COSMIC DISCLOSURE: ALIEN TECH AT THE VATICAN

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. And here again with me is Emery Smith, a friend of mine for the last 10 years.

I’ve been leaning on you for a decade to do this, and you finally have. So, thank you, Emery. And thank you on behalf of all people in the world who want freedom and Full Disclosure.

Emery Smith: Oh, thanks for having me, Dave.

David: We were actually driving in the car, and we were talking about the bodies that you’d autopsied, but then you told me something in the car that I think sheds some deeper light on your experience.

And I’d like us to go into that part now, even though I think it’s farther along in your career.

But it helps to establish a fundamental truth, which is that insiders, typically, when you get a real one, they have lots of different, cool things that they’ve done.

So tell us about the Vatican.

Emery: Oh, the Vatican. Yes, yes.

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So a private organization went to the DoD [US Department of Defense] and the mil [military] labs I was working at, and they needed some technicians and some scientists to go to the Vatican to look at their archives, because they know that they had some information on a craft that was taken in New Mexico.

David: So there had been a UFO . . .

Emery: That was shot down.

David: Oh!

Emery: Yeah.

David: And it was a recent one.

Emery: Yes, very recent. And they took this craft . . .

David: Why would they shoot it down? Was it hostile? Did it do anything bad?

Emery: No, no, no, not at all.

David: Oh.

Emery: No, it just got too close to some of the weapons up there . . .

David: Oh! Okay.

Emery: . . . and from what I heard, from the debriefing.

And I don’t know where it crashed. I just know where it was at.

David: Do we know anything about what this craft looked like or what kind of occupants they found inside?

Emery: No, there were no occupants that was mentioned, but the craft did look like a tetrahedron.

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The best way I could put it is: make a tetrahedron out of PVC pipes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yep. And about eight feet in diameter.

David: Uh!

Emery: Yeah, and it has a light in the middle of it.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And this was like a robotic drone?

Emery: It always stays centered. Ah, it could have been. But then again, a lot of these craft are conscious, actually.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it can . . . Every now and then, it’ll strobe. And then it’ll fill up the spaces so you can’t see through it.

David: What will fill up spaces?

Emery: Like, you know, I just said it was an empty tetrahedron, like made out of PVC pipe?

David: Right.

Emery: So you could see through it, and you could see the light in the middle.

David: Oh!

Emery: Uh-huh. Yeah.

David: What color was the orb of light? Do we know?

Emery: It was blue, but it was very small, like probably three inches in diameter.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: And the tetrahedron itself was white?

Emery: It was . . . The outside of it was like if you made one with PVC pipe and it was pure white, and it was seamless.

David: Wow!

Emery: And if you got too close to it, it would actually fill in a space of . . . that you could not see into it.

David: But I still don’t know if I understand.

Emery: Okay. So if you have an empty tetrahedron that you can see through, and we’re only talking about the outside lines, okay?

David: Okay.

Emery: So you could see through it, and you can see this ball.

David: Oh.

Emery: And if you get too close to it, it’ll actually go solid.

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David: This tetrahedron goes solid?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And then what does it look like?

Emery: It’s just white. It’s just white.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, pure white.

David: So this appears to have been some kind of drone. There were no occupants in it.

Emery: There were no occupants, but it doesn’t mean . . . because that white light could be some sort of consciousness.

David: Or a being. Right.

Emery: Or a being.

David: Yeah.

Emery: So you cannot . . . Any time you see light, you have to think being first and then go from there.

David: So you’re saying, if I’m getting this right, that the Department of Defense had this craft, or whatever it is, get shot down in New Mexico.

And they’re drawing a blank as to what it is or where it came from.

Emery: Yeah. I don’t know where it was shot down. I just know it was stored in New Mexico, . . .

David: Oh!

Emery: . . . because that’s where I was at. But it was a first of its kind, so they had . . .

David: They have a very robust idea of what normally would crash, correct?

Emery: Yes.

David: They have an extensive catalog?

Emery: They have an extensive collection, I will say.

David: Yeah, ha, ha. Okay. But this skewed the charts in some way.

Emery: Yes. Yes, it gave off different, I guess, frequencies or something that they were amazed about. And it didn’t show any aggression or whatever after it was shot down.

And it was still obviously operational.

David: And you say that this craft was in the category where it appears that the material itself is a life form somehow?

Emery: Well, I don’t know about THAT, because I wasn’t in on that part. All I know is that ball on the inside had energy.

David: Okay.

Emery: So energy and light always could mean life.

David: Okay. So what did they decide to do about this craft? If they don’t know what it is, they don’t know where it came from, what kind of resources can they draw upon at that point?

Emery: Well, what they do is they form a team, and they do a big background check around the world, because there’s other catalogs in other countries and other religions.

And, of course, the Vatican has always been a huge database. It has a huge archive of many things: artifacts and things they have found from space and have collected over many, many, many, many years.

And they have an underground base under the Vatican.

So two scientists and myself were deployed to that area to the Vatican to an undisclosed location in the Vatican. And we took an elevator down about seven or eight floors.

David: Hm.

Emery: And that’s kind of how it all started. We got permission from the Vatican. They set it all up.

We’re just contractors going there to collect any type of information that would be similar to this device.

David: So is it common that there is interagency cooperation?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: Usually for exchange for favors.

David: Now, you are an Air Force veteran, right?

Emery: Yes.

David: And we’ve often heard from various insiders that there’s like an Air Force wing of the military-industrial complex and a Navy wing. They kind of broke off after World War II . . .

Emery: That’s true.

David: And they’ve grown into these totally separate industrial complexes.

Emery: That’s very true.

David: So would you estimate that most of your experience is in the Air Force side, because that’s where you started, or . . .

Emery: Yeah, for this particular thing, I would say so, but they still work together when they have questions.

David: Okay.

Emery: They’re not banging heads.

David: Right.

Emery: But they do like to keep their secrets together, because the more they can show the government, the more money they can get at the end of the year.

So if I have some really cool things that I’ve collected this year for this corporation, this mil lab or Air Force mil lab, then we get more money.

And so they don’t always share the secrets of what they’re doing, but they do always work together to figure out things that they can’t figure out. They work always . . . They’re very compliant with that.

David: So I think the military budget, even on-the-books military budget, recently was like in the neighborhood of $864 billion – the ridiculous $700 toilet seats and that kind of thing, and the little nuts that cost $65.

So the idea being that the military budget has a lot of room in it for off-balance sheet expenditures.

Emery: That is correct. You know, you could get a toilet seat for $700. And they WILL go to Home Depot and buy it for $2.00. And they’ll buy 2,000 of them. And then the rest of that money goes where?

David: Well, apparently, you guys are fighting over it is what you’re telling me now. It’s like a healthy . . .

Emery: It is a competition.

David: Competition.

Emery: But from my experience, I mean, and I’m not one of the executives there by far or their financial advisers, but just from what I heard from some of the higher upper-class people in there that they usually always get about the same.

David: Oh.

Emery: So it’s not this . . . They’re not beating them by billions of dollars.

David: Right.

Emery: And it is actually not billions, it’s trillions.

David: Right, when you encounter all the other ways that money is being generated.

Emery: Correct.

David: So if we have this craft that comes down, and they don’t know what it is, just in a very general sense, if you can speculate – and I understand you might not have definitive knowledge, but I’d like your speculations. It’s going to be probably better than mine.

How often do you think this kind of stuff is happening?

Emery: Daily.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: DAILY? There’s crashes of UFOs daily?

Emery: Well, they may be . . .

David: I would not have expected that.

Emery: They’re actually identified, because when we say “UFO”, we’re thinking . . .

David: Vehicles.

Emery: Vehicles. But there ARE a lot of vehicles that are recovered from space, or shot down from space, and then recovered and brought back too. And they’re not always, of course, inhabited at all.

David: Right.

Emery: And a lot of these things too, actually, it’s like the Trojan horse. They want us to bring this in here, so we can learn about good technology and can reverse engineer something.

David: A positive Trojan horse.

Emery: Right – a very positive Trojan horse.

David: Not like an AI infestation . . .

Emery: No!

David: . . . that swarm over the planet.

Emery: No, not at all.

David: Okay.

Emery: So, and that’s what . . . It’s so exciting that the scientists do realize that. And a lot of the corporations also learn about that.

The sad part is once they figure it out, it’s forever for it to come to the public for us to use to help make our lives better.

David: All right. I’m still a little reeling here, and probably they are too. Every day? EVERY DAY?

Emery: Yes, every day.

David: Wouldn’t there be people filming this with their phones? Wouldn’t there be incident reports and . . .

Emery: Well, I think there are a lot of abnormal things people are seeing on YouTube and all these things.

David: Okay.

Emery: And probably 90% of them are fake disinformation . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . or fake alien reproduction vehicles that they’ll fly by just to make people fearful or whatnot. So there IS this happening.

But you have to understand, this doesn’t happen usually over a major city. These things are usually . . . now are being shot down in XO atmospheric areas and brought back and then brought back very carefully to the surface here.

David: Okay.

Emery: So it’s not always like you shoot a jet down, and you see it streaming down, and kaboom.

David: Right.

Emery: You know, that’s very rare.

David: So in a sense then, if we could liken this in some ways to a war, they are going to be very meticulous about not leaving any vehicles on the battlefield.

Emery: Oh, you will not see any vehicles on the battlefield.

David: Right.

Emery: No.

David: So whatever happens, they bring it in . . .

Emery: It’s intentional

David: They take a look.

Emery: Right.

David: Right. So that would then mean, I would guess, that there probably is some sort of diplomatic relationship with various ET groups. And then when people try to get in and breach that agreement or that contract, if you will, that’s when problems arise? Would you say that’s true?

Emery: Yeah, just like with Eisenhower. I mean, there were some nice, good things happening with the meetings. There have been many presidential meetings with certain ET civilizations.

And I think what happens is just because the president shakes hands with an extraterrestrial doesn’t always mean that the president’s military-industrial complex is also part of that contract.

David: Right.

Emery: And that’s the problem. So we did . . . Hm . . . Our contract is void and null now because of this problem.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: So if you could again speculate – and I understand that this is purely off the top of your head . . .

Emery: Sure.

David: . . . or maybe you have some briefings, I don’t know. If you’re saying that one a day on the average is being recovered, that would be 365 per year, how many of those per year might you think would be unconventional or otherwise requiring a deeper degree of research for them to understand?

Emery: Well, let me get one thing. When I say collecting one a day, it could be a piece of equipment.

David: Ah.

Emery: Okay? It could be an archaeological find, or it could be something from space that they have collected. Or it could be something we shot down.

David: Wow!

Emery: So those are the . . . When I say that, that’s how much data we are getting in on these devices EVERY day.

David: Wow!

Emery: So that’s why it’s growing so much, and so much money is going into these projects, because it’s an unlimited amount of . . . We can’t keep up with what’s happening.

So they’re starting to store these things. And then certain things, certain organizations, are buying massive amounts of satellites to track these things with neutrino light detectors and forming their own ways of getting this technology as well, instead of just the military-industrial complex.

David: I want to run something by you, and it annoys me, okay? So this is a question that I ask out of some degree of anger.

But it very much upset me when I was talking to my insider, Jacob, where he was describing the redundancy of technology. That in some cases they found so much of a certain type of technology, like for example, ruins on the planet Mars, just in case we ever get there in the future, they’ve actually bulldozed over ancient sites and buried them, because they feel like they know what’s there, and they don’t want it to be so easily discovered.

Have you ever heard of things like that going on?

Emery: I’ve heard of things like that going on here on Earth.

David: Really?

Emery: And I wouldn’t pass it by anyone else that that’s happening on Mars as well.

David: So do you think then that the technology that they have in these secret programs is so immensely vast that in a lot of cases they can bring things in, and it’s not really going to advance our knowledge that much?

Emery: It will always, usually 90% of the time, advance our knowledge, yes.

David: Oh, really?

Emery: I mean, if they bring any type of equipment, or bodies, or craft, or whatever it is, we are still learning. We are the medieval people here trying to get a hammer and a wheel made.

So all these little bits and pieces all still fit together sometimes. So you might get a piece today and a piece two years from now, and like, “Ah, here’s the two pieces. Great!”

David: Oh, wow.

Emery: And that’s why it’s important now that a lot of the military-industrial complexes and the military, and the private organizations, are now teaming up for things they can’t figure out, because they’ll work on a project . . . they used to work on projects for maybe five or 10 years without asking for help.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’s kind of like the husband and wife driving around, and the husband is not going to ask and stop for directions whatsoever, because we’re too stubborn.

David: Right.

Emery: So that’s kind of where it’s at now, but it’s different. So they’re sharing information. They’re sharing data but very limitedly and very carefully.

David: It does seem to me as if the intellectual capital, the, if you will, financial and informational value of having more skilled employees working on this stuff, it would appear that once we have disclosure, and we can get a lot more, potentially tens or hundreds of millions of people more, working on all this stuff, that we will quantum leap even beyond wherever they are now so much. That’s what I would think.

Emery: Yes. Yeah, there’s still rules, and laws, and regulations universally, but as far as technologically, we will overnight transform the world within like a week.

David: Right.

Emery: I mean, you’ll be able to 3D terraform houses in any place 50′ above the Amazon so you’re not destroying the trees.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’ll be cities will be put up everywhere. I know even our government has contacted me to orchestrate and architect a special city here that’s self-sustainable, that’s off-grid, has its own communications, its own electric, and all this stuff, because they’re preparing to do this model everywhere.

David: Wow!

Emery: And our government is in full support of that, especially POTUS.

David: This doesn’t make me think that we have any overpopulation problem at all. If you have people who can become skilled workers, we want more of them. We should be colonizing. We should be going out and developing inside moons, developing inside other planets and on the surface of these planets.

We don’t need to get rid of people. We need more people.

Emery: Right. We will need more people, because once the intelligence and all of this information comes out, then everyone’s going to be really smart really quick. So then people will be training immediately on this stuff.

And the secret science behind how to do all of that will be revealed.

David: Wow!

Emery: And as soon as that’s revealed, you’re right, it’ll be like taking a flight from LA to New York, but to the Moon or Mars, to help colonize.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And it’ll be that safe and that easy.

David: So I want to make sure we get into the Vatican.

Emery: Okay.

David: You go down this elevator.

Emery: Yes.

David: You’re on an invited mission to try to figure out what the heck this tetrahedron thing is.

Emery: Right.

David: So what do you see? Let’s . . . First, just tell me what the elevator looked like. Anything unusual about the elevator?

Emery: No, it was a very large elevator, larger than normal. You could put a car in it.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Normal elevator. Very clean.

David: Okay. Round, square?

Emery: No, square. Rectangular.

David: Okay. So the doors open, and what do you see?

Emery: We walk in. The floor was white. Walls were white. It was like a black rail.

David: A black rail where?

Emery: There was just like a black rail around the inside of the . . . like a rail you could hold on to.

David: Okay. On the walls?

Emery: Yeah, on the walls, about 3′ up.

David: Okay.

Emery: There’s no windows, no glass, nothing like that. It was just a normal elevator. It was very silent. I didn’t know it actually started moving.

David: Oh!

Emery: It was like the most quietest elevator I’ve ever . . . You know, you usually feel the little bounce.

David: Right. Right.

Emery: There was no bounce. It was like we were sitting actually just talking, whenever we got . . .and when the doors shut, I was like, “Is someone going to push a button or something?”

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: I get antsy, you know?

David: Right.

Emery: And then I was like . . . And all of a sudden, like in a minute, the doors open. I was like, “What? Vatican elevator’s broken?”

David: Are you wearing some kind of uniform or civvies [civilian clothes] at this point, or what?

Emery: I’m wearing civvies, yeah.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah, civvies. Nothing special.

David: So you go in after the doors open, . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . and what do you see?

Emery: The first thing I see is a giant auditorium-type area. It reminded me . . . and I don’t like referring to movies, but in Harry Potter’s “Hogwarts”, I think it was like the vault system with all the little trolls, where you look up and you see all these square vaults, but it was very rustic.

This was spotless clean. It was beautiful glass everywhere. It was just like . . .

David: Oh, my God!

Emery: . . . these huge cubicles of glass. And some were different sizes. So it was really neat.

And through these cubicles of glass were all these metal strips and lines.

And then there were these platforms about 6′ in diameter that could travel to any of these things.

And there was no jerky movements to them. They just kind of flowed and then could turn, and . . .

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: . . . but only on angles. They didn’t do circles, or anything, to whatever . . . And there were many people on these things doing things with the vaults and looking through them and doing things.

David: Wow!

Emery: But I didn’t get to go . . . I was only on the first floor.

David: So this is kind of different. This is why I wanted you to say this, and why I wanted to do this right now is: the Vatican Library, you think it’s like stacks of books and bookshelves.

Emery: Well . . .

David: This is very different.

Emery: Well, we’re getting to that, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . because we had to walk through this area to get to that old . . . that other stuff you see in the movies of books everywhere and things like that.

David: But what you’re describing right now is like straight out of a sci-fi movie. It must have been just breathtakingly incredible.

Emery: It was the most amazing thing . . . one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen, . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . because they’re . . . the glass too, I was like, “This is . . .” They keep all this cool equipment behind this glass. I’m thinking, “That’s ridiculous!”

Glass can break, and earthquakes, and, you know, whatever . . . explosions.

And he’s like, “Oh, no. That’s not glass. That’s metal. That’s a type of metal.”

The head director . . .

David: Wow! Like transparent aluminum, maybe, something like that?

Emery: Yeah, it was like a . . . Well, he said it’s a . . . he did . . . He just said it was a metal. It’s not glass.

David: Okay.

Emery: That’s all he said. He didn’t give specifics, and I wasn’t there to learn about the glass, even though I wanted to know.

David: So what was behind the glass? Let’s just be clear about that.

Emery: Many different things. I mean, there was equipment back there that I’ve never seen before.

Some things looked like weapons. Some things looked like scrolls but on big plaques of like kind of a . . . It looked like Plexiglas, like stacks of them.

And they all had their own thing. There’s no labeling on the outside of these doors, so you know.

David: Wow!

Emery: None. No numbers; no symbols. It’s just a gigantic, . . . like six floors of these cubicles.

David: Geez.

Emery: Unreal. I mean . . . And like I said, cubicles there too were as small as a foot (12”). And some were as big as 20′.

David: Was the thing like a hexagon or like a square?

Emery: It was all square.

David: Okay. Wow!

Emery: Yeah, it was all square.

David: Wow!

Emery: So as we were walking, I did notice some equipment that looked like giant . . . those Dorjes, those ancient brass things that they used to hold out.

David: Yeah. In Tibet.

Emery: Yeah, in Tibet.

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I noticed they were in the shape of that, but they were solid, and they were luminous.

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David: Wow!

Emery: And there were no electrical cords going to it at all.

David: I’ve always thought that the double Dorje thing is some kind of technology that they just emulated with these little sculptures they have.

Emery: Right, but this was like a really cool, artistic, modern, ultramodern version.

David: Wow!

Emery: It was really neat with really cool edges on it.

David: Wow!

Emery: And it was glowing. And there was no electrical cords in there or sockets. It was just there.

David: Wow!

Emery: So . . . And you have to understand I wasn’t there for that. So I can’t stop . . . This is not like walking through the Louvre, of course.

David: Yeah.

Emery: We’re on a mission, and you just keep your mouth shut, and we go where we’re going to go, which we wanted to go to the archives to find out about this, this device, or this ship, this craft with this light.

David: So what happened after you got through this majestic crystalline auditorium?

Emery: After we got through that, there was another double doors at the bottom, and they just slid open.

David: Like glass doors, or . . .

Emery: Hm-hmm, glass doors. They just slid open – just like separated.

David: Any noise?

Emery: No noise at all.

David: Wow!

Emery: It was very quiet in there. No echoing, either, which was weird for me, because I thought even like a voice would echo in this room.

David: And when you saw the people on those moving platforms, what were they wearing?

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Emery: They were all in white, like those . . . you know the surgical suits that are made out of that fabric?

David: Ah.

Emery: And they had also on their heads the normal white caps.

David: Wow!

Emery: They’re in a clean suit.

David: Clean room.

Emery: Right, but it wasn’t surgically clean. I think whatever they were doing, they were all holding something and looking at something and looking into the glass.

David: Wow!

Emery: So I don’t know what they were doing at all. I have no clue.

David: And do you think that there was anything beyond the first layer of these cages? Like was there deeper layers beyond one layer, or was it just all on the surface?

Emery: On the first floor where I was, I could not see . . . I mean, it just ended. Some were 10′ deep. Some were 30′ deep. You know, like I said, some were small, like 12” cubes, and some were enormous.

We walked by one that was at least 20′ tall (almost 7 meters).

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: Amazing.

Emery: Yeah, it is amazing.

David: So what happens after these quiet doors open up? Where do you go next?

Emery: So now we’re in the main library, I believe.

David: Hm.

Emery: And there’s these giant, cylindrical, gas-controlled tubes that are probably anywhere from 6′ to 3′ in diameter. And there’s hundreds of them that go up very, very high.

David: You said 6′ to 3′ in diameter?

Emery: Yeah, 6′ to 3′ in diameter, glass, or whatever – metal, glass, or whatever they call it.

David: Okay.

Emery: And there’s windows on them that open up, and it goes up and down. And they have a thing that they hold, and they can scroll up, and then all those books go down. Like they’re all on shelves, all these books, okay, and all these tablets. And they go up and down.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah, up and down inside these cylindrical columns, which I heard were vacuumed and gas-controlled to keep them from getting old.

David: Wow!

Emery: And so they took us to this place and went to this one column. And he just brought it right up – all these different books about this particular craft. And we were able to get all that information.

David: What did the books look like, and how old were they?

Emery: Well, it looks like these books were actually translated from another book that someone wrote, because they said a lot of this was all translated. So it was all perfectly written and typed, like very new . . . just like today, like nothing fancy at all, to be honest.

David: Okay.

Emery: It was in binders and folders and whatnot. So it wasn’t fancy or futuristic.

David: Okay.

Emery: It was just a huge database. But in many columns I looked at were very old things, like very leather-looking books.

And I noticed one had blocks in it. And I thought they were blocks, but they were tablets with information on them.

David: Did any of the leather books have a color cover, like a bright color?

Emery: Yes, I did see one that had many . . . like one of the columns had many colors in it, . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . and many sizes too. Like I saw one shelf had 6′ books.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, it looked like books. I mean, it was far away, maybe 30′ away.

David: Well, when Peterson described his trip into the Vatican, he said that a lot of the books were leather-bound and that they had buckles on them . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . and that they were color . . . like bright colors, like a bright red, bright green.

Emery: Yes. Yes, yes, I saw that, and it was very thick.

David: Wow!

Emery: The leather was very thick, and they did have metal on them. I’ve seen a lot of that just walking to where we had to go.

David: So did you guys get to take the book and bring it to a reading area, like a table or something?

Emery: Yeah, no, he pulled it out. And there’s tables everywhere that are off the ground on pedestals, and he just laid it out on this 6′ glass pedestal, or whatever it was, glass or not glass. I’ll just call it metal glass.

And he opened it up, and he is the one who shows us. We can’t touch it, actually.

David: Oh.

Emery: So he shows like, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And there was also a translator that was there, because the English was not that good.

And there were two other of their technicians there that upkeep, like library bookkeepers. So that was really interesting, librarians.

So the next thing that happened is they opened it up, and he just started scrolling through. And we were looking at it. I was looking at it with the two scientists.

And this is what we wanted. It was like exactly what . . .

So then we asked him if he had anything else that was similar to this. And he did.

David: Hm.

Emery: So then he took us to another area and showed us another book. And they actually had sketches of the same exact thing . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . that was ancient.

David: Really?

Emery: I mean, I don’t know how old it was, but it was pretty old because it wasn’t written on paper – this giant sketch scroll that someone, some monk, had drawn.

And it had a lot of physics on it, and it was all in a different language.

So we were able to get a picture of that downloaded, and we got a copy of that book, and we escorted that back to home.

David: Did you get a sense from just what was spoken out loud or translated as to what this thing was or where it had come from, anything that specific?

Emery: No, because once I got back, I was pulled off of that project. All I can tell you is it was, I think, I believe, an intentional device that was put here to help. And then that was it. I’ve never had a part of that project again.

David: When it was in this foreign language, and you said it wasn’t really like a book, what was it on? What did it look like?

Emery: It looked like wax paper.

David: Hm.

Emery: Yeah, and it looked like it was black wax paper. I think you could maybe . . . as you wrote on it, whatever that stuff was would peel off so you could write on it.

David: Hm.

Emery: It looked like something like that.

David: Wow!

Emery: But I wasn’t able to touch it at all, but it was the exact same device – I mean the exact same craft, but it was a lot larger in form. It was probably 10 times larger from this person’s . . . Whoever sketched this, it was 10 times larger than the one we had.

David: So how do you think that idea that we discussed about people starting to be trained as disclosure happens? How do you see that unfolding?

Emery: Well, the first thing that’s going to happen is everyone’s going to want to know where to go.

“I want to be this person. I want to help. I want to know how to grow something overnight – a tomato. You know, I want to know about anti-gravity – how I can make my car float.”

So people are going to want to know right away, and it’s going to be up to the government what kind of information is going to be released to the universities and public, because they’re going to do it correctly.

They are going to do it through probably universities first.

David: Right.

Emery: And hopefully, a lot of the other scientists that are out there will pick up on what they’re doing. And then they’ll be able to live stream it and have a source way to get it to the public, where other people can just start thinking about it, because you have to free-source everything in order to stimulate the entire planet into wanting to do something instead of holding it in universities and saying, “Well, you have to learn this first, and dah, dah, dah, dah.”

David: Right.

Emery: But I think the education part will also be a lot easier in learning this stuff, because with the advent of all these new technologies coming out, also comes out technologies how to learn faster, . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . how to take care of yourself better. You know, a lot of these things are daily things that we do are going to be much simpler.

David: Very cool.

Emery: Yeah.

David: All right. Well, thank you, Emery, for being here. And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, with our special guest, Emery Smith.

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COSMIC DISCLOSURE: THE ANSHAR AND RED-HEADED GIANTS

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David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode.

And where we last left off, he had had a very interesting meeting with the Super Federation, and I guess you thought you were going to go home.

Corey Goode: I did, yes.

David: But that isn’t what happened, was it?

Corey: No. No. Right after this meeting, I ended up in the foyer of the Super Federation base, and it was at that point where I was picked up by a Blue Sphere I thought to bring me home.

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But instead, I ended up in that huge domed area of the Anshar temple complex where I had first appeared well over a year ago when I first met the Anshar.

I appeared there. There was . . . It was bustling.

There were people in line to go into this one opening that went in towards the cleansing ceremony, and I immediately saw Aree and her sister walking towards me with huge grins on their faces.

David: Corey, you are now calling her Aree, and you’ve also mentioned her sister, so could you please clarify why the name change, and who is her sister exactly?

Corey: Aree . . . She’s had me call her that from the beginning. I was continuing to use her full name: Ka’Aree.

Ka . . . She comes from the House of Ka, apparently, her and her sister.

I was doing that to be able to tell who was genuine in saying that they had been in communication with the Anshar.

David: It is interesting to point out that in The Law of One Material, they specifically mention the Ka as a name for the spiritual body that we all have.

Corey: Hm.

David: So that is a direct Law of One reference, interestingly enough.

Corey: Yes.

David: So who is her sister exactly? Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Corey: Yeah. Her sister is very similar to her in just about every way. I’m keeping her name to myself for now.

She’s doing a lot of outreach to people right now on the surface.

David: What specific types of outreach would you say that her sister is doing?

Corey: Well, she’s one of the people that are sitting in these egg-shaped chairs, that I’ve described before, that are networked together between their mass consciousness and ours. They reach out to us in dreams.

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Later on, I get to learn how to use these chairs a little bit more on my visit, and it’s also somewhat of an entertainment for them. But they watch us, observe us, and give us guidance remotely from these chairs.

David: Normally, if people have things appearing in their mind, we would call that schizophrenia or something along these lines.

So what is the dividing line between this guidance and a profound mental illness of somebody “hearing voices”?

Corey: Usually they’re not speaking to people in voices. What they’re doing is . . . I’ll just go ahead and describe:

When you’re in one of these chairs, you can use it to go to any gathering, or place where there’s just one person, and be in the room with them.

You are basically above their shoulders and head looking down on the scene, almost like what people would picture angels doing.

They sit there, and they observe conversations or observe a person working, and if they think, “Oh, I could guide them in this way. This would make this much difference in the timeline and help here and here,” then they do this kind of a “bling” [a sound], where they give the person a download, and it’s like an information package that’s compressed.

And then it decompresses, and people just get all of this flood of ideas, and we call them “downloads”.

David: And it appears as original thought without the people realizing where it came from.

Corey: Exactly.

David: Okay. So you meet Aree and her sister. Could you tell us what happens then? You said they’re really smiling. Did you know why?

Corey: Oh, yeah. It was because of the meeting I had just been at. They were very excited about it.

David: So what happens next at this point?

Corey: They immediately guide me to the corridor that leads out to that huge cavern where the Anshar city used to be.

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If you remember, the city was somehow removed and put into this temporal anomaly.

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David: Right.

Corey: There was one of the Anshar bus craft waiting for us.

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People were boarding it, and Anshar were boarding it, and there were already Anshar on board sitting.

David: About how many were in the craft?

Corey: More than 15.

David: Okay. So it’s pretty crowded.

Corey: We take off, and then we head right into that temporal anomaly.

David: What does it look like as you go into it? What do you see?

Corey: Well, I didn’t get to see anything . . .

David: Oh.

Corey: . . . because it’s like someone turned on this huge magnet next to my head, and my consciousness does this . . . I mean, I kind of pass out and fall to the side, and then I come right to immediately once we get through it.

It’s like just some sort of barrier that affects my consciousness.

David: Hm.

Corey: You can see all the cities laid out all along the sphere. The tops of the buildings are facing towards the center point in the sphere.

David: What do you mean by “the sphere”? Is it a sphere of energy? Is it a cavern?

Corey: It’s a spherical energetic bubble.

David: Oh. Okay.

Corey: And along the inside of the sphere is where all of the cities have been joined together.

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David: Okay.

Corey: So we fly down into the Anshar city area, and we approach some of the huge domed buildings.

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And we land on top of one of them on this . . . it’s almost like a helicopter pad, but it’s larger.

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It’s on top of the building kind of on stilts.

So we disembark from the craft, and we all start heading to this area on the roof that was an area that you walk in, and then there were two oval holes in the floor that are sunk into the wall that go down like tubes.

And each of them began to walk up and stand in those tubes and go down.

As we got closer and closer, it was my turn. I thought it was going to be like a slide you jump in and phew, down you go, but I stood, and there was like a barrier that moved a little bit when I stood on it, and when I looked down, I saw the Anshar that went before me looking up at me.

I saw this part of their face and forehead [Corey motions to the left side of his head] as they kind of disappeared. And then I went down.

It was just like riding an elevator.

David: Did you get any fear of heights or anything just to walk into a hole?

Corey: Yeah. I had an uneasy feeling. Like I said, I thought I was going to . . . I had the feeling . . . My brain was telling me that I was just going to drop.

David: So what happens as you go through this tube, and where do you end up at the bottom?

Corey: Well, we end up at the bottom, and we walk out, and there’s this huge area inside the dome where Anshar are walking around all over the place.

They are wearing all kinds of colorful clothing that is obviously woven. It wasn’t this high-tech type of clothing that I had seen prior.

Anyway, we’re walking through this group of people, all bustling about, going on their way to do whatever they were doing, and we see some of the people walking out, and some of the people coming in, but it’s through like a wall. It looked like people were just walking through the wall.

David: Wow!

Corey: We walked through, and there was a little sticking, kind of a stickiness energy, as we walked through, but we walked through, and we were in a bustling area of people walking around, people flying around like Superman.

David: Really?

Corey: The elders, the people who were much older, will fly around using the technology that they have to fly around like Superman. But everyone else was walking around like we would at a mall.

David: Well, now is it a technology, or is it like telekinesis? Is it some kind of psychic ability they have to do that?

Corey: It’s a technology.

David: Really? Well, it must have been impressive to see, I would imagine.

Corey: Yeah, it was, because you would see people coming down and lifting . . . just, I mean, like Superman.

David: Why do you think only the elders were able to do this or allowed to do this or something?

Corey: The elders . . . they looked different than the rest of the Anshar.

I was told that it’s not uncommon for fourth density and other types of beings as they age, they get taller and skinnier, and this, apparently, is what happens with them. They grow another two or so feet, and they get very, very thin, very frail, and their skin gets even whiter. And they had wrinkles all around their lips and around their eyes.

David: I want to point out something so bizarre, which is: I had this call from Pete Peterson where he starts telling me about these Nordics that he had encountered when he was in there, and he said exactly the same thing, that they go through three growth phases.

The third growth phase causes them to get taller and skinnier.

Corey: Another thing that I saw that they wore is they wear an eye protection. Their eyes get very sensitive.

We walked to a building that was a building for Aree’s family group and the offshoots of her family group. They were all together in this big building.

I was brought to the area where her family group lives, and I was shown a room, a small room, that had been set up for me to sleep in. I was going to be there for a while.

David: Wow.

Corey: She brought me to the bed that was created for me, because they don’t use beds.

David: Well, hold on a minute. They don’t use beds why? What do they do instead of sleeping?

Corey: They do some type of cycle that lasts like 45 or 50 minutes every several days. They don’t have a sleep cycle.

David: They don’t need to lie down when they do that cycle?

Corey: No. They sit in the chairs.

David: Okay.

Corey: So on this bed, the first thing I see are three shirts, three pairs of khaki slacks, and a bunch of toiletries, just strewn out.

The clothes look like they were from like JCPenney’s in the 1980s. It was blue, just regular, blue polo shirts and khaki pants, no belt, and they had underwear, deodorant.

So I saw all of this, and I realized they were going to have me there a little bit longer than they ever had before.

David: Wow!

Corey: And sure enough, I ended up doing two sleep cycles when I was there, two full sleep cycles, so I was there probably about three days.

David: Was this the size of like a small dormitory room, or did it have some space to it? What was your room like?

Corey: No, it was very small. It was probably eight feet by six feet.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: But, I mean, I wouldn’t spend much time in there.

David: Obviously, you’re going to need to eat something. So what was the food that they provided?

Corey: The food was all vegetarian, of course, a lot of raw vegetables, and a lot of interesting sweet cakes that they made out of vegetables that were really good.

David: Would you say it’s the best stuff you’ve ever tasted in your life, or was it just okay?

Corey: To be honest, it was kind of bland.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. It was just . . . I mean, there was no seasoning. They were just eating raw vegetables, and they didn’t eat that much, and they didn’t eat that often.

David: Did you get the sense that you were being fed the same things that they were . . .

Corey: Yeah.

David: . . . or did they have to modify it?

Corey: No. I was sitting, eating along with them.

David: Where you were sitting, did it look at all familiar to what we would have as like a cafeteria table or something?

Corey: Yeah. It was a cafeteria.

David: Really?

Corey: Right. They had a commons area, a large commons area. The roof was higher. It was about two stories high. And then they had private areas where they had private . . . areas where they could have their own . . . kind of like a room, but they didn’t really spend much time in them.

David: So if you need to eat more often than they do, would they bring you to this cafeteria and then not have food, or would they always eat with you?

Corey: I only ate three times.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. But, I mean, you’ve seen how I am anyway since I went over to being a vegetarian. I ate one, maybe two very small meals a day, very small.

The food was very high in nutrients, obviously, because, I mean, you immediately felt a pickup from the food . . .

David: Wow!

Corey: . . . when you ate it.

David: So it was energized somehow?

Corey: Yeah, but it tasted like normal vegetables.

David: At some point, you’re going to have to be asking yourself: “They bring me into this bedroom. They give me these weird, old clothes.”

I would imagine you would be turning to them and saying, “Guys, I thought I was going home. What’s going on here? Why do I have to be here long enough to sleep over? What’s your agenda here? What’s happening to me?”

Corey: Well, Aree told me that I was being given a gift basically, that I was being allowed to spend time with her family group, and also go through the preparations to go with them to this base outside of Saturn to meet this “Council at Saturn”, as they call them.

So, you know, I got to spend a lot of time with these people.

I was told not to touch anyone – to keep my distance.

David: Which is exactly what Pete Peterson said too, interestingly.

Corey: Right. When I first arrived, they stood a good distance away and weren’t being that friendly, but they saw Aree . . . When I first got there, she took me by the arm, touched me and took me by the arm and guided me to show me where I was going to be staying.

After that, it had an impact on the people. They started getting closer and closer, started asking me questions, talking to me. They were very curious about the surface world.

David: Let me just ask you one thing that might clear some misunderstandings up for our audience.

People might be inclined to think that these beings are interdimensional, and that, therefore, they would be like ghosts to us, and, therefore, if you were going to go there, that you would have to be like a ghost.

Corey: These are not higher dimensional or different dimensional beings. These are us from the future.

They traveled back into time to preserve their timeline. They are flesh and blood just like us.

So after the first day, the children and the other people started coming closer and closer in, spending time with me, close enough to where I could touch them, but I didn’t.

At some point, there was kind of a parting of the waves, people were getting out of the way, and I look up across the room, and there’s Gonzales. He looks very haggard. He looks beat.

He sees me, and he starts to walk across, and I meet him, and he just drops into one of the chairs.

I go over to one of the chairs, and I sit in it, and I mentally guide it over, the way they showed me how to do, over next to him, and asked him, what are you doing here? What’s going on?

David: So you can steer the chair around just with your thought and move it to different areas?

Corey: Easily.

David: So you zip over to Gonzales’s chair, and then what happens?

Corey: If you remember, Gonzales got to spend a lot of time with the Anshar. He was actually staying with them in their city at one point.

David: Right.

Corey: And as a part of the work he was doing while there, he was working with this race of giants, a red-haired, six-fingered race of giants.

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He was starting to make some headway with them when he was basically kicked out by the Anshar for his behavior.

David: Now, we have enormous numbers of records of giant skeletons that have been found all over the Earth. Are those red-haired giants related to them somehow?

Corey: They are.

David: In what way?

Corey: Well, let me just go ahead and tell you what occurred.

David: Okay.

Corey: Gonzales said that for the better part of a year, if not more, he’s been working with the red-haired giants. He’d been trying to get them to accept some of the healing technologies from the Mayans.

However, they have been refusing any type of help from the Mayans, thinking it was some sort of leverage for them to say that . . .

[The] Secret Space Program Alliance and the Mayans have, at times, rescued red-haired giants from various places on the planet and brought them to this sanctuary.

“We don’t want the healing until you can get our royal family, basically, that’s being held by the Cabal in a base.”

David: Okay. Well, there’s kind of a lot of questions that that raises.

Corey: Yeah, and it doesn’t make sense for them to make a demand like that.

David: I was under the impression that the red-haired giants died off completely. There’s none of them on the surface of the Earth now.

Corey: There are none of them on the surface of the Earth now.

David: So then why are we talking about them as if they still exist? That’s the part I . . .

Corey: Because they do.

David: Okay.

Corey: At one point, they controlled a huge area of North and Central America. These beings are genetic creations of this Pre-Adamite race, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . you know, that was in Antarctica. They created these giants to manage humans, their slave population of humans.

After the cataclysm occurred, and the Pre-Adamites were basically wiped off the face of the Earth, or so we thought, these giants had to fend for themselves.

And during this time, they were eating humans. They were causing a lot of problems.

After a number of years after this cataclysm, when humans started to organize again, they started going out in hunting parties and killing off these giants.

So the giants had to go underground, and they went deep, deep into the bowels of the Earth into some of these ecosystems deep in the ground that we’ve told you about, or that we’ve talked about on “Cosmic Disclosure” before.

David: So what we’re then seeing is: We have American Indian tribes going after the red-haired giants. We have people in Europe and Asia going after the giants, and they retreated to underground areas?

Corey: Caverns with ecosystems.

David: Okay.

Corey: Their health suffered because they didn’t have the nutrients they needed, the sunlight. They were eating what was down there, and it was affecting their health not in a positive way. They were getting thinner and thinner.

They hunted one species, a humanoid species, that lived in the Inner Earth, into extinction, because they became very fond of the taste of them, and they wreaked havoc on a few other of the beings that were down . . .

David: Would they look just like one of us only larger, or is there something unusual about the shape of their face or their head?

Corey: Yeah, they have big foreheads, big thick jaws, double rows of teeth. They would not fit in and look like just a large human.

David: So even if you shrank them down to our size, they’d look very, very different?

Corey: Right.

David: Interesting. So they live in these underground areas. They’re essentially wiping out other underground populations of humanoids you’re saying.

Corey: Right. Well, what finally ended up happening in their history is that some of their royal caste helped them start to get it together, as they say.

They were a mess when they were refugees under the ground. So they found areas that would sustain a small population. They controlled their number, their population numbers, and some of the royal caste and religious caste of these giants went to various stasis chambers and put themselves into stasis.

David: I’m just curious now about when we look at the records of their civilization in the Americas, we find the so-called “mound builders”, and there’s always these dirt mounds that are kind of pyramid-shaped.

People would dig into the mounds, and they’d find giant skeletons inside. So the giant skeletons and the mounds are always one and the same thing.

So it seems that these people had some desire to keep building pyramids. Why do you think that is?

Corey: Well, the giants were the ones that were supposedly directing humans, or controlling humans, when they were building out the infrastructure and cities for the Pre-Adamites.

So maybe, I’m speculating, these giants were, I guess, the foreman on these jobs, and they were making sure that the human slaves were completing the jobs.

David: The mounds that people dug into, we never really saw any type of written books or . . . How literate do you think they were? Did the flood affect them so badly that they . . .

Corey: Yes.

David: . . . lost a lot of their language?

Corey: They lost everything.

David: Really?

Corey: Right. They were in the same boat as the humans. Everything was lost. So . . .

David: Then how would they know about these caverns under the ground if they’re essentially now illiterate?

Corey: Well, they were forced down in. They were forced to go in and explore and find these areas.

David: Okay.

Corey: What finally happened is they got their people together, the giants, and they said, “Okay, we have these little pockets of areas that will sustain this number. So maintain these numbers. We’re going to go into stasis, and when we pop out, that way we will be as strong and as powerful as we are now.

“And when we pop out during the time of these great energetic changes, we will be more useful.”

But what happened is . . . There was over 130 of these beings spread out in these stasis chambers. And mostly what has happened is the Cabal has located these stasis chambers, awakened the giants, and then moved them to prisons inside bases.

David: Well, I thought you said before that when people tried to access these stasis chambers that they would get stuck, and they wouldn’t be able to move through. There was like a gravitational field.

So how could the Cabal actually awaken anyone? I thought nobody could get in there.

Corey: Well, they CAN’T get in, but they have harmonic ways of turning off and controlling that technology.

David: Oh, really? Interesting.

Corey: They found enough of them, broken and working . . . They know how they work very well. They know the mechanics of them.

These sanctuaries . . . The people had survived physically, but mentally, they were completely checked out, these giants.

He said, surprisingly, he was able to relate with them and had more headway with them before he went through his transformation, because they were so psychologically messed up and traumatized that he can’t reason with them hardly.

Now – and he was telling me this as he was in the chair – he said, now, after he’s gone through this transformation from what he was before, that they just will not relate with him at all.

David: So let me see if I got this. They go to sleep. They think they’re going to wake up and be kings over their people, 130 of these you said, but they wake up and now they’re prisoners.

So that’s got to be very jarring for them, I would think.

Corey: Yes.

David: Do they experience it just like they knitted together two points in time, or do they feel like they were gone for a really long time?

Corey: The ones that were in stasis, it’s just like they went to sleep and woke up.

David: Wow! So this sudden loss of power you’re saying has caused them to be very, very distraught.

Corey: Well, those are the ones that were in stasis. The ones that were living generation to generation in these ecosystems deep in the Earth, they were the ones that were the most traumatized.

David: Oh.

Corey: Gonzales said that he was just unable to relate with them. He kept saying, “We can help you. We can bring you these healing technologies.”

They’re like, “No! First, you bring us our royal families and others” who are in, basically, prison, Cabal prisons, “then we will accept the healing”.

You know, that makes no sense whatsoever, but they are just gone up there.

David: The people that are living inside the Earth that have been there the whole time, do they have any awareness of what our civilization is like on the surface, or are they so cut off that they really have no idea who we are when we would come in and capture them, basically?

Corey: Most of them are cut off, but some of them would do recon missions up to the surface from time to time and have encounters with usually human military.

David: Hm.

Corey: So they had an idea of how out of control they were now.

David: Did they have any communications systems that allowed them to be able to talk to different groups in different areas?

Corey: I was told that they were utilizing some ancient technology below ground that allowed them to communicate here and there.

But Gonzales was really frustrated. He kind of got a twinkle in his eye when he told me that these giants were not relating with him anymore after his change.

And he looked at me, and he said, “How would you like to go down there?”

And I was like, “Ah, not my job, buddy. That’s your job.”

David: Go down to where these giants are?

Corey: Right. He said, “Come on, this would not be the first time you had a meeting with someone that wanted to eat you.”

David: Where were these sites? Did you get any specific information about where were these underground sites that they had relocated to?

Corey: Yeah. It was in the Anshar area. As a matter of fact, Gonzales found out about them because the Anshar were being secretive and going off into this cavern area where there was a solid wall they were walking through, and he found a way, after weeks, to scurry around and find a little hole that he could peek through to see where they were going to.

He saw the Anshar meeting with red-haired giants that were just moaning and crying and sounded horrible.

It was soon after that, that he was, I guess, read in and started to meet with them before the Anshar kicked him out.

David: So we are essentially out of time for this episode, but I’m interested just to get your speculation as to how these giants fit into the overall picture of Ascension and us transforming into beings like the Anshar.

What do you think is the reason why you’re being shown this stuff?

Corey: The reason I think it’s occurring is that these beings, even though they’re created and they did evil things, karmically we’re all connected.

And just like the Blue Avians were wanting to move to the next octave, but they couldn’t because we were acting like a parachute, because they had karmic ties to us, that’s kind of the same thing going on with all these other beings.

We all kind of lift each other up and move together, or no one does.

David: At some point, you and Gonzales must have finished this conversation about the giants. So what happened next?

Corey: Aree and her sister visited with Gonzales and I for a while. And some of the Anshar gathered around us . . . were keeping a little bit more distance from Gonzales than they were from me at this point.

At this point, Aree’s sister said, “It’s time for us to prepare for meeting the new Guardians. And everyone was very excited.

So we started winding down the conversation. Some of the elders invited me to come back and stay for a longer period of time . . . later, months from now.

David: What did they call you when this was going on?

Corey: They called me the Hanush.

David: Really?

Corey: Yes.

David: Okay.

Corey: Everyone kind of got together in the commons area to say goodbye.

And we said “Goodbye”. We followed the same route back to get onto the Anshar craft on top of the domed building, and then we flew out of the anomaly.

David: Hm. Did anything else happen before you actually went home?

Corey: Yes. I didn’t actually get to go home . . .

David: Oh!

Corey: . . . still. We landed the Anshar bus craft, walked back into the temple complex, and, again, there were even more lines of people heading into the tunnel system that led back to where the cleansing room is that I described before.

Aree and her sister walked me and Gonzales past the line. We walked past everyone, walked up to the front, and we did the cleansing ceremony.

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I folded my clothes, and I was going to put them next to Gonzales’s on this pedestal that was in a half moon, semi-circle configuration in that room, in the cleansing room, but Aree had a satchel over her shoulder, a light brown satchel, and she opened it up and held it out for me and indicated that I should put my clothes in there.

I was looking around, and I saw representatives from all seven of the Inner Earth groups that I had met the first time I was there.

David: Now, did they wear the same kind of amulets as when you first saw them?

Corey: Yes. They were wearing the amulets and white tunics.

David: Interesting. Well, that’s all the time we have in this episode. I want to thank you, Corey. It’s very fascinating information. And I want to thank you for watching.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode.

Tom DeLonge Group Stunningly Debunked: Curtains for Partial Disclosure?

Source: Divine Cosmos

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Tom DeLonge’s CIA and other intel advisors used a picture of a mylar party balloon from 2005 as if it was a genuine UFO, and raised over 2.2 million dollars in funding from the event featuring it.

There was widespread suspicion of this “mainstream-media-sanctioned disclosure” in the UFO community, and it was just proven correct.

Someone within the group obviously knew this was a fake image. We do not feel Tom DeLonge was in on it, and his silence suggests he must be very upset at this point.

With the formerly-invincible Cabal on the ropes like never before, perhaps this ‘disclosure’ was just too easy. No one was fighting and dying to make this happen, and the media toed the line.

The members of this group completely “ghosted” the UFO community at large, hardly granting any access whatsoever to the people on the front lines of the disclosure movement.

Weirdest of all was how little anyone in the public was affected by it.

UFOs? Been there, done that.

What will real disclosure look like now that the credibility of this operation has been shattered? It’s going to be grassroots all the way.

 

A STUNNING TURN OF EVENTS

We covered the Tom DeLonge disclosure, including the events of October 11th and December 16th, 2017, in six different articles:

ENDGAME: Disclosure and the Final Defeat of the Cabal (December 6, 2016)

Vegas Terror and Disclosure: Is Something Very Big About to Happen? (October 10, 2017)

Stunning New Briefings: Mass Indictments, Targeted Arrests and Disclosure (December 25, 2017)

ET Autopsy Insider Emery Smith Hit With Massive Attack After Coming Forward (December 28, 2017)

Corey Goode Mega-Update: Ancient Builder Race- Recovering Humanity’s Billion-Year Legacy (January 11, 2018)

 

ENTICING, IF NOT IRRESISTIBLE

This was enticing, if not irresistible ‘bait’ for the UFO community at large.

You have a cadre of new insiders coming forward, saying they have the goods: anti-gravity technology from Lockheed SkunkWorks, films of UFOs in flight, and a photo of that same UFO.

 

 

Now we know that indeed it is “clearly not an experimental US aircraft.”

Instead, their alleged UFO was a photo of a phallic mylar balloon taken by Steve Mera and posted online in 2005.

 

 

You can buy a silver balloon just like it here on Amazon for as little as seven dollars and 98 cents.

But wait, there’s more: here you can get the same one for just one easy payment of $5.99… but only while supplies last.

 

 

What kind of Return on Investment or ROI would you get if you could use a six-dollar balloon to raise 2.2 million dollars?

Certainly a lot more than the stock market at this point, which went into free-fall immediately after the release of the damning FISA memo:

 

 

This epic “debunking” allowed the online skeptic community to sing with joy once again, parading their fundamentalist beliefs that “There Is No Evidence.”

 

JIMMY CHURCH SPILLED THE BEANS

Jimmy Church alerted me to this in a phone call we had yesterday. He insisted that I sit down before he tell me, and it was definitely a good idea.

He has outed the whole scandal on his Facebook page on February 7th after having been a direct Tom DeLonge supporter:

 

 

OK… so, in the interest of transparency… Tom DeLonge’s ‘Tic Tac’ UFO was NOT photographed by the US Navy off the coast of San Diego in 2004… but was shot in Manchester UK in 2005…

Here are the two images side by side… and the ORIGINAL article that was posted in 2005… with four additional images.

Something doesn’t smell right to me… I’ve sent everything to DeLonge and his team and I’m waiting for a response… but one thing is for sure… the UFO community will police itself.

Read the original article… look at the images… and post your comments below… things are about to get interesting… somebody has been played… not sure who… but I want answers.

Steve Mera, who posted the original article in 2005 now says that it was a metallic party balloon…. hmmmmm… here we go!!!

Original 2005 article:
http://www.rense.com/general67/ufoph.htm

 

ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING…. AS LONG AS….

Our December 25th article went into far more detail about the DeLonge event than the others, and gave this event favorable coverage.

I recommend reading it if you are not familiar with this case… including the awesome scope of coverage it earned in the mainstream media.

As I said at the time, any disclosure is better than nothing.

Now we have to put a caveat on that statement: “Any disclosure is better than nothing… as long as it isn’t blatantly fraudulent.”

 

PARTIAL DISCLOSURE AND PODESTA

Our Alliance insiders had consistently been warning us that this enormous media event was all part of an attempt to create a “Partial Disclosure” that the Cabal hoped would save them from defeat.

The Cabal folks were only intending to use disclosure as a “Weapon of Mass Distraction” when their backs were really up against the wall.

Deception would be at the very root of such a plan, if the real goal was to obfuscate the existence of the Secret Space Program and other hyper-classified projects.

The credibility of the entire initiative was heavily damaged by the Wikileaks email dump of October 2016, when it was revealed that DeLonge had worked directly with John Podesta on this plan.

 

 

 

THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT

I wanted to give DeLonge the benefit of the doubt, and still do. I have felt he might be “in over his head” on this all along, and I was willing to help.

The only way to truly assess the value of your insiders is to consult with others who have been in contact with even more insiders, for an even longer period of time.

The truth emerges when you do the broadest-level analysis of who is out there and what they are saying, all independently of one another.

Linda Moulton Howe has been doing this for well over 35 years, and I have been doing it for 22 years. Neither of us were ever invited to be involved.

DeLonge was made very well aware through direct insiders that I would speak with him, and nonetheless completely refused all contact.

 

WHO ARE “THEY?”

On December 13th, 2017, DeLonge revealed in a tweet that an unidentified “they” was in complete control of the timing of the release of the event:

 

 

I do feel it is important, now more than ever, for him to really think about what is happening here, how this alleged ‘mistake’ was made, and why.

No one wants to be a Lee Harvey Oswald figure in a Deep State attempt to kill Full Disclosure, but this entire event is starting to appear that way for DeLonge.

The biggest problem is that if you knowingly raise a great deal of money under false pretenses, you are dealing with high-level fraud and criminality.

 

TWO MILLION, TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM TWO THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS

On December 20th, it was announced that this initiative had raised a staggering 2.2 million dollars from only two thousandindividual investors:

12/20: Tom DeLonge’s To The Stars Academy Crosses $2M Mark

In case you are ready to dismiss these efforts, stop and ponder this: The academy has already attracted more than $2.2 million in funding from 2,000 individual investors.

 

Who are these two thousand individuals, exactly? This adds up to a shocking average of $1,100 dollars per person.

By contrast, our grassroots Pete Peterson fundraiser, beginning on August 18, 2017, ended by our own choosing in one month, at $53,560 from 1,128 of you.

This was only 872 fewer people than the DeLonge group’s fundraiser attracted in more than twice the amount of time.

However, if you do the math, our “real world” fundraiser generated an average of $47 dollars and 48 cents per person — for which we are extremely grateful:

 

 

Real people can and will step up for a heroic cause, and the shattered economy has made this a truly noble sacrifice.

Our “Real World Index” of what people can give is $1,050 less than what each person was sending to the DeLonge group.

Nonetheless, it is pretty amazing that we got this close to DeLonge’s number of fundraisers in half the time… with no help from the mainstream media (MSM) whatsoever.

Furthermore, everyone on our core team of insiders has suffered severely, including death threats, as we have taken on the Cabal that still controls the MSM.

This has painfully continued right through to the present.

 

THE REAL STORY IS THE IMPENDING ARREST OF THE DEEP STATE

Please don’t let this stunning collapse of the DeLonge group upset you.

If we were dealing with a Deep State “Partial Disclosure” initiative all along, then it is inevitable that they would have built a “failsafe” into it from the beginning.

They may have hoped that no one would identify the alleged UFO photo as a mylar balloon until they “needed” to destroy the entire mission.

Just envision a case where this planned “Partial Disclosure” had done its work in distracting the public.

Let’s say the Deep State had then been able to re-assert power, such as through false flag events and the public defeat of key opponents.

Then, by revealing the true provenance of the original photo in a carefully-staged media event, they could then destroy the entire disclosure movement.

Therefore, I feel this was not an “accident” at all. It was a deliberately-planted demolition charge. And it has obviously detonated prematurely.

Now the whole “House of Cards” behind it can come tumbling down.

 

 

13,605 SEALED INDICTMENTS AND COUNTING

A tweet on January 28th, 2018 from Dan Martin 32 revealed some stunning new hints of the scope of mass arrests that are now heading our way.

Just between December 26, 2017 and January 26, 2018, fully four thousand, three hundred and eleven more sealed indictments were added to the list.

That adds up to a shocking total of thirteen thousand, six hundred and five (13,605) sealed indictments on the books right now.

Anyone can check this for themselves on PACER.gov, where all such indictments must be cataloged, whether sealed or unsealed:

 

 

The implications of this are absolutely staggering, since the average per year is usually not more than one or two thousand. It was specifically 1,077 in 2009, as Martin indicated.

 

THE DECEMBER 21ST EXECUTIVE ORDER AND STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH

As we covered in Stunning New Briefings on Christmas Day, the December 21st executive order was crafted by the Alliance, and paved the way for mass arrests of Deep State agents:

 

12/21: Declaration of National Emergency For Serious Human Rights Abuses Worldwide

TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES:

Pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), I hereby report that I have issued the enclosed Executive Order (the “order”) declaring a national emergency with respect to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States posed by serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world….

The order blocks the property and interests in property of persons listed in the Annex to the order. It also blocks the property and interests in property of any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General:

(1) to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in, serious human rights abuse;

(2) to be a current or former government official, or a person acting for or on behalf of such an official, who is responsible for or complicit in, or has directly or indirectly engaged in:

(a) corruption, including the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources, or bribery; or

(b) the transfer or the facilitation of the transfer of the proceeds of corruption….

 

THEN ADD THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS

This was further bolstered by the following words that were included in the recent State of the Union address:

“I call on the Congress to empower every Cabinet secretary with the authority to reward good workers and toremove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people.”

The significance of this statement was underlined by Q Anon on 4Chan, in post number 647:

 

 

THE FISA MEMO AND THE RESULTING MARKET COLLAPSE

The FISA memo was released on February 2nd, 2018, just two days after the above Q Anon post.

In short, the memo revealed that the entire “Russiagate” and resulting “Fake News” campaign was, in and of itself, fake news — and other more damning memos have been promised.

Though you may be saying “so what, everyone knows they are corrupt,” the point is that this memo directly paves the way for arrests to follow — legally.

Simultaneously, on the very same day the memo emerged, the Dow Jones stock market index was collapsed by precisely 666 points.

 

 

 

A VERY DISTURBING RELIGION

As we have said before, the top Deep State people actually do practice a strange and disturbing religion most of us would think of as Satanism.

This includes rape, torture and sacrifice of adults and children at the highest levels — a full embrace of the idea of “devil worship” if ever there was one.

The October 2016 Wikileaks emails made this very clear.

We summarized all the gruesome details in ENDGAME: Disclosure and the Final Defeat of the Cabal, on December 6, 2016.

[Thankfully, Alliance efforts have led to the arrest of over 40,000 child traffickers in 2017, according to our insiders. This has nearly destroyed the Deep State rings.]

It would be entirely within the capability of the Deep State to orchestrate a precise sell-off, tweaking it minute by minute, to achieve this desired result.

They seem to be overplaying their hand on this, as they recently “cooked the books” to give the US a 666 billion-dollar deficit on October 20th, 2017.

 

 

A DIZZYING BLOODBATH

The markets have continued going through a dizzying bloodbath in the following week since the FISA memo and the markets both droppped:

 

February 5, 2018

 

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Simultaneously, we have Alliance assets in the UK targeting the formerly-untouchable arch-conspirator George Soros with front-page attacks:

2/8: George Soros Backing Secret Plot to Thwart Brexit

 

Remember that “Brexit” means the UK pulls its money and support out of the EU and its currency, the Euro.

If the UK does pull out, it is expected to trigger a “domino effect” that will collapse the EU and its “New World Order” plans of mass poverty and starvation.

 

THEIR FINAL MOVE

The current market collapse appears to be the beginning of exactly what we had expected would happen when the Deep State was very close to being defeated.

If the Partial Disclosure effort couldn’t save them, their final move is to attempt to throw the world into chaos through an orchestrated financial collapse.

Since their religion requires them to “hide it out in the open,” they revealed that this was an orchestrated collapse by starting it off at negative 666.

This extreme turbulence is the main headline story right as we are about to publish this article on Friday, February 9th:

 

2/9: Dow Bounces More Than 300 Points Friday, Worst Week in Two Years

 

 

Remember that any market downturn typically has voltatile “whipsawing” movements as it gets started.

This is due to investors thinking that recently-devalued stocks are a great profit opportunity, and throwing large investments into them.

 

THIRTEEN THOUSAND SEALED INDICTMENTS, THIRTEEN THOUSAND NEW PRISONERS FOR GUATANAMO

Another intriguing angle worth considering was recently made public by ex-NSA whistleblower Jim Stone.

He pointed his audience to the following link: https://www.neco.navy.mil/synopsis/detail.aspx?id=485890.

Now, when you click on it, this is what you get:

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: SECRETS AT THE SOUTH POLE

Source: Cosmic Disclosure

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here with our special guest, Emery Smith.

Emery, thank you for being here.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Appreciate it.

David: In our previous episode, we talked a little about how military bases are being built over extraterrestrial bases or crashed craft. And we had started to talk a little bit about what you may know regarding Antarctica.

So just to get more specific with you, according to Pete Peterson, operations in Antarctica have been ongoing for quite some time.

He was aware of it being back to at least the 1950s. And he said that it is a truly vast operation that’s being conducted down there.

So could you speak a little bit more about what you know of what’s going on in Antarctica?

Emery: I have recently met with four of the scientists that were part of that expedition, well, many expeditions in the past few years – in Costa Rica recently.

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And what was interesting is there’s also another craft that is part of some of the craft that’s down THERE [Antarctica] in a cave down near Costa Rica, I’ll say.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: And so this group was asking me to come with them to Antarctica to check it out on another expedition, which I refrained to go because all newbies don’t return.

David: Really?

Emery: So that’s how dangerous it is.

David: Hm!

Emery: And any people that go down there to do documentaries or try to get with people to take them down there usually end up pretty much not coming back.

David: Wow!

Emery: So right now, if you don’t have a specific, really good classification, you’re not going down there.

So that does leave it open to satellites, however, and special drones that we have access to to find out more information.

Different organizations are funding this, private organizations, because the people want to know.

And so this information was given to me strictly from the four scientists that actually came from working there for two years, which they do have the access to get back down in there to do what they do, which is basically . . . Well, I was talking about mapping and measuring of the melting ice and how much time they have before other things are exposed, which lead to the exposure of the underground city that’s there that has been there for a very long time, apparently.

David: Are you familiar with there being any plan to reveal ancient ruins under the ice in Antarctica, but not spacecraft at first or anything more modern, as part of a gradual disclosure agenda?

Emery: They already started that. So they’re saying there’s something down there, a big void, just like they did in Egypt now. There’s a big void underneath the pyramids there.

We have a very, very large city that’s there.

David: In Egypt?

Emery: In Egypt, under the pyramids, about a mile high dome.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes, it’s very large.

So this is the same thing that’s going on in Antarctica.

So they’re slowly saying, “Wow, through satellite imagery with special ground-penetrating radar, certain scientists from . . .”, which have nothing to do with trying to find bases, by the way – more like trying to find oil reservoirs and gold – have stumbled upon these giant voids. So you’re going to start hearing about this.

These voids are the ancient cities. You know, these are the ones that have been here for a very long time. This is right up your alley with all the stuff that you talk about.

And there has been great camera footage taken from an archaeologist that we know. And we have seen this footage. And it is compelling because the camera they snake down under the pyramid to see this, when it first was discovered, which I cannot disclose, was just fascinating.

David: Hm!

Emery: So the same thing is going on in Antarctica now is: how are we going to disclose this and clean up all the artifacts down there, which will really mess up the story of how we got here . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . kind of like Mars and the Moon and everything else. And it’s right here on this planet.

David: All of a sudden in the media, we hear this report that neutrinos were used to discover a very large new chamber in the Great Pyramid above the Grand Gallery, which is the big hallway with the tall . . .

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Emery: That’s right.

David: And they’re kind of saying it might be on a diagonal with the Grand Gallery, . . .

Emery: Correct.

David: . . . but it’s a little higher.

Emery: Right.

David: And that’s a very large, previously undisclosed space.

Emery: I’ve heard about that.

David: Now, with the technology you’re reporting, it would appear that they would have known about this for a long time.

Emery: Oh, they’ve known about it for a very long time.

David: Have people been into that room that you know of?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. And that’s what the Alliance needs to decide is: what do we release and how slow do we release it? So there’s a gradual scientific, huge, worldwide, scientific investigation of these tablets or this or that or whatnot, because it doesn’t match what’s going on or what we’ve been taught here.

And that’s going to be the hard thing for people to grasp because of the belief systems that we all have.

David: Do you think that there might be a way . . .I mean, they don’t want to tear up the pyramid, right? They’re very concerned about antiquities preservation. But now we’re talking about a massive, massive chamber inside the pyramid openly discussed in mainstream media.

Emery: Right.

David: So is there a way into that room already? Do we know what’s in that room?

Emery: I’m 80% sure they’ve already been in that room from the bottom up. There are tunnels that they have already dug under into this city, so it’s already been . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: They’re learning what happened. You know, they’re trying to learn the texts, learn all the symbols, and what’s it all mean?

And so it’s a huge undertaking on the private side of whoever is running that contract job. I can tell you that much.

David: Just for the sake of people’s curiosity, what might be some of the most surprising things that we would learn?

Like, what would we actually see if we ever get to see the footage of this room? What would be the most surprising thing we would discover?

Emery: Well, you’re going to discover a lot of literature and tablets, and also artifacts that are not from on Earth – not of Earth-origin technology – which most of it has been removed.

David: Wow!

Emery: Whether they want to say it was found with the site or not, it will be a spectable because it has to do with someone already being there trying to do the same thing we were doing about a higher, advanced civilization, and they left some things behind.

So there’s special scientists in the world who grab these devices, and they can figure out what the devices were used for. That’s what their job is to do.

And they’re really interesting people, and they’re responsible. They’re the unseen heroes you hear about.

But a lot of the information that they get is usually used to give to these private corporations to be used for bad because it’s so amazing. Why give it to us to help us cure cancer or be able to talk to anyone in the universe?

David: I want to bring something up with you that I think is directly relevant, and that is an insider that Pete Peterson has hoped to get me in touch with – it hasn’t actually happened yet – but this person was involved in the excavation of a strange sort of metallic alloy sarcophagus from this same Giza Plateau area. And I believe he said it was underground.

And they removed the sarcophagus, and they had it . . . They were trying to figure out how to get it open, and they couldn’t open it with tools.

And apparently on the ship – they were transporting it on a U.S. military ship of some kind – someone telepathically interfaced with this sarcophagus, and they could read the inscriptions. Even though originally it was a different language, they could read the language.

And then they had to sing a certain note or phrase. I can’t remember which it was . . .

Emery: A harmonic, yeah.

David: And you put your hands out like this and it opened.

And then what they found inside were these various kind of hand-held tools. And some of the tools, apparently, would give you holographic reconstructions of historical events that happened during the time of the people that had this thing.

Emery: Sure. Oh, yes.

David: And that sarcophagus alone is just of inestimable value. Have you ever heard any stories like that?

Emery: Yes, I have heard of very similar stories of these sarcophagi and coffins and tubes that are made of some unknown metal but they’re seamless.

David: Wow!

Emery: And they can only be opened, as far as I knew, by lineage, actually, and harmonic. So that’s interesting you said that, because it actually helps me understand some things now put together that I’ve been debriefed on.

And I’ve seen some of these vats, actually.

David: What about this idea of an object that you might be able to hold in your hand, and then you can kind of talk to it with your mind . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . and it will show you, like, a library?

Emery: Absolutely. It’s a consciousness-assisted technology that you have to hold and use your consciousness. You know, you have to think about it, and then whatever, however it operates – however, the operator knows how to operate it.

Or usually, it just automatically will turn on. You know, it’s like having an iPhone without a passcode on it. Automatically anyone can use it.

But some of these devices, these consciousness-assisted technologies, are all lineage-related or frequency-related, so that you have to be of the right ancient lineage to hold that one little frequency for this thing to work.

David: A genetic marker in your DNA, do you think?

Emery: Yes. Yes.

David: Wow! Really?

Emery: Yeah.

David: When we had Pete Peterson here last time, he gave us some extremely fascinating information about very, very long – many, many miles long – perfectly carved tunnels in South America, like, underneath the Nazca Lines.

And he talked about what appeared to have been a vast extraterrestrial city down there. And, of course, with our show on Gaia, “Unearthing Nazca”, Pete is claiming that the bodies we had on that show were from this city.

So I’m curious if you’ve heard about those tunnels in Meso- and South America, and any information you might have on that.

Emery: Yes. My scientist sources also have invited me down there to analyze the tunnels, which have a lot of craft in them, which have . . . The tunnels actually have beings frozen in time sticking out of the walls of these things.

David: Have you ever heard the term “stasis beings”?

Emery: Yes. I mean, I don’t personally believe these beings that come from Gaia are from that site.

David: Okay.

Emery: But that’s my own opinion. And I have not been asked to analyze these beings yet.

David: Okay. So you’re saying that there are . . . This is totally amazing, Emery. I’m just going to be honest with you. And the reason why is that I got another briefing from Pete. I haven’t said a word about it to anyone.

I’m going to do it for the first time right now, okay?

And the briefing was that, because Gaia did “Unearthing Nazca”, the show, that our Alliance people have gotten a lot more interested in that area again, and that apparently the Mexican government . . . We have the Peruvian government . . . We have different governments in Meso- and South America, apparently involved in this.

And apparently, very recently, we took custody of these five different craft, and he said that they are so advanced that we’ve got whole teams of people . . . He estimated 2,000~3,000 people are working on these craft now. But it’s so advanced we have no idea how to get into it or what the heck is going on.

So I’m curious about your thoughts on that.

Emery: Yeah, I agree with that. But when you say “we”, who are you referring to who took over the five craft?

David: I guess it would be . . .

Emery: The Alliance or . . .

David: DIA military-industrial complex, what we would call MIC Secret Space Program folk.

Emery: Okay. That I can confirm 100%. They are now in control of all the tunnels and all the ships and all the bodies and all the technology, . .

David: Really?

Emery: . . . which has recently just happened.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. And it’s now very difficult to get in there, but I’m still deciding whether to go or not because it’s just a matter of if they invite me again to go down there and decipher some of the ships and craft and some of the extraterrestrials that they found, and of course, the technology.

But yes, there is a large amount of these beings and the craft down there.

David: Can you confirm anything about Pete’s testimony regarding that the craft are so advanced that we have no idea what to do with them yet?

Emery: Yes, I can absolutely concur with that, because the group would never have called me to go down there and check this out, number one, because if they knew how to do it and they’re scientists and know how to do it, they wouldn’t be calling me to ask me to come on board clandestinely, which I can talk about freely. But that’s exactly what happened.

David: Wow!

Emery: I mean, I haven’t seen his show, by the way, so I didn’t know any of this.

David: Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about what we did on “Unearthing Nazca”, because I didn’t even know you knew anything about this. It’s really amazing.

We’ve had X-rays taken of these bodies, and it does not in any way even possibly appear to be a hoax.

The genetic testing shows that it’s over 1,500 years old or more in some cases. It appears to be genuine genetic tissue that’s been preserved in diatomaceous earth.

They have three fingers and three toes instead of five, like we do. It definitely looks like this is an authentic specimen of some kind.

So I’m curious about your thoughts. Have you seen “Unearthing Nazca”?

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Emery: No, I’ve seen just the small briefing that came out with those two mummies, and just the briefing that came out over the world and through Gaia.

David: Okay.

Emery: And that’s all I read. And you know, my first question as a scientist is, who tested it? Where was it tested? How did you retrieve it? How did you get it over the border? Do you mind if I test it at multiple facilities of my choice, which you are not allowed to know?

And, you know, all these questions, because it’s a very interesting story. And I’m not saying yes or no, because I don’t know because I was not a part of that project.

David: Right.

Emery: So I can’t judge it. Since you say these things, I mean, of course, I’m very close with you. I believe you, but as a scientist, I also have to ask many other questions and actually have to examine the bodies because I don’t believe there’s too many other people out there coming forward like myself that would probably go do that and give an expert opinion and write something up.

David: Sure.

Emery: I mean, I’m right now being published in Stanford University for the Atacama being coming forward with that with Dr. Garry Nolan.

So you’ll see that white paper with my name on it, which kind of gives me some credit about my background.

So, you know, I can’t answer that.

Just by looking at some pictures, I can’t say yes or no without being part of the project and giving my own opinion of what they are and where they came from, and also the type of DNA it is.

What was the DNA percentages?

David: There apparently is a DNA test being conducted in Russia right now with some of the finest DNA testing they have. The results have not yet come in yet. It apparently takes a long time.

But we did have Peruvian scientists who did a lot of work down there.

We also have M. K. Jesse, who is a radiologist right here in Boulder, who has surveyed the X-rays and has said that this definitely appears to be a biological being. It does not appear to be anything conventional human.

Emery: Right. And the carbon dating or whatever they use to measure the dating . . .

David: Carbon dating has been confirmed, and it’s all early AD – very early AD.

Emery: Interesting.

David: So would you be interested? I mean, I’m not able to ask you this on behalf . . .

Emery: Yeah, I would . . .

David: Would you be interested in doing that if you were invited?

Emery: Yeah, I would entertain that, of course. Yeah, I would be helpful in any way I can to help approve or disapprove [disprove] these beings.

David: And you told me before that apparently the Atacama humanoid that you had in “Sirius” is not the only one. Could you tell us a little more about that?

Emery: Yeah, I can. There is another being down in that location that has been discovered that is very similar to this being.

And we are now trying to work something out so we could get this being.

If we can get this being, we can get the DNA from both beings and see if they match and see if it is a new subspecies or not.

But the data that we’re printing right now at Stanford is – I’m not going to spill it because I can’t talk about it – is going to talk about that exact thing.

So you guys are going to have to wait for that white paper to come out in a couple of weeks, and then we’ll go from there. But I’m very interested in that being, too. I want to immediately grab this being, put it in a safe place, and be able to run multiple tests on it and see what happens and go from there.

It’s a speculation right now, so we can’t say anything until we actually have the DNA in our hands.

As you know, as I went over to Barcelona with Greer and Dr. Bravo to obtain the first one and bring back that DNA to Stanford for Dr. Garry Nolan to test, one of the world’s leading geneticists.

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So there’s a lot to do, because you have to have, I think, in the future, multiple testing sites, and larger teams involved in organizations. So it’s just not one foundation doing all the work.

And it should be a joint collective thing. Most projects like this should be collective and not just one overseer of that. I think it’s harder to manipulate things when there’s multiple people involved instead of one overseer.

David: One of the things that you carry with you is something that hardly anyone has ever seen. You seem to always have it with you.

The only other time this was ever shown was on stage at Contact in the Desert. You handed it to me when I was doing a panel. It was a sensation for the audience.

Emery: Ah, right.

David: So could you hold up what it is that you have and tell us about this?

Emery: So this . . . After the team and I went over there to Barcelona . . . This is the Ata being from Chile, from the Atacama Desert.

And what we did was we wanted to make sure that we not only have the DNA, but let’s run every possible test. Let’s get CAT scans, MRIs, X-rays, as much as we can for the scientific community to look at this because the private organization that has it, who’s been very generous and needs lots of help, would like to do more testing and do more things.

12 Atacama Being Replica

And I was able, by working on some other secret projects at the time . . . We can 3D render organs and things. We can also 3D render pretty much any CAT scan into any material.

So we can shoot your brain, CAT scan your brain, and I can enter it into the computer, and I can print your brain out in any material I want.

David: Wow!

Emery: Isn’t that cool?

So that way, before I operate on you, I can make sure where all your blood vessels are, and I can actually do . . .

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: . . . yeah. So I can say that now because it’s already out; it’s been disclosed.

David: Right.

Emery: So I thought, “Hey, why don’t I take a CAT scan of this being and put it into the computer and make an exact replica, duplicate, cell-by-cell,” into this just polycarbonate I used, because it was already too expensive to do anything else?

David: Here, let me see it.

Emery: And what happened is: we printed it and this is what came out, this polycarbonate exact being.

David: So one of the things that I notice right away, which people probably notice, is that, like, the head is kind of sliced off.

Emery: Yeah. When we made the program, we made sure that part was open so people could see inside and see the brain lobes, and, you know, there was different things. You know, I could print just with the chest open so you can see some of the lungs and different things that were in there.

But just to have something that was durable that I wanted to last a long time, and something that you could see the volume of. Of course, the skull was the most amazing thing: three times the size of our skull.

13 Closeup Of Ata Being Head

David: Yes.

Emery: From chin to top, that’d be like . . . it’s the same length as his torso from the sternal notch to the umbilicus. We call the belly button, umbilicus. So, you know, it’s three times . . . the same size as that.

That would be like your head, one, two, three, three times your own size.

David: Wow!

Emery: So, very interesting.

The story on this being, if you want me to go into, is . . .

David: Yeah, sure.

Emery: . . . which I was not part of the collection site or anything like that in the early years, but I did read a briefing that matches that of where this craft has crashed. And it was shot down some time ago. I don’t know the exact time.

And it was an egg-shaped craft, and there were . . . about the size of a Volkswagen van.

David: Hm! The size of the egg?

Emery: Yeah, the size of the egg. There were five occupants. And when the army got there, the military – not ours, but theirs – got there, two of them were already dead, the adults. They were 22 inches high.

And then there were three trying to get away. And they shot one, and two they lost into the jungle, or into the desert, or whatever, which the story goes they did wind up in a village.

And the villagers apparently saw these little beings, and they clubbed them and wrapped them in cloth, in red cloth, and went to . . .

David: Why would they club them?

Emery: Well, I’m going to tell you. I’ll tell you why I think they did. Because after they wrapped it in red cloth, they took it to the front of the church doorsteps, and they wrote “El Diablo”, and they laid it there.

David: The devil.

Emery: Yeah, the devil. So how unfortunate.

David: You know, the skull . . . This is one of the things that I always wondered about is: there’s this crack in the plate. Like there’s these two plates, and this part here on the left looks like it sticks up in ridges over the part on the right.

So that’s not the regular physiology. This is because its head was crushed?

Emery: No, it did have that kind of a point there after we looked at that in different computer programs, but it is offset because of the smashed skull.

David: Right. Okay.

Emery: And the hole in the back of the head, so you know, was also something that was done prior to myself and the team actually doing the autopsy.

I did use that hole, though, that was made by another scientist before me many years ago, to gather the brain material, some of the brain matter, and, of course, some of the layers of the brain.

14 Emery Removing Brainmatter From Ata Being

And some of the bone marrow, of course, was what we’re really after. So we took some of that from the rib cage and also from the humerus of the arm of the being.

15 Ata Being Showing Ribs

So we had a lot of samples. We had a lot of good samples. And we took those samples back.

David: Now, it is very interesting, something that I wish we could have gotten into “Sirius”.

Emery: Right.

David: I wanted to see us go into the fact that there is a case in Russia of a little being called Alyoshenka.

16 Alyoshenka

And this being does have the 22-inch height that you’re saying is like the adults, but the dried body of it is basically identical. It is essentially identical to what this looks like.

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And the story there was that the being somehow was found by a woman who had mental illness. And she was feeding it candy and milk for a while, but it was dying.

And she tried to bring it to the hospital in Russia, and after it was brought to the hospital, it died. When its body dried out, it dried out the same way that this Atacama being did.

And then, unfortunately, the story goes that the Japanese were going to buy it for a very large sum of money to study it, and then it mysteriously disappears.

So what do you think Alyoshenka is?

Emery: Yeah. It’s hard to tell. Like I said, I don’t know the story. I know a little bit about the story. I did read a little bit about that briefing.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And then like with anything, even with this being, you have to understand this is not something that I saw actually inside where I was at.

This was after I got out that I was able to handle this. And I just associated this briefing with this accident at this exact place, so to make that clear.

David: Okay.

Emery: And don’t forget, things can be made inside for disinformation campaigns as well. And beings can be grown and these crashes can be made to disinform scientists around the world that are not part of the projects.

And some that leave the projects, they want them disinformed.

So you have to be very delicate about talking about DNAs and beings, and where they come from and the stories behind them, because there’s very few people out there that actually know from start to finish: all right, this went to this to this to this.

You know, I’m being a private investigator saying, “Well, this is what I read. This is what happened. Then later on we finally got it. And then we did this, and it matches everything. There’s another one; matches the same exact report.” You know, all these different things.

So that I would not . . . I would just say I think it’s a similar . . . I think it’s part of the same phenotype of species.

Without looking at the DNA and actually matching the two, which would be the most amazing thing . . .

The fact that it went missing, 100% – obviously, red flag. Red flag, red flag.

Any time anything goes missing or someone gets hurt or killed, you know, it’s a red flag.

David: Do you think there’s any relationship between this story of the church with the being in paper labeled “El Diablo” and the corpse that ended up in the movie “Sirius”, or are those two separate things?

Emery: You’re talking about the Ata? The Ata?

David: Yeah.

Emery: No, that’s the Ata.

David: Oh, that is?

Emery: That is the Ata.

David: So did the church hold onto it all that time?

Emery: Yes. The church held onto it.

David: Really?

Emery: The priest held onto it many, many years. He knew it was very, very important. And then he made a deal with someone.

I know the U.S. government already had samples of this somehow. So in the exchange somewhere, there was this civilian person, the priest, who had access to it. And then a private organization went down there and purchased the being from him, and now it’s in an underground facility near Barcelona being studied.

And many new papers are coming out. I know they’re printing so much stuff.

My own opinion, I think they got a little bit infiltrated and maybe paid off because of some of the things that are being said now over from their people in Europe.

But, you know, like I said, we don’t know. It’s all speculation, because anything can be made to be disinformed.

David: “Sirius” itself kind of ends on a down, because we’re talking to Theodore Lockman; we’re talking to Garry Nolan. The whole movie establishes that this is a credible non-human – normal human, at least – thing.

And then at the end, it kind of seems like the film says, “Oh, well, it’s not really that big of a deal”. It’s very strange.

Emery: That’s very strange, yeah. Why is that? The biggest story in the world and no one wants to hear about it.

So, yeah, I would say, “Hm”. That’s all I can say about that.

David: Right. So another thing that I find fascinating is “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” in, I don’t know, 1940s, 1950s, somewhere thereabouts, had this thing called “AttaBoy”.

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And it’s just like the Atacama humanoid – same size.

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The only real difference is that the head is a little more bulbous in this way [round] . . .

Emery: I saw that, yeah.

David: . . . as opposed to the way the other one looks.

Emery: Yeah, I saw that one.

David: It’s so similar in many other ways. Do you think that’s from the same species or a similar species?

Emery: No, I don’t believe so. No. No. Yeah, there’s too many differences.

I did look at that at one time closely. So I don’t believe it’s from the same lineage or phenotype at all.

David: But do you think it might possibly be extraterrestrial also in its own way?

Emery: Without actually making a . . . bringing the proper test, I couldn’t speculate.

David: Right.

Emery: It wouldn’t be fair.

David: So another thing was these edifices that the people on Easter Island wore on a necklace.

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Emery: Right, yeah.

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David: And when you look at the necklace, when you look at the body of this thing, it looks exactly like what you autopsied in “Sirius”.

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The only difference is that the face is kind of a stylized human face. It’s got these large, round eyes, large kind of nose and mouth.

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So it is kind of an exaggerated human face with large eyes.

Emery: Uh-huh.With every passing day, Antarctica is garnering more attention from mainstream and alternative news sources, alike. Emery Smith urges, that as the ice melts, the secrets at the south pole will no longer be contained. What is being disclosed now, in Egypt as well as Antarctica is just the tip of the iceberg as ground penetrating radar is discovering large voids. Although we are being told of the great voids, what is in those voids is being withheld. Now, new reports of tunnels in South America, as well as strange beings, such as the Nazca Mummies and Atacama Humanoids, found in these locations are coming to light. Emery Smith fills in the gaps of withheld information with his insider’s view on what is really taking place under the Antarctic ice. This interview with David Wilcock was originally webcast January 30, 2018.

David: That part looks wrong. But the body is absolutely dead-on.

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And those Easter Island people are saying that these were the givers of wisdom and knowledge.

Emery: Right. I think there’s a connection.

David: What do you think is going on?

Emery: I do think there is a connection with that. Like I said, I don’t know enough about their history. I just know, from learning from you about that story and seeing some of these pictures a while back, that there is correlation, for the body, that is.

And whether the bodies are replicas or they’re the actual bodies that were mummified, you know, swelling happens during mummification sometimes, depending on where it’s buried and what it’s buried in.

And things can change and misform different body parts, especially with the skeleton, into different . . .

David: Right.

Emery: Just like fossils, you know, if they’re in certain minerals, when they form over time, they’ll take on a different color and shape.

So it’s a very interesting thing when you look at mummies and how they’re buried, where they’re buried, the temperature, the humidity, and then all these other factors that fall into place. And the same thing happens with these beings.

So I can see why you’re asking these questions, because they are similar in many ways, but they’re also . . . There’s differences. And without actually having all three of them right there, for me to say.

But I do agree with you that the bodies are very similar.

David: All right. Well, I want to thank you. This has been very fascinating, and we will have more in store.

Emery: Excellent.

David: So thanks for being here.

Emery: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

David: And thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with our special guest, Emery Smith.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: TECHNOLOGIES OF THE SECRET BASE

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here with our special guest, Emery Smith. And Emery has some absolutely stunning information, and he has taken great risks to bring us what he’s going to share today.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate being here.

David: It’s good.

Emery: Yeah. It’s fun.

David: I’m really glad you finally decided to do this. I think it’s long overdue.

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Emery: I know, you’ve been trying to get me to do this for 10 years, but certain recent events have persuaded me maybe it’s for my better safety that we do this, and also to educate the public, and people deserve to know.

I’ve believed that my whole life, but I know there’s also a time for everything.

David: Yes. Now, it seems with a lot of the insiders I’ve spoken to, that once we dig into their life before the military, that there was something going on before they ever even went in.

And I’m curious: have you had unusual experiences prior to military service that you think may be relevant to share with us today?

Emery: Absolutely. It’s personal, but I can tell you right off hand that my grandfather was in the Army, and my father was in the Navy, but when I was born, he was already out of the Navy. And I always wanted to be in the military.

I think I had my first extraterrestrial visit in 1979.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it was at our five acre farm in Fort Myers, Florida. And that was the first contact I ever had, and it was a very pleasant contact. I’ll never forget it.

I was not contacted after until 19 . . . between . . . around 1999, ’98, where it was like a complete landing and . . . That one was a little bit startling because I was camping out and wasn’t ready for it, because it startled me at night because I had just laid down, and I heard some footsteps walking up.

So that turned out . . . That was like the two experiences. The other one’s after the military, by the way, but it was just a little bit shocking. But the first one was when I was very young.

But after that, I was obsessed with, of course, laying under the stars. I probably slept more outside of my house than I did inside the house, gazing up at the stars.

David: Could you tell us a little more about the contact in Fort Myers, Florida? Was there a craft that you saw that landed and then what happened? Describe the craft. Describe exactly what happened.

Emery: Exactly what happened was, I had laid down to go to sleep in my sleeping bag, and when I looked up, . . .

David: You were outdoors?

Emery: I was outdoors. Yeah.

David: Okay.

Emery: We had a big farm out there.

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . in the middle of the field. In the middle . . . You know, there’s nothing around.

And, you know, a flaming disk comes very . . . a 45° angle. It just comes right out of the sky but moving VERY slow, but red hot.

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You could see the orange glow.

David: How large was it?

Emery: Well, from where I was at, and it was probably at least 2,000, maybe 1,000 meters away, and I saw it go into the woods. And I heard it. And I said, “Oh, it was probably just a meteor.” And wow, it was like the most brilliant meteorite I’d ever seen. But I also noticed that it had a very odd shape.

So I just didn’t think anything of it. And it actually landed closer than I thought: in the neighbors, just a couple acres over, 5 or 10 acres over, in their swamp.

And one of the extraterrestrials came out and walked over. And I was next to a barbed-wire fence – you know, the one you keep cows in with, four lines, sometimes five if they’re big.

David: Right.

Emery: I used to put up fences. You know, these little hooks that you put that barbed-wire fence . . . you know, but that nail to hold the barbed-wire fence against the pole, right, that little hook?

David: Uh-hm.

Emery: So some of them were kinda loosened, you know. And I laid out a tarp all the time. And then I put my sleeping bag on the tarp.

So I laid down, and I’m in the bag, and I always . . . you know, being who I am, tactical Emery, I always have my gun with me. I did have my gun with me in my sleeping bag. And I was in a mummy sleeping bag, and it was very cold.

And I heard a, “Ugu, ugh”, like someone jumping the fence – just as if I would climb the fence. And as the fence gets pushed down, it goes to the metal in the hooks . . .

David: Right.

Emery: It’s like, “Ur, ur, ur,” and then “bump, bump” on the ground. And I’m like, “Okay. All right. Skunk ape, bear . . .”

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Emery: “. . . panther?” Ha, ha.

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Emery: And I’m just like, “Oh, right now?” Immediately, I’m listening to the footsteps. And I’m very attuned to that kind of stuff.

David: Sure.

Emery: I felt a little like uneasy. So I know, maybe it was just me, or maybe it was this being. So I immediately just grabbed my zipper, and I already had my gun in my hand, and I unzipped, and with my gun and flashlight just stood up, and there was a three-foot being right there looking at me.

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David: What did it look like?

Emery: It was blue-gray, and it had big blue eyes. And it had a little thing on its head like you see in the movies, like we see in cartoon characters.

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David: Like an antenna?

Emery: Yeah, a little like an antenna.

David: When you say it had blue eyes . . . So we’re not talking about a Grey?

Emery: No. No. It was very scrawny, and it was blue. And it . . .

David: Like what color blue? Like your shirt?

Emery: Yes. It was this kind of blue. And with the light on it, and me, I’m still stuck in my sleeping bag, and it looked at me, and I think the light really hurt its eyes.

It got like, “What, huh, oh! This is not going down right.” Or, “Huh, oh, I just crashed my craft. I’m just looking for the nearest help or assistance.”

5 Small Being With Height Scale

So it’s embarrassing to say, but I jumped up out of the sleeping bag, and I chased . . . because I see him walking . . . going [showing running with small legs] . . . and I’m chasing him, and he goes into this thicket.

And I’m not, you know, like chasing him to kill him. I’m just like, “Come back! Come back!”

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Emery: I’m chasing this thing, and he goes right through this thicket. It was so thick there’s no way I could . . . I tried to go in there and got all cut up by the vines.

David: Oh!

Emery: And then I hear, “Ur-ree, ur-ree.” And I look next . . . the fence is right next to me. And it gets really tight. Like he’s over there jumping the fence again, heading back . . .

David: Oh!

Emery: . . . to that area. So I was full of adrenaline. And, of course, it was really late at night anyway. But I did, I took a little hike in that area to that direction, but I couldn’t see anything else.

So there was nothing exchanged on that. It was just a . . . I think we both startled each other. And that’s what happened.

David: How human-like would the face appear for a regular person? Would it look like a regular person from Earth with blue skin? Or was there something different about the face?

Emery: Yeah, the face was fuller and more oval, like a bubble.

David: Okay.

Emery: Like if you have a bubble and you just barely . . . If you get one of those plastic balls and you go like this [squeeze the ball with open hands].

But it had features. It had holes in its sides [of the head], not ear lobes but holes. And it was aware, more than 100% aware, and very agile.

David: Were the eyes larger than a regular human on Earth?

Emery: Yes, absolutely.

David: Like how much?

Emery: By at least three times.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes, it was more eye . . . Like the eye and the top of the cranium, it was larger.

David: But you said the eyes were blue.

Emery: Blue. Blue eyes.

David: So it didn’t have the black like you see with a Grey?

Emery: No. When I say blue, you didn’t have white. It was blue eyes. I didn’t see any pupils. But it could have been its protective layers. They have these lenses, a lot of the extraterrestrials, they wear over their eyes.

David: It was a solid-color blue?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And did it have a nose, or just . . .

Emery: Yes, it had a nose – very small.

David: Very small. And a small mouth?

Emery: Very small mouth. Yeah.

David: Okay.

Emery: And it was very, like, cartoonical. Like, “No way!” It was very comical in a way.

David: And how old were you at the time?

Emery: I was probably . . . ah, ’98, I was 28.

David: All right. Well, let’s go back to the first one, because this could be very relevant as we get into your military history.

Emery: Sure.

David: What happened in the first event? Let’s go through that step by step.

Emery: Okay. I had other multiple events after that, but I didn’t understand what it was. I would always do a lot of sleepwalking when I was younger. And I was always outside in a hypnagogic state, but I was very aware, because I would always come back and mom and dad would see my feet were dirty every morning . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . and I’d have no idea . . . Many times they caught me just heading out or heading in.

David: Right.

Emery: And I never injured myself or anything like that.

On this particular evening, and it was not very late, I just was told to go outside telepathically.

David: How old were you?

Emery: I was in second grade, so it was probably around ’79.

David: Okay. So you got the impulse to go outside.

Emery: Yeah . . .

David: But this had been happening to you before then?

Emery: No, this was the first.

David: Oh, this was the first time.

Emery: This was the first time that anything like that happened.

David: Okay.

Emery: And then after that, it started happening all the time, I mean just going out, but not knowing why “I’m out here,” and seeing lights and stuff.

And so I said, “Okay.” So I went outside in the driveway. We had a lake, and I went up to the dock, and I just looked up, and there was this beautiful blue craft. And it was just silent.

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And I was just so amazed that it was silent and this craft was there, and I’m smiling, you know, and I was like even singing. I was like, trying like, . . . I don’t know. I was like, “Woo-oo!” I started whistling or something. It was very odd.

David: What did the craft look like? What was the shape?

Emery: It was blue, and it was disk-shaped.

David: What kind of blue?

Emery: Blue-white, like white. Not dark, not dark blue.

David: Okay.

Emery: This was more like a whitish, bright . . . , but you could see detail, but you couldn’t see edges. Does that make sense?

David: Uh-huh.

Emery: You could see outlines of this, you know, classic shape. And it was telepathically saying that “We’re here,” and “We exist,” and, you know, “We’re going to be back for you.”

David: Wow!

Emery: And I remember very . . . like it was yesterday. And it always stuck in my head.

David: So . . .

Emery: It happened very shortly . . . I think it . . . The whole event lasted, maybe, a minute and a half, two minutes.

David: Hm.

Emery: It’s long. For that to happen today, it would not, because we would shoot you down in two seconds.

David: Right.

Emery: But back then, I think, it was a little bit different. I think they had a little bit more opportunity to make these types of meetings with, you know, not only me, but many other people.

David: Right.

Emery: And to allow them to give us hope and to strive for that later on in life.

So then I just became a really firm believer and all that stuff. And I really wouldn’t talk about it that much. Neither would my family.

David: Do you think that either your father or your grandfather might have been involved in black ops [covert operations]?

Emery: Yes, my grandfather was in the Army.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. And my father flew in the Navy planes looking for the submarines coming in to the Bahamas and off the coast of Florida. So he was a spotter for that.

David: Really?

Emery: And he did some other things, but I don’t think they were intelligence related.

David: You were on some kind of extraterrestrial-contact program it sounds like, and you’re describing multiple events . . .

Emery: I don’t know.

David: . . . of leaving your house at night . . .

Emery: Oh, yes

David: . . . and going outside. Do you feel like there are gaps in your memory from those events, or . . .

Emery: No, no.

David: . . . what do you think is happening when you go out there?

Emery: No, I remember a lot. When I was younger, I had this gift – I call it a gift. I can control my dreams. I know when I’m dreaming.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it just recently came back to me, just recently, within the past couple months, where I can do it again.

I just lost it after I went into the military. I couldn’t do it anymore – when I went into the military.

And I started the military early, age thirteen with . . .

David: THIRTEEN?

Emery: . . . with the auxiliary of the Air Force, Civil Air Patrol, my dad introduced me to. And they were giving pilots licenses to kids for free if you qualified and wanted to be part of this thing.

David: Wow!

Emery: And it’s for people also before they go into the military so you get extra rank before you go in – kind of like ROTC, . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . which I did that too.

David: Right.

Emery: So you get all these perks. Yes, I got my pilot’s license at a really early age.

David: Okay.

Emery: I took many tests that . . . I just know one thing: I took a lot more tests than everyone else did going into the military. And they were not your normal ASVAB test.

David: Okay. Give me an example of something unusual as a test.

Emery: Well, you know, an ASVAB test is based off of . . . “What are you good at? Are you a good mechanic? Let’s see if he can figure out this sprocket or this chain.”

David: Right.

Emery: “Or maybe he’s good at writing. Does he know a verb, adjective or linguistics.”

David: And that might lead to your MOS – Military Operations Specialty. [Military Occupational Specialty]

Emery: And that’s how they lead you out to your MOS.

But with my stuff, it had to do with geometric shapes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah, and like mandalas and like . . . “Out of these six, which one do you like?”

Like, “What do you mean, which one do I like?”

So to me, it wasn’t a test. But it WAS a test for something! Because obviously, there’s some sort of subliminal message in there – maybe some sort of encoding that I don’t know about that I have or my lineage has.

David: These could be logos of certain ET groups that they might have been aware had already contacted you.

Emery: Right. Exactly.

David: Right.

Emery: So that’s how I got pulled out of the Air Force part after I did my four and a half years and then still continued with the contract work.

David: Had you already done four and a half years in the Air Force before?

Emery: I did four and a half, and then two years of reserve, and then two years of inactive – so a total of four . . . eight and a half.

David: And it’s after the four and a half years that you got the salmon filets and that whole thing started?

Emery: No, the first time I got the salmon filet was August 8th of 1991.

David: Wow! You’re having these tests. Now, did these tests start all the way back when you were 13?

Emery: Yeah. They started in the auxiliary part. And then . . .

David: So one of them was geometric shapes. Could you give me another example of something that was bizarre as a test that you got?

Emery: There was a lot of high-end physics and magnetic questions, which I didn’t understand at that point, but I scored high on it. But I’m really not . . . that’s not my thing.

But, you know . . . so I had these amazing job opportunities when I went in the military. But I just wanted to be an F15 Eagle pilot, because I just wanted to fly. You know, Top Gun all the way.

But the Army offered me a huge scholarship that I could not refuse to fly Apache helicopters.

David: Wow!

Emery: But all flight-related, you see, going towards, probably, being an astronaut, or NASA, or other space-related stuff.

David: Hm.

Emery: Most pilots, or most astronauts, as you know, which it’s now changed because they need scientific technicians . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . for specialty. And that’s how I became like a payload specialist.

So getting back to why I was just so adamant that I was going to be a pilot, being just a kid, you know – a 16-year-old when I signed up, by the way – making these decisions.

And they said, “Well, you can also do this medical stuff.”

And I was like . . . And I loved going to the doctor and seeing all the stuff. I liked watching them cut out my ingrown toenails, . . .

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: . . . so they don’t hurt so much playing soccer.

David: Right.

Emery: So, it amazed me . . . They’re always like, “Sit down. Son, you don’t want to look at this. We’ve got a lot of blood.”

And I’m like, “No, no, I want to see this.”

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: They’re injecting me and like, “This kid is frickin’ weird.”

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Emery: And all these surgeons, too, and these doctors, when I was really young, end up becoming my friends. And I end up becoming their teachers, because I got CME accredited [Continuing Medical Education] to teach them on platelet plasma and stem cells. It was really a funny circle.

David: What is CME accredited?

Emery: Physicians and nurses and all medical people, in order to keep your license, you have to go to symposiums and get updated on new educational properties. So, you know, Continuing Medical Education units.

David: Oh, Continuing . . . Okay.

So let’s get back to when you are first brought to Sandia. And I think that’s something . . . You’ve told me before about the process of how you got to the room.

Let’s start with how . . . how you get brought in. Like, what was the first thing that you saw that would be a lot different than a typical military experience?

Emery: Well, being in the operating room and working emergency-type situations, and, you know, already knowing pretty much everything about the human body in the accelerated program I was in assisting surgeons.

David: Uh-huh.

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Emery: I knew that when I walked into this place, that they had spent a lot of money on these . . . everything, even the doors, the security systems.

These amazing security guards, the demeanor of the scientists and physicians that were there, the technicians and everyone, it was VERY serious. It was very, very organized. And it was very clean.

And it took . . . You get debriefed first. You know, they take you . . . It’s a huge background check, but I’m already on active duty. So I was perfect for them.

David: Yeah.

Emery: Young. You know, “If he messes up, who cares! You can just get rid of him. He died in a helicopter crash,” you know, whatever.

David: Right.

Emery: So, perfect subject, but super high IQ, very perfect – already has medical training. “Let’s just see what he can do.”

So they brought me in this room first – and this was before I actually went to do my first case – and they just laid it all out.

David: Laid what out?

Emery: Laid these contracts out. I mean, just . . . It was so thick.

David: Like you were expected to read all that as you sit there? That doesn’t make sense.

Emery: Well, of course, I didn’t read it. I was 19 years old!

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Emery: I saw the page, and I was like, “Yeah!” I already signed up. I was already stupid enough to sign up to get into the military, so I was like, “Fine.”

And it’s like, you know, . . . which I love, by the way, you know, the military. And they saved my life as much as, you know, made me the man who I am today. So I’m like a huge supporter of the military – still am to this day, which with other projects and things. So I didn’t mean to make it sound like I’m not.

I was really thankful for that.

David: Well, we’re very thankful for the Alliance . . .

Emery: Yeah!

David: . . . and the fact that they’re turning the tables for us here.

Emery: I know!

David: It’s amazing!

Emery: It is. All the white hats coming out. It’s just a blessing.

David: And we need people like you to be brave enough to speak to the truth and say what they experienced.

Emery: Well, I’m hoping once . . . because I know a lot of these people. I’m hoping once they see me come forward that I really believe there’s going to be a lot more come forward like within a year.

David: It’s going to get easier too, . . .

Emery: Yeah.

David: . . . because the Cabal is being greatly defeated right now. And you have had a lot of briefings about that as well, which we can get into in later episodes.

Emery: Right. Sure.

David: So you get all these documents.

Emery: So I signed “the book”, and they make it very officious, all these people, you know, the cool lab coats, and other security people, but not in their normal black ops. They’re in like clean suits, like really cool, white, tactical stuff.

David: Hm. Like jumpsuit kind of things?

Emery: Yeah, like a flight suit – white, but with a lot of cool straps and not normal guns. I don’t think they can use guns down there because of the pressurized systems, is what I was told.

David: Oh.

Emery: And I was always told never to bring MY weapon into the facility.

David: Right.

Emery: You use a locker room at the top. You basically change into scrubs, then go down and change into your suit. So it’s like two change-out stations.

David: Wow!

Emery: And you wear a band, which was the coolest thing ever. And this band felt like silicon. I later found out it was graphene, and it glowed.

And that recorded everywhere I went on the facility.

David: Ah!

Emery: And they take it from you. And it also activated later on.

They had iPads back then that make these iPads look like a . . . I mean, thin as . . . You know the X-ray film, how flimsy that is?

David: Yeah, yeah.

Emery: You know, or the films from the . . . we used to use on the projectors?

David: Yeah, yeah.

Emery: Okay. Imagine that being an iPad, and flimsy, and being completely lit up, and accessing the entire main database of whatever section you were working in, and locating your supervisor if you needed to on . . . Everyone kind of knew where everybody was. [There was] nowhere to hide or sneak anything out.

Anyway, you had this cool iPad that was always with you, and you used it for data entry for all the stuff you do because everything’s documented.

David: If it’s so flopsy, how would you be able to type on it?

Emery: Oh, that’s easy. Everything was with your finger, and they had a stylus. And the stylus looked like a thermometer.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it had a very grippy texture to it. And you could hold it, this flimsy . . . It’s not THAT flimsy. It’s a little bit stronger than that. But it’s like that kind of material. It’s like a special polycarbonate that, I think, was infused, of course, with probably graphene or some other . . . or, you know, something photovoltaic, obviously, to do all this stuff.

And anyway, it would always be down on something. It’s not a text paper. This is something where it is always on your counter, you’re using your little thing, your finger, or whatever, and it also interlocks into other . . . Every room has like a hub, like you plug your iPhone into?

Well, this thing, when you lay it down on a table, the whole table now knows this.

David: Oh, wow! That’s cool!

Emery: So it’s just like this Bluetooth-type energy.

David: And it’s full color?

Emery: Yes. Oh, brilliant full color. Three-dimensional objects. You can . . .

David: Oh, holographic too.

Emery: Holographic too.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes, especially when you put it on the tables, the tables become like the actual 3D part of whatever you’re presenting.

David: Wow!

Emery: So, if I did get a body, and that’s already been 3D scanned, the body, that can be projected above the table. And then you can move it with your hands.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: And you can say, “Hey, so I don’t know what this is here in the body. We want just this. So cause the least amount of damage to get just this organ or this little BB out.”

So it was a very . . . and that just TURNED ME ON, because I was a techie, and I was young, and I didn’t want to ever mess up. And I just wanted to keep going.

David: And at the time, right, the time window you’re describing, all we had was like these desktop tower computers that were ridiculous.

Emery: My goodness, we had those big bulky . . .

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: I don’t even know if Apple even came out, . . . even had their comeback yet.

David: Right.

Emery: They just were. So the wrist band, the little iPad floppy thing, was a very important thing that’s always kind of with you. And . . .

David: Could you roll it up and keep it in your pocket, or how would you carry the little floppy iPad?

Emery: Well, you don’t have anything on you ever but this band and this piece of paper.

David: Oh!

Emery: You don’t have any . . . You . . . I can’t have a watch, can’t have a piece of jewelry in this facility. Everything has been stripped from you when you do your two change-outs.

David: Corey, on this show, has talked about a smart-glass pad. And it sounds a lot like what you’re describing. What was it called? Did they ever have a name for it?

Emery: It was always just called “the folder”.

David: The folder.

Emery: Yeah, the folder. There was no fancy-like Star Trek name or anything.

David: Right. Well, a lot of times it seems like to, as they call it, “reduce psychological impact” . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . they try to give you these conventional things.

Emery: Ah! That makes sense.

David: Yeah. Right. So it’s just a folder.

Emery: Yeah. “Don’t forget your folder and your band.” “Okay.”

David: Ha, ha. Did the band do anything else besides just glow? You said it glowed, or . . .

Emery: Yeah, every now and then, it would glow. I think it was just because someone was accessing your whereabouts, especially when there’s breaches.

David: Oh!

Emery: There was a couple of breaches when I was there of things escaping. And there’s also a scientist technician like me that did try to take some stuff out of the facility.

David: Hm.

Emery: And when that thing glows a different color – there’s like different colors for different things . . . And, you know, just do not move and don’t go anywhere until whatever is . . . the emergency is going on. Like in hospitals, we have Code Reds and Code Blues, and all this stuff. It’s similar to that, that not. . . You know what to do or not to do.

David: What were some of the colors you can remember and what they meant on the band?

Emery: Red means you better not move.

David: Just don’t even move at all.

Emery: Yeah. Blue is “everything’s fine”. There was one yellow, which means “breach”. Contamination breach.

David: Oh!

Emery: Yeah. Not just . . . No, not like someone stole something. Someone, somehow, had a hole in their suit or . . . because you have to understand these things have viruses. They have bacteria that we don’t even know. It can kill you.

David: Right.

Emery: It could mutate. The last thing you want is that out. So they have these artificial intelligence systems in place, and these super-high scrubbers, and like the most amazing disinfecting-type of air handlers you would not even believe.

David: Hm.

Emery: And even walking through some of these things, when you have your change out, didn’t hurt or anything, but it was just a precautionary thing.

But they have these vents in the systems that pick up on all particles, parts per million, and it could tell if like one small cold virus bacteria got into a vent, and goes and hits this thing. It’s like everything gets shut down immediately.

David: And that’s yellow, on the band?

Emery: That’s yellow. Yeah. So you never want to see yellow.

David: Do you think that the band could tase you or kill you if you didn’t move when it was red?

Emery: I had never felt threatened by that band at all.

David: Okay. Describe to me what a breach means. What did somebody do?

Emery: Well, one time, and this is just from . . . now, I can only say second hand.

I will always tell you if it was me talking first hand or second hand. Second hand means these alarms went off. Of course, we were later debriefed that someone tried to take something out. That’s all.

So I don’t know WHAT it is. I really was not allowed to ask what it is.

David: Ah.

Emery: But that’s what happened to ease everybody’s calmness, you know, so everyone can start focusing again better. It’s nerve-wracking if you hear ANY alarm there.

David: So you never found out what any of these breaches really were. They just give you a very vague . . .

Emery: One breach I did because my really close friend’s husband was one of the security guys.

David: Oh!

Emery: So they did have . . . made an awesome hybrid bear-type osseo-integrated being.

David: I don’t know really what that means. Could you be more specific? A bear-type . . .

Emery: They made a hybrid animal . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . of some sort that resembled a giant grizzly bear.

David: Okay, but it was human-like?

Emery: But it had metal . . . yeah. But it had like metal talons made of some amazing . . . you know, it was osseo-integrated into his bone structure.

David: Wow!

Emery: That means the titanium and tissue were together, or whatever metal. I don’t know what the metal was. I’m . . . hypothetically just hypothesizing.

David: Okay.

Emery: All I know is once it got out, they had a special truck to get this thing. I mean, it got to the surface.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’s going across the desert.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. Very fast. So they had to blow this thing up. And it was so indestructible that they only injured it, and then was able to put it into this special truck.

And the truck steel was eight inches thick – the cargo container.

David: Good lord.

Emery: And the marks in it were four inches deep . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . from that thing trying to whatever. It was probably trying to get . . . after they knocked it out or whatever.

So he was there on that. And he saw the marks in the truck as well.

David: Wow! That’s crazy.

Emery: And, you know, he would . . . I consider him a very honest person. Plus, it was all over. Everybody knew about it.

David: Wow!

Emery: Everyone knew there was this bad-bad. And that was from a different genealogy department on the base.

David: Well, I hate to leave you on a cliffhanger, but that’s all the time we have in this episode. Very interesting story.

We’re going to pick up more of this as time goes on.

Emery: Sure.

David: And I want to thank you for watching. I’m David Wilcock here with our special insider guest, Emery Smith. Thank you for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: UNDERSEA BASES

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. We’re here with Corey, and in this episode, we’re going to go into underground and undersea bases.

Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: Some people, in fact, probably many people, are familiar with this strange image that’s been circulating around on the Internet forever of this very large tunnel-boring machine that says “US Air Force” on it.

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It’s all white, and you see these guys next to it, and they are dwarfed in size by this thing.

What is that machine? Are they able to dig tunnels underground? Is that what that is?

Corey: Yes. It’s like a mole, boring machine, a nuclear tunneling machine that crushes and vitrifies the rock as it goes.

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They have different sizes and types, but I believe the one you’re talking about, the gargantuan one, creates huge tunnels through all different types of rock for as long as you want them to go.

And they’re created tunnel systems that circumnavigate under the oceans from continent to continent.

David: So just to break into this a little bit, do you think that underground cities are being made? Do you think that they exist?

Corey: Ha, ha.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: I know it. I’ve seen images. I’ve seen video. If you were to see the video of some of these places, you would think you were looking at a luxury mall or hotel in Dubai. They are very futuristic-looking.

A lot of the times, in the middle, for at least sections, there’s wide open areas with, on the outside, along the outside border, will be the beginning of where you enter into the complexes, and then they’ll go further out into, I guess, what used to be a cavern wall that they built.

And the images that I saw took almost looked like they were taken from a drone going down, and you could see curved, huge elevators. And this is the kind of thing that they would show people that they wanted to get into the Secret Space Program to tell them, “We have bases off-planet that are as advanced as the Jetsons.”

These are obviously built for the elite. The military bases are much more spartan, and when you’re in them, you wouldn’t know much of a difference than if you were at an above-ground base.

David: Well, it sounds a little different, what you’re describing, than I think many people’s perception would be.

I think if most people would think of an underground base, then they would imagine that a certain amount of ground is carved out, and that ground is the building. So all you’re going to have is rooms and hallways.

Corey: They have those as well.

David: They do?

Corey: Yes. A lot of them are laid out in a way that are very long, narrow corridors that are carved out and that will be side by side, or a few side by side, and a few turned the opposite way – I guess perpendicular.

And then we’ll have the same amount going that way, in the opposite direction, that will be connected. But those are the ones that are usually not that far underground and are usually directly underneath some sort of already existing base or other structures.

David: Are these always drilled out of the ground, or . . . ?

Corey: No. Over the years, they’ve used many different ways of doing it, from using conventional or . . . I guess the original type of nuclear explosions to blast out cavities that would vitrify a lot of the rock . . . A lot of it would collapse back in. They would go in and clean whatever out that they needed and then finish it off.

David: So just a typical nuclear bomb underground? They’ll hollow out a large cavity, even if it’s all solid rock down there?

Corey: Right.

David: Okay.

Corey: And then a lot of times, they would just drill really deep holes, put in charges of high plastiques, things that detonate at well over 32,000 feet per second, that just turn the rock to dust, no matter how hard it is, and then they excavate it.

And, of course, you have the tunnel-boring machines. And then up in recent times, they have more recent, next-gen type of explosive devices, that when detonated, leave a lot more desirable, almost spherical hole in the rock, that also has almost no radiation.

David: When are you aware of these underground civilizations, underground bases first being constructed?

Corey: We’ve been building underground bases since before World War I that are . . .

David: Before World War I?

Corey: Yeah, that were pretty impressive. But that’s when we were really learning. It really didn’t become a real pressing matter to have deep, underground military bases until the nuclear age, and until the age of having not only nuclear weapons but delivery systems that were sort of like bunker busters, that could deliver nuclear weapons deep under the rock strata before detonating.

So they had to keep up with the weapons systems that were being developed. As the weapon systems were being developed to take out deep, underground military bases, the deeper they went, and the more sophisticated they became.

David: Isn’t there going to be a problem regarding the Earth’s crust getting hotter as you go farther down? How do they circumvent that?

Corey: They do have environmental control over the . . . These are closed systems – all the air, everything. They’re closed systems.

And in a closed system, you can pressurize it and control the atmosphere.

David: So you’re saying that some of the ones that our own people have built have actual buildings in them like you’re looking at a city?

Corey: Some of the ones that were actually built as cities, underground cities, for what we call the elite and their families to escape to.

David: Do they have like what we talked about with some of these Inner Earth civilizations? Do they have trees down there, and lakes and rivers, that kind of stuff, as well as buildings?

Corey: They do hydroponics. They also have plant life to help do some sort of balance with scrubbing CO2. And also with their water systems, . . . It’s a closed system, so they do have that kind of thing, but I do not know the breadth of it.

David: How do they find a water supply? Are they able to tap into aquifers or underground rivers?

Corey: Yeah. The problem is keeping the water out.

David: Really? Let’s go now to Phil Schneider, who is a whistleblower who came out about, as you said, Deep Underground Military Bases, or D.U.M.B.s, . . .

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. . . and at the time, Schneider was widely ridiculed by most of the UFO community, but shortly after he came out, he died.

And since then, a lot of the things that others are saying seem to be validating Phil Schneider’s testimony.

Corey: Yeah. There are underground bases and facilities all over the place – in cities all around us. I mean, there are people that walk into buildings that take elevators that are service elevators that the rest of the public don’t know about.

They go down several more floors than anyone that work in the building know about, get on an underground train system, and are shuttled to anywhere in the world in a matter of an hour or two, to where they can work in these underground bunkers and facilities.

And they’re absolutely spread out all over the place.

David: Well, let’s take a look now at this map that Phil Schneider hand drew over America that shows a series of round circles where bases are, and then a series of lines between them that ostensibly represent tunnel systems.

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Corey: That’s extremely incomplete.

David: You say that’s extremely incomplete?

Corey: Oh, yeah.

David: Okay. Why would you say it’s incomplete?

Corey: Because the underground tram system goes under the ocean. It goes to Australia. It goes to Europe. It goes to Asia. The tram system travels all over.

And there are underwater bases. There are bases that are underwater, on the surface of the ocean floor, and there are also subterranean bases below the ocean floor.

David: Well, some people might have trouble with that because normally just getting a submarine down there, like a bathyscaphe, or one of these things that they would use to try to film the ocean floor, the pressures become extremely great as you go farther and farther down, from all the water that’s there.

Corey: Hm-mm.

David: So based on your understanding, how have they surmounted these problems to make these undersea bases?

Corey: The type of base that I’m going to tell you about right now, you’re not going to really find in the Mariana Trench, not built by us, anyway.

But I had an engineer describe to me how they built a certain base with domes that were lowered into the water, positioned by the Navy, and then an underwater concrete was applied.

The domes were placed on top of the foundation, and then the water is pumped out from the inside of the dome. And then the pressure of the ocean creates an even tighter seal from the way it’s engineered.

It’s a type of concrete that is the foundation. They enter in below and come up within.

And these aren’t huge domes like you would think of in sci-fi, but they could be colonies of domes that are connected together.

David: And what is the dome material made out of? What does it look like?

Corey: Some sort of . . . I don’t know if it’s acrylic or plastic of some sort.

David: Does it have any transparency, or is it solid?

Corey: It’s kind of an opaque.

David: Okay.

Corey: And then they build within it. And then, again, there is [are] also Navy expeditions that have gone and found beautiful underwater caverns that lead to areas underground that are perfect for sealing off and pumping all the water out, pressurizing, and building a base.

They’ve done that and created several submarine bases.

There’s one that there was a lot of speculation about. Some people said it was a hoax, but there is an opening for an underground base system that submarines use off the coast of California that was, I believe, caught on a satellite image. And there was a whole lot of scuttlebutt on the Internet about it, and then it kind of died off.

There was a door that would normally be closed that matches the features of the ocean floor, and it was wide open, and this is where submarines go in, go to a lake that is in Nevada or . . .

David: I thought it was Nebraska.

Corey: Yeah, Nebraska.

David: The “Nebraska Navy”.

Corey: Yeah. Yeah. And it pops up in a . . . And they pop up in a lake, or they’ll stay just below and not surface. But they have . . . It’s large enough for nuclear submarines to travel in a subterranean cavern system. It’s like an underground submarine . . . an underground, underwater submarine base.

David: Well, let’s just speak in generalities now, because I think the answer you’re going to give is quite shocking.

How many bases underground or undersea have we, in our modern civilization, built that you’re aware of?

Corey: Oh, anywhere from very small ones to very large ones, it’s hundreds – hundreds of them. And as we build bases or are tunneling for bases, we come across many ancient underground bases from other civilizations, or current bases from non-humans.

So there’s a lot going on down there. There are a lot of different types of bases, and there is some prime real estate below the ground to do things secretly. And all the beings that are doing secret things, including our Special Access Program people, are down there doing it.

David: How could they possibly pay for such massive construction programs?

Corey: You’re assuming that they’re going to the DoD, putting in a cost, expense, expenditure plan and getting it approved, and then going and taking that money out of the budget and hiring this contractor and that contractor to come in and do all this work, and then paying them with a check.

Everything that is done is done with either . . . if it’s done with the lower space program or military intelligence, it’s done with drug money, money laundered from some other type of illegal activity, or it is done with misappropriated funds from other things, like maybe Social Security.

But they find a way to make things happen when they need it.

David: When we’re looking at the kind of labor that would be involved in building skyscrapers, we’re talking about tremendous numbers of contractors, tremendous amount of logistics and support, bringing in all the building materials, the construction materials.

Is there some kind of vast, underground infrastructure of workers who just live underground that would be available to build new things like this? Because obviously, if they are building this stuff underground, and they are using people from the surface, that creates an operational security issue, I would think.

Corey: Right. A large group that do . . . they maintain the underground systems, and the people that build them, well, they don’t . . . they live down there pretty much when they’re building it, but they are not sequestered down there.

They are a part of this military-industrial complex and are heavily rewarded for the work they do.

Now, if these people were all sequestered down [there], and the security procedures were taken to where we never saw or heard from any of them, we would know nothing about these bases.

David: Is this something that’s primarily being done by the Cabal-controlled countries, or are there other countries that are less Cabal-oriented, like, let’s say, India or China, that are doing this as well?

Corey: Just about any country you can think of is doing this on some level.

David: Are these countries that are not part of the Cabal, are those bases disconnected from the Cabal bases?

Corey: Absolutely.

David: Okay. So it’s not like they’re all tunneled together.

Corey: No, they’re self-contained. No, these are . . . Yeah, most of the bases are self-contained. There’s only a few that are . . . I mean, not a few, but a small percentage, that are a part of this underground network – a small percentage, globally, of them all.

The vast majority of them are built to be self-contained and to house a certain amount of people, anywhere from 10, 20 to 100 years, and sustain them.

David: Hm. What do they use for power to run the electricity down there?

Corey: Well, some of them use geothermal power, and some of them use hydrodynamics, and some of them use classified power systems.

David: Hm. It would appear that there would have to be a decent number of people who are living down there on a continual basis in order to keep this whole infrastructure going.

Corey: Yeah. And they see that as a golden ticket if there’s a catastrophe above ground. And they’re not going to jeopardize that if they think that . . . If they have a golden ticket for them and their family, to bring their family down, the last thing they’re going to do is jeopardize their family being left on the surface during some sort of a catastrophe.

David: Are there people who have been down there for generations, and they’ve never gone back to the surface?

Corey: That is mostly the case, I’ve heard, on off-world bases.

David: How many total personnel do you think there are that you know of?

Corey: There’s no way I could even guesstimate, but there’s more now than ever. All the intelligence that’s been coming in – I guess we’ll go with the Cabal term – Cabal groups have been moving supplies, tooling, military assets, personal items and family to these bases.

One of the most advanced bases has been built down in Brazil. It is one that there’s been a lot of activity, a lot of shipping containers, a lot of supplies, a lot of personnel moving down there.

This has been reported by several different sources, and it’s been going on for well over six months.

David: Have you heard any intel on your own about some of these bases having a vulnerability or potentially being portalled out or otherwise destroyed in some way?

Corey: Yes. There have been some of these bases that have been attacked, some of the older bases or bases closer to the surface.

This is why they have put so many resources into building these more advanced bases, like the one I’m talking about in Brazil that I’ve heard referenced as a “Zazi base” and a few other terms. So it’s definitely a Cabal, Nazi-type, fascist regime base.

David: Zazi is similar to Nazi, so . . .

Corey: Yes, it’s when the groups moved down to South America, they started going by business names. And business coalition groups, they started going by “Zazi”, and they were all . . . they all happened to be Germans with ties to Nazi Germany.

David: Are you aware of any extraterrestrial groups from your time in the space program that would have a sufficiently advanced technology where long, straight, shafts like this could be built with exceptional ease, much more than what we’re doing with these nuclear-controlled drilling tuber systems that we have?

Corey: Yes. These ET “embassies”, as the space program is calling them, are diamond laser-cut-looking and symmetrical and were built in almost no time.

David: So do they have a way of getting rid of the material, so they don’t need to just be hauling it out of there?

Corey: Yeah.

David: Is it something that gets rid of the rock?

Corey: Yeah. Once you get to a certain stage and understand everything is vibration, it’s child play for them to manipulate matter.

To us, it’s a real mind-bender to try to figure out how that magic works, but to them, it’s . . . They understand that like we understand how the tides work on the planet.

David: How many of these hundreds of bases that you talked about have extraterrestrials in them as well as humans? Are they primarily ours, or are they also jointly owned and run at times?

Corey: Of course, some of them are joint-operated. I don’t have that information. I know that the majority of them are for R&D.

David: One last thing I want to get you to address right before we end the episode here is: people all over the world are hearing these very scary, deep, resonant, trumpet-sounding noises.

And I’ve had insiders like Jacob, from the space program, tell me that there are these air apertures on these underground bases, and they can partially open them or close them and then ventilate air through them, and it’s like blowing into a trumpet and getting this big, resonant sound.

Do you know if they do have these iris-type of metal things that could be used like that, that open and close for air ventilation?

Corey: Every once in a while, they purge the air from . . . they recycle the air. But some of these trumpet noises people are hearing on a wider scale in the skies are actually an energetic shock wave coming from the Sun, causing a . . . not really a sky quake, but the sound is coming from energy coming from the Sun interacting with our upper atmosphere.

David: Do you know if there could be a way that ventilating the air out of an underground base could cause that trumpet sound?

Corey: It does. It causes a real weird sound, almost like a tornado siren.

David: So you’re saying that these sounds could be the result of air being ventilated periodically from these underground facilities.

Corey: Right.

David: The metallic shaft is vibrating.

Corey: Right. They recycle air from time to time.

David: All right. Well, thank you, Corey. This has been a very fascinating episode. I hope you’ve enjoyed it. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I thank you for watching.