the Earth’s magnetic field. They’re using it trying to create portals. They’re using it to also develop torsion field technologies.

It is a laboratory that has multiple purposes. It’s not just there to create a wormhole. It’s not just there to interact with the ley lines. It is a multipurpose technology.

David: I’ll just throw in here that in talking with Henry Deacon, he actually worked on CERN for a while as a job. And he said that it is so difficult to actually get the particles to hit each other that it requires people who are intuitive.

And he was one of the people who was psychic enough to be able to intuitively work the controls so that you’d actually get particle collisions.

I’m wondering if that lines up with anything you heard?

Corey: It doesn’t line up with what I’ve heard, but it makes total sense.

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David: Right. Next, we have DJ Miss Mixit:

“Corey, could you please ask some of the beings from higher vibrations the best, most efficient tools for clearing the pineal gland.

“Is there a Hertz frequency I can make? Is meditation enough for me to simply imagine it being cleared?”

Corey: Meditation and diet are the way to go. You want to make sure that you can remove the calcification in your pineal gland, but also you want the pineal gland interacting with your higher self in a conducive way.

So you need to have yourself on the right vibratory level through meditation.

David: I would also just point out, one of the things Peterson said is that the halides, which would be like chlorine, fluoride, etc., pass through the blood brain barrier and attach to the little crystals in your pineal gland, and that’s one of the main things that causes calcification.

Corey: That’s true.

David: So have the beings told you to avoid tap water and things like this?

Corey: Yes, I only drink spring water at home.

David: Okay.

Corey: Right.

David: Next, we have one from Inscizor:

“My questions are about densities. What density would Jesus or the Buddha have been considered to have moved into after being here?

“How about the in-between live state before one is to reincarnate? How does that fit in with the idea of densities of consciousness?”

“Is heaven considered to be the next, say the fourth or higher, level of consciousness, or is it something entirely different?”

Corey: The way densities have been explained to me is it’s all about consciousness. It’s different vibratory states of consciousness.

And once you reach a certain vibratory state of consciousness, as we’ve stated, you can control matter with consciousness.

So you begin to change your environment as you go up the octaves consciously.

David: Okay. We have L. Mensah 732:

“Can mass consciousness toward a specific goal via the Internet be as effective as being physically together in one place?

“For instance, I guess this is Heather Sartain’s episode, she mentioned people being on one continent and how that would affect Earth’s rotation.”

So I think what they’re looking at here is could we do, like a mass meditation and reduce terrorism without everybody having to be in the same room like they were in the original transcendental meditation studies?

Corey: Yes, that definitely does work. You don’t have to be in proximity with other people. But when you get a lot of people that are . . . they have practiced disciplines to where they can meditate deeply, you get a lot of those people in proximity, there is a power to it, for sure.

David: I agree. So here’s another one from Sassafrass 7:

“Good stuff. I have so many more questions. How do the Reptilians reproduce? Do they have a gestation period and then are born similar to mammals on Earth?

“But if they are fourth-dimensional beings, do they need to be born at all or do they just create their bodies with thought? I understand they do eat. Unfortunately, they enjoy eating people.

“I thought a fourth-dimensional being would not need to eat. Does this mean they are doing this only for sport or something like that?”

Corey: Yeah, well, this all goes back to our different belief systems on what dimensions, densities are. A lot of people think that a fourth-density being could be standing right next to us, and we wouldn’t see them. We’d be passing through each other. You know, we couldn’t hold hands with them.

That’s not at all the case. It’s just they have a different consciousness vibration.

What I’d normally say is, what do you consider a dog or a bacteria? You know, second, first-density life, you can interact with them, no problem.

David: Right. Sure. As far as the Reptilian breeding cycle and birthing cycle, is there a sexual reproduction that leads to a pregnancy and a birth?

Corey: Exactly. Yes. And they also use cloning.

David: Okay. Lastly, we have 23 Window:

“I wanted to put something forward. The name ‘wanderers’ and ‘starseeds’ alone come with a positive connotation, but now, I’m hearing that the Cabal or MILABs identify these kids early along, take them, and fractionalize their brains into doing work for the Cabal.

“Weren’t these people sent here in the first place to do good for humanity? Yet, the Draco has infiltrated the Cabal and figured out how to brainwash them and control them for their own purposes.”

Corey: Yeah, they basically hijacked their mission. That’s the whole point. They hijack their mission. They come here with certain abilities, and then they exploit those abilities.

And in doing so, they’re co-opting the enemy the way they see it. They’re causing . . . These starseed beings are coming here to effect positive change on the planet.

The Reptilians, for instance, do not want positive change on the planet, so they’re corrupting these “soldiers” to fight for them.

David: Well, this obviously is not an airtight system in which all people who are wanderers are being completely compromised.

So could you speak to that a little bit, in terms of how would someone navigate this successfully if they are an ET soul and still be able to do what they’re supposed to be doing on the planet?

Corey: Well, stay away from any government organization that tells you you’re special. Ha. That’s number one.

And practice humility, concentrate on your own personal journey, and meditating on what your mission is. And once you’ve been awakened to your mission, go for it.

If you do that, then you’re going to effect positive change and combat the groups that are co-opting the starseeds.

David: That’s all the time we have for in this episode. I’m your host, David Wilcock here with Corey Goode. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” on Gaia. And we thank you for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: TRACING THE ROOTS OF THE SSP WITH MICHAEL SALLA

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode and our special guest Dr. Michael Salla from Exopolitics Institute.

So Michael, welcome to the show.

Dr. Michael Salla: Thanks for having me on the show, David.

David: Thanks. And Corey, good to have you back, buddy.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: I was talking with you about another book that you wrote, “Kennedy’s Last Stand”, and so I’d like to open with that for this episode.

Michael: Well, the book really goes into what Kennedy knew about this whole topic. And the thing that . . .

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David: What whole topic?

Michael: The topic of UFOs, flying saucers.

David: Oh.

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Michael: Kennedy was very interested in that, and so the book looks at his history of trying to find out about it. But one of the things that I did in that book was, I was able to find out that, early in his career, Kennedy was actually a protege of James Forrestal, who at the time was the Secretary of the Navy.

Corey: The Navy, yeah.

Michael: And so Forrestal took Kennedy . . . This was before Kennedy became a congressman or even entered politics. And Forrestal, at the time, wanted to recruit Kennedy to his personal staff.

So Forrestal took Kennedy on a fact-finding trip to Germany in July and August of 1945. So this is after the war.

You had the Navy there, the Army there, basically pouring over everything that the Nazis were developing in terms of secret technologies and trying to find out what it was that they were going to bring back under Operation Paperclip – scientists and technologies.

So Forrestal . . .

David: So even though they fled to Antarctica, it wasn’t like they got everything out.

Michael: Exactly, yeah. The Germans still had a lot of really advanced stuff down there. Certainly, as far as the Air Force and the Navy were concerned, the stuff that the Germans were working on in occupied Europe was just way ahead of anything they had.

So the Navy was there trying to work out what it was that they should ship back to the U.S. to work on in their top secret laboratories.

David: Let me ask you this. Did the U.S. have captured German soldiers and scientists who were telling them what was there? Or were they just going into an abandoned building and then trying to poke around and look for things?

Michael: Oh, they had both. They had a lot of scientists, engineers, that were trying to cut a deal, trying to get a favorable place to live, or maybe even get repatriated to whatever country they were originally from, or even to the U.S., . . .

David: Right.

Michael: . . . people that had documents that wanted to cut a deal. People knew where the secret laboratories were.

So you had all of this happening, and so the Navy and the Army had their top intelligence teams in there trying to sift out exactly what was available.

David: All right. Sorry to interrupt, but I think this is really important, too.

In case people are younger, they don’t understand this, Kennedy is not just an ordinary family. We have a background on the Kennedys in which Joseph Kennedy, the father of all the Kennedy brothers, was well-known as a bootlegger, and had made a significant fortune.

Michael: Well, yeah. He was a very successful businessman. I mean, he did a number of things, and bootlegging during prohibition was one of the things.

David: Right.

Michael: But he’s probably best known for being the ambassador for the U.S. to England just before the Second World War.

David: Okay.

Michael: And he was also, along with James Forrestal, the . . . he became the first, I think, it’s the President of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

David: Oh, really?

Michael: So this was . . . So he was really at the apex of the financial system in the U.S. at the time.

David: Right, because the SEC is what’s regulating the whole stocks and commodities markets, and all that.

Corey: Yeah. And the tie-in to Forrestal is obvious. Forrestal pops up in ufology everywhere.

David: MJ-12, right?

Michael: Right, yeah. He was on the MJ-12 committee. And Forrestal, he was the guy that worked for a major financial company Dillon and Read. And so he was picked by the Navy, by Roosevelt, to actually help the Navy prepare for the war, because he had the expertise, the knowledge of major scale industrial manufacturing, and the Navy needed to really change in order to deal with the pressure of fighting two wars.

Corey: There are some interesting tie-ins between Forrestal and William Tompkins, are there not?

Michael: Very important. According to William Tompkins, Forrestal was the guy that picked the admiral that would run the top secret Navy program that was going to be trying to get as much information as they could on what the Nazis were doing, in terms of secret space technologies.

And Forrestal was also the guy that somehow was influenced by Nordics to pick Rico Botta to actually play this role.

So Forrestal was in communication with these Nordic extraterrestrials. And that’s a part of what I discuss in the new book, “The U.S. Navy’s Secret Space Program”, the way in which Nordics extraterrestrials were helping the U.S. Navy, right across the spectrum in terms of – from the very beginning to the very end – in the Navy’s developing a secret space program.

David: Do you think that at the time that Forrestal is bringing Kennedy over to this very recently defeated Germany, to get into all the good stuff, do you think they already had a plan with Joe Kennedy that his sons were going to run for president?

Michael: Well, that may have been a factor in why John F. Kennedy didn’t accept Forrestal’s offer . . .

David: Oh, he didn’t?

Michael: . . . to join his personal staff, because Forrestal wanted to recruit Kennedy to his personal staff, and because Jack Kennedy died and – you know, his brother, his older brother died – the father, Joe Kennedy, wanted John F. Kennedy to now enter politics.

David: Oh.

Michael: And so that was why Kennedy turned down Forrestal’s offer to be a part of his personal staff, and Kennedy then entered politics instead and became a congressman – elected to Congress in 1946.

David: Well, do you see, in your research in “Kennedy’s Last Stand”, any other evidence that Kennedy was actually given briefings or was made aware of some of what was going on with the extraterrestrial question?

Michael: Well, not so much as far as the extraterrestrial question is concerned, but as far as Nazi Germany’s advanced programs, he was given access to all of it. I mean, he knew what . . .

David: Really?

Michael: . . . was going on, that Forrestal actually was showing Kennedy all of these advanced technologies and Kennedy wrote about it in a book that was published posthumously, called “Prelude to Leadership”.

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Not many people know about this book . . .

David: Never head of it.

Michael: . . . but it’s a book, written by John F. Kennedy, about his time in occupied Europe, and in Germany, in particular. But the important thing to keep in mind here is that at that same time as Forrestal was showing Kennedy all of these captured German technologies, that Forrestal was the guy that was ultimately in charge of the Navy’s secret espionage program in Nazi Germany, where they were getting all of this intel about Germany having two secret space programs.

And so Forrestal was looking, on behalf of the Navy, for anything that he could find about Germany’s secret space programs.

And so that meant that Kennedy knew about all of this, as well.

David: Right.

Michael: And so this is an important historical fact that that book really articulates, that because of Kennedy’s exposure to this whole phenomenon of advanced UFOs, flying saucers, extraterrestrial life – the kind of information Forrestal was sharing with him – because of that, when Kennedy became president in January 1961, that Kennedy really made an effort to get to the bottom of this whole phenomenon and really get power back, in terms of the president running these secret projects, rather than the projects becoming autonomous, as happened under Eisenhower.

David: All right. I want to ask you one more question about Eisenhower, and then I want to toss it back to Corey for a clarification.

4 Corey Michael And David

We know that Eisenhower ordered this invasion of Area 51, as we talked about in our last episode. And in his infamous closing remarks as he leaves office, he warns about the acquisition of unwarranted influence, either sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex, and then he hands it over to Kennedy.

5 Eisenhower Statement

Have you researched whether there was a conversation between Eisenhower and Kennedy about what Eisenhower had experienced in that transition of power?

Michael: Well, we know from official records that Kennedy met with President Eisenhower twice while Kennedy was President-elect, that they met in December and in January.

And the January event was just a couple of days, two or three days, before the farewell address. So I think it’s fair to assume that whatever Eisenhower shared publicly is much, much less than what he shared privately with Kennedy.

David: Now, you’ve undoubtedly done research on this idea that some kind of benevolent extraterrestrial group met with Eisenhower.

So for those who are not familiar with that, could you just talk a little bit about your knowledge of the Ike and ETs event?

Michael: Sure. Well, I think that there’s so many different whistleblowers who’ve come forward and witnesses, that we can kind of get an idea of the chronology of these different meetings that Eisenhower was a part of.

That starting in February of 1954, that Eisenhower traveled to Edwards Air Force Base, and he met with a positive group of extraterrestrials – what Bill Tompkins describes as Nordic extraterrestrials – and they kind of really emphasized to him the dangers of developing nuclear weapons – thermal nuclear weapons at that time were being deployed; these were hydrogen bombs – and that the Eisenhower administration should follow a more peaceful policy and be open to receiving more spiritual, more ethical information.

Eisenhower, I think, personally, was very impressed by the Nordics, but his national security team said, “No, we’re not going to give up nuclear weapons, and we’re not going to listen to this kind of spiritual, ethical upliftment talk at all.”

So then Eisenhower met with another group of extraterrestrials in February of 1955, this time at Holloman Air Force Base, and this was a group of Grey extraterrestrials, tall Greys, that basically reached agreements with Eisenhower in terms of sharing their technologies.

The Greys weren’t too perturbed that the U.S. was developing thermal nuclear weapons, and so that’s where the agreements began with the Greys.

David: The alleged Tau IX Treaty that led to the formalizing of abductions and all that.

Michael: Right, exactly. And this, of course, all happened after the flyovers in 1952, the Washington flyovers, where you had those craft flying over.

6 1952 UFO Washington DC Flyover

And, of course, the big debate is, were they extraterrestrial or were they Nazi? And, of course, we’ve had different stories on that, but what Bill Tompkins and what Corey have said, as well as Clark McClelland, is that these were Nazi craft.

And so that suggests that the subsequent meetings that happened, these were . . . The agreement that happened after the Holloman Air Force Base was with a group that was allied with the Nazis.

And interestingly, one of the witnesses that was at Holloman Air Force Base in 1955, he actually referred to that Nazi element.

David: All right. So Corey, what was your personal knowledge of extraterrestrial contacts with presidents? When did that first start? Did anything happen with Truman? Did anything happen with Eisenhower, in terms of what you were told, yourself, on the inside?

Corey: There were meetings with Truman and Eisenhower. Eisenhower was meeting with groups that he mentioned, non-terrestrial groups, as well as one called the Blues.

He had a number of meetings where Nazis flew in in these flying saucers, landed it on bases, and came out and had meetings with, I mean, actual Nazis, as well.

David: And we’ve briefly touched on the Blues before, but this is a fascinating area for me because I was able to independently confirm what you said with Pete Peterson.

So could you describe for us, why were they called the Blues? What did they say and how was it taken?

Corey: They were called the Blues because they had blue skin, and their agenda was peaceful.

Much like the Nordics, they were advising us not to dabble in nuclear energy or weaponry. They also were giving us spiritually uplifting information, information about consciousness, stuff that the military really had no use for.

And much later on, they were referred to, and the Nordics, they refer to them, jokingly, as ‘space hippies’. Although there were no hippies in the 1940s, later on they were called that.

David: What was the deal that the Blues were offering? What would we have to do to get their cooperation?

Corey: Give up nuclear weapons. Give up the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

David: But what would be the payoff for us if we did? What were they offering as the carrot?

Corey: To begin to help us spiritually, to integrate with other civilizations.

David: Now, you had mentioned very briefly Clark McClelland, and that’s just popped up on the radar screen recently in a new insider correlation with Tompkins.

And I’m sure you’re familiar with that, so could you share with us how McClelland has suddenly popped into the story?

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Michael: Well, with Clark McClelland, he was a spacecraft operator for NASA at the end of his career. Prior to that, he worked for about three decades for various NASA contractors.

So he had a bird’s-eye view of what was happening at NASA, and so he was able to confirm what Bill Tompkins had to say, that NASA had been infiltrated by Nazis.

Clark McClelland, for example, said that when he went to the office of Kurt Debus, who was the first Director of the Kennedy Space Center, that McClelland met Hans Kammler.

8 Kurt Debus

9 Hans Kammler

And Kammler was the Nazi SS General that ran their Secret Space Program in occupied Europe, trying to weaponize the technologies – the Die Glocke or the Nazi Bell – that Kammler was in charge of all of this.

So here you have Kammler, in the 1960s, at the Kennedy Space Center meeting with the director.

And so McClelland was able to confirm that that was actually happening, and so that was confirmation, or really strong corroboration, for what Bill Tompkins was saying about the way in which the Nazis continued to have this undue influence over the entire NASA space program, and had actually infiltrated the military-industrial complex.

And that’s one of the things that Tompkins says, that the military-industrial complex – various companies and various military organizations – found themselves almost in a kind of proxy war between these different extraterrestrial factions: the Nazi Reptilian group that were trying to infiltrate and take over the U.S. military-industrial complex, and then another group, the Nordic extraterrestrials, who identified the Navy as really being the one U.S. institution that was kind of much more aligned, or supportive, of U.S. constitutional values.

David: For those who are watching this show who are not familiar with Clark McClelland, I know what his background is, but I’d like for you to share in your words.

What was the big sizzle – his testimony about the Space Shuttle going back years ago – that we’ve all encountered?

Michael: Well, what he did was, he actually said that he saw on the NASA live feed, an incident involving the Space Shuttle, where there was another craft parked near the Space Shuttle – another spacecraft – and there was at least two different types of astronauts accompanying the NASA astronauts, or the Space Shuttle astronauts, who were out there doing a space walk.

He compared the size of these astronauts from this foreign spacecraft. They were around 10-foot tall compared to the NASA astronauts.

So he had a diagram illustrating what he had seen, and so he spoke at length about this as being evidence that there was a Secret Space Program program with alien astronauts that were somehow collaborating with the NASA space program.

David: So one of the things that you’ve gotten into, in some of your more recent work, is this idea of how the fictional tales that are told in movies, and comic books, and now video games, of course, regular books by science fiction authors, like Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, how were they being influenced by what was going on from the things you’ve learned firsthand talking to Tompkins and other insiders?

Michael: Well, one of the people that Bill Tompkins identified as being a key player in the Navy’s development of a secret space program was Admiral Leslie Stevens.

10 Admiral Leslie Clark Stevens

Now, Admiral Stevens, he was actually a contemporary of Admiral Botta, who was running the Navy program out of San Diego, learning all about the Nazi space program.

And what I’ve been able to determine is that, through Freedom of Information Act [FOIA], that Stevens and Botta actually served together on at least one committee.

So this was something that really supported what Bill Tompkins was saying, that Stevens was involved in this and was very familiar with the Navy’s Secret Space Program.

Well, the important thing about Admiral Stevens is that he had a son who had the same name, Leslie Stevens, so Leslie Stevens IV. He was the producer of the famous show, “The Outer Limits”.

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12 The Outer Limits

And at that time, around 1964, ’65, Gene Roddenberry sat in on the set of “The Outer Limits”, to kind of learn from Leslie Stevens how to put together a science fiction show.

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David: Wow! Let me interrupt you just really briefly because this is amazing. So I’m sitting with one of my insiders, who we call Daniel, and he’s the guy that allegedly worked at Montauk, where they back-engineered a seat from a UFO, got it working, and you could sit in the chair, meditate and create a portal that could actually send people through space and time.

And one day he was talking about what happens when you use some of these technologies, and it creates a little orb that can look where you want to have it look.

And he said that the name of this thing was an “outer band individuated teletracer” or OBIT.

And we go online, and I just said, “Hey man, let’s just look this up right now, and see if . . . has anybody ever leaked this information?”

“The Outer Limits” . . .

Michael: Exactly.

David: . . . had an episode called “Outer Band Individuated Teletracer” – exactly the same. And then, the actual description of it was that it was a device that could do all surveillance in all places at all times.

So that showed me right away, okay, “The Outer Limits” has got to have some kind of insider connection.

Michael: And one of the things about Leslie Stevens’ father, the Admiral, he actually ran the psychological warfare operations for the National Security Council.

David: Wow!

Michael: So he was in charge of that. And Leslie Stevens IV, the producer of “The Outer Limits”, his background was military intelligence. So he actually served for military intelligence, and because of his expertise, I believe that what he did during the Second World War was psychological warfare operations.

So then what I’ve been able to deduce from my research – and it’s in the new book – is that Leslie Stevens IV was basically working with his father, up until his father’s death, in psychological warfare operations, in trying to introduce some of these breakthrough ideas as a form of soft disclosure in the media and entertainment industry.

So when we have “The Outer Limits” being created, you have Gene Roddenberry sitting in on it after the failure of a series that he had earlier put together, which was called “The Lieutenant”.

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So it was all about a Navy lieutenant. So that flopped. It only lasted, I think, one year, possibly two years.

And so Roddenberry was advised by his agent to come up with a science fiction show.

So he sat in on “The Outer Limits”, and according to people that were there, Roddenberry and Stevens had reached an information agreement, in terms of Roddenberry would get all the information from Stevens about developing his science fiction series, and he would get all the credit – that he wouldn’t mention Stevens.

David: Wow!

Michael: And that’s exactly what happened. And so then we have, of course, the creation of “Star Trek”.

And if you look at “Star Trek”, some of the main forces, there’s an uncanny parallel with the main groups that Bill Tompkins was talking about.

So in “Star Trek” you have the Confederation of Planets. You have the Vulcans. The Vulcans, we can compare them to say the Nordic extraterrestrials, trying to help humanity.

You also have the Klingons, who would be represented by the Reptilians today.

David: Wow! Okay.

Michael: And then you have the genetically enhanced humans, which were the Nazis.

So if you look at the development of “Star Trek” as a series, the main protagonist in that series, there’s an uncanny resemblance to the major extraterrestrial groups and factions, Earth factions, that were involved in these secret space programs right throughout the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s.

David: So another show that really pops up in my mind, Michael, is “Battlestar Galactica”.

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Did your research turn up anything about “Battlestar Gallactica”?

Michael: Well, what was really significant about “Battlestar Gallactica” was that the creator of “Battlestar Galactica” was Glen Larson.

 Larson

And Glen Larson actually worked under Leslie Stevens.

David: Oh, really?

Michael: He worked with him. They shared a lot of talent. Leslie Stevens was the senior, and so Larson had reached a similar kind of agreement with Leslie Stevens where Stevens would come up with ideas and help Larson in developing a science fiction show.

And what’s interesting – and this we’ve learned from people who have later on interviewed key people that were involved in the creation of “Battlestar Galactica” – was that the pilot episode of “Battlestar Galactica” was actually written by Leslie Stevens IV.

David: Really?

Michael: So you actually have the son of a Navy Admiral that was involved in the Navy’s Secret Space Program, writing the pilot episode for a new sci-fi series that he would not get any credit for, but would actually go under the control and be all credited to Glenn Larson.

David: Wow!

Michael: And so, again, this kind of shows that the Navy, through Leslie Stevens, was wanting to have these ideas, the truth of a Navy Secret Space Program and different forms of extraterrestrial life, including artificial intelligence, because that’s what “Battlestar Galactica” really focuses on, is the danger of artificial intelligence.

And so Glen Larson, in that series, just developed the whole idea of extraterrestrials that are having to deal with this conflict with different AI life forms who are intent on eradicating the human creators of that life form throughout the galaxy.

And this is something that kind of dovetails with what Corey has revealed. I remember Corey talking to great length about the danger posed by artificial intelligence, and how AI was screened by the different secret space programs because of the threat.

So this, again, is just confirmation that this was very real material that was being seeded into the public domain through these movies.

David: Do you think . . .

Corey: The truth is definitely stranger than fiction.

David: Do you think that this Leslie Stevens connection is why you hear Naval whistles when people walk into the room on “Star Trek”?

Michael: Oh, definitely. Yeah, I mean, you look at “Star Trek” itself, I mean, it’s all based on this, kind of like, . . . they use Navy procedures and the rankings are Navy.

David: Right.

Michael: The Star Fleet – they talk about Star Fleet Command and all of that. So, yeah, they use a lot of Navy terminology in “Star Trek”, and I believe that’s because the Navy was getting Stevens to leak this stuff out into the public arena through soft disclosure.

Because I think what the Navy really thought, through the 1960s, that eventually, by the time that they had finished building their battle groups that were deployed in the early 1980s, that disclosure would have happened by then.

David: Oh.

Michael: So I think that “Star Trek” was part of an effort by the Navy to kind of seed these ideas into the public consciousness, so that at some time in the future, when the truth was revealed that the Navy had the know-how to build these space battle groups, that the public would come on board and support it, and so the Navy could continue to develop this and expand it.

David: So Michael, I have some documents here that show some really amazing work that you’ve done in terms of taking the Tompkins’ story that we’ve all been dealing with now, and bringing it into this Freedom of Information Act academic research arena that ufology is known for.

So the first one that you have here . . . it’s from U.S. Naval Air Station San Diego signed by Rico Botta.

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18 Rico Botta S Signature

So what’s going on here with this particular document?

Michael: Well, with this document, this was something that William Tompkins put into his book, “Selected by Extraterrestrials”, and basically these were exit slips that he could use to be able to leave Naval Air Station San Diego with documents, with briefing packets, which is a key part of his story.

David: Right.

Michael: But in terms of verifying, well, is this real? Are these exit passes real? Do they have information on them that can be independently corroborated?

So that’s what I tried to do, and I used the FOIA Information Act documents that I received to corroborate that these exit passes were actually signed by a person who actually was in charge of Naval Air Station San Diego at the time that Tompkins said that he received the permission to take these packages out. And then that, of course, concerns Rico Botta.

19 Tompkins Exit Pass 1

20 Tompkins Exit Pass 2

David: It says here that it was for “issue of non-combat airplane.” Ha, ha.

21 Tompkins Exit Pass 3

Michael: Well, that’s right.

David: So what the heck is that?

Michael: Yeah, well, what that document shows is that Tompkins not only was given permission to take these briefing packets out of Naval Air Station San Diego, but he was also given permission to use a plane – to take an actual non-combat plane that was owned by the Admiral – to deliver these packages.

So this is corroborating a key part of Tompkins’ story that he took these different briefing packets to various aerospace companies throughout the U.S., especially the west coast of the U.S. at the time, the different military departments and so forth.

So it’s really . . . Corroborating this document helps determine some key elements of his testimony.

 Rico Botta

David: Okay, now here we have a photograph of Rico Botta, Lieutenant Commander of the U.S. Navy, August 27, 1934, and then his signature.

23 Comparison Of Signatures

And what’s so interesting about this, Michael, is that in this next document you showed us, you have compared that signature on that photograph to the signature that was on the release for the packages, and they’re basically identical. I mean, it’s the same signature.

So how did you get this picture of Rico Botta? Where did that come from? Let’s talk about that first.

Michael: Well, that picture of Rico Botta, that came from his Freedom of Information Act files, the 1,500 pages of documents that I received.

David: So you filed for them, and you actually got them in the mail?

Michael: I filed with the aid of an attorney.

David: Okay.

Michael: His name is Duke Brookhouse and he has been helping with these FOIA requests.

And so, when we got the documents, I went through them and identified the ones that helped corroborate key elements of Tompkins’ story.

So this particular document, with his signature and his photo – even though it’s dated from the early 1930s – clearly shows that the signature is identical with what was on those exit passes that Tompkins gave.

So that is independent corroboration that Tompkins’ document is genuine. And that’s very important that you actually . . . Tompkins’ exit passes . . . those two exit passes showing that he had permission to take these briefing packets out of San Diego Naval Air Station, that that’s a genuine document.

So that’s a very important part of corroborating his story that he was able to take these to different facilities, and that he was given permission to actually use an airplane to fly these to the different locations.

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David: Okay. Now, the next one here, it says Navy Department, Bureau of Navigation, Washington, D.C., dated September 30, 1942, from the Chief of Naval Personnel to Captain Rico Botta.

And the thing that really jumps out at me here, it says, “Proceed to the place (or places – in the order given) indicated below, for temporary duty.”

25 Navy Dept 1942 Doc 2

And then you look down here, it says that this is “in connection with inspecting experimental aircraft and for conferences in connection with [David clears his throat to emphasize this part] aircraft matters:”

Then you get this list of “U.S. Army Air Force Experimental Station, Muroc, which we’ve all heard about the Muroc base, Douglas Aircraft, Northrop, Naval Air Station, San Diego, Consolidated Aircraft Corporation, San Diego.”

This is crazy. What is he talking about with “experimental aircraft and conferences in connection with aircraft matters?”

Michael: Well, this is, again, another document that independently corroborates various aspects of Tompkins’ testimony, that Tompkins says that he was taking these briefing packets to those facilities, as well as many others.

So this document confirms that Botta, prior to this operation that Botta oversaw in Naval Air San Diego, Botta had traveled to some of these same facilities, and that these facilities were conducting experimental aircraft research. And that Botta was the Navy’s guy when it came to understanding experimental aircraft research, and that Botta was being prepped for this new assignment, because visiting those facilities happened less than two months before he was transferred over to Naval Air Station San Diego.

So he was being prepped for that new assignment coming up, where he would be receiving intelligence from Navy spies in Germany about the Germans’ secret space programs. And that once he received the intelligence from the Navy spies, that he would then instruct Tompkins to carry briefing packets to those facilities that you just mentioned, as well as many others that Tompkins said.

So, you know, again, this is another important document that independently verifies that Bill Tompkins’ story is credible. And, of course, . . .

David: How did we get this document?

Michael: That came through the Freedom of Information Act.

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David: Okay, so another document we have here is dated February 25, 1942, which, for the real UFO freaks, you’re going to know that, because that is immediately after the infamous Battle of Los Angeles.

And what we’re having here is Navy Department, Bureau of Aeronautics, from Washington, and it is orders for Rico Botta to have additional temporary duty. And it says for him to proceed, on about March 2, 1942, to Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, i.e. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

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Michael: Exactly.

David: Holy crap! This is amazing!

Corey: Smoking document!

David: Ha, ha. I just want to throw it across the room, it’s so crazy. It’s like, wow! So talk . . . I know what I’m seeing here, but talk us through, in case people aren’t as excited as I am right now, as to why this is so significant.

Michael: Well, February 24 and 25, 1942, is when you had the famous L.A. Air Raid incident. And according to documents that have been released, The Majestic Documents, and according to what Bill Tompkins has said, there were two flying saucers that were retrieved after that crash – one by the Navy, one by the Army Air Force.

David: So some of them did get shot down.

Michael: That’s what we’re told by The Majestic Documents and what Bill Tompkins said.

Now, the one that the Army Air Force got their hands on was taken to Wright Field, which was, at the time, the Army Air Force’s premier research facility for foreign aviation technologies.

David: “Foreign.” Yeah, ha, ha.

Michael: So this was taken, . . . or this craft was retrieved, on February 25, and it was being taken to Wright Field at that time.

Now, on this very same day, Admiral Botta, who is the head of the Navy’s Powerplant Division at the Bureau of Aeronautics, gets orders to travel to Wright Field in early March, to basically do some work over there.

David: Right.

Michael: And the timing . . .

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David: It says, “In connection with engine development.” on the same document. What kinds of engines are they trying to develop here?

Michael: Right, so . . .

David: Probably anti-gravity. So, yeah.

Michael: So that’s a smoking gun document . . .

David: That’s incredible.

Michael: . . . that really shows that Botta was the guy that the Navy had tapped as their expert in understanding these foreign technologies – anything to do with extraterrestrial craft or Nazi craft – that Botta was the man.

And so he was nominated to go to Wright Field to really look over what it was that the Army Air Force had gotten their hands on from the L.A. Raid.

Corey: And did you say that, in an earlier conversation we had, that Rico Botta was an engineer?

Michael: That’s correct. Yes, he was an engineer. He was an expert on engine development, on power plants.

Corey: Power plants.

Michael: He was, actually at the time, the Chief of the Power Plant Division for the Bureau of Aeronautics. So he was the guy that really understood what it was that needed to be done in terms of developing high-capacity engines for high-performance aviation maneuvers.

And so if you’re talking about craft that were capable of spaceflight, he was the guy that would be able to give you insights into that.

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David: Right, and you have this document right here from March 15, 1946, where it says that, “his outstanding technical knowledge and skill, Rear Admiral Botta enabled his department , , , “ blah, blah, blah “. . . for combat aircraft . . . with the latest combat-improved changes . . .”

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So it’s clearly . . . You have documents here saying that he’s involved in upgrading the quality of technology of combat aircraft engines and energy technologies.

Michael: Right. Exactly. That was his duty while he was working at Naval Air Station San Diego from 1942 to 1946, that he was the assembly and repair officer.

And so his job was to basically upgrade the performance of all the Navy jet fighter craft.

And in addition to that, he was also learning about what it was that the Nazis were doing in developing jet engines and also trying to weaponize flying saucers, because you had to consider that the Navy had to be prepared that the Nazis were going to succeed in developing weaponized flying saucers.

So the Navy was looking to Botta to provide the expertise and the leadership for how to deal with that contingency. But it didn’t happen, fortunately, but Botta was the guy that the Navy had tapped to lead that effort.

David: You also have actually interviewed people associated with Rico Botta, and so could you tell us a little about that and what, in just a few minutes, is the most interesting takeaway of your research, up until now, in that department?

Michael: Well, I’ve been able to have conversations with the grandson of Rico Botta, who was able to confirm some really interesting things about Botta’s contacts with the leaders of the aviation industry at the time, that he was personal friends with Jack Northrup and William Boeing, that Botta was also someone that continued to meet with senior Navy officials.

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One official that was named was Admiral Mark Hill, who was Botta’s military aide while Botta was the head of the Navy’s Armaments Section at Philadelphia Naval Shipyards, that Mark Hill was helping Botta there as his military aide, and that after Botta retired, that Mark Hill, as an active officer and he became a Rear Admiral himself, continued to visit with Botta and have conversations.

And so, to me, that’s pretty strong evidence that Botta’s insights and knowledge about these very advanced technologies was something that was being shared, even up until the time of his retirement and subsequent death, with very senior Navy officials.

David: What do you think is going to happen with this forensic reconstruction of history in time? Will we be able to eventually get new insiders, and new whistleblowers, and really get a reconstructed view of 20th century history? Do you think that will happen?

Michael: Oh, definitely. Yeah. I think that’s what’s happening now, is we’re starting to get the chronology of how the Navy developed its Secret Space Program, involving these enormous space battle groups, and that as these names are identified, and we start to track down relatives or others that worked with them, we’re probably going to find others that are willing to talk about what it was that they experienced.

So we’re trying to do that now, and I’m hoping that in this investigation of Admiral Mark Hill and Admiral Botta and his relatives, that we’re going to have more names popping up.

David: Corey, do you have any last thoughts before we close the episode?

Corey: It’s been amazing to me, the entire process of Tompkins coming out. He’s literally providing the information, or a lot of the information, I observed in the glass pad. And to see someone come out that was giving that intel, or delivering that intel, it’s a very strange synchronicity.

And the fact that he had no idea I was coming forward – all of it seems orchestrated.

David: And we’re now getting this actual nuts and bolts documentation – connecting dots, interviewing survivors – to actually show forensic reconstruction of the whole history of what led up to you eventually being in something that most people think is just completely outrageous and beyond belief.

Corey: Absolutely. And Dr. Salla’s latest research is just bolstering it more and more.

David: Well, I want to thank you, Michael, for coming in. I think these are really groundbreaking episodes that will be of extreme historical importance as we get into Full Disclosure.

And I want to honor you for your contributions in really bringing the academic spectrum in on this whole question of our “Cosmic Disclosure” show.

Michael: Thank you, David. It’s been a pleasure. And thanks, Corey.

Corey: Thank you.

David: Thank you. And I want to thank you out there for watching. You are a very important part of “Cosmic Disclosure”. With your support, telling your friends about it, we are lifting the laughter curtain. We are bringing real academic interest into something that was so far outside the norm of what UFO researchers used to talk about, and yet, as you’re seeing, it all adds up beautifully.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode, and our special guest, from Exopolitics Institute, Dr. Michael Salla. Thank you for watching.

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David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode. And in this episode, we are going to get into the social and global implications of this virtually civilization-defining disclosure that apparently is coming our way after all this time.

It finally looks like we’re going to get at least some of the truth, and the effect is almost unimaginable.

So, Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: What the heck is going on with Senator John Kerry going to Antarctica on Election Day? What the heck was going on there? Why was he down there?

Corey: A lot of big names are going down there. Apparently, these people are being given tours of a city that was discovered under the ice a couple of miles, as well as technology, including spacecraft.

(Pete Petersen has stated that Obama and Trump have also went to see the ruins. Obama was evidently told “You too will go through a leaf grinder if you say a word, even if you breathe it at night while you sleep”. According to Pete the President doesn’t get much respect, so this is contrary to what many believe. Most Americans believe the President is in charge, unfortunately that may not be the case)

David: I heard from [Pete] Peterson independently that there are a bunch of names that have gone down there that are not public, and I’m wondering if you also heard that.

Corey: Yes.

David: So this is basically like the big tour that everybody’s getting – everybody who’s on a sufficient level of “need to know” or importance to this group is going down there.

Corey: Yes.

David: What kind of stuff is happening when they go down there? What are they seeing?

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Corey: I don’t know exactly what each individual is being shown, but I know that some of them have been shown these cities that they’ve excavated under the ice.

They’ve also been given a ride in spacecraft that have been recovered under the ice.

David: Actual recovered spacecraft?

Corey: Right.

David: Well, that’s very interesting because that ties in with something that I heard from Pete Peterson regarding Buzz Aldrin.

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(According to Pete Petersen, when Buzz Aldrin was given a tour he was amazed. When they took him on a trip in a recovered spacecraft Pete said he heard that he said “holy shit” like 7 times. He had a window to look out of and was amazed at how fast the spacecraft moved. Evidently this is what contributed to his little illness episode. Buzz told the media “I started to feel a bit short of breath so the staff decided to check my vitals,” Aldrin said on the website. “After some examination they noticed congestion in my lungs and that my oxygen levels were low which indicated symptoms of altitude sickness. This prompted them to get me out on the next flight to McMurdo and once I was at sea level I began to feel much better.” Perhaps the spacecraft moved so quickly that it induced altitude sickness in him. Some speculate he had an heart attack, but who really knows; we do know he went to the hospital though.)

So why do you think he might wear that shirt, where it’s describing traveling to Mars as an astronaut, while he’s going down to Antarctica?

Corey: Well, maybe he’s looking for a climate change on Mars. You now, that is a strange thing, especially now that we know that the ruins under the ice originate from beings that came from Mars.

(Corey and David have elaborated in previous episodes that Mars underwent some kind of catastrophe. They were forced to relocate because their planet couldn’t sustain life anymore. David and Corey have shared that the asteroid belt in our solar system used to be a planet called Maldek. This planet was destroyed in some kind of cataclysmic event. David has shared that his insider Bruce told him that a Civilization on Maldek was creating a weapon around Saturn. It was a Ring capable of sending some kind of Earthquake like attack to other planets to destroy them. When they got 2/3 done with the weapon, their enemies came and destroyed this weapon and their planet too, Maldek. This catastrophe had a devastating effect on the moon Mars and it destroyed their atmospheres. Which is why Mars is the way it is now) 

David: And you said before that we can trace that all the way back. These people have a full unbroken historical lineage to Mars.

Corey: Right. They trace their lineage back extremely far and off of this planet.

David: So the interesting thing here is, based on what you just said, Pete’s independent testimony to me when I called him and talked to him about what you were saying corroborated so many things, but then there was other stuff that you hadn’t said.

And one of them was Buzz Aldrin reached a 200,000-mile altitude and said the impolite equivalent of “holy crap” seven times as he accelerated to that altitude because it was so fast.

Then he said that Buzz was taken around the back side of the Moon, got to see all of the Manhattan-type of lights that are there, all the structures, and then passed by a base that was over Antarctica as they came back in, and they gave it what he called a wing wave.

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And that this apparently was what . . . The whole experience was so shocking to him that this is what caused him to have a heart attack.

I’m wondering if – since Pete said that so many of the assets of the space program that he’s aware of are now over Antarctica – does this whole situation sound plausible to you that this could have happened?

Corey: It does sound plausible. I don’t know the positions of the different MIC-SSP assets.

David: But this idea that the acceleration is so quick that somebody who is used to rocket-based travel might be really shocked. Does that make sense?

Corey: Oh, yes. And they most likely were on their lowest setting because normally it’s so quick you don’t . . . It’s just kind of a blur.

David: So we’re also hearing from Pete that there is a steam excavation method. You had mentioned steam excavation. But then Pete specifically said that they take large bags of water into these existing holes that are dug down in the ice. They drop the bag, and as the bag is about to hit where the ice is, they then hit it with these very high-powered microwave beams, and it all turns to steam and then, whoosh, it melts more of the ice.

Corey: That’s how they open up a tunnel down . . . or open up a corridor down to an area. The rest, they do by hand with hoses with pressurized steam. They couldn’t do that around the artifacts or it would destroy it.

A lot of what is being discovered under the ice are . . . They are finding palm trees still in the ground. They’re finding all sorts of prehistoric animals under the ice still preserved.

David: Wow!

Corey: And they’ve been bringing those back to the United States and Europe for study.

David: So you also mentioned to me in briefings that you got that this is a disclosure that is planned for a specific purpose at a specific time.

(Corey Goode has shared that some of the Antarctica ruins are going to be used in a partial disclosure narrative. According to what he’s heard they’re going to reveal these ruins to the public and also some ancient human bodies. They wont be revealing the Pre-Adamites bodies though. The Pre-Adamites are the beings that came from Mars after the catastrophe. They created a settlement in Antarctica around 500,000 years ago. After the catastrophe of Mars and Maldek. They also plan on revealing some spacecraft to the public as well; specifically the one Buzz Aldrin took a tour on.)

And that’s a very important subject. And I think it’s going to become the meat of this episode.

So we’ve been talking about the idea that this is going to come out, but we haven’t gotten really into why or when or what is the agenda. So could you give us the overview?

I know some of what you got were no-questions briefings and things like this. What is the overview of – why is all this being done, and how is it going to be used?

Corey: Well, the plan that the Cabal, and I guess the Earth Alliance, have agreed to is that they are going to release bits and pieces of the Antarctic information once there is a catalyzing event – that being they start arresting the Cabal or they start setting up tribunals.

David: ‘They’ meaning the Alliance?

Corey: The Alliance.

David: Because people might think it’s extraterrestrials if they don’t know any better.

Corey: No, the Alliance.

David: Okay.

Corey: But the Alliance is also kind of working with members of the Cabal. They’re trying to come together to find a way to ‘responsibly’ disclose information.

READ: A Message To The Earth Alliance

David: So what we have is a situation in which the Alliance does want disclosure to occur, but they feel that if we were to get all of this at once, it would overwhelm us? And so they’re picking something maybe more local, more associated with less of a leap in belief systems than UFOs and aliens?

Corey: Right. What they plan on disclosing first is that maybe, “We found a bunch of prehistoric animals. It’s amazing.” Then, “Oh, we found remnants of a civilization,” and then only report that it was a human civilization that was very ancient.

That alone is going to blow the minds of most people.

They’re going to unroll over decades . . . is what they plan.

Then they plan on announcing that we have a secret space program, and that, “By the way, the secret space program have found similar ruins around the Solar System.”

Once that occurs, then they’re going to start getting into the nonterrestrial aspect of the discoveries in Antarctica.

David: So only after they’ve done the SSP and other ruins like this in the solar system will they then talk about what you said they are calling the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria – these three 30-mile-wide motherships they found under 3½ miles of ice?

Corey: Correct.

David: So that’s pretty late in the game.

Corey: Yes. And the SSP Alliance does not want it to unfold this slowly. They want to rip the Band-Aid off and have a Full Disclosure immediately to everyone.

(The SSP Alliance is a group of individuals mainly from the Solar Warden program that want full disclosure of all secret space programs. The solar warden was a creation of the Navy. William Tompkins has shared much information on the history of the Solar Warden and how they came to be) 

David: What do you personally think is the right move?

Corey: I think that we need to just get it over with and have a Full Disclosure. I understand that it’s going to cost lives. It’s going to cost people their sanity in some cases, but we’ve got to get on with it.

If you do it in a controlled way, the key word is ‘control’. There’s always a way for someone to come in and corrupt the process.

David: In order to keep going on this thread, I want to just really clarify something else, which is part of what you just described – the tribunals. We only really briefly touched on that, but I think that’s really important.

Is there a plan for the Cabal to be brought up on public charges? And will there be some sort of remediation of our financial system and the damages they’ve done to us in that process?

Corey: What I was told is that they were going to attempt to do tribunals in secret, but that was not going to be allowed to happen. It would be leaked immediately.

(The problem I have with this Earth Alliance is there willingness to keep playing the game of lies and deception. They want to continue to keep secrets from the public and withhold vital information. We cannot heal as a race if we continue to distort the Truth to our own desires. It is time for the Truth to take the center stage. This Alliance may think they’re doing what is best for humanity, but in reality they fail to understand the great healing power of the Truth. By blocking the Truth, you block evolution. We as a people cannot fully move on until the Truth is revealed)

David: So if it’s going to be something that can’t be done in secret, that’s going to be leaked, what have you been told? Or what do you think this is going to end up turning into?

Are we going to see this on all the major cable news channels?

Corey: Yes. Yes.

David: There will be big broadcasts, which we did have with Nuremberg after World War II.

Corey: Right. They want it to be televised, even though very disturbing things are going to be covered.

But the plan is to do tribunals in secret, because the tribunals are not only going to be on the Cabal, they’re going to be on certain members of the Earth Alliance as well.

David: So do you think that there are going to be some people who – perhaps major politicians – will be having public tribunals and others who are so deeply involved in the off-the-books side of this stuff that they will not be televised?

Corey: It just depends on how things break after the tribunals are leaked. It’s going to be very dynamic.

David: Okay. Now, we’re also dealing with crimes against humanity that are staggering in scope. And it seems rather hard to believe that we could have tribunals in which such staggering and multiplicitous crimes are being pinned on to multiple individuals.

It seems like even the minimum of due process that someone would be owed, in terms of the right to a fair trial, and then the number of people who might be implicated, that we could be looking at something that could take years to unfold.

Corey: Oh, yeah.

David: Do you have any sense of who they might try to do first in this kind of a process? Who would they go after first?

Would they go after major political figures, people that are the most recognizable, people who are the highest level criminals?

Corey: You can’t go after a piece at a time. You have to decapitate them, and you have to bring them all shoulder to shoulder in front of the magistrate at once. You can’t do it in bits and pieces, or it’ll just fall apart.

David: Do you think that there might be some sort of mass arrest that precedes this in which all of the people who will be on trial are then brought into some sort of holding facility where they’re kept under guard and could not easily escape, if at all?

Corey: It’s possible. A good number of them are already under house arrest.

David: But what does house arrest mean for those who don’t already know that term?

Corey: They get to sit in their mansions, sipping tea, with armed guards outside not allowing them to leave.

David: Now, you’ve also said before that there’s been a lot of these Cabal folks that if they feel the heat is on, they’re going to try to flee to maybe Argentina, South America or Antarctica, and that there may be a sudden number of people who all want to resign at the same time or something like that.

Will they be able to evade justice?

Corey: I’ve received reports of bases that were controlled by FEMA . . . that they were supposed to turn the bases over after this election. They were ordered to turn them over, and they refused.

So they sent in Marines. The Marines cut through the concrete, the rebar, the reinforced steel, and gave everyone in the complex one chance to surrender.

If they don’t, they’re ordered to wipe them out. I heard this from one source, and another source told me that it wasn’t true, but it seems that you’ve independently . . .

David: [Pete] Peterson confirmed the same thing. And it was another one of these very shocking correspondences that led me to understand that the MIC-SSP we’ve been talking about – the Military-Industrial Complex Secret Space Program – is actually working with Pete and with you at the same time.

Corey: Right.

David: There were way too many things that Pete knew that you told me off the record.

Corey: The Marines that breached this one base I was told about and were in the middle of wiping out all of the inhabitants, they were shocked. They were not briefed that nonterrestrials exist or that they may run into them.

And these were like Special Forces Marines guys. All of a sudden they’re in front of Reptilians, and they’re doing battle with Reptilians.

And their psyches couldn’t handle it. They had a huge problem.

David: This is also something that was exactly confirmed by Pete. And about the only difference is that you just mentioned Marines, and he said that some of the people that were used were Canadian Marines as well – Marines who were trained and based in Canada that were then tasked with this.

So we’re talking about something that we’ve thought was going on for a long time. We see these strange earthquakes underneath Italy, strange earthquakes off the coast of Argentina, strange earthquakes off the coast of Malibu right actually directly around where people think there is a base off the coast of California.

So are these strange earthquakes, like in Italy, in South America, and so forth, all a part of this massive purging of underground bases?

In other words, what’s the scope of this that’s being done?

Corey: There has been quite an underground battle going on. Both sides are fighting as hard as they can right now.

David: It kind of shocks me to have heard from Pete that he got a call about how to dispose of 15,000 bodies, and they didn’t really know how to do it.

It kind of shocks me that actions are being taken where the Cabal is either being given the choice to surrender, they have one chance, or everyone in the base is eradicated.

It’s going to lead to people in the Comments Section saying, “If this is the Alliance, then what the heck is the Alliance?”

I will just tell you – before you answer the question – that as I’ve wrestled with this in my own mind and heart over the course of days – because I don’t want to support killing innocent people at all – the only rationale that I can come up with maybe for why the Alliance is doing this is that they feel as if this is an absolutely necessary thing to save the planet from total destruction, and that therefore these are casualties that are necessary in a very serious World War III that’s just a shadow World War III that we’re not aware of.

Corey: Well, if people out there are under the impression that angelic humans are going to come down and save us, they’re wrong. These are very damaged human beings that are a part of the Alliance.

Most of the time they were forced to work for the Cabal, and they resent it. They know that the Cabal would give them zero quarter if the tables were turned.

David: Right.

Corey: They’re not giving them quarter as well.

David: So would you say that there is some kind of decision that has been made that these people are so dangerous if they’re not neutralized that they would try to, for example, nuke the planet or give everyone a virus or give everyone a catastrophe, like a volcano or a tidal wave or something like this?

Would they try to destroy all human life if they weren’t wiped out like this?

Corey: Well, these are military-minded people, and the point is to complete an objective with as few casualties as possible. So that is the way they head in to all of these situations.

They are not going in looking to take prisoners or to ferret out who is innocent or not innocent in a base.

They’re ordered to go in and clean out the nest, and that’s what they do.

David: So let’s also just briefly touch on this idea that you can confirm that this is a multi-year operation that just happens to be coming to a head around the time of a presidential election, but it is not determined by the outcome of the election itself. It was already underway. It just happens to have converged.

Corey: Right. No matter who would have won the presidency, there would have been . . . things were already occurring underground.

David: And it would have led to tribunals on the surface.

Corey: Right.

David: Which gets into things that we saw in WikiLeaks and all this kind of stuff, all paving the way for that.

Corey: Correct.

David: Another one of the things that you said to me, or kind of said to me, that also was in Benjamin Fulford’s intel that I then got even more specifics from with Pete Peterson, was this idea of all of the – or at least the great majority – of the aircraft carriers from the US defense community have been brought back to port.

(Interestingly enough Benjamin Fulford also was one who was sharing information about these underground bases being attacked, cleared out and destroyed as well. The link above also has Benjamin’s statement of all aircraft carriers being returned to port.)

So I want to hear what you had to say on that, and then we’ll compare what Pete told me and try to make some sense out of what’s going on here.

Why would all of the aircraft carriers have been brought back to port? Fulford reported this. I asked Pete, and he confirmed it.

Corey: Well, there’s a number of reasons. You’re going to bring back all of your craft when there’s going to be a reshuffling of the DOD [Department of Defense].

David: Right.

Corey: So there are things going on in multiple levels.

David: So you’re going to have different people in command?

Corey: Right.

David: Okay.

Corey: So there are probably captains being swapped out, all kinds of stuff. I haven’t heard a whole lot of details about why they were back, except that they were back.

David: What Pete said to me was that these ships take six months of people working 24 hours a day, seven days a week, to be restocked.

And he said that they were being restocked with technology that we were not “supposed to” find out about for 100 years.

You had mentioned drones, and you had mentioned that there are certain drones that we might see.

So before I say what Pete said, could you talk to us about the information you were given in these briefings regarding drone aircraft?

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Corey: Sure. That we are going to start seeing more and more quadcopter-type vehicles around. They look like passenger cars with four propellers on them – four sets of propellers – that give them lift.

And they use a type of artificial intelligence – believe it or not – in the craft to allow it to have automatic air traffic control, landing. The people don’t fly them.

They get in, put in a destination, and it will fly itself.

And what I was told was that this technology would be very prolific. You will see it everywhere. They will be flying all over the place.

And they were planning on a number of years after this was commonplace – this technology was commonplace – they were going to replace the rotors on the drones with this technology that is antigravity.

And what I was told is that the antigravity craft fly in much the same way as drones with yaw, pitch. They’re controlled in very similar ways.

David: Isn’t it interesting that the sequel to the movie “Independence Day” has what looks sort of like conventional military aircraft, but with these disc-like gravity generators on them?

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Corey: Uh-hm.

David: Do you think that is a premonition of what this is actually going to look like once they do it?

Corey: Yep. They’re going to be flat, disc-shaped.

David: Okay. Interesting.

So Pete had said that we’re going to see some of the same military hardware that we’re already familiar with in there, but that there’s so much of a redesign with all this new stuff that they weren’t going to show us for 100 years. It’s all being put in.

It’s not like we might see it all immediately after they go back out from port, but the point is they’re now going to be on the ships and that it includes these three different sizes of drones that we see in these Hollywood films.

So what do you think is going to be the purpose of having three different sizes? I’m wondering if you actually heard about the three sizes?

Corey: Well, they’ve got all different types of these – what we’re calling drones. And they have different purposes like you have different sized aircraft for different purposes – delivering weapons, delivering personnel. Some of them are very large and deliver large numbers of personnel.

What I’ve also been told is that they’re retrofitting certain types of helicopters, certain types of aircraft, with this technology that we’re talking about, and that we’re going to be seeing a lot of retrofitted already conventional craft that we’re used to.

David: I want to say this because people are going to say in the comments – and I want to give voice to that because it will obviously happen; we can anticipate this – you look at movies like “The Terminator”. You look at movies like “Oblivion” with Tom Cruise and Morgan Freeman, in which drone aircraft are under control of malevolent AI, and the drones become a critical element of humanity being completely subjugated by nasty AI.

You’ve mentioned an AI problem. If these are computer-controlled drones, how do we stop this AI menace from actually taking control of all of these drones if they are deployed and trying to subjugate humanity?

Corey: I don’t know the answer to that. That’s a danger. It’s a current danger.

I still get screened for AI when I go certain places. So it is still a concern.

David: So there’s a couple of things that happened around the time of the presidential inauguration that were very anomalous, and they both happened almost simultaneously.

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One was that we have the Mexican drug lord of the Sinaloa Cartel – this guy who they call El Chapo – actually being extradited to the U.S.

So let’s talk about that one first. And the reason why I bring it up is that multiple Benjamin Fulford updates said that if he could be brought to the U.S., which the Cabal was staunchly resisting, that he would sing like a songbird.

So what do you think is the reason why El Chapo was brought to the U.S. at that time?

Corey: I believe he’s here to talk about all of the intelligence operations that involve the drug trade and name names.

David: And I want to point out in one of the episodes of my show “Wisdom Teachings”, we have a news story of guys being caught smuggling cocaine into the U.S. with the Sinaloa scorpion logo on them. And it was a massive amount.

And then when they were asked to produce ID, they had CIA identification. And they were caught by this group of 1,500 minutemen who are working . . . they’re like former military, but they’re not really part of a regular government operation.

(It’s of my opinion that El Chapo wasn’t in charge of the drug trade. There is much speculation that certain aspects of our government, more specifically the CIA are running the drugs trades to pay for their black projects or USAPs(Unacknowledged Special Access Programs). There was a article published on April 24th 2015 where a group of 7 militiamen were patrolling the US-Mexico border when they witnessed a black suv shoot across into US territory. They proceeded to chase the vehicle for 15 miles until they were able to stop it. There was two people inside the car with CIA badges and 1363 pounds of cocaine. So it is entirely possible that certain aspects of our governments are the ones in responsible for most of the drug trade.)

So what do you think is the relationship between that story and this El Chapo story?

Corey: I believe that they’re ramping up for tribunals. I believe that – as I’ve reported – they’ve had Cabal people that have turned state’s evidence, that have been singing like birds for a long time.

They’ve been sitting them in front of cameras, asking them all the questions, and they’ve been spitting out ALL the deep dark secrets.

David: Another thing that happened right before the inauguration is that both George Bush, Sr. and his wife, become hospitalized in critical condition with what appears to have been either heart attacks or stroke-type of stuff, which, of course, would be due to high stress.

Corey: I think the election was more than most of us could bear.

David: Ha, ha. Do you think that they are fearing some sort of tribunal, and that once they saw this result that that caused their health to collapse?

Corey: All of these people are in great disarray and have a lot of anxiety right now – the people that were involved in these Cabal operations.

There is a lot of movement going on in the background to close bases, to clean up their active operations – the active operations of the Cabal.

So they see all of their assets disappearing around them, and that’s what made them feel so secure in the past.

David: As you were giving me these stunning briefings, and as I was getting confirmation independently from Pete, I was living through what’s now being called the biggest amount of rainfall and flooding to hit California since 1986.

We go from no rain at all – hardly – for six years, absolutely devastating drought that they say is never going to go away, and at the time of this taping already, the drought has been completely eliminated in Northern California. It’s gone. It’s totally over.

And they were saying, “Well, there’s still kind of an extreme condition in Southern California,” but then more storms are coming in that have totally saturated Southern California. So we’re probably going to see Southern California drought-free as well.

And there’s so much water that they’re calling it “an atmospheric river”. So what do you think is going on here?

Corey And David

Corey: The information I was given is that while the Alliance has been going and taking over a lot of these bases, they have taken over these HAARP facilities [High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program ].

And what I was told was that when they shut off all of the HAARP facilities, there was an elastic snapback reaction of the atmosphere.

David: That would dovetail very interestingly with this weird arctic vortex that popped over the entire North America.

Corey: Right.

David: So do you think that’s part of what they’re talking about – the snapback?

Corey: Yes.

David: Okay.

Corey: Yeah, that it’s the Earth naturally snapping back after the weather patterns had been augmented for so long.

David: Now, that’s similar to what Pete said except that his intel was that the actual HAARP is being used benevolently now to directly steer this atmospheric river to California.

What would be the reason for why the Cabal might have been trying to eliminate water to California?

People think, “Oh, those hippies just don’t get to flush the toilet as much.” But there’s something going on here. What do you think was the objective for this drought?

Corey: The Cabal had been using HAARP and other technologies to control weather all over the planet. And when they control the weather or cause droughts or cause deluges, they are also, at the same time, sending their people in to talk to the people that control politically that region and have them manage policy based on getting the weather that they want to be able to grow crops.

David: So do you think that California being thrown into a drought is an attack against all of America and its food security?

(California is a major provider for much of the food around America. They were attempting to make life difficult for us all. This is obviously a plan that was hatched because their afraid of the people. Thus they view us as the enemy and used everything they could to destroy us.)

Corey: Yes. Yeah, that’s the breadbasket.

David: Right. So this is not just something about people not being able to water their lawns in California, it’s an attack against America itself.

Corey: Right.

David: To me, this rain – because I live in Los Angeles – I have been saying for years, we will know when the Cabal is defeated when it starts pouring rain for days and days at a time.

And right in my little hometown, we’ve had so much rain that Topanga Canyon Boulevard has been shut down for like a week.

Corey: Yeah, I saw a giant boulder blocking the road.

David: That’s right.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So the last thing that was in these briefings that I want to get to before we run out of time here, is you mentioned two other things that were very interesting that might come out along with Antarctica.

You mentioned rooms filled with gold, and you mentioned other ruins that might be seen on the seafloor.

Corey: Some unusual intel that was given to me, and it was somewhat out of place in the rest of the briefing, was that there was going to be a “discovery” of caches of ancient Mayan gold.

David: Wow!

Corey: And that this was going to be discovered and given back to the indigenous people.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah.

David: And it was fascinating on that front, because I brought this up to Pete that you had mentioned that to me, and then he had a huge story about rooms filled with gold that were actually found by Bush, Sr., and, in that case, plundered. And so there’s a lot of corroboration.

Hopefully, we can get him back to talk more about that.

The other thing you’d mentioned was undersea anomalies or bases or ancient ruins of some kind that would be announced maybe at the same time as Antarctica. Could you say more about that?

Corey: Or maybe just before.

David: Oh, just before?

Corey: The various navies of different countries for many decades have been discovering all types of ruins at a certain level below the ocean, . . .

David: Okay.

Corey: . . . certain depth, that depth and above. [Corey separates his hands about one foot.] And they have been doing sonar sweeps of them, getting all types of information, sending vessels down there that can properly excavate. And they’ve been bringing out artifacts.

And this is . . . I’m told that this is also going to be a part of some announcement about a lost civilization.

David: So one last thing I want to close with here is, do you think that the Cabal had originally intended this Antarctic disclosure to be some sort of massive distraction, maybe more benevolent, but on the level of like a 9/11 level of distraction to throw people off if these war crimes tribunals were to ever begin?

Corey: No. Originally, they had planned to slowly release this information so that we would see these royal bloodlines the way they do and treat them like gods.

David: Wow! But now you’re saying the Alliance wants to use this as part of the beginning of the healing of how long people have been lied to as the Cabal is brought to justice.

Corey: Right, right. And the Cabal still wants to manage the release of the information, as do many of the Alliance.

David: So do you think that it’s possible that some of the things that we’ve said, or the order in which it’s done, could be changed around by the fact that we’ve already disclosed it now?

Corey: Yes. This is all very dynamic. Decisions are being made. They’re having all types of meetings to come to a consensus between the Cabal and the Alliance.

And they’re doing this to prevent open warfare. If they don’t come to a consensus and find a way to work together to disclose this information and to bring the worst of the worst to trial, then we’ll end up with a world war.

David: And can you confirm, lastly, what Pete has also said, which is that certain websites, like www.express.co.uk – new story, new story, ruins in Antarctica, lost civilization in Antarctica, professors down in Antarctica, Buzz Aldrin goes to Antarctica.

All of a sudden, it’s like there’s some crazy amount of correlation between what little old you and me said and all of this stuff coming out in the media. What do you think is going on there?

Corey: They’re trying to pepper the consciousness with seeds of information so they’re not so shocked when they hear it.

And they’re also trying to control the narrative.

David: All right. Well, you heard it here first. I really hope that this stuff comes true. Thank you, Corey. It’s very brave for you to be stepping out there and giving us this information. The war is getting hot.

Corey: Yeah.

David: It’s very contentious right now.

And I want to thank you out there for watching us, supporting us here at Gaia, and making sure that we are on a path towards Full Disclosure. Thanks for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: TRANSFORMATION POWER OF THE GREAT SOLAR FLASH

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. And we’re going into part two of our examination into the great solar flash with our special guest, Jay Weidner, who has been researching this exact subject and how it relates to alchemy and how it relates to Stanley Kubrick and the movies “2001”, etc., for many, many years now.

He’s one of the only people out there who’s been doing this longer than I have. So, Jay, welcome back to the show.

Jay Weidner: Hey, thanks.

David: Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we’re going to get right back to where we were with the Brown Notebook, which is amazing information given to someone who was actually contacted in person – just like what’s been happening to you, Corey – brought on board a ship by benevolent beings, brought up there, given a tour, and then they get telepathic information, which comes in the form of this channeling.

And what we’re seeing here is one of the earliest verified channelings from the 1950s. This guy W. B. Smith gave people a list of 200 questions, and everybody who answered in the same way, he was able to verify, because it was based on classified intel.

So people all over the country who have never spoken to each other, they all could answer these questions properly.

This is a verified channeling. It’s one of the only ones we have. And when you read what W. B. Smith said about those channelings, he said it contained religious-sounding information about the end of the age. But he never went into detail.

Now, look at this. This is mind-blowing.

1 Brown Notebook 1

“I’m happy to be with you this morning. The things we will talk about this morning are very serious. Humans in their present state on your planet must change in order to survive. Many things will take place on this planet. Therefore, you will have to change with the planet.”

Now check this out.

“This solar system is moving into an area of space where the vibrations are much higher. This will cause changes in your planet’s features. It will also cause changes in your peoples. The vibrations on the planet will become higher. Therefore, you will have to raise your vibrations in order to exist on your planet. These vibrations can only be raised by the peoples’ thinking.”

Jay: Well, there you go.

David: I mean . . .

Jay: Wow!

David: That’s the money shot right there.

Jay: That really is.

David: Now, Corey, do you think, based on this, that if the Sphere Alliance is putting up an outer barrier around the Solar System, and these ETs, these Draco, Orion-types can’t get out, do you think that, based on this kind of information, that they’re just not even going to be able to exist if they stay in here once this happens?

2 Corey Goode

Corey: That’s exactly what the Sphere Being Alliance communicated to me.

David: Oh, they did?

Corey: Yeah. And not only the Draco, but other non-terrestrials that are here intervening. They will not be compatible with the new vibration, or energy.

David: Let me just play devil’s advocate for just a moment. Don’t you think it’s possible that, for people in the Cabal, that if they’re looking at these benevolent ETs, or allegedly benevolent ETs, as actually facilitating things like the fall of Atlantis, which we talked about last time, things like this, in which there actually is a mass death of negative beings, don’t you think that the negative beings could see these benevolent beings as terrorists?

Corey: Oh, yeah. Yeah. They’re going to see them as the enemy, of course.

David: Because they just want to be able to go on doing what they’re doing forever and not be interrupted.

Corey: And according to their theologies and philosophies, they’re doing what is ‘good’. So they see these, what we call benevolent beings, they see them as evil.

David: Now, Jay, why do you think it’s necessary for these negative entities to physically expire?

3 Jay Weidner

Jay: Well, because they’re dictators of the whole Solar System, and this is a good thing.

Fulcanelli tells us in his chapter on the Cross of Hendaye that many beings will die when this event comes, all right, but not all. And I think he was really talking about this cleansing, a cleansing of the whole area and getting rid of a lot of negative entities.

So I think that they are going to die, and I think that they’re really worried – very worried. And I’ve heard this from other sources, not just Corey.

David: I mean, how bizarre is it that we got this guy – I think it’s Nebraska or something like that, in the middle of Nebraska – [who] doesn’t know anything about ancient prophecy? He’s just an ordinary dude, gets brought up there, and they start giving this information through him.

Jay: Definitely my sources have told me that in the 1950s aliens began telepathically talking to very good humans, giving them information in order to facilitate the evolutionary shift of the human race to bring us into a larger manifold. That’s what I’ve been told.

And the Sun is a central part of this thing. And the change that the Sun is going through is a central part of this thing.

David: Now, Corey, in The Law of One – we discussed this already – there was a statement about the idea that the illusion of space-time is granted for us to have the experiencer of seeing the results of our actions.

Do these . . . Is death part of the illusion of space-time?

Corey: Well, I guess it would be, since we’re having our experience within that medium. But death is a part of also the learning experience.

David: So these beings aren’t really dying per se. They’re just being removed from one level of the planetary or interplanetary game.

Corey: They’re being, I guess, recycled.

David: Right. And because space-time is ultimately an illusion, it does appear that these potential . . . that these periodic mass catastrophes, although there is the appearance of physical death within the illusion, that it’s more like gardening, right?

Jay: Hm mm.

David: It’s like plowing the field to harvest.

Jay: Yes.

David: What is the harvest? What happens, Jay?

Jay: Yeah.

David: It’s the tilling of the soil, right?

Jay: That’s right, yeah.

David: So what do the alchemists think about this idea of the metaphor of rebirth? They’ve used the ‘new dawn’ language in this.

Jay: Yep. They are not . . . They don’t believe that death is the end. They believe that you want to extend human life to give each human enough time to figure things out. And they think we’ve been somehow messed with, so we have a short lifespan. And so we can never figure things out.

We die at like 70, 80, and that’s it, right? And it’s really not enough time to actually figure things out.

So alchemists try to do things to extend their life so they have more time here to figure it out. And the alchemists lore is that the average human can live to be 300 to 800 years old.

And just imagine if we lived to be 800 years old, how the world would be changed. There would be no wars, because nobody’s going to fight war if you’ve got 780 years left to live, right?

David: Sure.

Jay: You’re not going to have children until you’re 200 years old. You’re going to be very wise when you have children. Your children are going to be very wise.

You go to college until you’re 150. You know what I mean? I mean, it’s just a completely different world, and they’ve denied this to us.

The patriarchs in the Bible lived to be 900 years old, so . . .

David: Right.

Corey: Well, even the oldest and wisest among us right now are still spiritual children.

Jay: They are. And it’s a very important part of our future to have us live longer lives. I think that’s part of the vibratory change that’s going to happen. And we’re going to start living longer.

We already are actually living longer lives. When my grandparents were in their 60s, they looked like they were in their 90s, right? Nowadays, people in their 90s looked like people who used to be in their 60s.

Corey: And it’s not because of all the pharmaceuticals we’re pumping through them?

Jay: Ha, ha.

Corey: Ha, ha.

Jay: I hope not. Again, the pharmaceuticals could be a way to mitigate the shift that they don’t want, right?

Corey: Yes.

Jay: Right? The fluoride in the water – when did it happen? The 1950s, right? And what does fluoride do? It calcifies your pineal gland.

Corey: Well, on that point, they do put things in the food and water that have metals and things that bring down our density, that keep our density lower.

Jay: That’s right. We know that.

David: Well, the first Project Camelot whistleblower, alias, Mr. X, said that he was going through documents at a military defense contractor, and documents from the 1950s described that meeting with what you were calling the Blues and Eisenhower, in which the government denied them their request to bring us into a peaceful age as long as we had nuclear disarmament.

But then they said, “If you cover this up, you can get away with it up until 2012, and at that point we’re coming back whether you like it or not. There’s nothing you can do about it.”

So, Corey, since so many of these prophecies have revolved around the year 2012, the Mayan Calendar end date – there were crop circles that said it – does it appear, since you’re got this date range of 2018 to 2023, that maybe we got an extension to have a little more time from what the original intention of the end date was?

Corey: You know, I don’t know, but it’s become very obvious from the panic and how quickly things are changing in the programs that the 2018 beginning date has obviously moved up.

Things are happening very quickly. So I think things are happening before these different Cabal groups had planned out. They were using these different techniques to view the probable future, getting information from non-terrestrials, and they were basing their plans on that – on that date.

David: Well, we’re actually not done with The Brown Notebook. And if this hasn’t already blown you away, there’s more to come. So let’s check that out.

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“Thinking better thoughts of everything in the creation, more spiritual thoughts, thoughts that will lift the people of Earth out of the darkness and mud they have lived in for so long. The principal of free will still exists. You may change and live on this planet in a true divine kingdom, or you may choose not to and destroy yourself and then be reincarnated back in another third-density, materialistic world, where you continue to try to learn your lessons. You should change so you can see the revealing of this divine kingdom. This has been a rather long message, so I will leave you now.”

David: So what they’re saying there is the idea of planetary recycling, people being transported.

So, Corey, when we have these giant Spheres coming into the Solar System and then The Law of One source says that their job is the management and transfer of planetary populations, how do the Spheres . . . do you think . . . is it possible that those Spheres will be transporting people to other worlds once this transition is complete based on what we’re seeing here?

Corey: It’s absolutely possible because that’s how they’ve transported me.

David: Ah, right. So why wouldn’t they have the technology to portal out people by the hundreds of millions or billions?

Corey: Oh, yeah, easily.

David: The same way that they just did with you.

Corey: Yeah. And if they can use these Spheres to contain the entire Solar System, that’s child’s play to them.

Jay: And I’ve heard from high sources that they can just – “pfshht” – pick you right up and take you away. It just happens in a flash. And a lot of these missing people disappear this way, I think.

David: Absolutely.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Now, this is another quote from a later session. It’s the same kind of thing – totally amazing.

5 Brown Notebook 3

“This planet and solar system are moving into a new area of vibrations in which the conditions as they are now on this planet will not survive. That is why the people of this planet must learn the truth concerning the divine creation. Love, peace and harmony is all that will exist in the true creation. Many will not believe our story, but if they do not they are not punished . . . They are simply [David clears his throat] removed to another planet, in a just manner . . . where they will try to learn their lessons of love, peace and harmony all over again. . . .”

Jay: Interesting.

“People of all planets must live in love, peace and harmony if they are to receive the full blessings of the divine kingdom.”

Jay: Nice.

David: So once again, they’re reiterating that everybody has to learn this, and if you don’t get it, you continue your education on another planet somewhere else. And again, this seems totally to be what’s happening with these Spheres.

We’re actually seeing the technological or more measurable physical aspect of how they all kind of come in at the last minute right before this thing’s going to happen.

Corey: Right.

David: Do you think . . . I mean, the Spheres have to be here to do something, don’t you think, Jay?

Jay: I do.

David: They’re not just there for show.

Jay: I do. This is very interesting, because, I mean, you know, that’s . . . it’s almost like the New Age Rapture. It makes you wonder if this is where the Rapture and all of that came from.

David: Absolutely. Let’s go on [and] have another one, because this is actually talking about the Cabal now and then why that change is necessary.

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“Others try to rule by force. This should not be. Free will was created, but why should the wrong thinking of a few be forced upon many? All of these things are making an unbalanced condition on and around your planet. At times, the [father-mother-god] has to rebalance some of the planets and solar systems. That is what is about to take place on your planet. Conditions on your planet can cause unbalance in the whole Solar System, so it must be balanced back into the harmony of the creation.”

Jay: There you go.

David: So doesn’t it sound like here, if they’re saying . . . and they’re using a patriarchal term, but as people are reading, “the Father has to rebalance the planets and solar systems.”

Doesn’t that sound like the idea of these Spheres, like the Outer Barrier and all this kind of stuff?

Corey: Well, yes, because one of the things that was explained and shown to me was that these Spheres were spaced out throughout our Solar System and acting as a buffer, like a harmonic buffer, for these energies that were coming into our Solar System to give us more time to acclimate and adjust.

David: And it says here that the “rule by force” is creating an “unbalanced condition” and that they will, or whoever this Father is that they’re talking about, has to rebalance what the Cabal has done.

So the defeat of the Cabal is obviously of key importance in this solar-system-wide rebalancing, which they’re saying is some kind of flash of energy from the Sun.

I mean, to me this stuff pays off everything we’ve been talking about. It’s just amazing.

Jay: It certainly is. Now it goes back to what I’ve heard was happening in the ’50s. And again, everything happened in the ’50s. Everything started there.

Corey: Oh, yeah.

David: Tompkins’ data was that 1,500 different people were getting . . .

Jay: 1,442 people. The intelligence agencies had discovered 1,400 people who were in telepathic communication, just normal people, not physicists or anything. There were physicists, but others were guys like this guy from Nebraska and uncovering amazing amounts of knowledge, including Tompkins himself, who was receiving one of the 1,400, and he was receiving information about how to build space vehicles and things like that.

Corey: Now, is this “the 1,442 contactees”?

Jay: Yeah.

Corey: They call them “the 1,442”?

Jay: Yeah, “the 1,442”.

Corey: Huh.

David: Tompkins, in his book, describes that the people he’s working with are throwing him these impossible questions and saying, design us a transport vehicle to get from cavern A to cavern B, and we need it by Saturday.

And he has no idea what he’s going to do, and then he just channels it. And then they don’t tell him what they’re doing with it.

Jay: No. And he’s unsure of where he’s getting the information from. At the same time, he doesn’t know how he could possibly build a ship that can house 300 people in a weekend. Ha, ha.

David: And then he concludes that they must be getting it telepathically from extraterrestrials.

Jay: Yes. Right – good extraterrestrials. And you think about if what Corey is saying is true, there’s bad ETs here. You don’t want to really face them. So how would you defeat them? You would do it this way. This is the most intelligent way to do it.

David: Balance the Solar System.

Jay: Yeah, balance the Solar System by taking good people, like this guy is, and feeding them information and getting him to release it. This stuff should have probably been released in the ’50s.

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David: Yeah. So now this little quote, I’m not going to go into too much detail except just to say that it says, “I am your teacher and friend Hatton” at the end of the top one, and then “I am Latue” at the bottom one.

Hatonn and Latue are the two beings that were talking to Carla that she was channeling before she starts to channel The Law of One.

So these same beings found their way to Carla. Here’s the beings – they’re naming themselves – that are giving us these prophecies.

So they’re still out there. Nebraska guy is not online anymore, but they jump over to Carla, and they start giving her the information. And that’s what tuned her up to be able to receive The Law of One.

Jay: Right.

BAIRD WALLACE: GRAND SUMMARY

8 Publication Date Of The Space Story

David: So now what we have here is this book by Baird Wallace that summarizes all of what these different contactees were saying in the 1950s and ’60s. He puts it all together in one unified message.

9 The Space Story And The Inner Light

And I’m going to show you the publication date, June 1972. [i] scanned it right out of the book. You could probably still find this if you really look for it. It’s called “The Space Story and The Inner Light”, and I’m going to read you some quotes from this. We’re not going to read it from the typewritten form here. You can pause it on your TV if you want to see that.

I’m just going to read it in a nice, favorable way like this.

10 The Space Story 1

“The contact information states that our Solar System is at this time in transit. . .” – remember this is 1972 – “. . . from the Third to the Fourth Density . . . ” [David: There it is. That’s all the way back before The Law of One. They’re already using the word ‘density’.] “. . . of the System of Vela . . . “ [David: That comes from George Van Tassel’s information.] “. . . and that this change which literally is a transition into a new area of space is happening now. This movement changes the vibratory rate of the magnetic energies in the nucleus of the atoms of our world now.”

David: So, Jay, this sounds a lot like alchemical.

Jay: It is. It is. Fulcanelli intimates several times in his book, “Mysteries of the Cathedrals”, that the entire human race is an alchemical experiment.

Corey says that 22 different races have come here to experiment on us. Other people have told me the same thing. And I think that, if I may, the experiment, I think, is, can we take a guttural creature, like in “2001”, and transform them into a very advanced spiritual being?

That, I think, is the main experiment. There’s other experiments, like Corey says.

Corey: But you’re right. It’s genetic and spiritual. They say it’s genetic and spiritual in context.

Jay: Genetic and spiritual. And as things like Gaia come out into the world, we’re raising the vibe of everything and changing the game. And I think that Gaia is a big part of this whole change in consciousness.

David: Let’s hear more of what he had to say about this meta analysis of all the different contact information.

“[This event] will have great impacts on the form and expression of plant and animal life on our planet and it will have great impact on the consciousness of [humanity]. This has already started and is being amplified because [Earth humans have] fallen behind the evolution of [their] planet in [their] spiritual evolution and [are] not prepared for this change.”

David: Now, Corey, this is from 1972. Did you hear anything that sounded like that?

Corey: Well, what I said earlier, the Spheres are here to buffer the energy so we can acclimate at a slower rate because the Earth is changing faster than we are. And that’s why . . . If they didn’t do that, there were going to be more catastrophe . . . Earth changes happening and catastrophes because of it, and there would be fear and all that kind of stuff that would make it harder for us to raise our vibration.

David: So they really have needed this sort of intercession of the Sphere technology because we’re not ready, just like it said here in ’72.

Corey: Right.

David: Pretty amazing, huh?

Jay: Pretty amazing.

David: 40 years before 2012.

Corey: And them talking about the Solar System moving . . . because I hear people talking about the Solar System as being hit by all these energies . . .

David: Or the photon belt.

Corey: Right. It’s shocking to hear that they’re saying the same thing the Secret Space Program was saying, is that our Solar System is moving into a part of the galaxy that has like a nebula of clouds, high-energy particle clouds, that are causing changes to our Sun and our Solar System.

David: And you said they were sending guys into those clouds in spaceships to see what happened to them, right?

Corey: Right. Well, they were sending them out there to investigate. And people . . . weird things were happening to them. They were having breakdowns, psychological breakdowns.

David: Well, could you go through that? Like, different . . . Not everybody responds to the cloud the same way, right?

Corey: Exactly. And they were artificially recreating this energy in closed environments and having unsuspecting people go in thinking that they’re doing unrelated work and seeing what it did to them. And they were doing it to our own people.

David: What are some of the things that happened?

Corey: Well, people that went in that were like sociopaths, they went nuts. They lost it.

Jay: That’s actually what I’ve heard is about to happen.

Corey: Yeah. And the people that were positively oriented started getting all blissful and just happy and whistling, that kind of thing. And people that had, you know, people that had psychological issues, those became enhanced.

David: Wow! So this is really lining up very beautifully with what he’s saying.

Jay: So the good get better and the bad get worse.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: And the crazy get crazier.

David: All right, so now we’re going to go on with this quote from this amazingly vetted-out material and just see how much more it lines up with everything we’ve been discussing.

“The quality of life in the Fourth Vela Density, which we are now moving into, is the quality of emergence, the recognition from childhood of the Inner Presence of our Creator. [Earth humans] in this cycle, will undergo many changes and refinements in the sensitivity of [their] own [bodies].”

Now, Jay, you said before that there was a really interesting Masonic ritual where they keep you in the dark for a long time . . .

Jay: Right.

David: . . . and then bring you out. Could you just kind of go over that again here?

Jay: Well, again, this goes back to the pineal gland. It’s kind of like tricking the pineal gland, you might say. This is a poor man’s way of getting the Elixir of Life.

So we know that serotonin is emitted from the pineal gland when light strikes it in the morning. And we know that melatonin comes out of the pineal gland when you’re in the dark.

We know that melatonin reverses the aging process, okay? And so what they would do, in my opinion, was they would put you in a dark room for three days, complete darkness, and then your brothers, the Freemasonic brothers, would come, and they would put you into a dark coffin, light-free coffin, and then they would take you to either the top of a mountain or the top of a building, somewhere where you could see the rising Sun. And you’re blindfolded.

And if anybody knows the Masonic rituals, this is starting to make a lot of sense.

David: Oh, yeah.

Jay: And so then you’re taken out of the coffin, and your brothers face you towards the Sun. They take off your blindfold, and the Sun hits your eyes. And for three minutes, you have to stare into the Sun.

Then you put your blind . . . By the way, it’s like a psychedelic experience when this happens.

David: Well, your brain has generated tons of melatonin.

Jay: Absolutely. We know that DMT is very close anatomically to serotonin, okay? And so what you’re doing is you’re getting almost like an endogenous DMT rush. It’s your own DMT, though. It’s homeopathic.

David: So it’s like the melatonin is methylated. It gets suddenly transformed.

Jay: Into a super-serotonin.

David: Right.

Jay: And then they put you back in the casket, and they take you back into the dark room. You have to stay for 40 days.

David: Total darkness.

Jay: Total darkness. No light. And then what happens is that the super-serotonin turns into super-melatonin, all right?

So first it was melatonin. Then the light activates. It turns into a higher vibratory super-serotonin. And then once you get in the dark, that’s transferred to super high vibratory super-melatonin, which begins to almost immediately reverse the aging process.

And supposedly you will lose 15, 20 years in this 40 days that you’re in there.

And it’s not a pleasant experience, from what I’ve heard.

David: Do they hit you with light again at the end of the 40 days?

Jay: No, they let you out.

David: Oh.

Jay: That’s supposed to be . . . They let you out at night because it’s very, very difficult to get back into the light after you’ve been in this experience. Your eyes are very sensitive. So usually, they let you out at night, and you usually become a night person for a little while.

David: Corey, have you heard of maybe some more advanced, perhaps chemical or energetic, means where some process, like what he’s describing, might be able to advance people’s psychic ability?

Corey: Well, yes. They chemically enhanced intuitive empaths with shots. Intuitive empaths that I run into are extremely advanced, but if they were to go for like six weeks or eight weeks without these shots, their abilities begin to diminish.

Jay: Right.

David: All right, well let’s go on with this because we got a little more of this to get through.

“The whole new vista and scope of the nature of life will open up before them, and they will live with the knowledge of their purpose and a deep, in-dwelling allegiance to the Spirit of the Creator.”

David: That sounds great. Now, we’re going to talk about this quote here, about what happens. And, again, we’re not going to read it off the paper. We’re going to do these nice slides.

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“Summarizing various sources dealing with these events . . . “ [the solar flash] “. . . major rearrangements in the orientation of the planets and the satellites within the Solar System will occur.”

David: Now, before we go on any further here, Corey, have you heard about planetary orbits changing, like maybe the Earth’s orbit extending in the number of days it takes, things like that, once this happens?

Corey: Yeah. And also about the orbits of the planets, that unlike some other solar systems, the planets are all askew. They’re not in harmony at all. That’s . . . Yeah, that’s very interesting.

David: Isn’t this crazy? 1972.

Corey: Yeah.

“Vulcan, the closest planet to the Sun, will be absorbed into the Sun; . . . “

David: And in The Law of One, they say it’s a first-density planet, so it’s not visible to us. It’s like an energy ball.

Jay: Right.

David: It’s not actually visible, but it gets reabsorbed.

“. . . Pluto will be [kicked out of our Solar System]; . . .”

David: It kind of already has been by NASA. Ha, ha.

Jay: It already has. Ha, ha.

“. . . our Moon is expected to leave [the] orbit of [the] Earth and become [its own] planet; . . .”

David: That’s interesting. I don’t know if I’d agree with that, but it probably will get kicked out, at least jettisoned from the Earth’s orbit.

Jay: It is slowly moving away from the Earth.

“. . . and there will be major changes in the orbital paths of the remaining planets.”

David: So I mean, there again is exactly what we’re anticipating based on insider data. Now, let’s go on and read the rest of this.

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“A new balance will come about, which will result in many advantages to the expression of a more spiritualized life within the Solar System.”

David: That is Ascension, obviously.

“I believe . . . “ [This is the author speaking.] “. . . that this event is literally the cosmic manifestation of the fulfillment of the words which Jesus the Christ spoke in describing these times, the event of the coming of the bridegroom.”

David: And that is in the same book of Matthew right after they talk about the harvest metaphor. The bridegroom is just another symbol – the wedding, the alchemical wedding – . . .

Jay: It’s the alchemical wedding.

David: . . . the wedding of flesh to spirit.

Jay: That’s right.

David: Like the eclipse.

Jay: That’s exactly right. That’s what they’re saying there. They’re talking alchemy there.

David: And Jay, Kubrick is using eclipses and stuff all the time in “2001”, isn’t he?

Jay: All through “2001” there’s at least five eclipses in the movie.

David: So do you think Kubrick was aware of this biblical analogy to the wedding of flesh and spirit?

Jay: Oh, I do. Absolutely, I do. I believe that he was . . . I don’t know if he was a practicing alchemist, but he definitely understood alchemy . . . and the Cabal.

David: Now, why do you think Kubrick at the last minute dissed the guy that wrote the score and then picks “Thus Spake Zarathustra”?

Jay: What do you think? Ha, ha, ha.

David: Well, I already know the answer. I’m just kind of throwing him a bone here.

Jay: I know the answer, too, because Zarathustra was the Persian alchemist. And from the very beginning, he’s saying, “This is alchemy. Thus spoke the alchemist.”

And the opening trumpet from “Thus Spake Zarathustra” is over the eclipse at the beginning of “2001”. So there you go.

David: Zarathurstra is Zoroaster, . . .

Jay: That’s right.

David: . . . who is the author of the prophecy of Frashokereti, . . .

Jay: That’s right.

David: . . . where the Sun gives off this flash and transforms humanity.

Jay: Yep.

David: All right. So we’re just going to finish this out really quickly, because we’re almost done there. I just want you guys to hear this last little bit.

“The contact sources tell us that the solar emanations from the new Sun will have a direct impact in the refining and spiritualizing of [our] nervous systems as we pass into the new condition of life which celestial events are bringing to this world.”

Jay: Okay. So the “refining and spiritualizing of the nervous system” . . . The nervous system carries electrical currents through your body.

David: Yeah.

Jay: The Sun is essentially an electric Sun, as Corey has pointed out.

Corey: It is.

Jay: And so when the new Sun comes, it again goes through your eyes, hits your endocrine system, changes the nervous system, makes us more electric, advanced. So we can live longer.

David: Right.

Jay: We’re light bodies.

David: And the eclipse is like a metaphorical example of a conjunction that’s much greater, an alignment that leads to this solar emanation.

Jay: That’s right. That is exactly right.

David: All right. Well, Corey, I mean, what do you think about all this from 1972?

Corey: It’s unbelievable. I mean, I was two years old. Ha, ha. And this information, I didn’t hear until fairly recently from, of course, a much different nonterrestrial source.

David: Do you think there’s any possibility that somebody could have faked all this – the guy in Nebraska in 1958 – Baird Spalding [David means Baird Wallace.], 1972, reading all these different vetted-out channelers and how well it lines up with what you know?

Is there any way this could have been faked or somebody could have made this as a big hoax?

Corey: This is way before the time of the Internet, and your average library, I don’t know if they would have all this information. And if it did, you would have to hunt and peck for years. That just doesn’t seem practical.

David: Well, knowledge was kept secret, too, right, Jay?

Jay: Yeah, of course it was kept secret. This is clearly absolute proof, as proof as you can get, that what they’re saying about this extraterrestrial telepathic contact was really truly going on.

David: Absolutely.

Jay: Yeah. I mean, I was around back then. I wasn’t very old, but we were not very sophisticated in 1972. This is pretty sophisticated stuff.

David: Yeah, it’s stunning. And this is stuff that was classified in secret societies, and yet, these guys in Nebraska are pulling it in.

Jay: And probably driving the Cabal crazy.

David: Oh, yeah.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Oh, yeah. They’re trying to stop this.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Well, that’s all the time we have for this episode. I hope you’re as amazed as I am.

I wanted to present this information to you properly. I’ve been holding onto this stuff for a long time. I used to always close my conferences with this.

This to me is some of the crown jewels of my whole collection. And now with the three of us together, it’s really the right way to present it to you. I hope you’ve enjoyed it.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure:”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, with our special guest, Jay Weidner, and I thank you for watching.

 

 

2017 Conscious Life Expo Promo Video with Corey Goode and David Wilcock! (New Information/Intel in Video)

I extremely enjoyed watching this video; not only is it informative; but also very positive. To hear Corey Goode say that the Cabal’s end is near is a very positive sign in my opinion. Especially if what he’s been revealing to humanity is actually true; if he’s really been interacting with the Guardians, SSP and Inner Earth Beings and has a positive outlook for humanities’ future that’s saying a lot. 

I based that upon the fact that many people whom are immersed in this world with the Cabal, extraterrestrials and UFOs can tend to have pessimistic outlooks for our future. I’ve heard that many in the SSP are quite negative. In fact; Corey Goode has revealed that the Guardians are using him as a ambassador to spread their message because of the fact they don’t wish to directly work with the SSP. 

Which of my opinion kind of signals that they’re just as human as you and I. They have the same problems as we on the surface. The only difference is the environment; that’s about it. 

Awesome stuff guys; enjoy the video and have a blessed day. Victory of the Light.

Timothy Frappier

Source: TruthEarth

So Corey uploaded a promo video of some of his and David’s talk at the CLE from last week and boy is it interesting! I will post it below, it’s only about 15 minutes so it won’t take too long to get through, plus when the information is this interesting it’s hard to look away!

They discuss new things that they haven’t gone over yet and there are some great graphics that are included. I highly recommend this one.

Thanks for reading everyone and much love.