Corey Goode on Nordic Extraterrestrials working with Religious Leaders for Disclosure

Source: Exopolitics

The following answers were received from Corey Goode on June 26 in response to questions I sent to him about information he shared recently in an article about the Vatican being involved in an extraterrestrial disclosure initiative. In his responses, he provides further details about what he has been told by multiple sources about ongoing events involving the Vatican, Nordic extraterrestrials and a US Air Force run secret space program.

For those still questioning the credibility of Goode and his disclosures, I recommend an article published on June 11 where documents and professional references are provided that prove two prominent UFO investigators were conducting a hoax investigation into Goode. The investigators clearly attempted to tarnish Goode’s credibility by saying his former career as a well-respected and highly paid Information Technology consultant was wholly contrived, and therefore he is a “pathological liar”.

I have to date communicated with three Information Technology experts who have corroborated Goode’s professional IT background, and they added that he continues to be highly regarded. In all, five IT professionals have vouched for Goode, four of whom have provided recommendations listed in Goode’s LinkedIn account. What this information clearly shows is that Goode was indeed a highly respected IT professional before going public in 2014 with his extraordinary whistleblower claims.

This does not prove any of Goode’s remarkable statements about secret space programs, but it does establish his credibility as a whistleblower whose information deserves serious scrutiny. Since coming forward, irreparable damage has been done to his prospects of working in the IT industry again. What follows adds important information about the role of the Vatican and the U.S. Air Force in impending disclosure initiatives involving Nordic (human looking) extraterrestrials.

Questions and Responses

Q1. Can you explain who told you about a group of extraterrestrials working with the Vatican and other religious leaders about alien disclosure?

I had heard this info in various forms for at least the last 6 months. I think I first heard it from Gonzales. Most recently “Sigmund” and his 2 Airmen Escorts have mentioned it as well. On June 15th, while discussing a number of topics Ka Aree mentioned it in the same conversation of the M.[Muhammad] Accords now being ignored by up to 4 Non-Human Groups.

Q2. What do you know of the Nordic extraterrestrials working with the religious community and why does Ka Aree consider them “brothers and sisters in the Confederation?

Ka Aree stated that the Nordics have worked with Humanity for a very long time. They have mostly worked quietly in the background, but do pop up in historical documents referenced as “Angels”. They would directly interact with certain groups within the Military and Government (including the founding fathers of the United States) as well as with various religious leaders. They have been heavily involved in developing Humanity in a number of ways.

First they (& other races) began to manipulate our DNA to assist in the ability to use speech and to have higher cognitive abilities. Then they developed civilization and base religions with humanity. During this time, Humanity began another important stage of our evolution. The Industrial and Technological Booms were assisted by a number of races including the Nordics. From the beginning these groups were manicuring our consciousness through belief systems and religions.

New belief systems and religions have been crafted by these groups (the Nordics in particular) up until the present day. In fact, The Airforce General we call “Sigmund” had just completed a report prior to his disappearance. In the report he concluded that the experiences I am having are all created and controlled by the Nordics. Further, his report stated that he and his superiors were convinced that this same Nordic group had created the Law of One information as well. He was convinced from the moment I met him that the Nordics were behind this.

The report stated there is no evidence of a NAVY SSP or credible reports from within the Airforce Space Command of there being a barrier around the solar system or a new group of ET’s arriving in Planet Sized Spheres.  This is very interesting knowing that Sigmund did indeed make contact with members of the Navy SSP and even arrested and interrogated a few of them. This report was dated in April 2017, just prior to his disappearance. I’m not at all sure that he wrote the report that was filed under his name.

Q3. What were you told about the contents of an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement in terms of why it would become the basis for a new world religion?

After these beings are introduced, they expect the public will have a lot of questions about the ET’s. The ET’s beliefs and knowledge of the Universe and God would be among the top questions. At this point these beings are expected to share a newly crafted belief system that is based on the ET’s true belief system. These beings will be doing this to help Humanity from the ET perspective.

Q4. You say 90% of people will adopt the new religion quickly. Were you told why it would happen so quickly?

It is expected that most will question their belief systems in the first few years of an introduction to ET’s. Humanity will understand how little we know and will be reaching out to these new “friends” for assistance and answers. This sets up a situation for the majority of people on the planet to adopt a similar belief system that gets them away from the current division.

Q5. What do you know of such an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement being preceded by disclosure of a Military Industrial Complex Secret Space Program?

The MIC SSP (Air Force/NSA etc…) have been preparing for the disclosure of their program. I have not heard of them doing this in tandem with an ET announcement other than the Antarctic ruins being disclosed along with more “Ancient Alien” artifacts around the Solar System. This narrative was supposed to first….

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COSMIC DISCLOSURE: REVEALING THE ORIGINAL SECRET SPACE VEHICLES WITH MARK MCCANDLISH

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I hope you’re having an amazing day, and maybe after you see this episode, it’s going to become even more amazing. I’m here with Corey Goode, and we have a special guest today, Mark McCandlish, one of the original thirty-nine whistleblowers who came forward at the Disclosure Project event on May 9, 2001, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. to disclose the reality of the extraterrestrial presence on Earth.

|So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: All right. We’re going to start now with an intro and overview of Mark, in his own words, from his background. Let’s take a look.

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MARK’S STORY

Mark McCandlish: My electronics aptitude was so high right out of high school that the Air Force was really enthusiastic about getting me to work on something like a weapons control system on aircraft. So that’s where I wound up going.

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After I got out of the Air Force, I used the GI Bill to go to Brigham Young University, studying design illustration. And then I went to Art Center College of Design as an automotive design major and eventually changed my major to just straight illustration when I began to see that the bottom was about to fall out of the automotive industry, and they weren’t going to be hiring any designers in the late ’70s, early ’80s.

And that’s when I went to work for the defense industry.

I had been approached by the Calabasas Division of Lockheed, and I think this was right at or right before the time that Lockheed joined with Martin Marietta and became Lockheed Martin.

And the gentleman that had asked me to prepare this illustration said that, “We can’t tell you what it looks like. We can’t tell you anything about the aircraft, only that it’s the second generation in an existing family of extremely high speed, high altitude aircraft.

And so we need you to draw a picture of something that looks really fast.

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So I looked around, and the two fastest aircraft that I was aware of at the time was, of course, the SR-71 Blackbird, which is Mach 3 , and then the prototype XB-70 Valkyrie that was built by Rockwell International’s North American Aircraft Division.

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So I combined features from those two aircraft, and I thought, this is a really cool-looking aircraft.

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And I went in, and much to my surprise, they had a couple of engineers from Lockheed Skunk Works there.

And it was an order gentleman with glasses, a receding hairline. And they were actually wearing little white lab coats with the pocket protector and the slide rule and this kind of thing.

And so I opened up my sketchpad, and I turned around, and I slid it across this big, beautiful, mahogany table in this conference room.

And right away, I could see that something was wrong. The gentleman both took on an appearance of being kind of startled, like they were seeing something they weren’t expecting.

And then one of the two gentlemen – the man with the glasses, the receding hairline – you could literally see his face turn red. You could see beads of sweat starting to form on his forehead and his lip. And his hands started to tremble.

And he slams his hand down on the notepad, and he says, “What are these canards, and what are these winglets out on the wings? Those would be torn off at Mach 17 . . .” And he stopped himself right there as he said “Mach 17”.

And I thought, “That’s 12,000 miles an hour [19,300 kph]!”

And they were both upset. And they were upset in a way that, at first, I thought it was because I didn’t do a good job, because the illustration didn’t look credible.

And then I thought, “No, this is something else.” They’re reacting because I’ve hit something. I’ve hit the nail right on the head with this illustration, and they may perceive that what I’ve done here is because of some kind of a leak – some kind of an information leak.

And so the first thing I did was I tried to assure them by saying, “Well, look, I’ll be happy to illustrate whatever you want, but the fact is, I just don’t know what your aircraft looks like because nobody’s told me. They said they can’t tell me. The design is classified. So what I’ve done here is I’ve combined most of the most interesting features from these two aircraft – the two fastest aircraft that I know of – the SR-71 and the XB-70.”

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And so then they kind of calmed down a little bit and relaxed. But at that point, the cat was already out of the bag. They’d said “Mach 17”.

It really pointed out to me that there were some programs that were going on. And, of course, you always assume that there’s something classified going on all the time behind the scenes.

But as far as aircraft design was concerned, it really helped to illustrate that there were things going on – advanced projects – that were really pushing the envelope in terms of material use, high speed, high altitude and propulsion systems that had never been seen before – these supersonic combustion ramjet or scramjet engines.

And so it was an eye-opener. That’s for sure. It let me know that there were other things out there that the general public didn’t know about.

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David: Okay. So what you see there is very interesting. Here’s a guy who’s describing having a direct one-on-one meeting with insiders from Lockheed Martin Skunk Works.

And they told him that canards and winglets on the plane would fall off at Mach 17. So clearly, he had access to the real deal.

Corey, what were your thoughts as you watched this clip?

Corey: It was pretty interesting. I had seen information about these early planes that they were developing, and they were very, extremely aerodynamic.

But when he was talking, for some reason – it popped in my mind – I remember a type of engineered crystal that they were using that they would put on the outside of these craft that . . . You know, like piezoelectric crystals. If you hit them, they’ll give off an electrical charge?

David: Yeah, sure.

Corey: These convert friction heat into electric charges.

David: Oh, that makes sense.

Corey: And then the skin of the plane would have this crystalline material painted over it. And then the heat would be turned into electricity. The electricity would transfer through the skin of the plane into something that would quickly store the electricity. So it would be kind of like a heat sink.

It would be pulling electricity very quickly, and heat couldn’t build up.

David: Well, let me just mention that there are known things called photo cells, which we already have in electronics, where they can sense a light source and actually convert that light to electricity.

So this idea of basically what you’re describing as a thermal couple on the outside of the plane, that’s totally plausible within electronics that that could work. I just never thought of it before. It’s fascinating.

Corey: Right. I’d forgotten about it, too. It just popped in my head when I was watching that clip.

David: So Mach 17, . . . of course, some of the people watching this may not be aware that conventional aeronautics . . . even Mach 4, Mach 5, is considered extraordinary.

What are the speeds that you encountered with some of the craft that are in the classified world that he got a little taste of here?

Corey: Well, yeah, there was a lot of talk of craft that were being developed between Mach 9 and Mach 20 . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that were being developed that were mostly for flying in the atmosphere – test craft to get to a point where they could develop craft that could fly in and out of the atmosphere.

David: So is it normal for somebody like Mark McCandlish to have this background of industrial design – he said that he majored, at first, in drawing automobiles and getting really nice technical illustrations of them, and then in his case, going into the defense industry – that a guy with those skills could end up potentially in some kind of classified program?

Corey: Absolutely. They need people of all skill sets. You’re going to run across a lot of draftsmen, artists, that worked for the government that have a lot of knowledge like he does.

David: Now, another thing that is interesting to me was he mentions Brigham Young University. And Pete, tongue-in-cheek, called that whole area – Utah, Idaho, etc. – “Mormania”. And it was originally a joke, but apparently, on the inside, they now actually use that term – that what I’ve heard from him – and I want to get your thoughts on this – is that many people who worked for the CIA and other intelligence agencies are recruited from Mormon states in America, that there is a Mormon component to the black ops world.

So I’m curious if you ever heard anything about that?

Corey: Yes. I read on the smart glass pad about how different Mormon groups were creating vaults underground and were reporting back to the intelligence agencies that they were encountering beings when they were trying to build their facilities underground.

David: Beings that were not human?

Corey: Correct.

David: When we see a guy like McCandlish coming out and talking about this, what do you think he had to gain from this? In other words, I don’t see any evidence. I don’t think he’s ever written a book.

He kind of went off the radar after Disclosure Project in 2001. Now here it is, 16 years later, he pops up again.

So do you think that there’s any self-interest or manipulation going on here? What’s his objective?

Corey: One of the things you see quite often with whistleblowers is that in the process of being a whistleblower, they end up losing their careers. And he pretty much lost his career within all of the defense industry and basically was in hiding for a while from what I hear.

David: All right. We’re going to now continue with some more footage for you to check out. This is the second part of our groundbreaking interview with Mark McCandlish. Let’s check it out.

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COVERT CRAFT

Mark McCandlish: Well, this is a story that came to me through another aviation artist that . . . One of my contemporaries met this fellow and a friend of his at an air show at the old Chino Air Base where they brought a lot of the aircraft after the Second World War to be demolished and scrapped for their aluminum and so forth.

And he was saying that this fellow had a friend who was a former astronaut – it was one of the Buzz astronauts, Buzz Aldrin or Buzz Carpenter – one of these gentlemen.

And this individual was flying a Learjet, ferrying it from one location to another, and he was passing over North Central Nevada at the time – broken clouds and this kind of thing.

And he comes out of some clouds and into an open air space, and below him and to the left is this black aircraft that looks sort of like a flattened-out football shape.

6 Artist S Drawing Of Black Aircraft

And on the back end of it, it has not only a vertical stabilizer or a tail on the top, but there was another one down below.

A lot of people don’t know that the early A-12 version of the SR-71 Blackbird also had the same feature. It had a folding vertical stabilizer on the ventral surface on the underside of the aircraft.

But this aircraft had an unusual inlet design. It wasn’t the typical thing where you have a big hole hanging down underneath the wing where the air for the engine comes in.

This thing had, what looked like, a pair of these triangular-shaped NACA ducts near the leading edge of this.

There were no wings, no tail feathers – nothing. It was just sort of a lifting body design, like a flattened-out football shape.

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Control surfaces along the leading edges and on the trailing edges, but the inlets were a pair of NACA ducts.

8 NACA Ducts

And then at the back end were a pair of trapezoid-shaped exhaust ports. But then at the midsection, the widest part of this platform, was a ridge. And along the trailing edge of the ridge were what appeared to be a number of fuel injectors pointing outward where it was obvious at some point in the flight regime of the aircraft, there would be something expelled from those ports.

And it was actually operating kind of like the whole back end of the aircraft was a linear aerospike engine, which has that kind of a configuration.

The pilot is there, and he looks at this plane and realizes that if he hadn’t seen it directly that he might have collided with it in the clouds.

And so he gets ahold of the ground control operator for that region, and he says, “Why didn’t you inform me that there was another aircraft in my vicinity?”

And he said, “Well . . . “ The response was, “. . . because there isn’t any. We don’t have anything on radar at all.”

And he says, “Well, the hell there isn’t.” He says, “I’m looking at a plane right now. It’s black. It has the two tails.” He described what he was seeing, “I’m in his 5 o’clock position.”

And there’s a long silence on the radio.

And then all of a sudden, he can see in the window, the cockpit – it’s kind of like the X-15 cockpit where it’s mostly aircraft with just a little tiny window and a splitter in the front. And he sees the face of the pilot look around at him like this, and like, “Oh, crap!”, and banks away and goes into one of the clouds and disappears.

So a little while later, there’s another voice that comes onto the radio – a deeper voice, a more serious voice, and he says, “Okay, pilot zone, so you need to change your heading and come in to Nellis Air Force Base, and we need you to land there and be debriefed. And I want you to roll out and stay at the end of the runway. You will be met at the end of the runway.”

And so then they take him in, and they put him through interrogation and make it real clear that what he saw was something that doesn’t officially exist, and he’s not to talk about it.

But eventually, apparently, he did tell someone, including this colleague of mine who shared the story with me.

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David: The first thing I thought of when he said a ‘squashed football’ was your description of the Dark Fleet craft which you said have a dark teardrop-type of shape.

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Corey: Right.

David: But based on the illustration that McCandlish made here, is that what we’re looking at, or is this something else?

Corey: I knew immediately, the way he was describing the craft with the two fins, the two stabilizers, that it was a test craft from the military. I’ve read before about these vertical stabilizers, that are on the top and bottom, that, at a certain stage in flight, the bottom one drops to give them further stabilization.

David: Well, he had the location right, because he said this witness saw this over Nevada.

Corey: Right.

David: So there you go. That’s your Area 51.

Corey: Right. That’s a good place to see test craft.

I’ve received quite a few emails from pilots, that don’t want to go public because of their jobs, that have described seeing very similar things.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah.

David: One of the insiders that I have had contact with – I met through Pete Peterson – he claims to have been able to build eight different types of anti-gravity device. And he worked on aerospace design.

He has described that a lot of times these planes were built, and then they were mothballed. And he believed that the purpose was money laundering – that the plane was said to cost much more than it really did. It justifies these budgets.

The actual money spent on it might be much less, and then the less of the money goes to some other thing. Have you heard of that, and if so, where’s the money going?

Corey: Yes. A lot of these contracting companies are . . . I mean, everyone’s heard about $200 hammers, $300 toilet seats . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that kind of thing. That occurs all the time to bring in extra money for black budgets. So that’s fairly common.

David: What might some of those black budgets be? I mean, wouldn’t this plane be the goal . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . or would it be something else?

Corey: Something like this probably came from a budget from a craft or something they were building that was known. And then they overcharged for that craft . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . and funneled that money into a craft like this. And a lot of times they’ll build these craft. They’ll put millions of dollars into building a craft like this just to prove a certain concept for future craft that they’ll fly around a few times, and then they mothball them or take them apart.

David: Right. So given the design and the shape of this particular craft, what type of usefulness to you think it might have?

Corey: I think they were trying to increase stabilized flight past Mach 3 to 5, most likely.

David: It doesn’t really look like it would capture air like a wing. Do you think there’s some sort of anti-gravity component to how this works?

Corey: No. This is a conventional jet. It’s just really advanced technology. It’s kind of like what he was talking about – sort of like a ramjet. It brings in the air at the wings and expels the gases and air out the back to propel it.

David: All right. Next, we have another very interesting and strange story from Mark McCandlish, which I’m sure you’re going to like. Let’s check it out.

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SURPRISING TECHNOLOGY

Mark McCandlish: There was a gentleman, and I don’t remember where he was located, but he had a custom of jogging early in the morning with his dog. And one of the challenges that he made for himself was he would jog on this path that would go up to the top of this hill near the town where they had the city water supply. It was a big tower.

And it was a heavily wooded area with a clearing around the tower itself.

And as they’re jogging up the hill, he comes out into the clearing where the tower is, and here is this aircraft. And it looks like a conventional jet aircraft standing on its tail, and it’s orbiting this water tower silently.

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No jet engine noise, no dust being kicked up or anything, and the pilot is just sort of playing.

And he’s just standing there with his mouth hanging open, and his dog is barking and really going crazy.

And while the pilot’s doing this, he kind of looks over his shoulder, and he sees the jogger there. “Oh, no!”

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So he lights up the after burner, and off he goes using conventional power.

So it just pointed out that there must be some other things that they’re incorporating and folding into some of the . . . maybe even the standard issue aircraft that are giving them abilities that are not completely obvious when looking at them from the outside.

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David: This is one of those stories that seems to stretch the credulity a little bit. What is your feeling about the idea that conventional aircraft might have some sort of anti-gravity that would allow them to do those types of tricks?

Corey: Well, it’s definitely not something that would be standard issue on one of the fleets right now out to sea.

David: Right.

Corey: But they have retrofitted conventional-looking craft with anti-gravity for specific reasons to be used, I guess, for special missions. It’s not something that a lot of the different lieutenant commanders out there in the Navy that fly jets . . . they’re not going to have this or know about this type of technology being incorporated into conventional craft. But it is something I’ve heard of. I haven’t seen it with my own eyes.

David: I’ve also had Peterson tell me that military aircraft are all now – or at least many of them – are equipped with a technology that he called ‘masking’. Are you familiar with that and what that’s all about?

Corey: Yeah, masking is a common term. It just means ‘camouflage’. It’s an electronic camouflage.

David: So would a masked craft still be visible once the masking is turned on?

Corey: No. No.

David: Right.

Corey: That’s the whole point of it. It pretty much . . . You’re seeing what’s behind the craft.

David: So what would the usefulness be of a pilot able to back the tail of a plane down and then turn circles around a tower like that?

Corey: That’s not really the point. The point is to be able to loiter and hover to engage targets like a helicopter would and then having the supersonic flight capabilities as well.

It’s one of the reasons also they developed the Harrier.

David: Sure.

Corey: Then you have the vertical takeoff and landing capabilities as well.

David: Now do you think it’s possible, given that he seemed to have been turning circles around a tower, that the anti-gravity, in some way, was able to partially attach to the mass of the tower and use it as a center of balance or a pivot point for him?

Corey: No. Most likely what occurred is . . . They have a lot of this smart flight technology in drones now. And it’s usually a camera that has intelligent computers connected to it.

The camera acts like an eye, focuses on like a tower, and then it will loiter and hover around a certain object.

David: Ah. So this could have all been done automatically. He was just having fun.

Corey: Right.

David: He doesn’t have to do any fancy flying at all.

Corey: Yes. It looked like he took a little time out of a normal test flight to play around a little bit on his own.

David: All right. Now we’re going to see a very interesting section of this interview where McCandlish is describing a UFO sighting that actually led to photographic evidence. Let’s take a look.

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THE CEDARVILLE UFO

Mark McCandlish: It was a fellow that I knew – his name was Arthur Reed – who took this photograph in 1982. He was just exploring northern California by car.

He was driving somewhere about 10 miles north of Cedarville, and he saw a large group of people that had pulled off the road, and they were all sort of looking off to the west.

And so he, just out of curiosity, stopped to see what it was. And off in the distance was this immense, black thing – big, large, V-shaped vehicle.

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And the shape of it was what kind of gave it away as the possible product of Lockheed Skunk Works, because it had the same sort of faceted flat surfaces like a Stealth Fire.

The craft looked an awful lot like a large black V, and in the middle of each of those two wings, or legs, or whatever you want to call them, which were really thick and not aerodynamic in any way, shape or form, but there was a large white sphere.

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And then there was one up in the very front where they kind of came together. And there were seams on the surface of the thing that looked like the different parts of the vehicle could be articulated and folded up into almost a triangular shape.

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There were a series of red lights that went from the nose back towards part of the fuselage where the wings joined together.

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And the thing was in a nose down, bank to the left, and it was hovering in this position about maybe 250 feet off the ground.

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And it was maybe a quarter of a mile to a half a mile off the roadway.

Very large. He said that he thought that this thing was somewhere between 300 and 600 feet on a side. It was that big.

He said that it was making this low, pulsating, humming sound, almost like something you’d see in a science fiction movie, sort of this [whirring sound] kind of sound. But he said it was so powerful, so loud, that you could feel it in your chest – that your chest would kind of vibrate and resonate with the sound.

And the people that were there that had pulled off the road represented kind of like a cross-section of what you’d find in America – the deeply religious people that are crying and on their knees, praying to God to deliver them from this chariot of the devil.

There were other people who were running towards it and waving and saying, “Take me for a ride”. And there were other people there hooting and hollering like they were watching a fireworks show on the 4th of July.

In the photograph, in the foreground, you can see people standing in the bed of their truck, and you’re seeing them all from the back, so you can’t tell exactly what they’re doing. But a lot of them, their arms are like this [up in front of his eyes], like they’re watching it through field glasses.

There are other people just sort of standing around, just taking it all in, watching everything.

But he said that this thing sat there for the better part of a half an hour, and that’s why there were so many people that had pulled off and were watching.

And apparently, there was some kind of a flight control issue with this thing, and it had initiated a bank, and then they couldn’t pull out of this dive, so they just stopped. And it was hovered in this banked, nose-down position.

And so apparently, whoever was working on this thing was not able to repair that particular problem. And so the way they resolved it was this thing continued in its bank. I have to turn my hand the other way to do it right, but imagine that this [his hand is now face up and he’s pointing to his palm] is the upper surface like this.

So the thing flips end over end like this [the top rising up and back], but at the same time, it continues the roll. So it goes like this [it first rolled to the right and then the nose twisted up and back], and it’s pointed up and away from the crowd.

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It starts to climb out slowly, getting louder and louder, and then it gets to about 5,000 feet and [hands slap together] gone just like that, out into space.

But he said he went back about a week later, and he parked his car in the same spot. And he was walking out to see if maybe there was any evidence on the ground that this thing had been there. Maybe something got dropped off of it, or maybe there was crop circle-type evidence – that kind of thing.

This Air Force truck comes rolling up – the dark blue with the yellow stencil on the side – “United States Air Force”. And a couple of military cops tell him he needs to get out of there and leave immediately, or they’re going to arrest him, and they’re going to impound his car. So he leaves.

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David: Well, isn’t it cool to have some really good illustrations – a guy that can back up his story with visuals like this?

Corey: And a photo – an actual photo.

David: Yeah. That’s a very interesting and bizarre-looking craft. Let’s just start by getting your thoughts as to, have you seen anything like that? What do you think its purpose might be? Is it just experimental? Was it actually used in operations, etc.?

Corey: I saw a lot of experimental craft, and a lot of them did say “Lockheed” on them, and they were faceted. And some of them were . . . I don’t know how to . . . You could manipulate or articulate different areas of the craft. So this sounds to me like it might have been one of their test craft, a concept craft.

David: So when you say ‘manipulate’ or ‘articulate’, you mean the craft can move . . .

Corey: Change configurations.

David: Shapeshift, basically.

Corey: Right.

David: What would be the value of something like that?

Corey: Well, if you have three different points that are being used, I guess, as like impulse-type engines – electrogravitic engines – usually, they have them on a type of a gimbal that you can manipulate them, turn them this way, and then pull you in that direction.

So that’s going to be kind of the same concept. And most of these that I read about were remotely controlled – the test craft. They didn’t necessarily have pilots.

David: Well, I’m thinking about the old James Bond movie where he’s got the car, and he drives it into the water, and then things all start shifting. And now that it’s in water, it’s got fins instead of tires.

Corey: Right.

David: Or it becomes a jet, and it flies, and wings come out. Is it possible that the shapeshifting has something to do with where it’s traveling, like if it’s in atmosphere or in space or something like that?

Corey: I would think it mostly has to do with controlling the attitude and pitch and yaw of the plane.

David: Just the actual manipulation.

Corey: Right.

David: Is it normal for people to be able to see one of these, or was this some kind of an accident that took place?

Corey: I think he described what most likely happened very well.

David: Right.

Corey: There was some sort of computer glitch, or they weren’t able to communicate with the craft, and it went into a loiter position. It was most likely programmed to go into a loiter position if there was an issue.

David: Now, earlier in this same episode, he was talking about how craft that are going to travel at Mach 17, that he couldn’t have these canards and winglets on the craft because they would get torn off.

The thing that strikes me is, you’re talking about a craft that has moving parts – a craft that has all these facets on it. It’s got an unusual shape.

Wouldn’t that type of a structure stress out under very high velocity and not be a good choice for a high speed aircraft?

Corey: No. Most . . . A lot of them are faceted – the craft that are supersonic.

David: Okay.

Corey: That’s actually a part of the design. It’s not only for deflecting radar, but they design them to be highly aerodynamic.

And I didn’t see anything that would cause a whole lot of drag on that craft.

David: But the joints . . . In order to have the joints be strong enough that things could move and then hold up under that velocity . . .

Corey: Most likely it moves into a different configuration.

David: Oh, for high speed?

Corey: For high speed. Right.

David: That, I can understand. So maybe the two Y-like sides of it would pull together.

Corey: Come together. Right. Right.

David: You mentioned before that the ICC – the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate – within the greater space program you were part of, was manufacturing and selling technology to over 900 extraterrestrial groups – 900 being the ones they were in regular contact with.

Would the ICC be testing anything on Earth, or would this be some other group besides them?

Corey: Well, the ICC controls a lot of these military-industrial-complex-type firms that contract this stuff. So they’re going to be overseeing it anyway and pulling in technology that they see that can be incorporated into higher technology craft.

There’s most likely an Area 51-type of Lockheed-Martin joint effort.

David: How might you use a craft like this? What would be it’s purpose? Is it an attack weapon?

Corey: Yeah. It probably has different weapons-platform packages you can put on it for reconnaissance and also weapons platform to make it a weapons platform. But most likely, that was a concept for another craft that . . . They’ll build three or four different concept craft to finally come up with one final version.

So that could have just been part of a process of creating another craft.

David: Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m here with Corey Goode, and we are watching the very surprising testimony of one of the original Disclosure Project 39 whistleblowers, none other than Mark McCandlish. We’ll see you next time.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: VIEWER QUESTIONS PART 7

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode, our insider’s insider. How are you doing, Corey?

Corey Goode: Doing well, thank you.

David: Welcome back to the show. All right, first question is from Schmitz_K, and it is as follows:

“Love the viewer questions. I also have a question of my own. Do the SSP vessels produce gravity or are they a zero G environment? And is gravity severely reduced in the LOC?”

Was there gravity when you were on the ship?

Corey: Yes. They have plates on the floor that create a gravitational field, but also within the bubble of the torsion field, it creates an environment to where they can control the gravity better for some reason.

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Now, the lower level SSPs, they don’t have all of the artificial gravity. So you’ll see the monkey bars on the ceiling that you use, you know, for getting around.

David: Oh. If we go back to the German Bell craft, did they have zero G environment when they were flying in those?

Corey: Yes.

David: They did?

Corey: Yeah.

David: The second half of the question was about the LOC. Is there severely reduced gravity in the LOC? I guess they’re thinking about the Moon’s gravity being less than ours and how the astronauts supposedly bouncing around.

Corey: Right. On the LOC, there was one G of gravity.

David: Oh.

Corey: Now, there are some of the other surface bases that they have that we haven’t talked about so much where there is no gravity.

David: Oh, no gravity?

Corey: No gravity, except for, well, the Moon’s natural gravity.

David: Right, okay.

Corey: Right.

David: Okay. We have a question from Marcus O., and it is:

“I would like to hear Corey going into more about the work he’s done on himself, also more on his high vibratory diet and what work exactly we could be doing on ourselves. I understand that he doesn’t want to come across as a leader, and that we shouldn’t be ‘following him’, but some of us would like advice and extra information.

“For people who are trying, i.e. with diet and meditation, what would be some good suggestions for both? It would be nice to hear more about the work we should be doing for this conscious renaissance.”

Corey: Well, there is a component to this situation that I’m having my vibratory state augmented just by being in the presence of some of these higher vibratory beings.

David: [David shakes his head in agreement.]

Corey: And I’m getting personal one-on-one advice from them, and it’s very uncomfortable advice. About 80% of my communications with them involve them shining lights where I’ve refused to shine lights.

David: So for somebody who isn’t having beings show up in the room with them and giving them a higher vibration just by being in their presence, what are some of the practical steps of people actually achieving that forgiveness?

Corey: Less looking out here for solutions and a lot of introspection. We all have the traumas in life that we think we’ve put behind us. We don’t have to deal with them anymore.

Well, it’s time that we start, you know, digging them up, holding them up to the light, and, you know, doing the hard work. This has been very difficult.

A lot of people are like, you know, “You’re getting this one-on-one contact. How luck are you.”

It’s very, very difficult. It’s demoralizing at times.

My ego has been so, I guess, massaged in – not in a way to make it bigger but to make me more humble.

Anytime you begin to think highly of yourself, they come, “Wait a minute. Look at this, this and this.”

And you know, it puts you back in your place and puts you back on the path.

David: So the question also revolved around dietary issues, and there’s another one that we have in here, I think, that is going to cover that as well.

So he was specifically saying he’s already trying to do a healthy diet, but what are some of the suggestions that might be of assistance?

Corey: Well, that is definitely a process as well. One of the things I was being told, especially by Tear-Eir, was that I was not practicing what I was preaching.

I was talking about high vibration diets, going home and eating corn dogs and all these nitrates, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . and it was wreaking havoc on my body. I mean, you can see from the first season, you know, how unhealthy I looked.

David: It’s amazing, the transformation of how much you’ve changed. And it really did seem like once you had that contact with Ka’Aree, and you touched her hands, and then you had this mind-meld that something really triggered in you at that point.

Corey: You know, it’s a difficult path. Each person’s path is different.

I mean, you have to deal with your old traumas. You have to deal with your current behavior that is destructive.

If you don’t do that, no matter how spiritually advanced you think you are, you’re just deluding yourself.

You have to work and take care of all these little earthly issues that are acting like a parachute to hold you back.

David: So since the question also related to diet, I want to bring up the subject of the weapons system, something that several insiders have talked to me about, the idea that the Cabal itself actually has put in certain ingredients in food that is intended to reduce lifespan, decrease happiness, increase weight, all this kind of stuff.

So are you personally aware of the idea that the food system that we have is being weaponized in certain ways?

Corey: Yeah, our entire environment has been weaponized against us. That’s why we’ve got to mitigate all of those weapons as much as we can.

And in my case, I ended up moving to a vegetarian diet. I was pretty much forced to by getting food poisoning.

David: Right.

Corey: So I was real slow to start practicing what I was preaching.

David: Okay, so the next question is from Sedona Visionary, and it says:

“Corey has mentioned more than once that he uses a technique for releasing negative entities from his energy field. I would really like to know the how-tos. I know he said he does it using the name of Jesus Christ, but there must be a little more to it than that that would be helpful for people watching this show to use.”

Corey: Once I realized that I did have entity attachments, I went back, of course, to my background and how I was raised, and I called on the name of Jesus and it worked. They just fled the scene of the crime.

David: Right.

Corey: Later on, I was reinfected with entities by Mara, one of the Inner Earth people that had visited me without my permission.

David: The negative being, in this case.

Corey: Right. In that case, Ka’Aree removed them with some sort of tone from a crystal, and they fled exactly in the same way.

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I guess the power that I assigned to the name of Jesus gave it some sort of a vibrational strength with my will and my belief that the name of Jesus would clear me.

So I say that because the tone, the vibration of that crystal, was what drove them out of me the second time.

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So there has to be other methods of doing it, of course. I’m not going to say you have to go to the Inner Earth and have a crystal waved above you or call in the name of Jesus.

People can do it on their own, but it’s very difficult. A lot of times, these entities will act like they’ve left, you know, “I’m leaving”, you know, do the little walking noise and then sneak right back around and come in.

The best thing you can do is just make your body of a vibratory nature that it’s very difficult for these beings to coexist with you.

David: We have one from Merwitch Mama. Ha, ha.

“Why are we still calling Gonzales, ‘Gonzales’? If he’s already been compromised and no longer even on Earth, why can’t we know who he really is? It would go a long way toward getting more people on board with this.”

Corey: He has family here that I wouldn’t want to put in danger. I’ve already outed him, and it caused a lot of problems with the Alliance, the SSP Alliance. Half of the command and control structure will not show their heads, you know, for command and control purposes.

David: Right.

Corey: So I’m not going to do anything to cause any more damage.

David: I totally agree. Wanderer 1027:

“I am confused as to why the Alliance is more concerned about the Cabal exposing the dirt that the Cabal has on them than they are about giving humanity Full Disclosure. Should we care what individual factions of the Alliance have done more than our own ascension?

“Also, why, Corey, are you concerned about the social effects of Full Disclosure? Society’s already broken. We experience a dark night of the soul for a reason, don’t we?”

So, I guess the first question is, “Why is the Alliance more concerned about the Cabal exposing the dirt on them than Full Disclosure?”

Corey: Well, because they will be standing next to them in tribunals. They were carrying out orders that were given to them for a long time. And in the process, many crimes against humanity were committed.

David: Stuff that would be so extremely compromising that people wouldn’t feel very forgiving?

Corey: Absolutely not.

David: So regarding this idea that the social effects of Full Disclosure, the question seems to be confronting you as if you are concerned about Full Disclosure breaking down society, and they’re saying society is already broken. This is just going to give us a useful dark night of the soul if we get Full Disclosure.

Corey: People have all these ideas about what disclosure is going to be if there’s a Full Disclosure event. And it is going to be more than a dark night of the souls. Many people are going to die in the process. It’s going to be chaos.

It’s not going to be people holding hands singing “Kumbaya”. It’s going to be . . . We are demanding one of the most difficult times in our life. We’re demanding we need this disclosure, but we don’t fully understand how difficult it’s going to be.

I mean, there are countries that have been victimized by the Cabal are going to find out a bunch of information. They’re going to want to go to war with Cabal countries.

It’s going to be a mess. It’s not just going to be people that won’t get out of bed and eat because their religion has been basically proven as wrong.

David: Right.

Corey: It’s far more reaching than that.

David: So it would seem, then, that even a Full Disclosure, the most ethical way to do it would be in a series of stages where there’s some acclimation along the way.

Corey: That’s what the negotiations have been all about. The Alliance, the Earth Alliance, they believe that it’s irresponsible to just drop it all on the people. They think it should be, you know, put out in a slow way.

But in that case, if you don’t put it all out at once, then you’re always going to have somebody that’s wanting to hold back little bits and pieces.

So I’m for Full Disclosure, but what I’m saying is, everyone out there, be careful what you wish for because it’s going to be a lot more difficult even for those in the UFO community than what we think.

David: Well, if you think about, Corey, our own creative process when we were developing “Cosmic Disclosure” with the folks here at Gaia, we were looking at a lot of information that you could tell us about Draco and things like that that were VERY disturbing things.

And we did structure the show so that that kind of stuff came in later episodes after we’d had multiple episodes to try to front load the positive at the beginning.

So do you think there’s a way that this could happen with Full Disclosure or are you saying it’s like a data dump and it just all kind of comes blasting out?

Corey: That’s what Full Disclosure is, is a complete dump of everything.

David: Right.

Corey: And everything . . . I mean, there’s going to be a lot of disturbing information.

David: We have another question now from Akhaishimray, and it says, and we’ve heard this one before:

“Are you not allowed to film your interaction with the Blue Avians or Mica or even just a view aboard one of the spheres? And if so, why? A 360-degree camera would be ideal since that’s difficult to fake.

“Why must disclosure only come from a CNN camera?”

Corey: I’m not allowed to bring any technology with me. I’m screened for AI every time I go up. You cannot bring technology with you.

So there’s no way I can bring a camera with me and stick it in Tear-Eir’s face when he’s trying to communicate to me.

David: So you’re saying that any technology from Earth could potentially have this AI in it . . .

Corey: Uh-huh.

David: . . . just as the . . . because you also mentioned it can exist as an electromagnetic source.

Corey: Right. Right. It’s just security protocol.

David: Right. Is there also some reason, in terms of the Blue Avians and what they’re wanting to be disclosure, that they don’t want too much proof too quickly so that free will is preserved?

Corey: The way they see it, all the proof, that’s all up to us and the process. The only thing they’re concerned with is raising the vibration of humanity and raising our consciousness.

The way they see it, if they raise our consciousness, everything else will just fall into place.

David: Sure. Just because this is something that’s come up a lot in the discussion forum, people have often said, “Why can’t he put some kind of camera in his living room so that if a sphere shows up, he can catch it on film as it’s happening, and then that’ll be the big event that finally proves that he’s telling the truth?”

Corey: Well, the one time that I did put a camera up in my room, the meeting did not occur that night.

David: Really?

Corey: Right.

David: What do you think is the reason for why the beings don’t want a definitive smoking gun of proof given to us at this point?

Corey: Everyone has to go through their own process, their own spiritual process in raising their vibration and going towards disclosure.

People say that, “Oh, I’m spiritually advanced. I will not worship beings if they appear.”

But that is not the history that these beings have seen with us.

We are programmed to worship something higher, and a being comes in, we’ll be, “Oh, this is an angel”, and try to apply it to whatever personal religion we have built up in our heads, and then start praying to them, which they already have a problem with.

David: Right. This is a subject we could talk about for a long time, but we are trying to get through a bunch of questions here.

We have one from Jenaceae:

“Okay, so are the Pre-Adamites then what we are calling the Annunaki or are they the step-link between the Annunaki and the elite Cabal sun god worshipers?

“All the sun god people the Cabal worship have elongated heads, right?”

Corey: Well, the Pre-Adamites are basically fallen angels. 55,000 to 60,000 years ago, they pretty much crash landed here after a series of misfortunes.

They are not allies with the Draco, by any means. They’ve had agreements with them, but they kept the Reptilians in check in the past.

And it was after this last deluge or global catastrophe that caused Antarctica to shift its place on the globe and then be covered in ice that they lost all access to their technology and were then unable to keep the Reptilians at bay as they had done in the past.

So it’s really hard. Annunaki is a term that can mean, you know, “from the heavens”, or it’s kind of a blanket term.

David: Right.

Corey: So the Reptilians are often referred to as Annunaki and so are these Pre-Adamites.

David: Okay. We have John 1111:

“Hi, Corey and David. I am a wanderer, and as a result, a friendly, nonviolent person. But I was wondering if I would incur some sort of karmic debt by wanting to destroy Reptilians? Is there anything wrong with wanting to kill the bad guys or should we just let them be?”

Corey: We have to go . . . and this is going to sound really bizarre, but we have to get to a point in our journey – and it’ll probably be well after disclosure – to where we’re going to have to forgive those beings, or it’s going to hold us back spiritually and karmically.

We’re going to actually have to forgive the beings that have been torturing and murdering and enslaving us for millennia.

David: It would appear, if you look at the history of Atlantis, that seemingly benevolent beings, these Elohim, did decide for Atlantis to be destroyed and that a lot of those lives were lost. So it would appear that maybe on a level bigger than individual human free will that nature itself sometimes does things that resolve some of these issues or dramatically reduce the population of a negative civilization.

Corey: Right. These negative beings, they’re being neutralized and taken care of right now, not only by higher density beings but by the universe itself, by the cycle that our galaxy is going through.

We still have to fight this battle against them. We have to fight for sovereignty, but after we win the battle, then we have to move to a point where we can forgive them, which is . . . I’m not at that point.

David: I also have often looked at what the Cabal is doing, where they think population on Earth is the enemy and population must be attacked.

And my response to that is, if nature sees something out of balance, nature will take care of it. It’s not necessarily our right, or our privilege, if they want to think of it in such a dark way as that, to try to do these things when nature will take care of itself. It has cycles of replenishing and cleansing.

If there is to be a problem, it’s not our job to go out there and try to do this.

Corey: Right. And sociopaths are the ones that usually rise to power in these organizations.

David: There you go. So now we have another one. This is from ARW 575:

“If we are all one, then I presume we are one with the Reptilians and all other entities. How can we evolve if we race around the galaxy battling with other entities? Are we not then just warring with ourselves? It gets confusing.”

Corey: You have mass consciousness. You have the mass consciousness of humanity, and I’ve described, when I was shown this mass consciousness being, that it was a traumatized schizophrenic basically.

David: Yeah.

Corey: There is some sort of a battle, but also a process that the Reptilians are growing and learning from these experiences just like we are. It’s a hierarchical situation.

At the very tip-top, we are all one.

David: Well, what would you say also about the idea in The Law of One where they explain that we live in the illusion, and that the illusion is staged for the benefit of the development of consciousness?

Corey: It’s all about consciousness, the development of consciousness. That’s all they care about, these higher density beings. That’s really the . . . Everyone is like, you know, what is the reason for life?What is the purpose for life?

It’s all about the continual development of consciousness, not only on an individual basis but as a mass consciousness being that we’re a part of.

David: Okay, now we have Selene 2:

“What, if anything, does CERN have to do with manipulating the Earth’s magnetic field? Anything you can offer there would be useful. Many things for your wonderful disclosures.”

Corey: From what I understand, CERN is one of these multipurpose-type technologies. There are different groups of scientists going in, trying to achieve different goals.

They’re using it as some sort of a . . . They’re trying to interact with the Earth’s magnetic field. They’re using it trying to create portals. They’re using it to also develop torsion field technologies.

It is a laboratory that has multiple purposes. It’s not just there to create a wormhole. It’s not just there to interact with the ley lines. It is a multipurpose technology.

David: I’ll just throw in here that in talking with Henry Deacon, he actually worked on CERN for a while as a job. And he said that it is so difficult to actually get the particles to hit each other that it requires people who are intuitive.

And he was one of the people who was psychic enough to be able to intuitively work the controls so that you’d actually get particle collisions.

I’m wondering if that lines up with anything you heard?

Corey: It doesn’t line up with what I’ve heard, but it makes total sense.

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David: Right. Next, we have DJ Miss Mixit:

“Corey, could you please ask some of the beings from higher vibrations the best, most efficient tools for clearing the pineal gland.

“Is there a Hertz frequency I can make? Is meditation enough for me to simply imagine it being cleared?”

Corey: Meditation and diet are the way to go. You want to make sure that you can remove the calcification in your pineal gland, but also you want the pineal gland interacting with your higher self in a conducive way.

So you need to have yourself on the right vibratory level through meditation.

David: I would also just point out, one of the things Peterson said is that the halides, which would be like chlorine, fluoride, etc., pass through the blood brain barrier and attach to the little crystals in your pineal gland, and that’s one of the main things that causes calcification.

Corey: That’s true.

David: So have the beings told you to avoid tap water and things like this?

Corey: Yes, I only drink spring water at home.

David: Okay.

Corey: Right.

David: Next, we have one from Inscizor:

“My questions are about densities. What density would Jesus or the Buddha have been considered to have moved into after being here?

“How about the in-between live state before one is to reincarnate? How does that fit in with the idea of densities of consciousness?”

“Is heaven considered to be the next, say the fourth or higher, level of consciousness, or is it something entirely different?”

Corey: The way densities have been explained to me is it’s all about consciousness. It’s different vibratory states of consciousness.

And once you reach a certain vibratory state of consciousness, as we’ve stated, you can control matter with consciousness.

So you begin to change your environment as you go up the octaves consciously.

David: Okay. We have L. Mensah 732:

“Can mass consciousness toward a specific goal via the Internet be as effective as being physically together in one place?

“For instance, I guess this is Heather Sartain’s episode, she mentioned people being on one continent and how that would affect Earth’s rotation.”

So I think what they’re looking at here is could we do, like a mass meditation and reduce terrorism without everybody having to be in the same room like they were in the original transcendental meditation studies?

Corey: Yes, that definitely does work. You don’t have to be in proximity with other people. But when you get a lot of people that are . . . they have practiced disciplines to where they can meditate deeply, you get a lot of those people in proximity, there is a power to it, for sure.

David: I agree. So here’s another one from Sassafrass 7:

“Good stuff. I have so many more questions. How do the Reptilians reproduce? Do they have a gestation period and then are born similar to mammals on Earth?

“But if they are fourth-dimensional beings, do they need to be born at all or do they just create their bodies with thought? I understand they do eat. Unfortunately, they enjoy eating people.

“I thought a fourth-dimensional being would not need to eat. Does this mean they are doing this only for sport or something like that?”

Corey: Yeah, well, this all goes back to our different belief systems on what dimensions, densities are. A lot of people think that a fourth-density being could be standing right next to us, and we wouldn’t see them. We’d be passing through each other. You know, we couldn’t hold hands with them.

That’s not at all the case. It’s just they have a different consciousness vibration.

What I’d normally say is, what do you consider a dog or a bacteria? You know, second, first-density life, you can interact with them, no problem.

David: Right. Sure. As far as the Reptilian breeding cycle and birthing cycle, is there a sexual reproduction that leads to a pregnancy and a birth?

Corey: Exactly. Yes. And they also use cloning.

David: Okay. Lastly, we have 23 Window:

“I wanted to put something forward. The name ‘wanderers’ and ‘starseeds’ alone come with a positive connotation, but now, I’m hearing that the Cabal or MILABs identify these kids early along, take them, and fractionalize their brains into doing work for the Cabal.

“Weren’t these people sent here in the first place to do good for humanity? Yet, the Draco has infiltrated the Cabal and figured out how to brainwash them and control them for their own purposes.”

Corey: Yeah, they basically hijacked their mission. That’s the whole point. They hijack their mission. They come here with certain abilities, and then they exploit those abilities.

And in doing so, they’re co-opting the enemy the way they see it. They’re causing . . . These starseed beings are coming here to effect positive change on the planet.

The Reptilians, for instance, do not want positive change on the planet, so they’re corrupting these “soldiers” to fight for them.

David: Well, this obviously is not an airtight system in which all people who are wanderers are being completely compromised.

So could you speak to that a little bit, in terms of how would someone navigate this successfully if they are an ET soul and still be able to do what they’re supposed to be doing on the planet?

Corey: Well, stay away from any government organization that tells you you’re special. Ha. That’s number one.

And practice humility, concentrate on your own personal journey, and meditating on what your mission is. And once you’ve been awakened to your mission, go for it.

If you do that, then you’re going to effect positive change and combat the groups that are co-opting the starseeds.

David: That’s all the time we have for in this episode. I’m your host, David Wilcock here with Corey Goode. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” on Gaia. And we thank you for watching.

Antarctic Ice Shelf Destabilized as Race for Ancient Alien Artifacts & New Weapons Heats Up

Source: Exopolitics

By Dr Michael Salla and Corey Goode

A multinational effort to excavate key regions of Antarctica in search of artifacts from a flash frozen alien civilization created by refugees is destabilizing the continent’s massive ice shelves, according to secret space program whistleblower Corey Goode. He furthermore reveals that secret military bases in Antarctica are using some of the artifacts for weapons development in violation of the 1959 Antarctic Treaty, which stipulates that the continent’s resources will be only used for scientific purposes.

This article is the third in a series [click for Part One and Part Two]. Corey’s written contribution to this final installment has led to it being our first collaborative writing venture. To identify who is writing for the reader, I [Michael Salla] will take the role of the narrator and distinguish when Corey is directly contributing in his own words, as opposed to me paraphrasing his briefing material.

Disclosure of the Antarctica ruins is still imminent, Corey reports, as a number of key variables impact on when and how much is to be revealed to the world about the discoveries while maintaining secrecy about the ongoing military programs to weaponize alien artifacts.

In a detailed briefing given to me on March 16, 2017, Corey shared additional details about the “Pre-Adamite” civilization supplementing the data he previously put out. This new information was originally slated for release in an article, “Endgame III”, as the sequel to the popular Endgame II article and video which focused on secret Antarctica excavations.

Corey said earlier that the extraterrestrial civilization, identified by him as Pre-Adamites, first arrived 55,000 to 60,000 years ago and established outposts all over Antarctica which notably has a land mass almost twice the size of the contiguous United States. He described them as standing approximately 12-14 feet in height and possessing elongated skulls.

Corey also described how they created a hybrid species, Homo Capensis according to anthropological classification, which became ruling elites, or demigods, in ancient South American, Asian and European societies.

In the March 16 briefing, Corey began by explaining that the Pre-Adamites had established their main base right over “Ancient Builder Race” technology, which included a “stargate” or “wormhole” device very similar to that depicted in the popular Science Fiction show, Stargate SG-1.

Corey said that this show was an example of a soft disclosure in which the U.S. Air Force took the lead in revealing key elements of the technologies developed by the Ancient Builder Race, who had established a travel grid throughout the galaxy using traversable wormholes hundreds of millions, if not billions, of years ago.

When the Pre-Adamites first arrived in Antarctica, they quickly asserted control through their advanced technologies over this area populated by human settlements at the time.

With their advanced medical technologies, the Pre-Adamites then began many genetic experiments, and created hybrids that became a servant class. Corey previously released his description of the flash frozen bodies of the bioengineered hybrids (Homo Capensis) during his latest visit to Antarctica in early January of this year.

Corey explained that the Pre-Adamite programs interrupted 22 genetic experiments being run by human-looking extraterrestrials first established 500 thousand years ago. In a prior report, Corey elaborated that a “Super Federation” comprising 40-60 of these races had established competing genetic engineering programs with surface humanity.

Corey also described how the Pre-Adamites engaged in conflict with the human-looking ETs running their 22 genetic experiments, as well as Reptilians doing likewise, for global influence.

Given that the Pre-Adamites had established a physical presence on Earth, this gave them an advantage in establishing ruling bloodlines over the Americas, Asia and Europe, as explained in a previous article.

At the same time, humans who had escaped into the Earth’s interior to avoid multiple surface catastrophes monitored how the different extraterrestrial races competed against each other for influence and power over surface humanity who was still recovering from global catastrophes.

One of the Inner Earth races that pride themselves on their pure human bloodlines, the Anshar, had a historic connection to the human settlements in Antarctica. However, the Anshar did not cooperate with the Pre-Adamites because they considered them to be sociopaths in terms of their treatment of the native Antarctica population and other regions of surface humanity where they had established colonies.

Corey said that the Pre-Adamites treated humans in antiquity in a similar manner to how modern humans treat dogs in terms of cross-breeding for multiple purposes. The Pre-Adamites, along with the Reptilians, were a big problem for all humanity.

The Anshar were part of a confederation of worlds that sought to make things better on the planet by providing knowledge and technological assistance as described in Sumerian cuneiform texts.

In a previous article, I discussed how the Anunnaki (as described by Zecharia Sitchin in his Earth Chronicles series) involved the Anshar and other off world groups, according to Corey’s sources. To help clarify this point, Corey adds:

Anunnaki was a generic term that meant ET or those that come from heaven. This definition will upset some people, so be aware… The Reptilians, the Nordics, The Ebens and the Anshar were interacting with the ancient Sumerians to assist them in the recovery of their civilization after the great catastrophe that destroyed Atlantis. The Anunnaki were indeed the Reptilians, but the other groups that interacted with them were also referred to by this same name (according to my info in the programs).

Corey said that a small number of Pre-Adamites survived the catastrophe that flash froze Antarctic regions by going inside stasis chambers located in the largest of their three motherships. These ships are miles long, and not 30 miles long as reported earlier.

The additional information released by Corey suggests there are many risks in waking up the Pre-Adamites who would likely attempt to reassert their authority by utilizing their advanced technologies, including the little understood “Builder race technology”. Here, Corey adds:

The groups in charge of these excavated locations are taking precautions, i.e. Mini-Nukes with “deadman’s Triggers”, in case these beings become hostile (for reference, see the movie Prometheus).

This leads us directly to the secret excavations currently underway of the Pre-Adamites’ bases and ships.

Secret Antarctica Excavations

Corey disclosed that excavations are occurring in multiple places in Antarctica by different nations, which in some cases are in direct competition to get the most advanced technologies. The goal is to eventually disclose some of these, but many technologies, especially those that are clearly extraterrestrial in origin will be not be released, at least to begin with.

Corey said that all the nations involved in the Antarctica excavations are capable of making a disclosure announcement on their own, but they are all participating in negotiations to do so in a coordinated manner.

Corey thinks the Antarctica disclosures will begin in tandem with prosecutions of the elites involved in pedophilia, human trafficking and other crimes, which includes the blackmailing of leading politicians, academics, industrialists and military officials. He says that the recent Trump administration action to sack 46 District Attorneys was due to their inaction in moving forward with such prosecutions.

Alternatively, the Russians, the Chinese, or smaller nations could begin the Antarctica announcements, if negotiations drag out and the U.S. fails to move forward. The former nations are part of what Corey describes as the Earth Alliance. This group has rapidly grown in prominence with economic power mounting in Asia as global Cabal/Illuminati’s power centers in Europe and North America continue to gradually wane.

This is best illustrated by a battle that took place over Antarctica skies in early 2016. It began when Teardrop-shaped ships came out of the sea in the Ross Ice Shelf area and sought to escape into deep space. These ships flew out of bases belonging to a corporate run space program called the “Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate”.

The ships in turn belonged to the Cabal/Illuminati, who are allied to another program called the “Dark Fleet”. They were filled with global elites seeking to escape anticipated global chaos caused by upcoming Solar events.

Dozens of delta-shaped craft suddenly appeared as the Cabal/Illuminati’s Dark Fleet vessels reached the upper atmosphere. The teardrop-shaped ships were badly damaged in the battle and had to turn back and return to their Antarctic bases. Corey said the delta-shaped craft inflicted far more damage than thought possible by such small craft.

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US Air Force Officials Investigate Claims of Secret Navy Space Program

Source: Exopolitics

Officials from a highly classified U.S. Air Force space program that operates a space surveillance system around the Earth, are seriously investigating whistleblower claims, especially those stating that the U.S. Navy has secretly developed a parallel space program with kilometers-long craft belonging to eight battle groups capable of deep space operations.

According to secret space program whistleblower, Corey Goode, a senior official from the Air Force program who he calls “Sigmund”, has been conducting “information exchanges” with Goode to learn about the alleged Navy space program and rumors of it cooperating with Nordic and other extraterrestrial groups,

Previously, Goode reported that he first encountered Sigmund in a series of military abductions that began in January 2016, when a triangular shaped antigravity spacecraft landed near his Texas home, and two Air Force personnel from the vehicle forcibly took him into the craft. Goode was subsequently interrogated and chemicals were injected into him to force him to reveal the source of his information.

After publicly emerging in March 2015, Goode’s claims had come to the attention of a highly classified Air Force Space Program, which closely cooperates with other U.S. military entities such as the National Reconnaissance Office, the National Security Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency. Goode calls this interagency collaboration the Military Industrial Complex Secret Space Program (MIC SSP).

The MIC SSP is entirely separate to a more advanced Navy Space Program known as “Solar Warden”, which Goode says he served in during a “twenty year and back” tour of duty from 1987 to 2007. In previous reports, Goode has discussed at length the activities of Solar Warden and its interactions with visiting extraterrestrial civilizations.

During the initial abductions, Sigmund was trying to ascertain the source of Goode’s information which had revealed highly classified information about the MIC SSP. In earlier reports, Goode also described how Sigmund and his subordinates chemically forced Goode to out several operatives working for the Solar Warden program.

 

The nature of Sigmund’s interrogations of Goode began to significantly change when Sigmund determined that Goode’s information was, at least in part, accurate, and that he was not part of a disinformation program belonging to a rogue element of the MIC SSP.

Sigmund subsequently began an “information exchange” with Goode that first occurred in “meetings” during the latter part of 2016. Goode was given information about Antarctica and the intense power struggle within the U.S. national security system involving the 2016 Presidential election. Goode wrote a report about one of these information exchanges that was published on December 11, 2016.

On March 16, Goode gave me a detailed four hour briefing about his ongoing meetings with Sigmund and/or his two subordinates from the MIC SSP, which occur on a regular basis to the present day. The information provided by Goode was originally going to be released in “Endgame 3”, and was passed on to me in order to get the information out.

The scope of the information revealed by Goode is breathtaking in its national security implications for the U.S. and the rest of the planet. Consequently, this summary will be the first in a series of articles describing the information Goode has acquired through his “information exchanges” with Sigmund and/or his subordinates, and the latest activities participated in by Goode.

The overall context for the “information exchanges”, according to Goode….

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COSMIC DISCLOSURE: TRACING THE ROOTS OF THE SSP WITH MICHAEL SALLA

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode and our special guest Dr. Michael Salla from Exopolitics Institute.

So Michael, welcome to the show.

Dr. Michael Salla: Thanks for having me on the show, David.

David: Thanks. And Corey, good to have you back, buddy.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: I was talking with you about another book that you wrote, “Kennedy’s Last Stand”, and so I’d like to open with that for this episode.

Michael: Well, the book really goes into what Kennedy knew about this whole topic. And the thing that . . .

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David: What whole topic?

Michael: The topic of UFOs, flying saucers.

David: Oh.

 Michael Salla

Michael: Kennedy was very interested in that, and so the book looks at his history of trying to find out about it. But one of the things that I did in that book was, I was able to find out that, early in his career, Kennedy was actually a protege of James Forrestal, who at the time was the Secretary of the Navy.

Corey: The Navy, yeah.

Michael: And so Forrestal took Kennedy . . . This was before Kennedy became a congressman or even entered politics. And Forrestal, at the time, wanted to recruit Kennedy to his personal staff.

So Forrestal took Kennedy on a fact-finding trip to Germany in July and August of 1945. So this is after the war.

You had the Navy there, the Army there, basically pouring over everything that the Nazis were developing in terms of secret technologies and trying to find out what it was that they were going to bring back under Operation Paperclip – scientists and technologies.

So Forrestal . . .

David: So even though they fled to Antarctica, it wasn’t like they got everything out.

Michael: Exactly, yeah. The Germans still had a lot of really advanced stuff down there. Certainly, as far as the Air Force and the Navy were concerned, the stuff that the Germans were working on in occupied Europe was just way ahead of anything they had.

So the Navy was there trying to work out what it was that they should ship back to the U.S. to work on in their top secret laboratories.

David: Let me ask you this. Did the U.S. have captured German soldiers and scientists who were telling them what was there? Or were they just going into an abandoned building and then trying to poke around and look for things?

Michael: Oh, they had both. They had a lot of scientists, engineers, that were trying to cut a deal, trying to get a favorable place to live, or maybe even get repatriated to whatever country they were originally from, or even to the U.S., . . .

David: Right.

Michael: . . . people that had documents that wanted to cut a deal. People knew where the secret laboratories were.

So you had all of this happening, and so the Navy and the Army had their top intelligence teams in there trying to sift out exactly what was available.

David: All right. Sorry to interrupt, but I think this is really important, too.

In case people are younger, they don’t understand this, Kennedy is not just an ordinary family. We have a background on the Kennedys in which Joseph Kennedy, the father of all the Kennedy brothers, was well-known as a bootlegger, and had made a significant fortune.

Michael: Well, yeah. He was a very successful businessman. I mean, he did a number of things, and bootlegging during prohibition was one of the things.

David: Right.

Michael: But he’s probably best known for being the ambassador for the U.S. to England just before the Second World War.

David: Okay.

Michael: And he was also, along with James Forrestal, the . . . he became the first, I think, it’s the President of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

David: Oh, really?

Michael: So this was . . . So he was really at the apex of the financial system in the U.S. at the time.

David: Right, because the SEC is what’s regulating the whole stocks and commodities markets, and all that.

Corey: Yeah. And the tie-in to Forrestal is obvious. Forrestal pops up in ufology everywhere.

David: MJ-12, right?

Michael: Right, yeah. He was on the MJ-12 committee. And Forrestal, he was the guy that worked for a major financial company Dillon and Read. And so he was picked by the Navy, by Roosevelt, to actually help the Navy prepare for the war, because he had the expertise, the knowledge of major scale industrial manufacturing, and the Navy needed to really change in order to deal with the pressure of fighting two wars.

Corey: There are some interesting tie-ins between Forrestal and William Tompkins, are there not?

Michael: Very important. According to William Tompkins, Forrestal was the guy that picked the admiral that would run the top secret Navy program that was going to be trying to get as much information as they could on what the Nazis were doing, in terms of secret space technologies.

And Forrestal was also the guy that somehow was influenced by Nordics to pick Rico Botta to actually play this role.

So Forrestal was in communication with these Nordic extraterrestrials. And that’s a part of what I discuss in the new book, “The U.S. Navy’s Secret Space Program”, the way in which Nordics extraterrestrials were helping the U.S. Navy, right across the spectrum in terms of – from the very beginning to the very end – in the Navy’s developing a secret space program.

David: Do you think that at the time that Forrestal is bringing Kennedy over to this very recently defeated Germany, to get into all the good stuff, do you think they already had a plan with Joe Kennedy that his sons were going to run for president?

Michael: Well, that may have been a factor in why John F. Kennedy didn’t accept Forrestal’s offer . . .

David: Oh, he didn’t?

Michael: . . . to join his personal staff, because Forrestal wanted to recruit Kennedy to his personal staff, and because Jack Kennedy died and – you know, his brother, his older brother died – the father, Joe Kennedy, wanted John F. Kennedy to now enter politics.

David: Oh.

Michael: And so that was why Kennedy turned down Forrestal’s offer to be a part of his personal staff, and Kennedy then entered politics instead and became a congressman – elected to Congress in 1946.

David: Well, do you see, in your research in “Kennedy’s Last Stand”, any other evidence that Kennedy was actually given briefings or was made aware of some of what was going on with the extraterrestrial question?

Michael: Well, not so much as far as the extraterrestrial question is concerned, but as far as Nazi Germany’s advanced programs, he was given access to all of it. I mean, he knew what . . .

David: Really?

Michael: . . . was going on, that Forrestal actually was showing Kennedy all of these advanced technologies and Kennedy wrote about it in a book that was published posthumously, called “Prelude to Leadership”.

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Not many people know about this book . . .

David: Never head of it.

Michael: . . . but it’s a book, written by John F. Kennedy, about his time in occupied Europe, and in Germany, in particular. But the important thing to keep in mind here is that at that same time as Forrestal was showing Kennedy all of these captured German technologies, that Forrestal was the guy that was ultimately in charge of the Navy’s secret espionage program in Nazi Germany, where they were getting all of this intel about Germany having two secret space programs.

And so Forrestal was looking, on behalf of the Navy, for anything that he could find about Germany’s secret space programs.

And so that meant that Kennedy knew about all of this, as well.

David: Right.

Michael: And so this is an important historical fact that that book really articulates, that because of Kennedy’s exposure to this whole phenomenon of advanced UFOs, flying saucers, extraterrestrial life – the kind of information Forrestal was sharing with him – because of that, when Kennedy became president in January 1961, that Kennedy really made an effort to get to the bottom of this whole phenomenon and really get power back, in terms of the president running these secret projects, rather than the projects becoming autonomous, as happened under Eisenhower.

David: All right. I want to ask you one more question about Eisenhower, and then I want to toss it back to Corey for a clarification.

4 Corey Michael And David

We know that Eisenhower ordered this invasion of Area 51, as we talked about in our last episode. And in his infamous closing remarks as he leaves office, he warns about the acquisition of unwarranted influence, either sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex, and then he hands it over to Kennedy.

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Have you researched whether there was a conversation between Eisenhower and Kennedy about what Eisenhower had experienced in that transition of power?

Michael: Well, we know from official records that Kennedy met with President Eisenhower twice while Kennedy was President-elect, that they met in December and in January.

And the January event was just a couple of days, two or three days, before the farewell address. So I think it’s fair to assume that whatever Eisenhower shared publicly is much, much less than what he shared privately with Kennedy.

David: Now, you’ve undoubtedly done research on this idea that some kind of benevolent extraterrestrial group met with Eisenhower.

So for those who are not familiar with that, could you just talk a little bit about your knowledge of the Ike and ETs event?

Michael: Sure. Well, I think that there’s so many different whistleblowers who’ve come forward and witnesses, that we can kind of get an idea of the chronology of these different meetings that Eisenhower was a part of.

That starting in February of 1954, that Eisenhower traveled to Edwards Air Force Base, and he met with a positive group of extraterrestrials – what Bill Tompkins describes as Nordic extraterrestrials – and they kind of really emphasized to him the dangers of developing nuclear weapons – thermal nuclear weapons at that time were being deployed; these were hydrogen bombs – and that the Eisenhower administration should follow a more peaceful policy and be open to receiving more spiritual, more ethical information.

Eisenhower, I think, personally, was very impressed by the Nordics, but his national security team said, “No, we’re not going to give up nuclear weapons, and we’re not going to listen to this kind of spiritual, ethical upliftment talk at all.”

So then Eisenhower met with another group of extraterrestrials in February of 1955, this time at Holloman Air Force Base, and this was a group of Grey extraterrestrials, tall Greys, that basically reached agreements with Eisenhower in terms of sharing their technologies.

The Greys weren’t too perturbed that the U.S. was developing thermal nuclear weapons, and so that’s where the agreements began with the Greys.

David: The alleged Tau IX Treaty that led to the formalizing of abductions and all that.

Michael: Right, exactly. And this, of course, all happened after the flyovers in 1952, the Washington flyovers, where you had those craft flying over.

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And, of course, the big debate is, were they extraterrestrial or were they Nazi? And, of course, we’ve had different stories on that, but what Bill Tompkins and what Corey have said, as well as Clark McClelland, is that these were Nazi craft.

And so that suggests that the subsequent meetings that happened, these were . . . The agreement that happened after the Holloman Air Force Base was with a group that was allied with the Nazis.

And interestingly, one of the witnesses that was at Holloman Air Force Base in 1955, he actually referred to that Nazi element.

David: All right. So Corey, what was your personal knowledge of extraterrestrial contacts with presidents? When did that first start? Did anything happen with Truman? Did anything happen with Eisenhower, in terms of what you were told, yourself, on the inside?

Corey: There were meetings with Truman and Eisenhower. Eisenhower was meeting with groups that he mentioned, non-terrestrial groups, as well as one called the Blues.

He had a number of meetings where Nazis flew in in these flying saucers, landed it on bases, and came out and had meetings with, I mean, actual Nazis, as well.

David: And we’ve briefly touched on the Blues before, but this is a fascinating area for me because I was able to independently confirm what you said with Pete Peterson.

So could you describe for us, why were they called the Blues? What did they say and how was it taken?

Corey: They were called the Blues because they had blue skin, and their agenda was peaceful.

Much like the Nordics, they were advising us not to dabble in nuclear energy or weaponry. They also were giving us spiritually uplifting information, information about consciousness, stuff that the military really had no use for.

And much later on, they were referred to, and the Nordics, they refer to them, jokingly, as ‘space hippies’. Although there were no hippies in the 1940s, later on they were called that.

David: What was the deal that the Blues were offering? What would we have to do to get their cooperation?

Corey: Give up nuclear weapons. Give up the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

David: But what would be the payoff for us if we did? What were they offering as the carrot?

Corey: To begin to help us spiritually, to integrate with other civilizations.

David: Now, you had mentioned very briefly Clark McClelland, and that’s just popped up on the radar screen recently in a new insider correlation with Tompkins.

And I’m sure you’re familiar with that, so could you share with us how McClelland has suddenly popped into the story?

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Michael: Well, with Clark McClelland, he was a spacecraft operator for NASA at the end of his career. Prior to that, he worked for about three decades for various NASA contractors.

So he had a bird’s-eye view of what was happening at NASA, and so he was able to confirm what Bill Tompkins had to say, that NASA had been infiltrated by Nazis.

Clark McClelland, for example, said that when he went to the office of Kurt Debus, who was the first Director of the Kennedy Space Center, that McClelland met Hans Kammler.

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9 Hans Kammler

And Kammler was the Nazi SS General that ran their Secret Space Program in occupied Europe, trying to weaponize the technologies – the Die Glocke or the Nazi Bell – that Kammler was in charge of all of this.

So here you have Kammler, in the 1960s, at the Kennedy Space Center meeting with the director.

And so McClelland was able to confirm that that was actually happening, and so that was confirmation, or really strong corroboration, for what Bill Tompkins was saying about the way in which the Nazis continued to have this undue influence over the entire NASA space program, and had actually infiltrated the military-industrial complex.

And that’s one of the things that Tompkins says, that the military-industrial complex – various companies and various military organizations – found themselves almost in a kind of proxy war between these different extraterrestrial factions: the Nazi Reptilian group that were trying to infiltrate and take over the U.S. military-industrial complex, and then another group, the Nordic extraterrestrials, who identified the Navy as really being the one U.S. institution that was kind of much more aligned, or supportive, of U.S. constitutional values.

David: For those who are watching this show who are not familiar with Clark McClelland, I know what his background is, but I’d like for you to share in your words.

What was the big sizzle – his testimony about the Space Shuttle going back years ago – that we’ve all encountered?

Michael: Well, what he did was, he actually said that he saw on the NASA live feed, an incident involving the Space Shuttle, where there was another craft parked near the Space Shuttle – another spacecraft – and there was at least two different types of astronauts accompanying the NASA astronauts, or the Space Shuttle astronauts, who were out there doing a space walk.

He compared the size of these astronauts from this foreign spacecraft. They were around 10-foot tall compared to the NASA astronauts.

So he had a diagram illustrating what he had seen, and so he spoke at length about this as being evidence that there was a Secret Space Program program with alien astronauts that were somehow collaborating with the NASA space program.

David: So one of the things that you’ve gotten into, in some of your more recent work, is this idea of how the fictional tales that are told in movies, and comic books, and now video games, of course, regular books by science fiction authors, like Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, how were they being influenced by what was going on from the things you’ve learned firsthand talking to Tompkins and other insiders?

Michael: Well, one of the people that Bill Tompkins identified as being a key player in the Navy’s development of a secret space program was Admiral Leslie Stevens.

10 Admiral Leslie Clark Stevens

Now, Admiral Stevens, he was actually a contemporary of Admiral Botta, who was running the Navy program out of San Diego, learning all about the Nazi space program.

And what I’ve been able to determine is that, through Freedom of Information Act [FOIA], that Stevens and Botta actually served together on at least one committee.

So this was something that really supported what Bill Tompkins was saying, that Stevens was involved in this and was very familiar with the Navy’s Secret Space Program.

Well, the important thing about Admiral Stevens is that he had a son who had the same name, Leslie Stevens, so Leslie Stevens IV. He was the producer of the famous show, “The Outer Limits”.

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12 The Outer Limits

And at that time, around 1964, ’65, Gene Roddenberry sat in on the set of “The Outer Limits”, to kind of learn from Leslie Stevens how to put together a science fiction show.

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David: Wow! Let me interrupt you just really briefly because this is amazing. So I’m sitting with one of my insiders, who we call Daniel, and he’s the guy that allegedly worked at Montauk, where they back-engineered a seat from a UFO, got it working, and you could sit in the chair, meditate and create a portal that could actually send people through space and time.

And one day he was talking about what happens when you use some of these technologies, and it creates a little orb that can look where you want to have it look.

And he said that the name of this thing was an “outer band individuated teletracer” or OBIT.

And we go online, and I just said, “Hey man, let’s just look this up right now, and see if . . . has anybody ever leaked this information?”

“The Outer Limits” . . .

Michael: Exactly.

David: . . . had an episode called “Outer Band Individuated Teletracer” – exactly the same. And then, the actual description of it was that it was a device that could do all surveillance in all places at all times.

So that showed me right away, okay, “The Outer Limits” has got to have some kind of insider connection.

Michael: And one of the things about Leslie Stevens’ father, the Admiral, he actually ran the psychological warfare operations for the National Security Council.

David: Wow!

Michael: So he was in charge of that. And Leslie Stevens IV, the producer of “The Outer Limits”, his background was military intelligence. So he actually served for military intelligence, and because of his expertise, I believe that what he did during the Second World War was psychological warfare operations.

So then what I’ve been able to deduce from my research – and it’s in the new book – is that Leslie Stevens IV was basically working with his father, up until his father’s death, in psychological warfare operations, in trying to introduce some of these breakthrough ideas as a form of soft disclosure in the media and entertainment industry.

So when we have “The Outer Limits” being created, you have Gene Roddenberry sitting in on it after the failure of a series that he had earlier put together, which was called “The Lieutenant”.

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So it was all about a Navy lieutenant. So that flopped. It only lasted, I think, one year, possibly two years.

And so Roddenberry was advised by his agent to come up with a science fiction show.

So he sat in on “The Outer Limits”, and according to people that were there, Roddenberry and Stevens had reached an information agreement, in terms of Roddenberry would get all the information from Stevens about developing his science fiction series, and he would get all the credit – that he wouldn’t mention Stevens.

David: Wow!

Michael: And that’s exactly what happened. And so then we have, of course, the creation of “Star Trek”.

And if you look at “Star Trek”, some of the main forces, there’s an uncanny parallel with the main groups that Bill Tompkins was talking about.

So in “Star Trek” you have the Confederation of Planets. You have the Vulcans. The Vulcans, we can compare them to say the Nordic extraterrestrials, trying to help humanity.

You also have the Klingons, who would be represented by the Reptilians today.

David: Wow! Okay.

Michael: And then you have the genetically enhanced humans, which were the Nazis.

So if you look at the development of “Star Trek” as a series, the main protagonist in that series, there’s an uncanny resemblance to the major extraterrestrial groups and factions, Earth factions, that were involved in these secret space programs right throughout the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s.

David: So another show that really pops up in my mind, Michael, is “Battlestar Galactica”.

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Did your research turn up anything about “Battlestar Gallactica”?

Michael: Well, what was really significant about “Battlestar Gallactica” was that the creator of “Battlestar Galactica” was Glen Larson.

 Larson

And Glen Larson actually worked under Leslie Stevens.

David: Oh, really?

Michael: He worked with him. They shared a lot of talent. Leslie Stevens was the senior, and so Larson had reached a similar kind of agreement with Leslie Stevens where Stevens would come up with ideas and help Larson in developing a science fiction show.

And what’s interesting – and this we’ve learned from people who have later on interviewed key people that were involved in the creation of “Battlestar Galactica” – was that the pilot episode of “Battlestar Galactica” was actually written by Leslie Stevens IV.

David: Really?

Michael: So you actually have the son of a Navy Admiral that was involved in the Navy’s Secret Space Program, writing the pilot episode for a new sci-fi series that he would not get any credit for, but would actually go under the control and be all credited to Glenn Larson.

David: Wow!

Michael: And so, again, this kind of shows that the Navy, through Leslie Stevens, was wanting to have these ideas, the truth of a Navy Secret Space Program and different forms of extraterrestrial life, including artificial intelligence, because that’s what “Battlestar Galactica” really focuses on, is the danger of artificial intelligence.

And so Glen Larson, in that series, just developed the whole idea of extraterrestrials that are having to deal with this conflict with different AI life forms who are intent on eradicating the human creators of that life form throughout the galaxy.

And this is something that kind of dovetails with what Corey has revealed. I remember Corey talking to great length about the danger posed by artificial intelligence, and how AI was screened by the different secret space programs because of the threat.

So this, again, is just confirmation that this was very real material that was being seeded into the public domain through these movies.

David: Do you think . . .

Corey: The truth is definitely stranger than fiction.

David: Do you think that this Leslie Stevens connection is why you hear Naval whistles when people walk into the room on “Star Trek”?

Michael: Oh, definitely. Yeah, I mean, you look at “Star Trek” itself, I mean, it’s all based on this, kind of like, . . . they use Navy procedures and the rankings are Navy.

David: Right.

Michael: The Star Fleet – they talk about Star Fleet Command and all of that. So, yeah, they use a lot of Navy terminology in “Star Trek”, and I believe that’s because the Navy was getting Stevens to leak this stuff out into the public arena through soft disclosure.

Because I think what the Navy really thought, through the 1960s, that eventually, by the time that they had finished building their battle groups that were deployed in the early 1980s, that disclosure would have happened by then.

David: Oh.

Michael: So I think that “Star Trek” was part of an effort by the Navy to kind of seed these ideas into the public consciousness, so that at some time in the future, when the truth was revealed that the Navy had the know-how to build these space battle groups, that the public would come on board and support it, and so the Navy could continue to develop this and expand it.

David: So Michael, I have some documents here that show some really amazing work that you’ve done in terms of taking the Tompkins’ story that we’ve all been dealing with now, and bringing it into this Freedom of Information Act academic research arena that ufology is known for.

So the first one that you have here . . . it’s from U.S. Naval Air Station San Diego signed by Rico Botta.

17 12 24 1943 Doc

18 Rico Botta S Signature

So what’s going on here with this particular document?

Michael: Well, with this document, this was something that William Tompkins put into his book, “Selected by Extraterrestrials”, and basically these were exit slips that he could use to be able to leave Naval Air Station San Diego with documents, with briefing packets, which is a key part of his story.

David: Right.

Michael: But in terms of verifying, well, is this real? Are these exit passes real? Do they have information on them that can be independently corroborated?

So that’s what I tried to do, and I used the FOIA Information Act documents that I received to corroborate that these exit passes were actually signed by a person who actually was in charge of Naval Air Station San Diego at the time that Tompkins said that he received the permission to take these packages out. And then that, of course, concerns Rico Botta.

19 Tompkins Exit Pass 1

20 Tompkins Exit Pass 2

David: It says here that it was for “issue of non-combat airplane.” Ha, ha.

21 Tompkins Exit Pass 3

Michael: Well, that’s right.

David: So what the heck is that?

Michael: Yeah, well, what that document shows is that Tompkins not only was given permission to take these briefing packets out of Naval Air Station San Diego, but he was also given permission to use a plane – to take an actual non-combat plane that was owned by the Admiral – to deliver these packages.

So this is corroborating a key part of Tompkins’ story that he took these different briefing packets to various aerospace companies throughout the U.S., especially the west coast of the U.S. at the time, the different military departments and so forth.

So it’s really . . . Corroborating this document helps determine some key elements of his testimony.

 Rico Botta

David: Okay, now here we have a photograph of Rico Botta, Lieutenant Commander of the U.S. Navy, August 27, 1934, and then his signature.

23 Comparison Of Signatures

And what’s so interesting about this, Michael, is that in this next document you showed us, you have compared that signature on that photograph to the signature that was on the release for the packages, and they’re basically identical. I mean, it’s the same signature.

So how did you get this picture of Rico Botta? Where did that come from? Let’s talk about that first.

Michael: Well, that picture of Rico Botta, that came from his Freedom of Information Act files, the 1,500 pages of documents that I received.

David: So you filed for them, and you actually got them in the mail?

Michael: I filed with the aid of an attorney.

David: Okay.

Michael: His name is Duke Brookhouse and he has been helping with these FOIA requests.

And so, when we got the documents, I went through them and identified the ones that helped corroborate key elements of Tompkins’ story.

So this particular document, with his signature and his photo – even though it’s dated from the early 1930s – clearly shows that the signature is identical with what was on those exit passes that Tompkins gave.

So that is independent corroboration that Tompkins’ document is genuine. And that’s very important that you actually . . . Tompkins’ exit passes . . . those two exit passes showing that he had permission to take these briefing packets out of San Diego Naval Air Station, that that’s a genuine document.

So that’s a very important part of corroborating his story that he was able to take these to different facilities, and that he was given permission to actually use an airplane to fly these to the different locations.

24 Navy Dept 1942 Doc

David: Okay. Now, the next one here, it says Navy Department, Bureau of Navigation, Washington, D.C., dated September 30, 1942, from the Chief of Naval Personnel to Captain Rico Botta.

And the thing that really jumps out at me here, it says, “Proceed to the place (or places – in the order given) indicated below, for temporary duty.”

25 Navy Dept 1942 Doc 2

And then you look down here, it says that this is “in connection with inspecting experimental aircraft and for conferences in connection with [David clears his throat to emphasize this part] aircraft matters:”

Then you get this list of “U.S. Army Air Force Experimental Station, Muroc, which we’ve all heard about the Muroc base, Douglas Aircraft, Northrop, Naval Air Station, San Diego, Consolidated Aircraft Corporation, San Diego.”

This is crazy. What is he talking about with “experimental aircraft and conferences in connection with aircraft matters?”

Michael: Well, this is, again, another document that independently corroborates various aspects of Tompkins’ testimony, that Tompkins says that he was taking these briefing packets to those facilities, as well as many others.

So this document confirms that Botta, prior to this operation that Botta oversaw in Naval Air San Diego, Botta had traveled to some of these same facilities, and that these facilities were conducting experimental aircraft research. And that Botta was the Navy’s guy when it came to understanding experimental aircraft research, and that Botta was being prepped for this new assignment, because visiting those facilities happened less than two months before he was transferred over to Naval Air Station San Diego.

So he was being prepped for that new assignment coming up, where he would be receiving intelligence from Navy spies in Germany about the Germans’ secret space programs. And that once he received the intelligence from the Navy spies, that he would then instruct Tompkins to carry briefing packets to those facilities that you just mentioned, as well as many others that Tompkins said.

So, you know, again, this is another important document that independently verifies that Bill Tompkins’ story is credible. And, of course, . . .

David: How did we get this document?

Michael: That came through the Freedom of Information Act.

26 Navy Dept 1942 Doc 3

David: Okay, so another document we have here is dated February 25, 1942, which, for the real UFO freaks, you’re going to know that, because that is immediately after the infamous Battle of Los Angeles.

And what we’re having here is Navy Department, Bureau of Aeronautics, from Washington, and it is orders for Rico Botta to have additional temporary duty. And it says for him to proceed, on about March 2, 1942, to Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, i.e. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

27 Navy Dept 1942 3b

Michael: Exactly.

David: Holy crap! This is amazing!

Corey: Smoking document!

David: Ha, ha. I just want to throw it across the room, it’s so crazy. It’s like, wow! So talk . . . I know what I’m seeing here, but talk us through, in case people aren’t as excited as I am right now, as to why this is so significant.

Michael: Well, February 24 and 25, 1942, is when you had the famous L.A. Air Raid incident. And according to documents that have been released, The Majestic Documents, and according to what Bill Tompkins has said, there were two flying saucers that were retrieved after that crash – one by the Navy, one by the Army Air Force.

David: So some of them did get shot down.

Michael: That’s what we’re told by The Majestic Documents and what Bill Tompkins said.

Now, the one that the Army Air Force got their hands on was taken to Wright Field, which was, at the time, the Army Air Force’s premier research facility for foreign aviation technologies.

David: “Foreign.” Yeah, ha, ha.

Michael: So this was taken, . . . or this craft was retrieved, on February 25, and it was being taken to Wright Field at that time.

Now, on this very same day, Admiral Botta, who is the head of the Navy’s Powerplant Division at the Bureau of Aeronautics, gets orders to travel to Wright Field in early March, to basically do some work over there.

David: Right.

Michael: And the timing . . .

28 Navy Dept 1942 Doc 3c

David: It says, “In connection with engine development.” on the same document. What kinds of engines are they trying to develop here?

Michael: Right, so . . .

David: Probably anti-gravity. So, yeah.

Michael: So that’s a smoking gun document . . .

David: That’s incredible.

Michael: . . . that really shows that Botta was the guy that the Navy had tapped as their expert in understanding these foreign technologies – anything to do with extraterrestrial craft or Nazi craft – that Botta was the man.

And so he was nominated to go to Wright Field to really look over what it was that the Army Air Force had gotten their hands on from the L.A. Raid.

Corey: And did you say that, in an earlier conversation we had, that Rico Botta was an engineer?

Michael: That’s correct. Yes, he was an engineer. He was an expert on engine development, on power plants.

Corey: Power plants.

Michael: He was, actually at the time, the Chief of the Power Plant Division for the Bureau of Aeronautics. So he was the guy that really understood what it was that needed to be done in terms of developing high-capacity engines for high-performance aviation maneuvers.

And so if you’re talking about craft that were capable of spaceflight, he was the guy that would be able to give you insights into that.

29 Navy Doc 4

David: Right, and you have this document right here from March 15, 1946, where it says that, “his outstanding technical knowledge and skill, Rear Admiral Botta enabled his department , , , “ blah, blah, blah “. . . for combat aircraft . . . with the latest combat-improved changes . . .”

30 Navy Doc 4b

So it’s clearly . . . You have documents here saying that he’s involved in upgrading the quality of technology of combat aircraft engines and energy technologies.

Michael: Right. Exactly. That was his duty while he was working at Naval Air Station San Diego from 1942 to 1946, that he was the assembly and repair officer.

And so his job was to basically upgrade the performance of all the Navy jet fighter craft.

And in addition to that, he was also learning about what it was that the Nazis were doing in developing jet engines and also trying to weaponize flying saucers, because you had to consider that the Navy had to be prepared that the Nazis were going to succeed in developing weaponized flying saucers.

So the Navy was looking to Botta to provide the expertise and the leadership for how to deal with that contingency. But it didn’t happen, fortunately, but Botta was the guy that the Navy had tapped to lead that effort.

David: You also have actually interviewed people associated with Rico Botta, and so could you tell us a little about that and what, in just a few minutes, is the most interesting takeaway of your research, up until now, in that department?

Michael: Well, I’ve been able to have conversations with the grandson of Rico Botta, who was able to confirm some really interesting things about Botta’s contacts with the leaders of the aviation industry at the time, that he was personal friends with Jack Northrup and William Boeing, that Botta was also someone that continued to meet with senior Navy officials.

31 Mark Hill

One official that was named was Admiral Mark Hill, who was Botta’s military aide while Botta was the head of the Navy’s Armaments Section at Philadelphia Naval Shipyards, that Mark Hill was helping Botta there as his military aide, and that after Botta retired, that Mark Hill, as an active officer and he became a Rear Admiral himself, continued to visit with Botta and have conversations.

And so, to me, that’s pretty strong evidence that Botta’s insights and knowledge about these very advanced technologies was something that was being shared, even up until the time of his retirement and subsequent death, with very senior Navy officials.

David: What do you think is going to happen with this forensic reconstruction of history in time? Will we be able to eventually get new insiders, and new whistleblowers, and really get a reconstructed view of 20th century history? Do you think that will happen?

Michael: Oh, definitely. Yeah. I think that’s what’s happening now, is we’re starting to get the chronology of how the Navy developed its Secret Space Program, involving these enormous space battle groups, and that as these names are identified, and we start to track down relatives or others that worked with them, we’re probably going to find others that are willing to talk about what it was that they experienced.

So we’re trying to do that now, and I’m hoping that in this investigation of Admiral Mark Hill and Admiral Botta and his relatives, that we’re going to have more names popping up.

David: Corey, do you have any last thoughts before we close the episode?

Corey: It’s been amazing to me, the entire process of Tompkins coming out. He’s literally providing the information, or a lot of the information, I observed in the glass pad. And to see someone come out that was giving that intel, or delivering that intel, it’s a very strange synchronicity.

And the fact that he had no idea I was coming forward – all of it seems orchestrated.

David: And we’re now getting this actual nuts and bolts documentation – connecting dots, interviewing survivors – to actually show forensic reconstruction of the whole history of what led up to you eventually being in something that most people think is just completely outrageous and beyond belief.

Corey: Absolutely. And Dr. Salla’s latest research is just bolstering it more and more.

David: Well, I want to thank you, Michael, for coming in. I think these are really groundbreaking episodes that will be of extreme historical importance as we get into Full Disclosure.

And I want to honor you for your contributions in really bringing the academic spectrum in on this whole question of our “Cosmic Disclosure” show.

Michael: Thank you, David. It’s been a pleasure. And thanks, Corey.

Corey: Thank you.

David: Thank you. And I want to thank you out there for watching. You are a very important part of “Cosmic Disclosure”. With your support, telling your friends about it, we are lifting the laughter curtain. We are bringing real academic interest into something that was so far outside the norm of what UFO researchers used to talk about, and yet, as you’re seeing, it all adds up beautifully.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode, and our special guest, from Exopolitics Institute, Dr. Michael Salla. Thank you for watching.