COSMIC DISCLOSURE: ASTRAL PROJECTION AND OUR PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE WITH WILLIAM TOMPKINS

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock, and I’m here with Corey Goode.

And in this episode, we have more of the very stunning new information coming to us from our World War II veteran insider William Tompkins.

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ASTRAL PROJECTION

William Tompkins: When I was just a boy, and I was, like, seven, eight and nine years old, I used to fly a lot. Now, I didn’t have an airplane. I just flew.

We were living in Santa Monica. We were living in Hollywood, and I flew a lot, mostly at night, but a couple of times in class, in school, recess, I’d just go behind the building, and I’d take a flight.

And I’d sometimes . . . I’d put my arms up, but most times I’d just go out.

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And so I could fly all over Hollywood, San Fernando Valley, go down to the beach at Santa Monica, fly up to Malibu, fly all the way down to San Pedro, look at the Navy ships and the dry docks in San Pedro, and fly over LAX and come back.

I had a hard time flying over LAX. There was a lot of stuff going on, so I kept myself away from the airports as much as I could.

A few times, after I’d had fun just flying around low key – and in particular, it’s more fun at night with the lights – I’d just shoot out, out into the galaxy. And I flew way above 186,000 miles a second, way, way above that.

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And it took everybody a long time to figure out that even the Germans could fly faster than that, and certainly the extraterrestrials could, okay? But what I am saying I do, is I fly out there.

And one time I flew into . . . it the admiral’s command ship of a Reptilian space navy. I flew right into his office. I could see, hear and smell everything that they were saying.

To me, it came to me in English, just like when I flew one time over Russia. Admiral Sergey Gorshkov had been building a whole series of futuristic ships that don’t even look like they’re from the planet because they were built with stealth.

I flew over the base, Vladivostok base, and I actually flew around the base. I went down, looked into the edge of the construction facilities, came back up high, flew into Sergey Gorshkov’s office, and I could see, hear and smell the coffee in his office.

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And his language . . . which language? English. All of them were talking English. Okay?

I actually got into a research group in the Navy where I was an adviser to this psychic type of whatever that I’m doing here.

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David: So that’s some pretty interesting stuff there. We’re hearing that he has been able to do this ever since he was seven or eight years old.

And Corey, one of the things that jumped out at me, I was five years old when I had an out-of-body experience. I woke up floating over my body, and it was the event that got me to study ESP.

So I started to do psychic experiments by the time I was seven years old. I wanted to get another chance. I was only able to do it once when I was a kid.

Corey: Yeah, I thought it was commonplace. I thought everyone could do it. I was doing it . . .

David: This was something that happened to you often?

Corey: Mm-hmm.

David: From what age?

Corey: The age of four and five years old it was spontaneously happening, and then I was able to control it through my youth.

We’d be on long car drives. I’d be bored, and instead of asking, “Are we there yet?”, I would just project myself outside of the car, and I would float and fly above the signs as we passed, above the overpasses.

And I thought it was something everyone could do.

David: Is there something about extraterrestrial lineage in the soul that makes it more likely that people will be able to do this?

Corey: Well, let’s say that, in a previous life, you were a more advanced extraterrestrial. You had advanced consciousness abilities, and you agreed to be incarnated here on Earth as a human.

We still have that same oversoul that has the same knowledge. So that knowledge has to slowly trickle into this conscious being that we agreed to become.

David: Is there any reason to believe that if a person goes through excessive trauma, that that trauma might propel them to be able to develop astral projection?

Corey: Yes. That’s actually a technique that is used in the programs. They will cause people to astrally project by inflicting extreme trauma upon them.

David: How does that end up working? Why do you project out of your body then?

Corey: That is a . . . It’s an escape or a protection mechanism that our psyche has. It’s a disassociative ability that our psyche, and we have spiritually, to disassociate and divorce ourself from what is occurring.

And once they program a person through trauma to be able to project out of their body, then they start training them how to do it for operations.

David: And what would be an example of an astral projection?

Corey: Very similar to remote viewing. It’s going to be going to gather intelligence at a remote location.

David: Well, it seems that this is a very ancient technique, isn’t it? I mean, this is something that mystery schools have talked about for a long time.

Corey: Right, it’s a heavily suppressed ability that all humans have.

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David: One of the things that, maybe, our viewers are not aware of, there is one particular secret society called BOTA, or Builders of the Adytum, and the Adytum, believe it or not, is a room that has an altar with a sacred book inside with sacred knowledge.

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And the room is completely walled off. It’s usually a cylindrical room, all bricked in. You can’t get in at all except in your astral body.

And so the key for the initiate is, can you astrally make it into that room and then read the book inside the Adytum, and only if you can accurately recount what the book says have you then become a true initiate.

Have you ever heard of anything like that?

Corey: Well, I mean, there were similar exercises that we were all put through.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. You would have to identify an object in another room, its color. It wasn’t as . . . We weren’t reading books, but you know, we were children.

And they would have us identify toys or paintings or different things in another room that was walled off, and that no one in the experiment, at that time, knew what was in there either. So you weren’t getting psychic hits, or you weren’t front loaded in anyway.

David: Some people might be inclined to dismiss Tompkins’ testimony based on the idea that he’s saying, for example, he went into the office of an admiral of the Reptilian navy, and that he’s hearing things in English when they clearly are not speaking in English.

And the same thing with the Russian where they had these unconventional aircraft, stealth aircraft.

Corey: I have heard of that before, that your mind – your astrally projected astral body – is able to interpret other languages to the language that the mind uses.

David: So there’s sort of a natural translation function going on.

Corey: Not all the time, but some people have that innate ability.

You can’t just astrally project to a lot of these black bases. They’re protected by people that have remote influencing abilities and are enhanced by technology.

I’ve heard them called “Those Who Scatter”. They’ll scatter your thoughts.

Also, shadow beings that will protect facilities from astral projectors. Astral projectors will go try to get into a facility, and all of a sudden they’ll get this real dark being that’s now chasing them all over the place.

So they do have astral security.

David: All right. So in our next segment, we’re going to have Tompkins blast us out into the cosmos, and specifically, we’re going to hear what he has to say about settlements on the Moon.

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OUR MOON

Tompkins: Well, first of all, it’s not your Moon, and secondly, it’s not a moon. It’s a command center for a region of this part of the Milky Way galaxy. That’s what it is.

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And it doesn’t rotate. Everybody forgets the thing doesn’t turn. Okay? So it’s not a moon. It’s not YOUR moon. It’s a command center with probably 25~35 different civilizations in there, all of which operate out here for this part of the Milky Way galaxy.

And, yes, some of those people actually are at war with each other, but they have personnel living here. Their families live here. The kids are getting educated. They get young. They get older. They get married. It’s a big hunk. It’s a big facility.

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David: So Corey, what was your reaction as you saw this segment just now?

Corey: It’s exactly what I had stated in the past. There are a number of factions that have territory on the Moon that they operate in. And there will be blood enemies for millennia that are operating within a kilometer or two of each other, I mean, groups that you do not get together no matter what.

David: Now, he mentioned 25 to 35 civilizations. I’m curious how well that dovetails with what you’ve heard?

Corey: That’s probably about right. There are a lot of the genetic farmer races that have ‘observation posts’, is what they call them.

And they do use it as an observation post and a station that they go back and forth doing these genetic experiments on us from.

David: Now, one of the things that jumps out at me was, I kind of thought of this, like you said, as an outpost or maybe a stopover point, whereas he’s saying that you have families living there. You have children being educated there, growing up in these lunar bases.

So we are dealing with what would appear to be like a permanent housing for potentially large populations of people from several, you know, 25~35 civilizations.

Corey: I mean, it would be similar to us having a marine base in Europe. The soldiers have families that are there with them. It’s going to be one of those scenarios.

I had not heard intelligence of families and children. The information I had received was that they were more sort of like military outposts.

David: When I went to Japan, I went to Tokyo, the main city, and it’s amazing when you’re there, and you look out, and you see something that kind of looks like Manhattan, but it is so big.

Tokyo is so incredibly large, there’s such a density of buildings that you can’t even see to the point where that highly compressed density of buildings stops.

So when we have a city of that size, it’s a very small geographical footprint, but you could potentially have 20, 30 million people living there.

I’m wondering if the level of development on the Moon in some of these territories these people have is sufficient enough that you could have a population that large in a small space.

Corey: It’s all about technology. If we were not so technologically developed, it wouldn’t be possible to have a city like Tokyo.

They have mastered all of the energy needs, the protein requirements that people may need, everything that’s needed to process waste on a much more efficient level than we are.

So, yeah, they’re able to have a much higher population density than we are.

David: Are there immigration requirements that would prevent anyone who is not part of their indigenous culture from being able to even see the inside of these cities?

Corey: Absolutely. You don’t have one group going into the cities of others. I mean, it’s like the UN or kind of like how Antarctica is carved up for all these different countries.

It is undisputed territory, and they do not cross over or invade.

The Moon was made sort of like a Switzerland zone, a conflict free zone, after some major, major battles that happened in our history. And they left some of the remnants of that battle on the Moon as a testament and a reminder of the battles and how bad it got.

These are the conflicts that led to these treaties being signed between the different genetic farmer groups, some of these more negative groups that we’re talking about, that allows them to live and operate in close proximity without being at war all the time.

David: Pete Peterson has an insider who came from the Russian space program, who told him that if we were to be able to see the dark side of the Moon – which as Tompkins noted, it’s always against our view. We can’t ever look on that side – that it would look like Manhattan at night.

Meaning the entire circular area of the backside of the Moon, if that circle could be turned towards us, the whole thing at night is just literally covered with lights.

Corey: Yeah, there’s one particular, I think it’s called Luna City, that has a lot of light.

But you have to also note that they have a type of cloaking that goes over their buildings and structures that looks just like the rest of the arid terrain of the Moon.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: So you could fly over and just see craters when actually that’s a projection over a base or an outpost

David: That is interesting because, as we know, retired Major Bob Dean, according to what I heard from Jacob, my insider who met up with him at a Project Camelot event and recognized him from the Secret Space Program . . .

Corey: I’m pretty sure he did at least one 20-and-Back.

David: Yeah.

Corey: That’s my opinion.

David: But one of the things that Dean said while he was talking to Jacob was that there was an island in the Pacific where half of the island looks like an island, but it’s a cloak, and that there’s a very important base there.

And if it wasn’t for this hologram that makes it look like it’s just an island in the ocean, you’d see this amazing thing.

Corey: Oh, yeah, they can disappear entire islands.

David: Wow! So this is stuff that could be used on Earth right now.

Corey: Absolutely.

David: You can confirm that.

Corey: Yeah. It can be used over Antarctica. It could be used any number of places.

David: All right. Now, he also mentioned that the Moon is a command center. How much of this is also inside?

Corey: Almost all of it. The majority of it is under the surface of the Moon in these deep huge fissures, cracks and lava tubes.

David: And one last thing was you mentioned that we have some new art of the Lunar Operations Command.

Corey: Yes. Yes.

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If you look at this image, this is an image that I commissioned that is a 3D rendering of the swastika-looking arrangement of buildings that . . . how the LOCoriginally looked.

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David: Okay.

Corey: And then I have another image that shows how it was built out to cover up the swastika.

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David: Interesting. All right. So in this last segment, we have one final set of words from Tompkins for us in this episode, and this is his statements on how he sees our place in the universe based on his own personal and stunning insider knowledge and direct experience with extraterrestrial contact, including Nordics. Let’s take a look.

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OUR PLACE IN THE GALAXY

Tompkins: We’ve now accepted that we have 200 trillion galaxies. Not million. We have 200 trillion galaxies out there.

I mean, what . . . We are so naïve of what’s out there. It’s totally unbelievable. Millions and millions of planets out there – very small things and things that make our Star look like kid stuff.

Our star is just a little dot over on the side – even our galaxy.

And while we’re talking about that, this subject comes up all the time, and it’s an appropriate time to say it.

If we can visualize us as the center of the Milky Way galaxy, we’re reaching out like this with our arm.

Everybody in this room, and all the audience that’s going to be watching this, has to realize this is one of the arms of the Milky Way galaxy. You’re located at my first joint.

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You’re not down . . . Wait a minute! You’re not down where the action is. Even in the Milky Way galaxy, you’re not downtown where ALL the action is.

You are out here at this tip, which in time, you’re going to get thrown off because the galaxy rotates. The galaxy rotates, all of them do.

They rotate, so the tips get thrown off. Other galaxies come by, and they pick up that stuff. So you may be going to the next galaxy several weeks from now. Okay? Takes quite a while. [Smiles]

So to realize that you’re not downtown, you’re just one of the castoffs.

This little Solar System thing that you’ve got here – it’s . . . You’re out in the boonies.

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And it’s interesting that we have to address who we are, where we are, and what we know and realize that the universe is unbelievable. And so opportunities for young people in this country, all over the world, to be involved in this commercially, okay . . .

Come on. Forget about carrying a big gun. There’s too much of that. That’s not the right step. You’ve got to have the largest . . . enough to be able to stop it, and this is where the Navy has been saying this for 240 years. If you have a large enough navy, they’ll back off.

You don’t need to use a shooting navy. But if you don’t carry that, people are going to really make it hard for you.

And so to me, I think we’re just starting. We’ve just got the tip of the iceberg of where we can go and what we can do, and it’s unbelievable opportunities.

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David: All right. So, wow! That’s a very sobering reminder of the awesomeness of our cosmic identity.

I’ve been quoting from the latest NASA studies, which have revealed that there are as many Earth-like watery planets in our universe as there are grains of sand on Earth, on the entire planet. All the grains of sand put together – there’s a watery planet like Earth out in the universe for all of that.

So it’s a staggering number.

Corey: It’s a template that’s all over the cosmos.

David: And these watery planets in this theoretical mock-up that NASA has put out, they’re looking at, okay, well, maybe one out of a hundred of them is going to have life, and then maybe one out of a hundred of those is going to reach intelligent life.

But based on what you’ve told me before, it seems like intelligent life for a watery planet is far more prevalent than that one out of one out of 100 thing.

Corey: Well, yeah, and also, you have to understand that each solar system has its own dynamics. So there are going to be times of developed societies in the solar system, and then there are going to be cataclysms – cycles that occur.

Then they’ll have long periods of having more basic life that inhabit these planets.

David: And if our conventional estimate of the age of the universe is about 13.8 billion years – there’s different opinions, but that’s one of the common ones – then that would mean that there could be civilizations much older than ours that already reached very high technology.

Corey: Oh, yeah. Come and gone.

David: So the idea that we are the only intelligent life in the universe, in light of all these new statistics, is totally ridiculous.

Corey: Yes, it’s beyond ridiculous. It’s arrogant. You have the right mix of minerals, distance from the sun, the planet being seeded with the correct enzymes or proteins from comets. Then you have all the building blocks for basic life, and it’s everywhere.

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And now that they’ve found out that the stars produce water, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that’s where a lot of the water’s coming from.

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And the Sun is also producing the harmonic wave that allows life to come about.

David: Yeah, this is something I’ve done a lot of scientific validation of. If people also watch “Wisdom Teachings”, they’re going to hear, in many of my DNA episodes, astonishing proof.

We went into Wilhelm Reich and how you can, in fact, generate life just out of electrifying a rock and water. All you have to do is that, and you’ll eventually get life to form.

Corey: Right, and also where in the galaxy this solar system is is also going to depend . . . is going to dictate how advanced and how quickly life advances or progresses.

More towards the center of the galaxy, things are occurring a lot quicker. Time is occurring differently.

There’s a lot more going on, civilization wise, towards the center of galaxies than in the cosmic boondocks that he was talking about.

David: I did find that fascinating because my insider Jacob, who was very extensively knowledgeable about the Secret Space Program, claimed to have been to over 200 different off-planet sites, to have seen over 400 different types of extraterrestrials, and he was the guy who gave me a lot of information that correlated so well with what you’ve brought up.

Jacob was telling me that, yes, the center of the galaxy is so much more advanced, and there’s so much more going on there that it’s almost incomprehensible to us.

Corey: Time flows differently. Energy, everything . . . Towards the center of the galaxy, things are occurring, from our perspective, much quicker.

David: Now, Tompkins also mentioned that there were commercial opportunities. It’s not just about going out there with a gun.

What do you think could happen in a post-Full Disclosure world where people will have the ability to potentially even have a portal in their home, and in the course of one day maybe even travel far outside our Solar System, meet with other people, travel to other places? What kind of society is that? What kind of businesses could we start to develop at that point?

Corey: Well, there’s already a lot of commerce going on between our Solar System and the other solar systems, but it’s being controlled by a very militant and fascist group.

If it’s put in the hands of the people, we’re going to be able to do this – start bartering – from our own best interests.

Right now, a lot of the people in the secret space programs are somewhat forced into it.

When it becomes an all volunteer navy-type situation for space, then we’re going to have people that are bringing more creative energy to their mission. And if it’s not a military mission, it’s going to be more of a mission for commerce.

David: Some people watching this show might be cynics, and they would say, “Well, what could we possibly be offering to any other cultures? We’re like Neanderthals, troglodytes, in comparison to these people.

“Even if we developed the portal capability, even if we could pop over to a solar system outside of our own and visit an advanced culture, if they’ve got gigantic buildings made out of transparent aluminum crystal, what are we going to do going in there they would possibly want from us?”

Corey: Well, there are going to be some civilizations that are so much more advanced, there’s nothing that we’re going to really have except for maybe some biologicals or genetic stock that we are willing to trade from our planet.

A lot of them, that’s what they’re interested in. So the more super advanced civilizations . . . we’re not really going to have much that they’re going to want to trade.

But there are a lot of civilizations that are very close to ours. Our level of development is similar to theirs to a point to where they’re buying vessels from us.

We’re engineering technology that nonterrestrial groups covet, they want, and they’re willing to trade for it because we’re known as very diligent and brilliant engineers.

David: Could there also be job opportunities for people who might be, let’s say, artists or musicians or teachers?

Corey: Absolutely.

David: That kind of thing?

Corey: Yeah, I would expect a lot of exchange programs when it comes to the arts, because it’s . . . All the planets have some form of art.

David: And how much of a wide diversity are we looking at of places where artists or teachers or musicians could go and volunteer their services once this opens up?

Corey: Just about every planet that has a human-type civilization. The reason that they tell us not to call them nonterrestrials, or ETs – they tell us to call them people – is because there’s very little difference, genetically, between us and them.

David: Right.

Corey: They are people, and people have desires. They have interests. We can cross-pollinate our sciences, our arts, with other star systems that are interested in our art.

David: So there’s a potential in our future where we could have educational programs, where we’re going to help people to get to a point where they would be welcomed as diplomats, ambassadors, teachers, sharers of knowledge, but it’s going to require us to level up our spiritual maturity before we’re ready for that.

Corey: We’re going to continue to be sort of isolated until we go through this consciousness renaissance. Once we do, and we’re not as damaged, we don’t have as strong of PTSD, then we’re going to be able to go out and interact with them.

David: Well, that’s a very fascinating and hopeful message.

We’ll see you next time here on “Cosmic Disclosure”. Special episode with William Tompkins. I’m David Wilcock here with Corey Goode, and we thank you for watching and supporting us.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: VIEWER QUESTIONS PART 7

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode, our insider’s insider. How are you doing, Corey?

Corey Goode: Doing well, thank you.

David: Welcome back to the show. All right, first question is from Schmitz_K, and it is as follows:

“Love the viewer questions. I also have a question of my own. Do the SSP vessels produce gravity or are they a zero G environment? And is gravity severely reduced in the LOC?”

Was there gravity when you were on the ship?

Corey: Yes. They have plates on the floor that create a gravitational field, but also within the bubble of the torsion field, it creates an environment to where they can control the gravity better for some reason.

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Now, the lower level SSPs, they don’t have all of the artificial gravity. So you’ll see the monkey bars on the ceiling that you use, you know, for getting around.

David: Oh. If we go back to the German Bell craft, did they have zero G environment when they were flying in those?

Corey: Yes.

David: They did?

Corey: Yeah.

David: The second half of the question was about the LOC. Is there severely reduced gravity in the LOC? I guess they’re thinking about the Moon’s gravity being less than ours and how the astronauts supposedly bouncing around.

Corey: Right. On the LOC, there was one G of gravity.

David: Oh.

Corey: Now, there are some of the other surface bases that they have that we haven’t talked about so much where there is no gravity.

David: Oh, no gravity?

Corey: No gravity, except for, well, the Moon’s natural gravity.

David: Right, okay.

Corey: Right.

David: Okay. We have a question from Marcus O., and it is:

“I would like to hear Corey going into more about the work he’s done on himself, also more on his high vibratory diet and what work exactly we could be doing on ourselves. I understand that he doesn’t want to come across as a leader, and that we shouldn’t be ‘following him’, but some of us would like advice and extra information.

“For people who are trying, i.e. with diet and meditation, what would be some good suggestions for both? It would be nice to hear more about the work we should be doing for this conscious renaissance.”

Corey: Well, there is a component to this situation that I’m having my vibratory state augmented just by being in the presence of some of these higher vibratory beings.

David: [David shakes his head in agreement.]

Corey: And I’m getting personal one-on-one advice from them, and it’s very uncomfortable advice. About 80% of my communications with them involve them shining lights where I’ve refused to shine lights.

David: So for somebody who isn’t having beings show up in the room with them and giving them a higher vibration just by being in their presence, what are some of the practical steps of people actually achieving that forgiveness?

Corey: Less looking out here for solutions and a lot of introspection. We all have the traumas in life that we think we’ve put behind us. We don’t have to deal with them anymore.

Well, it’s time that we start, you know, digging them up, holding them up to the light, and, you know, doing the hard work. This has been very difficult.

A lot of people are like, you know, “You’re getting this one-on-one contact. How luck are you.”

It’s very, very difficult. It’s demoralizing at times.

My ego has been so, I guess, massaged in – not in a way to make it bigger but to make me more humble.

Anytime you begin to think highly of yourself, they come, “Wait a minute. Look at this, this and this.”

And you know, it puts you back in your place and puts you back on the path.

David: So the question also revolved around dietary issues, and there’s another one that we have in here, I think, that is going to cover that as well.

So he was specifically saying he’s already trying to do a healthy diet, but what are some of the suggestions that might be of assistance?

Corey: Well, that is definitely a process as well. One of the things I was being told, especially by Tear-Eir, was that I was not practicing what I was preaching.

I was talking about high vibration diets, going home and eating corn dogs and all these nitrates, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . and it was wreaking havoc on my body. I mean, you can see from the first season, you know, how unhealthy I looked.

David: It’s amazing, the transformation of how much you’ve changed. And it really did seem like once you had that contact with Ka’Aree, and you touched her hands, and then you had this mind-meld that something really triggered in you at that point.

Corey: You know, it’s a difficult path. Each person’s path is different.

I mean, you have to deal with your old traumas. You have to deal with your current behavior that is destructive.

If you don’t do that, no matter how spiritually advanced you think you are, you’re just deluding yourself.

You have to work and take care of all these little earthly issues that are acting like a parachute to hold you back.

David: So since the question also related to diet, I want to bring up the subject of the weapons system, something that several insiders have talked to me about, the idea that the Cabal itself actually has put in certain ingredients in food that is intended to reduce lifespan, decrease happiness, increase weight, all this kind of stuff.

So are you personally aware of the idea that the food system that we have is being weaponized in certain ways?

Corey: Yeah, our entire environment has been weaponized against us. That’s why we’ve got to mitigate all of those weapons as much as we can.

And in my case, I ended up moving to a vegetarian diet. I was pretty much forced to by getting food poisoning.

David: Right.

Corey: So I was real slow to start practicing what I was preaching.

David: Okay, so the next question is from Sedona Visionary, and it says:

“Corey has mentioned more than once that he uses a technique for releasing negative entities from his energy field. I would really like to know the how-tos. I know he said he does it using the name of Jesus Christ, but there must be a little more to it than that that would be helpful for people watching this show to use.”

Corey: Once I realized that I did have entity attachments, I went back, of course, to my background and how I was raised, and I called on the name of Jesus and it worked. They just fled the scene of the crime.

David: Right.

Corey: Later on, I was reinfected with entities by Mara, one of the Inner Earth people that had visited me without my permission.

David: The negative being, in this case.

Corey: Right. In that case, Ka’Aree removed them with some sort of tone from a crystal, and they fled exactly in the same way.

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I guess the power that I assigned to the name of Jesus gave it some sort of a vibrational strength with my will and my belief that the name of Jesus would clear me.

So I say that because the tone, the vibration of that crystal, was what drove them out of me the second time.

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So there has to be other methods of doing it, of course. I’m not going to say you have to go to the Inner Earth and have a crystal waved above you or call in the name of Jesus.

People can do it on their own, but it’s very difficult. A lot of times, these entities will act like they’ve left, you know, “I’m leaving”, you know, do the little walking noise and then sneak right back around and come in.

The best thing you can do is just make your body of a vibratory nature that it’s very difficult for these beings to coexist with you.

David: We have one from Merwitch Mama. Ha, ha.

“Why are we still calling Gonzales, ‘Gonzales’? If he’s already been compromised and no longer even on Earth, why can’t we know who he really is? It would go a long way toward getting more people on board with this.”

Corey: He has family here that I wouldn’t want to put in danger. I’ve already outed him, and it caused a lot of problems with the Alliance, the SSP Alliance. Half of the command and control structure will not show their heads, you know, for command and control purposes.

David: Right.

Corey: So I’m not going to do anything to cause any more damage.

David: I totally agree. Wanderer 1027:

“I am confused as to why the Alliance is more concerned about the Cabal exposing the dirt that the Cabal has on them than they are about giving humanity Full Disclosure. Should we care what individual factions of the Alliance have done more than our own ascension?

“Also, why, Corey, are you concerned about the social effects of Full Disclosure? Society’s already broken. We experience a dark night of the soul for a reason, don’t we?”

So, I guess the first question is, “Why is the Alliance more concerned about the Cabal exposing the dirt on them than Full Disclosure?”

Corey: Well, because they will be standing next to them in tribunals. They were carrying out orders that were given to them for a long time. And in the process, many crimes against humanity were committed.

David: Stuff that would be so extremely compromising that people wouldn’t feel very forgiving?

Corey: Absolutely not.

David: So regarding this idea that the social effects of Full Disclosure, the question seems to be confronting you as if you are concerned about Full Disclosure breaking down society, and they’re saying society is already broken. This is just going to give us a useful dark night of the soul if we get Full Disclosure.

Corey: People have all these ideas about what disclosure is going to be if there’s a Full Disclosure event. And it is going to be more than a dark night of the souls. Many people are going to die in the process. It’s going to be chaos.

It’s not going to be people holding hands singing “Kumbaya”. It’s going to be . . . We are demanding one of the most difficult times in our life. We’re demanding we need this disclosure, but we don’t fully understand how difficult it’s going to be.

I mean, there are countries that have been victimized by the Cabal are going to find out a bunch of information. They’re going to want to go to war with Cabal countries.

It’s going to be a mess. It’s not just going to be people that won’t get out of bed and eat because their religion has been basically proven as wrong.

David: Right.

Corey: It’s far more reaching than that.

David: So it would seem, then, that even a Full Disclosure, the most ethical way to do it would be in a series of stages where there’s some acclimation along the way.

Corey: That’s what the negotiations have been all about. The Alliance, the Earth Alliance, they believe that it’s irresponsible to just drop it all on the people. They think it should be, you know, put out in a slow way.

But in that case, if you don’t put it all out at once, then you’re always going to have somebody that’s wanting to hold back little bits and pieces.

So I’m for Full Disclosure, but what I’m saying is, everyone out there, be careful what you wish for because it’s going to be a lot more difficult even for those in the UFO community than what we think.

David: Well, if you think about, Corey, our own creative process when we were developing “Cosmic Disclosure” with the folks here at Gaia, we were looking at a lot of information that you could tell us about Draco and things like that that were VERY disturbing things.

And we did structure the show so that that kind of stuff came in later episodes after we’d had multiple episodes to try to front load the positive at the beginning.

So do you think there’s a way that this could happen with Full Disclosure or are you saying it’s like a data dump and it just all kind of comes blasting out?

Corey: That’s what Full Disclosure is, is a complete dump of everything.

David: Right.

Corey: And everything . . . I mean, there’s going to be a lot of disturbing information.

David: We have another question now from Akhaishimray, and it says, and we’ve heard this one before:

“Are you not allowed to film your interaction with the Blue Avians or Mica or even just a view aboard one of the spheres? And if so, why? A 360-degree camera would be ideal since that’s difficult to fake.

“Why must disclosure only come from a CNN camera?”

Corey: I’m not allowed to bring any technology with me. I’m screened for AI every time I go up. You cannot bring technology with you.

So there’s no way I can bring a camera with me and stick it in Tear-Eir’s face when he’s trying to communicate to me.

David: So you’re saying that any technology from Earth could potentially have this AI in it . . .

Corey: Uh-huh.

David: . . . just as the . . . because you also mentioned it can exist as an electromagnetic source.

Corey: Right. Right. It’s just security protocol.

David: Right. Is there also some reason, in terms of the Blue Avians and what they’re wanting to be disclosure, that they don’t want too much proof too quickly so that free will is preserved?

Corey: The way they see it, all the proof, that’s all up to us and the process. The only thing they’re concerned with is raising the vibration of humanity and raising our consciousness.

The way they see it, if they raise our consciousness, everything else will just fall into place.

David: Sure. Just because this is something that’s come up a lot in the discussion forum, people have often said, “Why can’t he put some kind of camera in his living room so that if a sphere shows up, he can catch it on film as it’s happening, and then that’ll be the big event that finally proves that he’s telling the truth?”

Corey: Well, the one time that I did put a camera up in my room, the meeting did not occur that night.

David: Really?

Corey: Right.

David: What do you think is the reason for why the beings don’t want a definitive smoking gun of proof given to us at this point?

Corey: Everyone has to go through their own process, their own spiritual process in raising their vibration and going towards disclosure.

People say that, “Oh, I’m spiritually advanced. I will not worship beings if they appear.”

But that is not the history that these beings have seen with us.

We are programmed to worship something higher, and a being comes in, we’ll be, “Oh, this is an angel”, and try to apply it to whatever personal religion we have built up in our heads, and then start praying to them, which they already have a problem with.

David: Right. This is a subject we could talk about for a long time, but we are trying to get through a bunch of questions here.

We have one from Jenaceae:

“Okay, so are the Pre-Adamites then what we are calling the Annunaki or are they the step-link between the Annunaki and the elite Cabal sun god worshipers?

“All the sun god people the Cabal worship have elongated heads, right?”

Corey: Well, the Pre-Adamites are basically fallen angels. 55,000 to 60,000 years ago, they pretty much crash landed here after a series of misfortunes.

They are not allies with the Draco, by any means. They’ve had agreements with them, but they kept the Reptilians in check in the past.

And it was after this last deluge or global catastrophe that caused Antarctica to shift its place on the globe and then be covered in ice that they lost all access to their technology and were then unable to keep the Reptilians at bay as they had done in the past.

So it’s really hard. Annunaki is a term that can mean, you know, “from the heavens”, or it’s kind of a blanket term.

David: Right.

Corey: So the Reptilians are often referred to as Annunaki and so are these Pre-Adamites.

David: Okay. We have John 1111:

“Hi, Corey and David. I am a wanderer, and as a result, a friendly, nonviolent person. But I was wondering if I would incur some sort of karmic debt by wanting to destroy Reptilians? Is there anything wrong with wanting to kill the bad guys or should we just let them be?”

Corey: We have to go . . . and this is going to sound really bizarre, but we have to get to a point in our journey – and it’ll probably be well after disclosure – to where we’re going to have to forgive those beings, or it’s going to hold us back spiritually and karmically.

We’re going to actually have to forgive the beings that have been torturing and murdering and enslaving us for millennia.

David: It would appear, if you look at the history of Atlantis, that seemingly benevolent beings, these Elohim, did decide for Atlantis to be destroyed and that a lot of those lives were lost. So it would appear that maybe on a level bigger than individual human free will that nature itself sometimes does things that resolve some of these issues or dramatically reduce the population of a negative civilization.

Corey: Right. These negative beings, they’re being neutralized and taken care of right now, not only by higher density beings but by the universe itself, by the cycle that our galaxy is going through.

We still have to fight this battle against them. We have to fight for sovereignty, but after we win the battle, then we have to move to a point where we can forgive them, which is . . . I’m not at that point.

David: I also have often looked at what the Cabal is doing, where they think population on Earth is the enemy and population must be attacked.

And my response to that is, if nature sees something out of balance, nature will take care of it. It’s not necessarily our right, or our privilege, if they want to think of it in such a dark way as that, to try to do these things when nature will take care of itself. It has cycles of replenishing and cleansing.

If there is to be a problem, it’s not our job to go out there and try to do this.

Corey: Right. And sociopaths are the ones that usually rise to power in these organizations.

David: There you go. So now we have another one. This is from ARW 575:

“If we are all one, then I presume we are one with the Reptilians and all other entities. How can we evolve if we race around the galaxy battling with other entities? Are we not then just warring with ourselves? It gets confusing.”

Corey: You have mass consciousness. You have the mass consciousness of humanity, and I’ve described, when I was shown this mass consciousness being, that it was a traumatized schizophrenic basically.

David: Yeah.

Corey: There is some sort of a battle, but also a process that the Reptilians are growing and learning from these experiences just like we are. It’s a hierarchical situation.

At the very tip-top, we are all one.

David: Well, what would you say also about the idea in The Law of One where they explain that we live in the illusion, and that the illusion is staged for the benefit of the development of consciousness?

Corey: It’s all about consciousness, the development of consciousness. That’s all they care about, these higher density beings. That’s really the . . . Everyone is like, you know, what is the reason for life?What is the purpose for life?

It’s all about the continual development of consciousness, not only on an individual basis but as a mass consciousness being that we’re a part of.

David: Okay, now we have Selene 2:

“What, if anything, does CERN have to do with manipulating the Earth’s magnetic field? Anything you can offer there would be useful. Many things for your wonderful disclosures.”

Corey: From what I understand, CERN is one of these multipurpose-type technologies. There are different groups of scientists going in, trying to achieve different goals.

They’re using it as some sort of a . . . They’re trying to interact with the Earth’s magnetic field. They’re using it trying to create portals. They’re using it to also develop torsion field technologies.

It is a laboratory that has multiple purposes. It’s not just there to create a wormhole. It’s not just there to interact with the ley lines. It is a multipurpose technology.

David: I’ll just throw in here that in talking with Henry Deacon, he actually worked on CERN for a while as a job. And he said that it is so difficult to actually get the particles to hit each other that it requires people who are intuitive.

And he was one of the people who was psychic enough to be able to intuitively work the controls so that you’d actually get particle collisions.

I’m wondering if that lines up with anything you heard?

Corey: It doesn’t line up with what I’ve heard, but it makes total sense.

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David: Right. Next, we have DJ Miss Mixit:

“Corey, could you please ask some of the beings from higher vibrations the best, most efficient tools for clearing the pineal gland.

“Is there a Hertz frequency I can make? Is meditation enough for me to simply imagine it being cleared?”

Corey: Meditation and diet are the way to go. You want to make sure that you can remove the calcification in your pineal gland, but also you want the pineal gland interacting with your higher self in a conducive way.

So you need to have yourself on the right vibratory level through meditation.

David: I would also just point out, one of the things Peterson said is that the halides, which would be like chlorine, fluoride, etc., pass through the blood brain barrier and attach to the little crystals in your pineal gland, and that’s one of the main things that causes calcification.

Corey: That’s true.

David: So have the beings told you to avoid tap water and things like this?

Corey: Yes, I only drink spring water at home.

David: Okay.

Corey: Right.

David: Next, we have one from Inscizor:

“My questions are about densities. What density would Jesus or the Buddha have been considered to have moved into after being here?

“How about the in-between live state before one is to reincarnate? How does that fit in with the idea of densities of consciousness?”

“Is heaven considered to be the next, say the fourth or higher, level of consciousness, or is it something entirely different?”

Corey: The way densities have been explained to me is it’s all about consciousness. It’s different vibratory states of consciousness.

And once you reach a certain vibratory state of consciousness, as we’ve stated, you can control matter with consciousness.

So you begin to change your environment as you go up the octaves consciously.

David: Okay. We have L. Mensah 732:

“Can mass consciousness toward a specific goal via the Internet be as effective as being physically together in one place?

“For instance, I guess this is Heather Sartain’s episode, she mentioned people being on one continent and how that would affect Earth’s rotation.”

So I think what they’re looking at here is could we do, like a mass meditation and reduce terrorism without everybody having to be in the same room like they were in the original transcendental meditation studies?

Corey: Yes, that definitely does work. You don’t have to be in proximity with other people. But when you get a lot of people that are . . . they have practiced disciplines to where they can meditate deeply, you get a lot of those people in proximity, there is a power to it, for sure.

David: I agree. So here’s another one from Sassafrass 7:

“Good stuff. I have so many more questions. How do the Reptilians reproduce? Do they have a gestation period and then are born similar to mammals on Earth?

“But if they are fourth-dimensional beings, do they need to be born at all or do they just create their bodies with thought? I understand they do eat. Unfortunately, they enjoy eating people.

“I thought a fourth-dimensional being would not need to eat. Does this mean they are doing this only for sport or something like that?”

Corey: Yeah, well, this all goes back to our different belief systems on what dimensions, densities are. A lot of people think that a fourth-density being could be standing right next to us, and we wouldn’t see them. We’d be passing through each other. You know, we couldn’t hold hands with them.

That’s not at all the case. It’s just they have a different consciousness vibration.

What I’d normally say is, what do you consider a dog or a bacteria? You know, second, first-density life, you can interact with them, no problem.

David: Right. Sure. As far as the Reptilian breeding cycle and birthing cycle, is there a sexual reproduction that leads to a pregnancy and a birth?

Corey: Exactly. Yes. And they also use cloning.

David: Okay. Lastly, we have 23 Window:

“I wanted to put something forward. The name ‘wanderers’ and ‘starseeds’ alone come with a positive connotation, but now, I’m hearing that the Cabal or MILABs identify these kids early along, take them, and fractionalize their brains into doing work for the Cabal.

“Weren’t these people sent here in the first place to do good for humanity? Yet, the Draco has infiltrated the Cabal and figured out how to brainwash them and control them for their own purposes.”

Corey: Yeah, they basically hijacked their mission. That’s the whole point. They hijack their mission. They come here with certain abilities, and then they exploit those abilities.

And in doing so, they’re co-opting the enemy the way they see it. They’re causing . . . These starseed beings are coming here to effect positive change on the planet.

The Reptilians, for instance, do not want positive change on the planet, so they’re corrupting these “soldiers” to fight for them.

David: Well, this obviously is not an airtight system in which all people who are wanderers are being completely compromised.

So could you speak to that a little bit, in terms of how would someone navigate this successfully if they are an ET soul and still be able to do what they’re supposed to be doing on the planet?

Corey: Well, stay away from any government organization that tells you you’re special. Ha. That’s number one.

And practice humility, concentrate on your own personal journey, and meditating on what your mission is. And once you’ve been awakened to your mission, go for it.

If you do that, then you’re going to effect positive change and combat the groups that are co-opting the starseeds.

David: That’s all the time we have for in this episode. I’m your host, David Wilcock here with Corey Goode. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” on Gaia. And we thank you for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: TRACING THE ROOTS OF THE SSP WITH MICHAEL SALLA

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode and our special guest Dr. Michael Salla from Exopolitics Institute.

So Michael, welcome to the show.

Dr. Michael Salla: Thanks for having me on the show, David.

David: Thanks. And Corey, good to have you back, buddy.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: I was talking with you about another book that you wrote, “Kennedy’s Last Stand”, and so I’d like to open with that for this episode.

Michael: Well, the book really goes into what Kennedy knew about this whole topic. And the thing that . . .

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David: What whole topic?

Michael: The topic of UFOs, flying saucers.

David: Oh.

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Michael: Kennedy was very interested in that, and so the book looks at his history of trying to find out about it. But one of the things that I did in that book was, I was able to find out that, early in his career, Kennedy was actually a protege of James Forrestal, who at the time was the Secretary of the Navy.

Corey: The Navy, yeah.

Michael: And so Forrestal took Kennedy . . . This was before Kennedy became a congressman or even entered politics. And Forrestal, at the time, wanted to recruit Kennedy to his personal staff.

So Forrestal took Kennedy on a fact-finding trip to Germany in July and August of 1945. So this is after the war.

You had the Navy there, the Army there, basically pouring over everything that the Nazis were developing in terms of secret technologies and trying to find out what it was that they were going to bring back under Operation Paperclip – scientists and technologies.

So Forrestal . . .

David: So even though they fled to Antarctica, it wasn’t like they got everything out.

Michael: Exactly, yeah. The Germans still had a lot of really advanced stuff down there. Certainly, as far as the Air Force and the Navy were concerned, the stuff that the Germans were working on in occupied Europe was just way ahead of anything they had.

So the Navy was there trying to work out what it was that they should ship back to the U.S. to work on in their top secret laboratories.

David: Let me ask you this. Did the U.S. have captured German soldiers and scientists who were telling them what was there? Or were they just going into an abandoned building and then trying to poke around and look for things?

Michael: Oh, they had both. They had a lot of scientists, engineers, that were trying to cut a deal, trying to get a favorable place to live, or maybe even get repatriated to whatever country they were originally from, or even to the U.S., . . .

David: Right.

Michael: . . . people that had documents that wanted to cut a deal. People knew where the secret laboratories were.

So you had all of this happening, and so the Navy and the Army had their top intelligence teams in there trying to sift out exactly what was available.

David: All right. Sorry to interrupt, but I think this is really important, too.

In case people are younger, they don’t understand this, Kennedy is not just an ordinary family. We have a background on the Kennedys in which Joseph Kennedy, the father of all the Kennedy brothers, was well-known as a bootlegger, and had made a significant fortune.

Michael: Well, yeah. He was a very successful businessman. I mean, he did a number of things, and bootlegging during prohibition was one of the things.

David: Right.

Michael: But he’s probably best known for being the ambassador for the U.S. to England just before the Second World War.

David: Okay.

Michael: And he was also, along with James Forrestal, the . . . he became the first, I think, it’s the President of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

David: Oh, really?

Michael: So this was . . . So he was really at the apex of the financial system in the U.S. at the time.

David: Right, because the SEC is what’s regulating the whole stocks and commodities markets, and all that.

Corey: Yeah. And the tie-in to Forrestal is obvious. Forrestal pops up in ufology everywhere.

David: MJ-12, right?

Michael: Right, yeah. He was on the MJ-12 committee. And Forrestal, he was the guy that worked for a major financial company Dillon and Read. And so he was picked by the Navy, by Roosevelt, to actually help the Navy prepare for the war, because he had the expertise, the knowledge of major scale industrial manufacturing, and the Navy needed to really change in order to deal with the pressure of fighting two wars.

Corey: There are some interesting tie-ins between Forrestal and William Tompkins, are there not?

Michael: Very important. According to William Tompkins, Forrestal was the guy that picked the admiral that would run the top secret Navy program that was going to be trying to get as much information as they could on what the Nazis were doing, in terms of secret space technologies.

And Forrestal was also the guy that somehow was influenced by Nordics to pick Rico Botta to actually play this role.

So Forrestal was in communication with these Nordic extraterrestrials. And that’s a part of what I discuss in the new book, “The U.S. Navy’s Secret Space Program”, the way in which Nordics extraterrestrials were helping the U.S. Navy, right across the spectrum in terms of – from the very beginning to the very end – in the Navy’s developing a secret space program.

David: Do you think that at the time that Forrestal is bringing Kennedy over to this very recently defeated Germany, to get into all the good stuff, do you think they already had a plan with Joe Kennedy that his sons were going to run for president?

Michael: Well, that may have been a factor in why John F. Kennedy didn’t accept Forrestal’s offer . . .

David: Oh, he didn’t?

Michael: . . . to join his personal staff, because Forrestal wanted to recruit Kennedy to his personal staff, and because Jack Kennedy died and – you know, his brother, his older brother died – the father, Joe Kennedy, wanted John F. Kennedy to now enter politics.

David: Oh.

Michael: And so that was why Kennedy turned down Forrestal’s offer to be a part of his personal staff, and Kennedy then entered politics instead and became a congressman – elected to Congress in 1946.

David: Well, do you see, in your research in “Kennedy’s Last Stand”, any other evidence that Kennedy was actually given briefings or was made aware of some of what was going on with the extraterrestrial question?

Michael: Well, not so much as far as the extraterrestrial question is concerned, but as far as Nazi Germany’s advanced programs, he was given access to all of it. I mean, he knew what . . .

David: Really?

Michael: . . . was going on, that Forrestal actually was showing Kennedy all of these advanced technologies and Kennedy wrote about it in a book that was published posthumously, called “Prelude to Leadership”.

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Not many people know about this book . . .

David: Never head of it.

Michael: . . . but it’s a book, written by John F. Kennedy, about his time in occupied Europe, and in Germany, in particular. But the important thing to keep in mind here is that at that same time as Forrestal was showing Kennedy all of these captured German technologies, that Forrestal was the guy that was ultimately in charge of the Navy’s secret espionage program in Nazi Germany, where they were getting all of this intel about Germany having two secret space programs.

And so Forrestal was looking, on behalf of the Navy, for anything that he could find about Germany’s secret space programs.

And so that meant that Kennedy knew about all of this, as well.

David: Right.

Michael: And so this is an important historical fact that that book really articulates, that because of Kennedy’s exposure to this whole phenomenon of advanced UFOs, flying saucers, extraterrestrial life – the kind of information Forrestal was sharing with him – because of that, when Kennedy became president in January 1961, that Kennedy really made an effort to get to the bottom of this whole phenomenon and really get power back, in terms of the president running these secret projects, rather than the projects becoming autonomous, as happened under Eisenhower.

David: All right. I want to ask you one more question about Eisenhower, and then I want to toss it back to Corey for a clarification.

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We know that Eisenhower ordered this invasion of Area 51, as we talked about in our last episode. And in his infamous closing remarks as he leaves office, he warns about the acquisition of unwarranted influence, either sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex, and then he hands it over to Kennedy.

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Have you researched whether there was a conversation between Eisenhower and Kennedy about what Eisenhower had experienced in that transition of power?

Michael: Well, we know from official records that Kennedy met with President Eisenhower twice while Kennedy was President-elect, that they met in December and in January.

And the January event was just a couple of days, two or three days, before the farewell address. So I think it’s fair to assume that whatever Eisenhower shared publicly is much, much less than what he shared privately with Kennedy.

David: Now, you’ve undoubtedly done research on this idea that some kind of benevolent extraterrestrial group met with Eisenhower.

So for those who are not familiar with that, could you just talk a little bit about your knowledge of the Ike and ETs event?

Michael: Sure. Well, I think that there’s so many different whistleblowers who’ve come forward and witnesses, that we can kind of get an idea of the chronology of these different meetings that Eisenhower was a part of.

That starting in February of 1954, that Eisenhower traveled to Edwards Air Force Base, and he met with a positive group of extraterrestrials – what Bill Tompkins describes as Nordic extraterrestrials – and they kind of really emphasized to him the dangers of developing nuclear weapons – thermal nuclear weapons at that time were being deployed; these were hydrogen bombs – and that the Eisenhower administration should follow a more peaceful policy and be open to receiving more spiritual, more ethical information.

Eisenhower, I think, personally, was very impressed by the Nordics, but his national security team said, “No, we’re not going to give up nuclear weapons, and we’re not going to listen to this kind of spiritual, ethical upliftment talk at all.”

So then Eisenhower met with another group of extraterrestrials in February of 1955, this time at Holloman Air Force Base, and this was a group of Grey extraterrestrials, tall Greys, that basically reached agreements with Eisenhower in terms of sharing their technologies.

The Greys weren’t too perturbed that the U.S. was developing thermal nuclear weapons, and so that’s where the agreements began with the Greys.

David: The alleged Tau IX Treaty that led to the formalizing of abductions and all that.

Michael: Right, exactly. And this, of course, all happened after the flyovers in 1952, the Washington flyovers, where you had those craft flying over.

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And, of course, the big debate is, were they extraterrestrial or were they Nazi? And, of course, we’ve had different stories on that, but what Bill Tompkins and what Corey have said, as well as Clark McClelland, is that these were Nazi craft.

And so that suggests that the subsequent meetings that happened, these were . . . The agreement that happened after the Holloman Air Force Base was with a group that was allied with the Nazis.

And interestingly, one of the witnesses that was at Holloman Air Force Base in 1955, he actually referred to that Nazi element.

David: All right. So Corey, what was your personal knowledge of extraterrestrial contacts with presidents? When did that first start? Did anything happen with Truman? Did anything happen with Eisenhower, in terms of what you were told, yourself, on the inside?

Corey: There were meetings with Truman and Eisenhower. Eisenhower was meeting with groups that he mentioned, non-terrestrial groups, as well as one called the Blues.

He had a number of meetings where Nazis flew in in these flying saucers, landed it on bases, and came out and had meetings with, I mean, actual Nazis, as well.

David: And we’ve briefly touched on the Blues before, but this is a fascinating area for me because I was able to independently confirm what you said with Pete Peterson.

So could you describe for us, why were they called the Blues? What did they say and how was it taken?

Corey: They were called the Blues because they had blue skin, and their agenda was peaceful.

Much like the Nordics, they were advising us not to dabble in nuclear energy or weaponry. They also were giving us spiritually uplifting information, information about consciousness, stuff that the military really had no use for.

And much later on, they were referred to, and the Nordics, they refer to them, jokingly, as ‘space hippies’. Although there were no hippies in the 1940s, later on they were called that.

David: What was the deal that the Blues were offering? What would we have to do to get their cooperation?

Corey: Give up nuclear weapons. Give up the pursuit of nuclear weapons.

David: But what would be the payoff for us if we did? What were they offering as the carrot?

Corey: To begin to help us spiritually, to integrate with other civilizations.

David: Now, you had mentioned very briefly Clark McClelland, and that’s just popped up on the radar screen recently in a new insider correlation with Tompkins.

And I’m sure you’re familiar with that, so could you share with us how McClelland has suddenly popped into the story?

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Michael: Well, with Clark McClelland, he was a spacecraft operator for NASA at the end of his career. Prior to that, he worked for about three decades for various NASA contractors.

So he had a bird’s-eye view of what was happening at NASA, and so he was able to confirm what Bill Tompkins had to say, that NASA had been infiltrated by Nazis.

Clark McClelland, for example, said that when he went to the office of Kurt Debus, who was the first Director of the Kennedy Space Center, that McClelland met Hans Kammler.

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9 Hans Kammler

And Kammler was the Nazi SS General that ran their Secret Space Program in occupied Europe, trying to weaponize the technologies – the Die Glocke or the Nazi Bell – that Kammler was in charge of all of this.

So here you have Kammler, in the 1960s, at the Kennedy Space Center meeting with the director.

And so McClelland was able to confirm that that was actually happening, and so that was confirmation, or really strong corroboration, for what Bill Tompkins was saying about the way in which the Nazis continued to have this undue influence over the entire NASA space program, and had actually infiltrated the military-industrial complex.

And that’s one of the things that Tompkins says, that the military-industrial complex – various companies and various military organizations – found themselves almost in a kind of proxy war between these different extraterrestrial factions: the Nazi Reptilian group that were trying to infiltrate and take over the U.S. military-industrial complex, and then another group, the Nordic extraterrestrials, who identified the Navy as really being the one U.S. institution that was kind of much more aligned, or supportive, of U.S. constitutional values.

David: For those who are watching this show who are not familiar with Clark McClelland, I know what his background is, but I’d like for you to share in your words.

What was the big sizzle – his testimony about the Space Shuttle going back years ago – that we’ve all encountered?

Michael: Well, what he did was, he actually said that he saw on the NASA live feed, an incident involving the Space Shuttle, where there was another craft parked near the Space Shuttle – another spacecraft – and there was at least two different types of astronauts accompanying the NASA astronauts, or the Space Shuttle astronauts, who were out there doing a space walk.

He compared the size of these astronauts from this foreign spacecraft. They were around 10-foot tall compared to the NASA astronauts.

So he had a diagram illustrating what he had seen, and so he spoke at length about this as being evidence that there was a Secret Space Program program with alien astronauts that were somehow collaborating with the NASA space program.

David: So one of the things that you’ve gotten into, in some of your more recent work, is this idea of how the fictional tales that are told in movies, and comic books, and now video games, of course, regular books by science fiction authors, like Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, how were they being influenced by what was going on from the things you’ve learned firsthand talking to Tompkins and other insiders?

Michael: Well, one of the people that Bill Tompkins identified as being a key player in the Navy’s development of a secret space program was Admiral Leslie Stevens.

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Now, Admiral Stevens, he was actually a contemporary of Admiral Botta, who was running the Navy program out of San Diego, learning all about the Nazi space program.

And what I’ve been able to determine is that, through Freedom of Information Act [FOIA], that Stevens and Botta actually served together on at least one committee.

So this was something that really supported what Bill Tompkins was saying, that Stevens was involved in this and was very familiar with the Navy’s Secret Space Program.

Well, the important thing about Admiral Stevens is that he had a son who had the same name, Leslie Stevens, so Leslie Stevens IV. He was the producer of the famous show, “The Outer Limits”.

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12 The Outer Limits

And at that time, around 1964, ’65, Gene Roddenberry sat in on the set of “The Outer Limits”, to kind of learn from Leslie Stevens how to put together a science fiction show.

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David: Wow! Let me interrupt you just really briefly because this is amazing. So I’m sitting with one of my insiders, who we call Daniel, and he’s the guy that allegedly worked at Montauk, where they back-engineered a seat from a UFO, got it working, and you could sit in the chair, meditate and create a portal that could actually send people through space and time.

And one day he was talking about what happens when you use some of these technologies, and it creates a little orb that can look where you want to have it look.

And he said that the name of this thing was an “outer band individuated teletracer” or OBIT.

And we go online, and I just said, “Hey man, let’s just look this up right now, and see if . . . has anybody ever leaked this information?”

“The Outer Limits” . . .

Michael: Exactly.

David: . . . had an episode called “Outer Band Individuated Teletracer” – exactly the same. And then, the actual description of it was that it was a device that could do all surveillance in all places at all times.

So that showed me right away, okay, “The Outer Limits” has got to have some kind of insider connection.

Michael: And one of the things about Leslie Stevens’ father, the Admiral, he actually ran the psychological warfare operations for the National Security Council.

David: Wow!

Michael: So he was in charge of that. And Leslie Stevens IV, the producer of “The Outer Limits”, his background was military intelligence. So he actually served for military intelligence, and because of his expertise, I believe that what he did during the Second World War was psychological warfare operations.

So then what I’ve been able to deduce from my research – and it’s in the new book – is that Leslie Stevens IV was basically working with his father, up until his father’s death, in psychological warfare operations, in trying to introduce some of these breakthrough ideas as a form of soft disclosure in the media and entertainment industry.

So when we have “The Outer Limits” being created, you have Gene Roddenberry sitting in on it after the failure of a series that he had earlier put together, which was called “The Lieutenant”.

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So it was all about a Navy lieutenant. So that flopped. It only lasted, I think, one year, possibly two years.

And so Roddenberry was advised by his agent to come up with a science fiction show.

So he sat in on “The Outer Limits”, and according to people that were there, Roddenberry and Stevens had reached an information agreement, in terms of Roddenberry would get all the information from Stevens about developing his science fiction series, and he would get all the credit – that he wouldn’t mention Stevens.

David: Wow!

Michael: And that’s exactly what happened. And so then we have, of course, the creation of “Star Trek”.

And if you look at “Star Trek”, some of the main forces, there’s an uncanny parallel with the main groups that Bill Tompkins was talking about.

So in “Star Trek” you have the Confederation of Planets. You have the Vulcans. The Vulcans, we can compare them to say the Nordic extraterrestrials, trying to help humanity.

You also have the Klingons, who would be represented by the Reptilians today.

David: Wow! Okay.

Michael: And then you have the genetically enhanced humans, which were the Nazis.

So if you look at the development of “Star Trek” as a series, the main protagonist in that series, there’s an uncanny resemblance to the major extraterrestrial groups and factions, Earth factions, that were involved in these secret space programs right throughout the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s.

David: So another show that really pops up in my mind, Michael, is “Battlestar Galactica”.

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Did your research turn up anything about “Battlestar Gallactica”?

Michael: Well, what was really significant about “Battlestar Gallactica” was that the creator of “Battlestar Galactica” was Glen Larson.

 Larson

And Glen Larson actually worked under Leslie Stevens.

David: Oh, really?

Michael: He worked with him. They shared a lot of talent. Leslie Stevens was the senior, and so Larson had reached a similar kind of agreement with Leslie Stevens where Stevens would come up with ideas and help Larson in developing a science fiction show.

And what’s interesting – and this we’ve learned from people who have later on interviewed key people that were involved in the creation of “Battlestar Galactica” – was that the pilot episode of “Battlestar Galactica” was actually written by Leslie Stevens IV.

David: Really?

Michael: So you actually have the son of a Navy Admiral that was involved in the Navy’s Secret Space Program, writing the pilot episode for a new sci-fi series that he would not get any credit for, but would actually go under the control and be all credited to Glenn Larson.

David: Wow!

Michael: And so, again, this kind of shows that the Navy, through Leslie Stevens, was wanting to have these ideas, the truth of a Navy Secret Space Program and different forms of extraterrestrial life, including artificial intelligence, because that’s what “Battlestar Galactica” really focuses on, is the danger of artificial intelligence.

And so Glen Larson, in that series, just developed the whole idea of extraterrestrials that are having to deal with this conflict with different AI life forms who are intent on eradicating the human creators of that life form throughout the galaxy.

And this is something that kind of dovetails with what Corey has revealed. I remember Corey talking to great length about the danger posed by artificial intelligence, and how AI was screened by the different secret space programs because of the threat.

So this, again, is just confirmation that this was very real material that was being seeded into the public domain through these movies.

David: Do you think . . .

Corey: The truth is definitely stranger than fiction.

David: Do you think that this Leslie Stevens connection is why you hear Naval whistles when people walk into the room on “Star Trek”?

Michael: Oh, definitely. Yeah, I mean, you look at “Star Trek” itself, I mean, it’s all based on this, kind of like, . . . they use Navy procedures and the rankings are Navy.

David: Right.

Michael: The Star Fleet – they talk about Star Fleet Command and all of that. So, yeah, they use a lot of Navy terminology in “Star Trek”, and I believe that’s because the Navy was getting Stevens to leak this stuff out into the public arena through soft disclosure.

Because I think what the Navy really thought, through the 1960s, that eventually, by the time that they had finished building their battle groups that were deployed in the early 1980s, that disclosure would have happened by then.

David: Oh.

Michael: So I think that “Star Trek” was part of an effort by the Navy to kind of seed these ideas into the public consciousness, so that at some time in the future, when the truth was revealed that the Navy had the know-how to build these space battle groups, that the public would come on board and support it, and so the Navy could continue to develop this and expand it.

David: So Michael, I have some documents here that show some really amazing work that you’ve done in terms of taking the Tompkins’ story that we’ve all been dealing with now, and bringing it into this Freedom of Information Act academic research arena that ufology is known for.

So the first one that you have here . . . it’s from U.S. Naval Air Station San Diego signed by Rico Botta.

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18 Rico Botta S Signature

So what’s going on here with this particular document?

Michael: Well, with this document, this was something that William Tompkins put into his book, “Selected by Extraterrestrials”, and basically these were exit slips that he could use to be able to leave Naval Air Station San Diego with documents, with briefing packets, which is a key part of his story.

David: Right.

Michael: But in terms of verifying, well, is this real? Are these exit passes real? Do they have information on them that can be independently corroborated?

So that’s what I tried to do, and I used the FOIA Information Act documents that I received to corroborate that these exit passes were actually signed by a person who actually was in charge of Naval Air Station San Diego at the time that Tompkins said that he received the permission to take these packages out. And then that, of course, concerns Rico Botta.

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David: It says here that it was for “issue of non-combat airplane.” Ha, ha.

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Michael: Well, that’s right.

David: So what the heck is that?

Michael: Yeah, well, what that document shows is that Tompkins not only was given permission to take these briefing packets out of Naval Air Station San Diego, but he was also given permission to use a plane – to take an actual non-combat plane that was owned by the Admiral – to deliver these packages.

So this is corroborating a key part of Tompkins’ story that he took these different briefing packets to various aerospace companies throughout the U.S., especially the west coast of the U.S. at the time, the different military departments and so forth.

So it’s really . . . Corroborating this document helps determine some key elements of his testimony.

 Rico Botta

David: Okay, now here we have a photograph of Rico Botta, Lieutenant Commander of the U.S. Navy, August 27, 1934, and then his signature.

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And what’s so interesting about this, Michael, is that in this next document you showed us, you have compared that signature on that photograph to the signature that was on the release for the packages, and they’re basically identical. I mean, it’s the same signature.

So how did you get this picture of Rico Botta? Where did that come from? Let’s talk about that first.

Michael: Well, that picture of Rico Botta, that came from his Freedom of Information Act files, the 1,500 pages of documents that I received.

David: So you filed for them, and you actually got them in the mail?

Michael: I filed with the aid of an attorney.

David: Okay.

Michael: His name is Duke Brookhouse and he has been helping with these FOIA requests.

And so, when we got the documents, I went through them and identified the ones that helped corroborate key elements of Tompkins’ story.

So this particular document, with his signature and his photo – even though it’s dated from the early 1930s – clearly shows that the signature is identical with what was on those exit passes that Tompkins gave.

So that is independent corroboration that Tompkins’ document is genuine. And that’s very important that you actually . . . Tompkins’ exit passes . . . those two exit passes showing that he had permission to take these briefing packets out of San Diego Naval Air Station, that that’s a genuine document.

So that’s a very important part of corroborating his story that he was able to take these to different facilities, and that he was given permission to actually use an airplane to fly these to the different locations.

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David: Okay. Now, the next one here, it says Navy Department, Bureau of Navigation, Washington, D.C., dated September 30, 1942, from the Chief of Naval Personnel to Captain Rico Botta.

And the thing that really jumps out at me here, it says, “Proceed to the place (or places – in the order given) indicated below, for temporary duty.”

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And then you look down here, it says that this is “in connection with inspecting experimental aircraft and for conferences in connection with [David clears his throat to emphasize this part] aircraft matters:”

Then you get this list of “U.S. Army Air Force Experimental Station, Muroc, which we’ve all heard about the Muroc base, Douglas Aircraft, Northrop, Naval Air Station, San Diego, Consolidated Aircraft Corporation, San Diego.”

This is crazy. What is he talking about with “experimental aircraft and conferences in connection with aircraft matters?”

Michael: Well, this is, again, another document that independently corroborates various aspects of Tompkins’ testimony, that Tompkins says that he was taking these briefing packets to those facilities, as well as many others.

So this document confirms that Botta, prior to this operation that Botta oversaw in Naval Air San Diego, Botta had traveled to some of these same facilities, and that these facilities were conducting experimental aircraft research. And that Botta was the Navy’s guy when it came to understanding experimental aircraft research, and that Botta was being prepped for this new assignment, because visiting those facilities happened less than two months before he was transferred over to Naval Air Station San Diego.

So he was being prepped for that new assignment coming up, where he would be receiving intelligence from Navy spies in Germany about the Germans’ secret space programs. And that once he received the intelligence from the Navy spies, that he would then instruct Tompkins to carry briefing packets to those facilities that you just mentioned, as well as many others that Tompkins said.

So, you know, again, this is another important document that independently verifies that Bill Tompkins’ story is credible. And, of course, . . .

David: How did we get this document?

Michael: That came through the Freedom of Information Act.

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David: Okay, so another document we have here is dated February 25, 1942, which, for the real UFO freaks, you’re going to know that, because that is immediately after the infamous Battle of Los Angeles.

And what we’re having here is Navy Department, Bureau of Aeronautics, from Washington, and it is orders for Rico Botta to have additional temporary duty. And it says for him to proceed, on about March 2, 1942, to Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, i.e. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

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Michael: Exactly.

David: Holy crap! This is amazing!

Corey: Smoking document!

David: Ha, ha. I just want to throw it across the room, it’s so crazy. It’s like, wow! So talk . . . I know what I’m seeing here, but talk us through, in case people aren’t as excited as I am right now, as to why this is so significant.

Michael: Well, February 24 and 25, 1942, is when you had the famous L.A. Air Raid incident. And according to documents that have been released, The Majestic Documents, and according to what Bill Tompkins has said, there were two flying saucers that were retrieved after that crash – one by the Navy, one by the Army Air Force.

David: So some of them did get shot down.

Michael: That’s what we’re told by The Majestic Documents and what Bill Tompkins said.

Now, the one that the Army Air Force got their hands on was taken to Wright Field, which was, at the time, the Army Air Force’s premier research facility for foreign aviation technologies.

David: “Foreign.” Yeah, ha, ha.

Michael: So this was taken, . . . or this craft was retrieved, on February 25, and it was being taken to Wright Field at that time.

Now, on this very same day, Admiral Botta, who is the head of the Navy’s Powerplant Division at the Bureau of Aeronautics, gets orders to travel to Wright Field in early March, to basically do some work over there.

David: Right.

Michael: And the timing . . .

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David: It says, “In connection with engine development.” on the same document. What kinds of engines are they trying to develop here?

Michael: Right, so . . .

David: Probably anti-gravity. So, yeah.

Michael: So that’s a smoking gun document . . .

David: That’s incredible.

Michael: . . . that really shows that Botta was the guy that the Navy had tapped as their expert in understanding these foreign technologies – anything to do with extraterrestrial craft or Nazi craft – that Botta was the man.

And so he was nominated to go to Wright Field to really look over what it was that the Army Air Force had gotten their hands on from the L.A. Raid.

Corey: And did you say that, in an earlier conversation we had, that Rico Botta was an engineer?

Michael: That’s correct. Yes, he was an engineer. He was an expert on engine development, on power plants.

Corey: Power plants.

Michael: He was, actually at the time, the Chief of the Power Plant Division for the Bureau of Aeronautics. So he was the guy that really understood what it was that needed to be done in terms of developing high-capacity engines for high-performance aviation maneuvers.

And so if you’re talking about craft that were capable of spaceflight, he was the guy that would be able to give you insights into that.

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David: Right, and you have this document right here from March 15, 1946, where it says that, “his outstanding technical knowledge and skill, Rear Admiral Botta enabled his department , , , “ blah, blah, blah “. . . for combat aircraft . . . with the latest combat-improved changes . . .”

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So it’s clearly . . . You have documents here saying that he’s involved in upgrading the quality of technology of combat aircraft engines and energy technologies.

Michael: Right. Exactly. That was his duty while he was working at Naval Air Station San Diego from 1942 to 1946, that he was the assembly and repair officer.

And so his job was to basically upgrade the performance of all the Navy jet fighter craft.

And in addition to that, he was also learning about what it was that the Nazis were doing in developing jet engines and also trying to weaponize flying saucers, because you had to consider that the Navy had to be prepared that the Nazis were going to succeed in developing weaponized flying saucers.

So the Navy was looking to Botta to provide the expertise and the leadership for how to deal with that contingency. But it didn’t happen, fortunately, but Botta was the guy that the Navy had tapped to lead that effort.

David: You also have actually interviewed people associated with Rico Botta, and so could you tell us a little about that and what, in just a few minutes, is the most interesting takeaway of your research, up until now, in that department?

Michael: Well, I’ve been able to have conversations with the grandson of Rico Botta, who was able to confirm some really interesting things about Botta’s contacts with the leaders of the aviation industry at the time, that he was personal friends with Jack Northrup and William Boeing, that Botta was also someone that continued to meet with senior Navy officials.

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One official that was named was Admiral Mark Hill, who was Botta’s military aide while Botta was the head of the Navy’s Armaments Section at Philadelphia Naval Shipyards, that Mark Hill was helping Botta there as his military aide, and that after Botta retired, that Mark Hill, as an active officer and he became a Rear Admiral himself, continued to visit with Botta and have conversations.

And so, to me, that’s pretty strong evidence that Botta’s insights and knowledge about these very advanced technologies was something that was being shared, even up until the time of his retirement and subsequent death, with very senior Navy officials.

David: What do you think is going to happen with this forensic reconstruction of history in time? Will we be able to eventually get new insiders, and new whistleblowers, and really get a reconstructed view of 20th century history? Do you think that will happen?

Michael: Oh, definitely. Yeah. I think that’s what’s happening now, is we’re starting to get the chronology of how the Navy developed its Secret Space Program, involving these enormous space battle groups, and that as these names are identified, and we start to track down relatives or others that worked with them, we’re probably going to find others that are willing to talk about what it was that they experienced.

So we’re trying to do that now, and I’m hoping that in this investigation of Admiral Mark Hill and Admiral Botta and his relatives, that we’re going to have more names popping up.

David: Corey, do you have any last thoughts before we close the episode?

Corey: It’s been amazing to me, the entire process of Tompkins coming out. He’s literally providing the information, or a lot of the information, I observed in the glass pad. And to see someone come out that was giving that intel, or delivering that intel, it’s a very strange synchronicity.

And the fact that he had no idea I was coming forward – all of it seems orchestrated.

David: And we’re now getting this actual nuts and bolts documentation – connecting dots, interviewing survivors – to actually show forensic reconstruction of the whole history of what led up to you eventually being in something that most people think is just completely outrageous and beyond belief.

Corey: Absolutely. And Dr. Salla’s latest research is just bolstering it more and more.

David: Well, I want to thank you, Michael, for coming in. I think these are really groundbreaking episodes that will be of extreme historical importance as we get into Full Disclosure.

And I want to honor you for your contributions in really bringing the academic spectrum in on this whole question of our “Cosmic Disclosure” show.

Michael: Thank you, David. It’s been a pleasure. And thanks, Corey.

Corey: Thank you.

David: Thank you. And I want to thank you out there for watching. You are a very important part of “Cosmic Disclosure”. With your support, telling your friends about it, we are lifting the laughter curtain. We are bringing real academic interest into something that was so far outside the norm of what UFO researchers used to talk about, and yet, as you’re seeing, it all adds up beautifully.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode, and our special guest, from Exopolitics Institute, Dr. Michael Salla. Thank you for watching.

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David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode. And in this episode, we are going to get into the social and global implications of this virtually civilization-defining disclosure that apparently is coming our way after all this time.

It finally looks like we’re going to get at least some of the truth, and the effect is almost unimaginable.

So, Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: What the heck is going on with Senator John Kerry going to Antarctica on Election Day? What the heck was going on there? Why was he down there?

Corey: A lot of big names are going down there. Apparently, these people are being given tours of a city that was discovered under the ice a couple of miles, as well as technology, including spacecraft.

(Pete Petersen has stated that Obama and Trump have also went to see the ruins. Obama was evidently told “You too will go through a leaf grinder if you say a word, even if you breathe it at night while you sleep”. According to Pete the President doesn’t get much respect, so this is contrary to what many believe. Most Americans believe the President is in charge, unfortunately that may not be the case)

David: I heard from [Pete] Peterson independently that there are a bunch of names that have gone down there that are not public, and I’m wondering if you also heard that.

Corey: Yes.

David: So this is basically like the big tour that everybody’s getting – everybody who’s on a sufficient level of “need to know” or importance to this group is going down there.

Corey: Yes.

David: What kind of stuff is happening when they go down there? What are they seeing?

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Corey: I don’t know exactly what each individual is being shown, but I know that some of them have been shown these cities that they’ve excavated under the ice.

They’ve also been given a ride in spacecraft that have been recovered under the ice.

David: Actual recovered spacecraft?

Corey: Right.

David: Well, that’s very interesting because that ties in with something that I heard from Pete Peterson regarding Buzz Aldrin.

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(According to Pete Petersen, when Buzz Aldrin was given a tour he was amazed. When they took him on a trip in a recovered spacecraft Pete said he heard that he said “holy shit” like 7 times. He had a window to look out of and was amazed at how fast the spacecraft moved. Evidently this is what contributed to his little illness episode. Buzz told the media “I started to feel a bit short of breath so the staff decided to check my vitals,” Aldrin said on the website. “After some examination they noticed congestion in my lungs and that my oxygen levels were low which indicated symptoms of altitude sickness. This prompted them to get me out on the next flight to McMurdo and once I was at sea level I began to feel much better.” Perhaps the spacecraft moved so quickly that it induced altitude sickness in him. Some speculate he had an heart attack, but who really knows; we do know he went to the hospital though.)

So why do you think he might wear that shirt, where it’s describing traveling to Mars as an astronaut, while he’s going down to Antarctica?

Corey: Well, maybe he’s looking for a climate change on Mars. You now, that is a strange thing, especially now that we know that the ruins under the ice originate from beings that came from Mars.

(Corey and David have elaborated in previous episodes that Mars underwent some kind of catastrophe. They were forced to relocate because their planet couldn’t sustain life anymore. David and Corey have shared that the asteroid belt in our solar system used to be a planet called Maldek. This planet was destroyed in some kind of cataclysmic event. David has shared that his insider Bruce told him that a Civilization on Maldek was creating a weapon around Saturn. It was a Ring capable of sending some kind of Earthquake like attack to other planets to destroy them. When they got 2/3 done with the weapon, their enemies came and destroyed this weapon and their planet too, Maldek. This catastrophe had a devastating effect on the moon Mars and it destroyed their atmospheres. Which is why Mars is the way it is now) 

David: And you said before that we can trace that all the way back. These people have a full unbroken historical lineage to Mars.

Corey: Right. They trace their lineage back extremely far and off of this planet.

David: So the interesting thing here is, based on what you just said, Pete’s independent testimony to me when I called him and talked to him about what you were saying corroborated so many things, but then there was other stuff that you hadn’t said.

And one of them was Buzz Aldrin reached a 200,000-mile altitude and said the impolite equivalent of “holy crap” seven times as he accelerated to that altitude because it was so fast.

Then he said that Buzz was taken around the back side of the Moon, got to see all of the Manhattan-type of lights that are there, all the structures, and then passed by a base that was over Antarctica as they came back in, and they gave it what he called a wing wave.

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And that this apparently was what . . . The whole experience was so shocking to him that this is what caused him to have a heart attack.

I’m wondering if – since Pete said that so many of the assets of the space program that he’s aware of are now over Antarctica – does this whole situation sound plausible to you that this could have happened?

Corey: It does sound plausible. I don’t know the positions of the different MIC-SSP assets.

David: But this idea that the acceleration is so quick that somebody who is used to rocket-based travel might be really shocked. Does that make sense?

Corey: Oh, yes. And they most likely were on their lowest setting because normally it’s so quick you don’t . . . It’s just kind of a blur.

David: So we’re also hearing from Pete that there is a steam excavation method. You had mentioned steam excavation. But then Pete specifically said that they take large bags of water into these existing holes that are dug down in the ice. They drop the bag, and as the bag is about to hit where the ice is, they then hit it with these very high-powered microwave beams, and it all turns to steam and then, whoosh, it melts more of the ice.

Corey: That’s how they open up a tunnel down . . . or open up a corridor down to an area. The rest, they do by hand with hoses with pressurized steam. They couldn’t do that around the artifacts or it would destroy it.

A lot of what is being discovered under the ice are . . . They are finding palm trees still in the ground. They’re finding all sorts of prehistoric animals under the ice still preserved.

David: Wow!

Corey: And they’ve been bringing those back to the United States and Europe for study.

David: So you also mentioned to me in briefings that you got that this is a disclosure that is planned for a specific purpose at a specific time.

(Corey Goode has shared that some of the Antarctica ruins are going to be used in a partial disclosure narrative. According to what he’s heard they’re going to reveal these ruins to the public and also some ancient human bodies. They wont be revealing the Pre-Adamites bodies though. The Pre-Adamites are the beings that came from Mars after the catastrophe. They created a settlement in Antarctica around 500,000 years ago. After the catastrophe of Mars and Maldek. They also plan on revealing some spacecraft to the public as well; specifically the one Buzz Aldrin took a tour on.)

And that’s a very important subject. And I think it’s going to become the meat of this episode.

So we’ve been talking about the idea that this is going to come out, but we haven’t gotten really into why or when or what is the agenda. So could you give us the overview?

I know some of what you got were no-questions briefings and things like this. What is the overview of – why is all this being done, and how is it going to be used?

Corey: Well, the plan that the Cabal, and I guess the Earth Alliance, have agreed to is that they are going to release bits and pieces of the Antarctic information once there is a catalyzing event – that being they start arresting the Cabal or they start setting up tribunals.

David: ‘They’ meaning the Alliance?

Corey: The Alliance.

David: Because people might think it’s extraterrestrials if they don’t know any better.

Corey: No, the Alliance.

David: Okay.

Corey: But the Alliance is also kind of working with members of the Cabal. They’re trying to come together to find a way to ‘responsibly’ disclose information.

READ: A Message To The Earth Alliance

David: So what we have is a situation in which the Alliance does want disclosure to occur, but they feel that if we were to get all of this at once, it would overwhelm us? And so they’re picking something maybe more local, more associated with less of a leap in belief systems than UFOs and aliens?

Corey: Right. What they plan on disclosing first is that maybe, “We found a bunch of prehistoric animals. It’s amazing.” Then, “Oh, we found remnants of a civilization,” and then only report that it was a human civilization that was very ancient.

That alone is going to blow the minds of most people.

They’re going to unroll over decades . . . is what they plan.

Then they plan on announcing that we have a secret space program, and that, “By the way, the secret space program have found similar ruins around the Solar System.”

Once that occurs, then they’re going to start getting into the nonterrestrial aspect of the discoveries in Antarctica.

David: So only after they’ve done the SSP and other ruins like this in the solar system will they then talk about what you said they are calling the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria – these three 30-mile-wide motherships they found under 3½ miles of ice?

Corey: Correct.

David: So that’s pretty late in the game.

Corey: Yes. And the SSP Alliance does not want it to unfold this slowly. They want to rip the Band-Aid off and have a Full Disclosure immediately to everyone.

(The SSP Alliance is a group of individuals mainly from the Solar Warden program that want full disclosure of all secret space programs. The solar warden was a creation of the Navy. William Tompkins has shared much information on the history of the Solar Warden and how they came to be) 

David: What do you personally think is the right move?

Corey: I think that we need to just get it over with and have a Full Disclosure. I understand that it’s going to cost lives. It’s going to cost people their sanity in some cases, but we’ve got to get on with it.

If you do it in a controlled way, the key word is ‘control’. There’s always a way for someone to come in and corrupt the process.

David: In order to keep going on this thread, I want to just really clarify something else, which is part of what you just described – the tribunals. We only really briefly touched on that, but I think that’s really important.

Is there a plan for the Cabal to be brought up on public charges? And will there be some sort of remediation of our financial system and the damages they’ve done to us in that process?

Corey: What I was told is that they were going to attempt to do tribunals in secret, but that was not going to be allowed to happen. It would be leaked immediately.

(The problem I have with this Earth Alliance is there willingness to keep playing the game of lies and deception. They want to continue to keep secrets from the public and withhold vital information. We cannot heal as a race if we continue to distort the Truth to our own desires. It is time for the Truth to take the center stage. This Alliance may think they’re doing what is best for humanity, but in reality they fail to understand the great healing power of the Truth. By blocking the Truth, you block evolution. We as a people cannot fully move on until the Truth is revealed)

David: So if it’s going to be something that can’t be done in secret, that’s going to be leaked, what have you been told? Or what do you think this is going to end up turning into?

Are we going to see this on all the major cable news channels?

Corey: Yes. Yes.

David: There will be big broadcasts, which we did have with Nuremberg after World War II.

Corey: Right. They want it to be televised, even though very disturbing things are going to be covered.

But the plan is to do tribunals in secret, because the tribunals are not only going to be on the Cabal, they’re going to be on certain members of the Earth Alliance as well.

David: So do you think that there are going to be some people who – perhaps major politicians – will be having public tribunals and others who are so deeply involved in the off-the-books side of this stuff that they will not be televised?

Corey: It just depends on how things break after the tribunals are leaked. It’s going to be very dynamic.

David: Okay. Now, we’re also dealing with crimes against humanity that are staggering in scope. And it seems rather hard to believe that we could have tribunals in which such staggering and multiplicitous crimes are being pinned on to multiple individuals.

It seems like even the minimum of due process that someone would be owed, in terms of the right to a fair trial, and then the number of people who might be implicated, that we could be looking at something that could take years to unfold.

Corey: Oh, yeah.

David: Do you have any sense of who they might try to do first in this kind of a process? Who would they go after first?

Would they go after major political figures, people that are the most recognizable, people who are the highest level criminals?

Corey: You can’t go after a piece at a time. You have to decapitate them, and you have to bring them all shoulder to shoulder in front of the magistrate at once. You can’t do it in bits and pieces, or it’ll just fall apart.

David: Do you think that there might be some sort of mass arrest that precedes this in which all of the people who will be on trial are then brought into some sort of holding facility where they’re kept under guard and could not easily escape, if at all?

Corey: It’s possible. A good number of them are already under house arrest.

David: But what does house arrest mean for those who don’t already know that term?

Corey: They get to sit in their mansions, sipping tea, with armed guards outside not allowing them to leave.

David: Now, you’ve also said before that there’s been a lot of these Cabal folks that if they feel the heat is on, they’re going to try to flee to maybe Argentina, South America or Antarctica, and that there may be a sudden number of people who all want to resign at the same time or something like that.

Will they be able to evade justice?

Corey: I’ve received reports of bases that were controlled by FEMA . . . that they were supposed to turn the bases over after this election. They were ordered to turn them over, and they refused.

So they sent in Marines. The Marines cut through the concrete, the rebar, the reinforced steel, and gave everyone in the complex one chance to surrender.

If they don’t, they’re ordered to wipe them out. I heard this from one source, and another source told me that it wasn’t true, but it seems that you’ve independently . . .

David: [Pete] Peterson confirmed the same thing. And it was another one of these very shocking correspondences that led me to understand that the MIC-SSP we’ve been talking about – the Military-Industrial Complex Secret Space Program – is actually working with Pete and with you at the same time.

Corey: Right.

David: There were way too many things that Pete knew that you told me off the record.

Corey: The Marines that breached this one base I was told about and were in the middle of wiping out all of the inhabitants, they were shocked. They were not briefed that nonterrestrials exist or that they may run into them.

And these were like Special Forces Marines guys. All of a sudden they’re in front of Reptilians, and they’re doing battle with Reptilians.

And their psyches couldn’t handle it. They had a huge problem.

David: This is also something that was exactly confirmed by Pete. And about the only difference is that you just mentioned Marines, and he said that some of the people that were used were Canadian Marines as well – Marines who were trained and based in Canada that were then tasked with this.

So we’re talking about something that we’ve thought was going on for a long time. We see these strange earthquakes underneath Italy, strange earthquakes off the coast of Argentina, strange earthquakes off the coast of Malibu right actually directly around where people think there is a base off the coast of California.

So are these strange earthquakes, like in Italy, in South America, and so forth, all a part of this massive purging of underground bases?

In other words, what’s the scope of this that’s being done?

Corey: There has been quite an underground battle going on. Both sides are fighting as hard as they can right now.

David: It kind of shocks me to have heard from Pete that he got a call about how to dispose of 15,000 bodies, and they didn’t really know how to do it.

It kind of shocks me that actions are being taken where the Cabal is either being given the choice to surrender, they have one chance, or everyone in the base is eradicated.

It’s going to lead to people in the Comments Section saying, “If this is the Alliance, then what the heck is the Alliance?”

I will just tell you – before you answer the question – that as I’ve wrestled with this in my own mind and heart over the course of days – because I don’t want to support killing innocent people at all – the only rationale that I can come up with maybe for why the Alliance is doing this is that they feel as if this is an absolutely necessary thing to save the planet from total destruction, and that therefore these are casualties that are necessary in a very serious World War III that’s just a shadow World War III that we’re not aware of.

Corey: Well, if people out there are under the impression that angelic humans are going to come down and save us, they’re wrong. These are very damaged human beings that are a part of the Alliance.

Most of the time they were forced to work for the Cabal, and they resent it. They know that the Cabal would give them zero quarter if the tables were turned.

David: Right.

Corey: They’re not giving them quarter as well.

David: So would you say that there is some kind of decision that has been made that these people are so dangerous if they’re not neutralized that they would try to, for example, nuke the planet or give everyone a virus or give everyone a catastrophe, like a volcano or a tidal wave or something like this?

Would they try to destroy all human life if they weren’t wiped out like this?

Corey: Well, these are military-minded people, and the point is to complete an objective with as few casualties as possible. So that is the way they head in to all of these situations.

They are not going in looking to take prisoners or to ferret out who is innocent or not innocent in a base.

They’re ordered to go in and clean out the nest, and that’s what they do.

David: So let’s also just briefly touch on this idea that you can confirm that this is a multi-year operation that just happens to be coming to a head around the time of a presidential election, but it is not determined by the outcome of the election itself. It was already underway. It just happens to have converged.

Corey: Right. No matter who would have won the presidency, there would have been . . . things were already occurring underground.

David: And it would have led to tribunals on the surface.

Corey: Right.

David: Which gets into things that we saw in WikiLeaks and all this kind of stuff, all paving the way for that.

Corey: Correct.

David: Another one of the things that you said to me, or kind of said to me, that also was in Benjamin Fulford’s intel that I then got even more specifics from with Pete Peterson, was this idea of all of the – or at least the great majority – of the aircraft carriers from the US defense community have been brought back to port.

(Interestingly enough Benjamin Fulford also was one who was sharing information about these underground bases being attacked, cleared out and destroyed as well. The link above also has Benjamin’s statement of all aircraft carriers being returned to port.)

So I want to hear what you had to say on that, and then we’ll compare what Pete told me and try to make some sense out of what’s going on here.

Why would all of the aircraft carriers have been brought back to port? Fulford reported this. I asked Pete, and he confirmed it.

Corey: Well, there’s a number of reasons. You’re going to bring back all of your craft when there’s going to be a reshuffling of the DOD [Department of Defense].

David: Right.

Corey: So there are things going on in multiple levels.

David: So you’re going to have different people in command?

Corey: Right.

David: Okay.

Corey: So there are probably captains being swapped out, all kinds of stuff. I haven’t heard a whole lot of details about why they were back, except that they were back.

David: What Pete said to me was that these ships take six months of people working 24 hours a day, seven days a week, to be restocked.

And he said that they were being restocked with technology that we were not “supposed to” find out about for 100 years.

You had mentioned drones, and you had mentioned that there are certain drones that we might see.

So before I say what Pete said, could you talk to us about the information you were given in these briefings regarding drone aircraft?

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Corey: Sure. That we are going to start seeing more and more quadcopter-type vehicles around. They look like passenger cars with four propellers on them – four sets of propellers – that give them lift.

And they use a type of artificial intelligence – believe it or not – in the craft to allow it to have automatic air traffic control, landing. The people don’t fly them.

They get in, put in a destination, and it will fly itself.

And what I was told was that this technology would be very prolific. You will see it everywhere. They will be flying all over the place.

And they were planning on a number of years after this was commonplace – this technology was commonplace – they were going to replace the rotors on the drones with this technology that is antigravity.

And what I was told is that the antigravity craft fly in much the same way as drones with yaw, pitch. They’re controlled in very similar ways.

David: Isn’t it interesting that the sequel to the movie “Independence Day” has what looks sort of like conventional military aircraft, but with these disc-like gravity generators on them?

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Corey: Uh-hm.

David: Do you think that is a premonition of what this is actually going to look like once they do it?

Corey: Yep. They’re going to be flat, disc-shaped.

David: Okay. Interesting.

So Pete had said that we’re going to see some of the same military hardware that we’re already familiar with in there, but that there’s so much of a redesign with all this new stuff that they weren’t going to show us for 100 years. It’s all being put in.

It’s not like we might see it all immediately after they go back out from port, but the point is they’re now going to be on the ships and that it includes these three different sizes of drones that we see in these Hollywood films.

So what do you think is going to be the purpose of having three different sizes? I’m wondering if you actually heard about the three sizes?

Corey: Well, they’ve got all different types of these – what we’re calling drones. And they have different purposes like you have different sized aircraft for different purposes – delivering weapons, delivering personnel. Some of them are very large and deliver large numbers of personnel.

What I’ve also been told is that they’re retrofitting certain types of helicopters, certain types of aircraft, with this technology that we’re talking about, and that we’re going to be seeing a lot of retrofitted already conventional craft that we’re used to.

David: I want to say this because people are going to say in the comments – and I want to give voice to that because it will obviously happen; we can anticipate this – you look at movies like “The Terminator”. You look at movies like “Oblivion” with Tom Cruise and Morgan Freeman, in which drone aircraft are under control of malevolent AI, and the drones become a critical element of humanity being completely subjugated by nasty AI.

You’ve mentioned an AI problem. If these are computer-controlled drones, how do we stop this AI menace from actually taking control of all of these drones if they are deployed and trying to subjugate humanity?

Corey: I don’t know the answer to that. That’s a danger. It’s a current danger.

I still get screened for AI when I go certain places. So it is still a concern.

David: So there’s a couple of things that happened around the time of the presidential inauguration that were very anomalous, and they both happened almost simultaneously.

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One was that we have the Mexican drug lord of the Sinaloa Cartel – this guy who they call El Chapo – actually being extradited to the U.S.

So let’s talk about that one first. And the reason why I bring it up is that multiple Benjamin Fulford updates said that if he could be brought to the U.S., which the Cabal was staunchly resisting, that he would sing like a songbird.

So what do you think is the reason why El Chapo was brought to the U.S. at that time?

Corey: I believe he’s here to talk about all of the intelligence operations that involve the drug trade and name names.

David: And I want to point out in one of the episodes of my show “Wisdom Teachings”, we have a news story of guys being caught smuggling cocaine into the U.S. with the Sinaloa scorpion logo on them. And it was a massive amount.

And then when they were asked to produce ID, they had CIA identification. And they were caught by this group of 1,500 minutemen who are working . . . they’re like former military, but they’re not really part of a regular government operation.

(It’s of my opinion that El Chapo wasn’t in charge of the drug trade. There is much speculation that certain aspects of our government, more specifically the CIA are running the drugs trades to pay for their black projects or USAPs(Unacknowledged Special Access Programs). There was a article published on April 24th 2015 where a group of 7 militiamen were patrolling the US-Mexico border when they witnessed a black suv shoot across into US territory. They proceeded to chase the vehicle for 15 miles until they were able to stop it. There was two people inside the car with CIA badges and 1363 pounds of cocaine. So it is entirely possible that certain aspects of our governments are the ones in responsible for most of the drug trade.)

So what do you think is the relationship between that story and this El Chapo story?

Corey: I believe that they’re ramping up for tribunals. I believe that – as I’ve reported – they’ve had Cabal people that have turned state’s evidence, that have been singing like birds for a long time.

They’ve been sitting them in front of cameras, asking them all the questions, and they’ve been spitting out ALL the deep dark secrets.

David: Another thing that happened right before the inauguration is that both George Bush, Sr. and his wife, become hospitalized in critical condition with what appears to have been either heart attacks or stroke-type of stuff, which, of course, would be due to high stress.

Corey: I think the election was more than most of us could bear.

David: Ha, ha. Do you think that they are fearing some sort of tribunal, and that once they saw this result that that caused their health to collapse?

Corey: All of these people are in great disarray and have a lot of anxiety right now – the people that were involved in these Cabal operations.

There is a lot of movement going on in the background to close bases, to clean up their active operations – the active operations of the Cabal.

So they see all of their assets disappearing around them, and that’s what made them feel so secure in the past.

David: As you were giving me these stunning briefings, and as I was getting confirmation independently from Pete, I was living through what’s now being called the biggest amount of rainfall and flooding to hit California since 1986.

We go from no rain at all – hardly – for six years, absolutely devastating drought that they say is never going to go away, and at the time of this taping already, the drought has been completely eliminated in Northern California. It’s gone. It’s totally over.

And they were saying, “Well, there’s still kind of an extreme condition in Southern California,” but then more storms are coming in that have totally saturated Southern California. So we’re probably going to see Southern California drought-free as well.

And there’s so much water that they’re calling it “an atmospheric river”. So what do you think is going on here?

Corey And David

Corey: The information I was given is that while the Alliance has been going and taking over a lot of these bases, they have taken over these HAARP facilities [High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program ].

And what I was told was that when they shut off all of the HAARP facilities, there was an elastic snapback reaction of the atmosphere.

David: That would dovetail very interestingly with this weird arctic vortex that popped over the entire North America.

Corey: Right.

David: So do you think that’s part of what they’re talking about – the snapback?

Corey: Yes.

David: Okay.

Corey: Yeah, that it’s the Earth naturally snapping back after the weather patterns had been augmented for so long.

David: Now, that’s similar to what Pete said except that his intel was that the actual HAARP is being used benevolently now to directly steer this atmospheric river to California.

What would be the reason for why the Cabal might have been trying to eliminate water to California?

People think, “Oh, those hippies just don’t get to flush the toilet as much.” But there’s something going on here. What do you think was the objective for this drought?

Corey: The Cabal had been using HAARP and other technologies to control weather all over the planet. And when they control the weather or cause droughts or cause deluges, they are also, at the same time, sending their people in to talk to the people that control politically that region and have them manage policy based on getting the weather that they want to be able to grow crops.

David: So do you think that California being thrown into a drought is an attack against all of America and its food security?

(California is a major provider for much of the food around America. They were attempting to make life difficult for us all. This is obviously a plan that was hatched because their afraid of the people. Thus they view us as the enemy and used everything they could to destroy us.)

Corey: Yes. Yeah, that’s the breadbasket.

David: Right. So this is not just something about people not being able to water their lawns in California, it’s an attack against America itself.

Corey: Right.

David: To me, this rain – because I live in Los Angeles – I have been saying for years, we will know when the Cabal is defeated when it starts pouring rain for days and days at a time.

And right in my little hometown, we’ve had so much rain that Topanga Canyon Boulevard has been shut down for like a week.

Corey: Yeah, I saw a giant boulder blocking the road.

David: That’s right.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So the last thing that was in these briefings that I want to get to before we run out of time here, is you mentioned two other things that were very interesting that might come out along with Antarctica.

You mentioned rooms filled with gold, and you mentioned other ruins that might be seen on the seafloor.

Corey: Some unusual intel that was given to me, and it was somewhat out of place in the rest of the briefing, was that there was going to be a “discovery” of caches of ancient Mayan gold.

David: Wow!

Corey: And that this was going to be discovered and given back to the indigenous people.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah.

David: And it was fascinating on that front, because I brought this up to Pete that you had mentioned that to me, and then he had a huge story about rooms filled with gold that were actually found by Bush, Sr., and, in that case, plundered. And so there’s a lot of corroboration.

Hopefully, we can get him back to talk more about that.

The other thing you’d mentioned was undersea anomalies or bases or ancient ruins of some kind that would be announced maybe at the same time as Antarctica. Could you say more about that?

Corey: Or maybe just before.

David: Oh, just before?

Corey: The various navies of different countries for many decades have been discovering all types of ruins at a certain level below the ocean, . . .

David: Okay.

Corey: . . . certain depth, that depth and above. [Corey separates his hands about one foot.] And they have been doing sonar sweeps of them, getting all types of information, sending vessels down there that can properly excavate. And they’ve been bringing out artifacts.

And this is . . . I’m told that this is also going to be a part of some announcement about a lost civilization.

David: So one last thing I want to close with here is, do you think that the Cabal had originally intended this Antarctic disclosure to be some sort of massive distraction, maybe more benevolent, but on the level of like a 9/11 level of distraction to throw people off if these war crimes tribunals were to ever begin?

Corey: No. Originally, they had planned to slowly release this information so that we would see these royal bloodlines the way they do and treat them like gods.

David: Wow! But now you’re saying the Alliance wants to use this as part of the beginning of the healing of how long people have been lied to as the Cabal is brought to justice.

Corey: Right, right. And the Cabal still wants to manage the release of the information, as do many of the Alliance.

David: So do you think that it’s possible that some of the things that we’ve said, or the order in which it’s done, could be changed around by the fact that we’ve already disclosed it now?

Corey: Yes. This is all very dynamic. Decisions are being made. They’re having all types of meetings to come to a consensus between the Cabal and the Alliance.

And they’re doing this to prevent open warfare. If they don’t come to a consensus and find a way to work together to disclose this information and to bring the worst of the worst to trial, then we’ll end up with a world war.

David: And can you confirm, lastly, what Pete has also said, which is that certain websites, like www.express.co.uk – new story, new story, ruins in Antarctica, lost civilization in Antarctica, professors down in Antarctica, Buzz Aldrin goes to Antarctica.

All of a sudden, it’s like there’s some crazy amount of correlation between what little old you and me said and all of this stuff coming out in the media. What do you think is going on there?

Corey: They’re trying to pepper the consciousness with seeds of information so they’re not so shocked when they hear it.

And they’re also trying to control the narrative.

David: All right. Well, you heard it here first. I really hope that this stuff comes true. Thank you, Corey. It’s very brave for you to be stepping out there and giving us this information. The war is getting hot.

Corey: Yeah.

David: It’s very contentious right now.

And I want to thank you out there for watching us, supporting us here at Gaia, and making sure that we are on a path towards Full Disclosure. Thanks for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: ANTARCTICA: THE PROCESS FOR DISCLOSURE

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock, and we’re here with Corey Goode. Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So in our last update we had just gotten up to the point where the dark priestess of the underworld, Marra, had materialized in your room, was acting very sarcastic, as if she had complete control of the situation, and was then portaled back by the Anshar and put in stasis, but they did give you a warning, right?

They said that others like her could show up.

Corey: They stated that there would be some of her kind coming to look for her.

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David: Okay. Meaning that they might also visit you as well and you’d have to defend against them.

Corey: Right.

David: Let’s go from what happens next.

Corey: Sure. And for the record, none of Marra’s people have approached me since then.

David: Okay.

Corey: It’s been fairly quiet.

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Most of my experiences have now been with this MIC SSP.

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I’ve been picked up a number of times, and in the meetings I’ve been giving [given] no-questions briefings by the two airmen that had assisted me up and down the stairs of the craft.

David: And that means you’re not allowed to ask questions?

Corey: No questions. You just sit there and listen. They were filling me in on more information about Antarctica, what has been discovered down there, how it’s being processed, how they plan on presenting it to humanity in stages . . .

David: Okay.

Corey: . . . as well as I was having meetings with who we call Sigmund – the commanding officer. And he has also been sharing interesting information with me, some of which I can’t even discuss because it has to do with upcoming meetings that I’m going to have – more of a terrestrial nature.

David: Okay. So, then we’ve covered the thumbnail of that. Have you also been having Anshar meetings? And if so, what’s the jest of those?

Corey: I have had a number of Anshar meetings. A lot of them, Ka ‘Aree also preparing me for upcoming terrestrial meetings I’m going to have, letting me know that she’s going to . . . for me to not be so nervous. I’m pretty nervous.

She’s letting me know that she’s going to help me in the process. She’s going to be giving me information to communicate.

I’ve also been picked up one time by the Anshar and taken down to Antarctica.

David: Okay, so when we last spoke on this show, we had discussed the idea that there was interesting stuff going on down in Antarctica, but we hadn’t really gotten into this big thing that you were withholding from me. You couldn’t even tell me, and we couldn’t talk about it on the show.

And that’s where our “Endgame II” update begins. So what was the information that you were getting for months that you couldn’t tell me and you couldn’t talk about on this show that we’re now cleared to talk about? What’s going on down in Antarctica?

Corey: Well, according to Sigmund’s men and Sigmund, they have made major discoveries. In 1939, the German expedition to Antarctica had discovered big slabs of rock with ancient writing on them, and they had taken a bunch of photos with them. After that they started a lot of secret expeditions.

David: So these are things that would remind us of stuff like Stonehenge or the pyramids or something like that?

Corey: A little more like Pumapunku or something, you know, that’s really torn up and scattered.

David: Okay.

Corey: So after the Germans had discovered this, they started to, not really excavate for archaeological reasons, they started to clear out areas and begin to use them that they found. They found in cave areas ancient civilization artifacts, and they just moved them out and moved their military groups in and created bases.

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So they weren’t real interested in the archaeology in the beginning, which sounds not very much like the Nazis since they had archaeologists combing, you know, . . . combing Asia looking for certain . . .

David: Especially groups like Black Sun and Vril where it seems like they are very interested in this ancient history.

Corey: Right. It seemed mission was to hurry up and build this base. That was the primary ob . . .

David: Well, the clock was ticking and they knew that they were not going to be able to pull through on World War II.

Corey: Right. So they had been looking into it, doing some digs here and there, over the decades leading up to where they ended up working with the Americans, the industrial complex, military-industrial complex.

They were doing excavations all throughout the decades going all the way back, you know, from the ’50s and ’60s.

Now, since then, in around 2002, they started bringing in actual professors and archaeologists from universities. And these are some people that we would know if you’re into academics. These are people that we will know that have been going and doing digs and research in Antarctica.

And these people have been told that . . . you know, that’s 14 years of research they can’t tell anyone about.

And they’ve been promised that they are going to be brought out in front of the press and allowed to give a briefing and present the documentaries they’ve made and all of the information they’ve collected to the people.

David: And one of the stunning things was that you were being told we had to write “Endgame II” as fast as possible.

Corey: Yeah.

David: And two hours after it comes up, tabloids like the Mirror and the Sun, start repeating this same data that we were getting.

And then the next day after we put the update up, one of those same tabloids, I believe it was the Mirror, actually said that there was a team of scientists that had been in Antarctica since 2002, which you had already told me on the phone.

I hadn’t remembered to put it in the article, but you had already briefed me on that.

Corey: Right.

David: And then there it is in this frickin’ tabloid. And that to me was just so amazing the level of public confirmation of this stuff.

Corey: Right. I was being told that we were going to get scooped, that we had to get the information out immediately.

David: And so you were being told before that came out that, in fact, they had been there since 2002.

Corey: Yes, and what they were finding there is what blew my mind even. They were finding ancient technology that . . . They were finding spacecraft that had been cannibalized to create a new civilization, cities, and so forth.

They found areas that were laboratories for genetic experiments, which apparently genetic experiences had run amok among these Pre-Adamites.

We were finding all types of different humans around, even humans with tails, short humans, tall humans, all different types of humans, along with this original Pre-Adamite being that crash-landed here somewhere between 55~60,000 years ago.

David: What is a Pre-Adamite?

Corey: The alien group, non-terrestrial group, that once inhabited Mars and Maldek, after there were catastrophes mostly from their own doing, and war . . .

David: This was half a million years ago.

Corey: Right. Half a million years ago. Then they end up on the Moon for a period of time.

And then somehow they ended up getting chased off the Moon. There were some attacks that occurred, and after that they fled, but their craft were too damaged leave our solar system or make it to another planetary sphere.

So since they had to crash-land on Earth, they decided that they would go to this one continent that still had working Ancient Builder Race technology that was . . .

David: How old are we talking now?

Corey: The information that was given to me was 1.8 billion years old.

David: What do you mean by technology?

Corey: Well, they only had the technology that they had on these three craft with them. That’s all the technology they had.

So they had to cannibalize and repurpose that technology from the spacecraft once they had crash-landed. And there were three that were extremely large. They were motherships.

And they were referred to as the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria.

David: So just to be clear, it’s not that there’s any actual name connection, it’s just that Columbus’s three ships were called the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria. So it’s kind of like a tongue-in-cheek joke. You have three motherships that crashed on this continent.

Corey: Right. And they have several of those tongue-in-cheek references in this report.

David: And I want to point out, that this was one of the absolutely stunning details in which I start to ask Pete [Peterson] on the phone, “Do you know anything about Antarctica?”

And he independently says, “They’re going to announce that they found a mothership.” He only knew about one – a mothership that was 30 miles wide, mostly circular in shape – that’s been found under the ice.

Corey: Right. And so far they’ve only exposed the area about the size of an ocean liner. But in doing so, they’ve gained access to one of these ships.

And they’ve been going in, flying the craft around that were inside it, checking out . . .

David: Wo, wo, wo. They went inside this 30 mile-wide mothership, and they found craft inside the mothership?

Corey: Yes.

David: And they’ve been able to fly those craft?

Corey: Yes.

David: In the mothership or also outside?

Corey: No, outside. Out of our atmosphere even. They found a number of different types of craft that had different uses, one of which was a very ornate craft that was sort of stupa-shaped.

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David: Like the Tibetan shine that we see so often.

Corey: Right. And they were referring to them as vimanas.

David: Really?

Corey: Inside the program, they were calling them vimanas. Whether they are or not, I don’t know.

But these were only for transporting around the royals. They were different than the other craft. They were decorated and had gold on them and were very ornate.

David: And you said that the beings that were inside these craft were Pre-Adamites, but could you just give us a description of what that means?

Corey: Yes. They range 12~14-foot tall. They have elongated skulls. They were very spindly, thin.

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David: Like Akhenaten, Nefertiti and their children, such as Meretaten.

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Corey: Right. And the men had a flabby pocket on their chests – kind of a flabby chest.

And these beings, they’ve . . .

David: What about skin color?

Corey: The skin color was hard to tell because they had been in a huge cataclysm where they had . . . Some of the bodies, their arms were wrapped around them a couple times. There were big black spots on the skin. They had been under the ice.

They weren’t preserved like you see in the movies like an iceman that you can re-animate.

And the biologists that have studied these bodies, done postmortems on them, have said that these are obviously beings that had developed in a much different environment than ours – a lower barometric pressure and gravitational field.

David: Who do you think, or who were you told, shot them down when they made it to Antarctica?

Corey: Apparently these Pre-Adamites have been in conflicts with the Reptilians for awhile. These Pre-Adamites they stated were not good guys at all, but were in some sort of a conflict with the Reptilians, and had actually kept the Reptilians in check here on the Earth during that time that they had crash-landed here.

There had been a couple other smaller catastrophes that happened where they had lost their power and the Reptilians always find an opportunity to come back in in a moment of weakness.

David: So does it appear then that wars between Pre-Adamites and Reptilians occurs almost from the beginning of when they got here?

Corey: Exactly.

David: Okay.

Corey: But after these cataclysms that occurred on Earth, the Pre-Adamites and the Reptilians sort of had a truce or a treaty. And after that point, the Reptilians pretty much controlled all of Antarctica and the Pre-Adamites had zero ability to get access to their ancient technology, their libraries. Everything was down there.

David: Right.

Corey: The people that survived the cataclysm were mostly the genetic experiments. They had created hybrids because they could not operate in our environment very well. And they created hybrids of them and the humans that were here on Earth.

So after the cataclysm, all of the main Pre-Adamites that were pure blood were down in Antarctica when it occurred.

There was a group of these Pre-Adamites, of this Pre-Adamite bloodline, that was in the Central America, South America region, and there was another completely different bloodline group – both royals – in Asia and Europe.

David: Now, when we’re looking at the descendants of this original civilization, you said that they came here in three motherships. So I just want to be clear that these are the 30-foot wide motherships that we’re talking about.

Corey: Thirty-mile.

David: 30-mile wide. Is that the largest type of mothership that they had?

Corey: No, they found other ships down there as well that are fairly large, but would be like sort of another . . . just a smaller vessel in a fleet.

David: So it’s just that there’s three big ones but there are other craft as well that were found.

Corey: Exactly.

David: I want to get into the connection to biblical scripture because one of the scriptures that’s from the same time as the Book of Genesis, the Book of Enoch, was removed from the Bible but it’s referred to by Jesus. It’s referred to by a variety of people from that era as a very, highly revered text.

And it describes 200 fallen angels crashing to Earth, being giants, and then becoming cannibals who are actually hostile to Earth’s population and were ultimately judged that they had to be wiped out in a big flood.

It sounds like we’re talking about the same thing here.

So what’s the connect with the Book of Enoch?

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Corey: It is and the information that I received was that these Pre-Adamites had come down in a . . . they were in the grand experiment.

They shouldn’t have been down here living openly amongst us, one. And two, they were now . . . You know, the other 22 genetic experiments that these genetic farmer races were conducting down here . . . this Pre-Adamite group started co-opting it and interfering with it. So they had to be dealt with.

David: And just in case somebody’s jumped in and they didn’t see those episodes, you described that when the protective grid [built by the Ancient Builder Race] went down 500,000 years ago after the planet [Maldek] blew up and became the Asteroid Belt, that we then have right away these so-called genetic farmer ET races that are then able to get in immediately and begin taking DNA from all over the galaxy and tinkering with Earth DNA.

Corey: Yes. And as we have been exploring more and more of the ruins down there, we’ve run across rooms that were . . . There were a series of corridors that were sort of arranged the same way you would see a circuit board.

And they were made out of a gold-copper alloy that had weird kind of circular carvings in them that they said were not for people to walk through. It was obviously for channeling large amounts of electricity.

Not far from there, they found the genetic labs where they found all these different types of beings in different stages of being developed.

And I did confirm that it was partially technological, partially biological, how they did these genetic experiments. They would create a zygote, or whatever, and then implant it in another . . . in a human or an animal, have it grow, and then that’s how they incubated them.

They didn’t have all of their technology. They were in survival mode from the moment they crash-landed.

They had to cannibalize all of their technology from inside of these craft, these big motherships. There’s huge areas where stuff has just been ripped out.

David: If they’re trapped on Earth, because they crash-landed, but then you say that there are craft that were found inside that can be flown around, doesn’t that mean that they could have left Earth and gone anywhere else they wanted?

Corey: Well, yes, they could in the craft, but everything that they . . . all of what they had left of their society was now down here on Earth. And these craft are not long-haul vessels.

The little craft that they have are for, you know, scooting around the solar system. They were stuck here in the solar system.

And of the 22 different genetic farmer races, we have the Reptilians, and it’s a hostile place for them to try to fly around. There numbers were small. They were not in a good tactical position.

David: So they could theoretically visit moons of Jupiter, moons of Saturn, places like this, but they didn’t have enough duration of fuel, let’s say, or whatever travel capability, to actually leave our solar system.

Corey: Correct. Right. And it was pretty hostile out in space during that time. They didn’t want to risk an asset like flying it, you know, to Jupiter or whatever. They could lose that asset and they had very few assets left.

But this civilization controlled the entire planet. What little resources they had, they were able to control the planet.

After this last cataclysm occurred, none of the survivors, Pre-Adamite survivors, had access to their technology.

So we mentioned the group that was in Asia, Pre-Adamite group, and there was another one in South America, Central America, they could no longer visit or communicate with each other. They were separated.

David: After the conventional Atlantean catastrophe we’re usually thinking of.

Corey: Right. And they had always had some sort of a competition between these two bloodline groups even before the cataclysm.

This whole bloodline of these Cabal or Illuminati-type people, they trace their bloodlines through these Pre-Adamites.

David: So in the Book of Enoch, they’re describing this group as the fallen angels.

Corey: Uh-huh.

David: So you’re saying these Pre-Adamites with the elongated skulls, that that is the fallen angel storyline.

Corey: It is the fallen angel storyline, yes.

David: But we do have this Cabal, and this is one of the things that our insider Bruce has been saying, whether or not you believe this or not, the only thing that matters is that they do.

Corey: Exactly. Their religion is what . . . I mean that’s . . . Their religion is everything. It’s behind everything they do.

David: Where do we see this Pre-Adamite culture developing? Where did they hide out in the Americas after this catastrophe?

Corey: In South and Central America is where they had set up most of their enclaves. And they had been set up around other Pre-Adamite structures that were now destroyed because of the cataclysm.

There were huge earthquakes that basically liquified the ground and a lot of the buildings, massive buildings, they had just fell apart and fell and sunk into the ground.

They were running the hemisphere. They were mixing their genetics with some of the indigenous people of South and Central America. That’s why we have elongated skulls beings that have a different colored skin but different genetic mix.

They were mixing their genetics with whatever group they happened to be around after the cataclysm.

And going back to the Illuminati religion being based on a lot of what this group did, the Pre-Adamites, you can now see why all of these interesting people have been making trips down to Antarctica recently, including Kerry on election day.

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David: Right.

Corey: And even some of the royals have gone down there.

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David: And now I’m speaking about the idea of some very interesting cargo that was found in those motherships. So could you describe what this precious cargo was that they still had on those ships?

Corey: Well, they had a number of beings that were in stasis. The information I received was that the surviving Pre-Adamites, the bloodline that originally came from another planet, had put theirselves in stasis before this cataclysm occurred about 12,800 years ago.

They have not awoken them yet. They’re trying to decide what they’re going to do.

Now, another interesting note, we do have these archaeologists and employees of various universities that are down there excavating and documenting all of this, but what they have done, they being the Cabal, I guess you’ll say, they have used these large electromagnetic submariines that I discussed earlier to take a lot of archaeological items that they had found in other digs that they were keeping suppressed from humanity, they had them in huge warehouses.

They were taking some of these artifacts down to Antarctica and seeding them. And this one large dig that these archaeologists are going to make public.

They are also removing any body that does not look human. And a lot of the human bodies, they don’t look like they were slaves. They have tunics that have gold thread weaved in the tunics. They look royal.

So they’re planning on giving us a sanitized disclosure, and then over time they will disclose the Military-Industrial Complex Secret Space Program.

And after they do that, they’ll say, “Oh, by the way, yeah, we’ve got this fairly advanced Secret Space Program, and while we’ve been out to other planets, we’ve found very similar ruins as we’ve found in Antarctica.

So they’re going to try to trickle the information down over decades, and not immediately tell us about the ships they found and the high technology and non-humans.

David: You’re not talking about necessarily something that you pick it up and it projects a holographic . . .

Corey: Out of place archaeology.

David: Okay.

Corey: They hide certain artifacts to keep the narrative alive of, you know, the Earth . . . we only have 6,000 years of civilization . . .

David: And you say that they’re actually finding those genetic remains down there now.

Corey: Right. And a lot of the human, I mean like us, humans, that they found under the ice . . . and this was a . . . they’d obviously been hit by a huge wave that then somehow flash froze . . .

David: An ocean wave.

Corey: An ocean wave, yes. And all of the bodies were referred . . . They jokingly, tongue-in-cheek, referred to it as the “Pompeii on Ice” because of the way all of the bodies were found, some of them huddled together. It was very similar.

David: Could you describe for us what you have personally seen? Obviously, you’re getting no-question briefings, but what have you personally seen of what you’re talking about?

Corey: I was taken by the Anshar, in one of their egg-shaped craft, down to Antarctica. And Gonzales was with us.

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When we were taken down there, Gonzales had this like a rucksack that looked like it was military, human military.

David: Okay.

Corey: And when we went down there, he was taking out this like a core sample thing that had a handle on it and a little camera on the end with a long . . . with these long needles . . . looking things . . . that twisted on.

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And he was walking up to each of these bodies, taking either a picture or video, I don’t know, and then sticking the core, the needle, in the body, twisting it, pulling it out, and then dropping the core sample in these little plastic test tubes, and then putting them in the bag as he went on.

David: And you say “these bodies” do you mean Pre-Adamite giants?

Corey: Pre-Adamite bodies. There were these hybrids I personally saw in a fetal position, a very short human that had a tail [Corey spreads his hands about ten-inches apart] – you could see the folds of the skin going down on the back and then the tail kind of twisted out and it was frozen. So he was taking genetic samples.

And in the meantime, just before this, the Inner Earth groups were . . . they took us through a wall that hadn’t been excavated yet. You could just see just a piece of stone sticking up out of the ice and snow.

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It wasn’t far at all . . . there was an excavation going on. There were tall lights on tripods pointed down into pits, and they were excavating.

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They walked us right through the snow and the wall, and this room lit up.

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And the room was full of scrolls, books. I mean, it was obviously a library.

The two Inner Earth beings walked up to one particular area like they knew exactly where they were going, opened up this collapsible box basically, and then started grabbing these metallic scrolls and putting them in the box. They were taking them. And these metallic scrolls were like laser etched with symbols.

The stone was . . .

David: Are you saying that the scroll was metallic or that it was a metallic container for a paper-type scroll?

Corey: They were metallic sheets of metal rolled up.

David: Oh, sheets of metal rolled up.

Corey: And it crinkled as they were picking it up. It sounded similar to tin.

David: Uh.

Corey: And on them, you could see there were like laser-etched symbols, and they were removing those before they were located by the people doing the excavation.

I still don’t know what was on the scrolls or the significance of them. But when we left, they took them with them onto the craft.

David: Thank you, Corey, and I want to thank you out there for watching us, supporting us here at Gaia and making sure that we are on a path towards Full Disclosure. Thanks for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: TRANSFORMATION POWER OF THE GREAT SOLAR FLASH

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. And we’re going into part two of our examination into the great solar flash with our special guest, Jay Weidner, who has been researching this exact subject and how it relates to alchemy and how it relates to Stanley Kubrick and the movies “2001”, etc., for many, many years now.

He’s one of the only people out there who’s been doing this longer than I have. So, Jay, welcome back to the show.

Jay Weidner: Hey, thanks.

David: Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we’re going to get right back to where we were with the Brown Notebook, which is amazing information given to someone who was actually contacted in person – just like what’s been happening to you, Corey – brought on board a ship by benevolent beings, brought up there, given a tour, and then they get telepathic information, which comes in the form of this channeling.

And what we’re seeing here is one of the earliest verified channelings from the 1950s. This guy W. B. Smith gave people a list of 200 questions, and everybody who answered in the same way, he was able to verify, because it was based on classified intel.

So people all over the country who have never spoken to each other, they all could answer these questions properly.

This is a verified channeling. It’s one of the only ones we have. And when you read what W. B. Smith said about those channelings, he said it contained religious-sounding information about the end of the age. But he never went into detail.

Now, look at this. This is mind-blowing.

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“I’m happy to be with you this morning. The things we will talk about this morning are very serious. Humans in their present state on your planet must change in order to survive. Many things will take place on this planet. Therefore, you will have to change with the planet.”

Now check this out.

“This solar system is moving into an area of space where the vibrations are much higher. This will cause changes in your planet’s features. It will also cause changes in your peoples. The vibrations on the planet will become higher. Therefore, you will have to raise your vibrations in order to exist on your planet. These vibrations can only be raised by the peoples’ thinking.”

Jay: Well, there you go.

David: I mean . . .

Jay: Wow!

David: That’s the money shot right there.

Jay: That really is.

David: Now, Corey, do you think, based on this, that if the Sphere Alliance is putting up an outer barrier around the Solar System, and these ETs, these Draco, Orion-types can’t get out, do you think that, based on this kind of information, that they’re just not even going to be able to exist if they stay in here once this happens?

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Corey: That’s exactly what the Sphere Being Alliance communicated to me.

David: Oh, they did?

Corey: Yeah. And not only the Draco, but other non-terrestrials that are here intervening. They will not be compatible with the new vibration, or energy.

David: Let me just play devil’s advocate for just a moment. Don’t you think it’s possible that, for people in the Cabal, that if they’re looking at these benevolent ETs, or allegedly benevolent ETs, as actually facilitating things like the fall of Atlantis, which we talked about last time, things like this, in which there actually is a mass death of negative beings, don’t you think that the negative beings could see these benevolent beings as terrorists?

Corey: Oh, yeah. Yeah. They’re going to see them as the enemy, of course.

David: Because they just want to be able to go on doing what they’re doing forever and not be interrupted.

Corey: And according to their theologies and philosophies, they’re doing what is ‘good’. So they see these, what we call benevolent beings, they see them as evil.

David: Now, Jay, why do you think it’s necessary for these negative entities to physically expire?

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Jay: Well, because they’re dictators of the whole Solar System, and this is a good thing.

Fulcanelli tells us in his chapter on the Cross of Hendaye that many beings will die when this event comes, all right, but not all. And I think he was really talking about this cleansing, a cleansing of the whole area and getting rid of a lot of negative entities.

So I think that they are going to die, and I think that they’re really worried – very worried. And I’ve heard this from other sources, not just Corey.

David: I mean, how bizarre is it that we got this guy – I think it’s Nebraska or something like that, in the middle of Nebraska – [who] doesn’t know anything about ancient prophecy? He’s just an ordinary dude, gets brought up there, and they start giving this information through him.

Jay: Definitely my sources have told me that in the 1950s aliens began telepathically talking to very good humans, giving them information in order to facilitate the evolutionary shift of the human race to bring us into a larger manifold. That’s what I’ve been told.

And the Sun is a central part of this thing. And the change that the Sun is going through is a central part of this thing.

David: Now, Corey, in The Law of One – we discussed this already – there was a statement about the idea that the illusion of space-time is granted for us to have the experiencer of seeing the results of our actions.

Do these . . . Is death part of the illusion of space-time?

Corey: Well, I guess it would be, since we’re having our experience within that medium. But death is a part of also the learning experience.

David: So these beings aren’t really dying per se. They’re just being removed from one level of the planetary or interplanetary game.

Corey: They’re being, I guess, recycled.

David: Right. And because space-time is ultimately an illusion, it does appear that these potential . . . that these periodic mass catastrophes, although there is the appearance of physical death within the illusion, that it’s more like gardening, right?

Jay: Hm mm.

David: It’s like plowing the field to harvest.

Jay: Yes.

David: What is the harvest? What happens, Jay?

Jay: Yeah.

David: It’s the tilling of the soil, right?

Jay: That’s right, yeah.

David: So what do the alchemists think about this idea of the metaphor of rebirth? They’ve used the ‘new dawn’ language in this.

Jay: Yep. They are not . . . They don’t believe that death is the end. They believe that you want to extend human life to give each human enough time to figure things out. And they think we’ve been somehow messed with, so we have a short lifespan. And so we can never figure things out.

We die at like 70, 80, and that’s it, right? And it’s really not enough time to actually figure things out.

So alchemists try to do things to extend their life so they have more time here to figure it out. And the alchemists lore is that the average human can live to be 300 to 800 years old.

And just imagine if we lived to be 800 years old, how the world would be changed. There would be no wars, because nobody’s going to fight war if you’ve got 780 years left to live, right?

David: Sure.

Jay: You’re not going to have children until you’re 200 years old. You’re going to be very wise when you have children. Your children are going to be very wise.

You go to college until you’re 150. You know what I mean? I mean, it’s just a completely different world, and they’ve denied this to us.

The patriarchs in the Bible lived to be 900 years old, so . . .

David: Right.

Corey: Well, even the oldest and wisest among us right now are still spiritual children.

Jay: They are. And it’s a very important part of our future to have us live longer lives. I think that’s part of the vibratory change that’s going to happen. And we’re going to start living longer.

We already are actually living longer lives. When my grandparents were in their 60s, they looked like they were in their 90s, right? Nowadays, people in their 90s looked like people who used to be in their 60s.

Corey: And it’s not because of all the pharmaceuticals we’re pumping through them?

Jay: Ha, ha.

Corey: Ha, ha.

Jay: I hope not. Again, the pharmaceuticals could be a way to mitigate the shift that they don’t want, right?

Corey: Yes.

Jay: Right? The fluoride in the water – when did it happen? The 1950s, right? And what does fluoride do? It calcifies your pineal gland.

Corey: Well, on that point, they do put things in the food and water that have metals and things that bring down our density, that keep our density lower.

Jay: That’s right. We know that.

David: Well, the first Project Camelot whistleblower, alias, Mr. X, said that he was going through documents at a military defense contractor, and documents from the 1950s described that meeting with what you were calling the Blues and Eisenhower, in which the government denied them their request to bring us into a peaceful age as long as we had nuclear disarmament.

But then they said, “If you cover this up, you can get away with it up until 2012, and at that point we’re coming back whether you like it or not. There’s nothing you can do about it.”

So, Corey, since so many of these prophecies have revolved around the year 2012, the Mayan Calendar end date – there were crop circles that said it – does it appear, since you’re got this date range of 2018 to 2023, that maybe we got an extension to have a little more time from what the original intention of the end date was?

Corey: You know, I don’t know, but it’s become very obvious from the panic and how quickly things are changing in the programs that the 2018 beginning date has obviously moved up.

Things are happening very quickly. So I think things are happening before these different Cabal groups had planned out. They were using these different techniques to view the probable future, getting information from non-terrestrials, and they were basing their plans on that – on that date.

David: Well, we’re actually not done with The Brown Notebook. And if this hasn’t already blown you away, there’s more to come. So let’s check that out.

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“Thinking better thoughts of everything in the creation, more spiritual thoughts, thoughts that will lift the people of Earth out of the darkness and mud they have lived in for so long. The principal of free will still exists. You may change and live on this planet in a true divine kingdom, or you may choose not to and destroy yourself and then be reincarnated back in another third-density, materialistic world, where you continue to try to learn your lessons. You should change so you can see the revealing of this divine kingdom. This has been a rather long message, so I will leave you now.”

David: So what they’re saying there is the idea of planetary recycling, people being transported.

So, Corey, when we have these giant Spheres coming into the Solar System and then The Law of One source says that their job is the management and transfer of planetary populations, how do the Spheres . . . do you think . . . is it possible that those Spheres will be transporting people to other worlds once this transition is complete based on what we’re seeing here?

Corey: It’s absolutely possible because that’s how they’ve transported me.

David: Ah, right. So why wouldn’t they have the technology to portal out people by the hundreds of millions or billions?

Corey: Oh, yeah, easily.

David: The same way that they just did with you.

Corey: Yeah. And if they can use these Spheres to contain the entire Solar System, that’s child’s play to them.

Jay: And I’ve heard from high sources that they can just – “pfshht” – pick you right up and take you away. It just happens in a flash. And a lot of these missing people disappear this way, I think.

David: Absolutely.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Now, this is another quote from a later session. It’s the same kind of thing – totally amazing.

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“This planet and solar system are moving into a new area of vibrations in which the conditions as they are now on this planet will not survive. That is why the people of this planet must learn the truth concerning the divine creation. Love, peace and harmony is all that will exist in the true creation. Many will not believe our story, but if they do not they are not punished . . . They are simply [David clears his throat] removed to another planet, in a just manner . . . where they will try to learn their lessons of love, peace and harmony all over again. . . .”

Jay: Interesting.

“People of all planets must live in love, peace and harmony if they are to receive the full blessings of the divine kingdom.”

Jay: Nice.

David: So once again, they’re reiterating that everybody has to learn this, and if you don’t get it, you continue your education on another planet somewhere else. And again, this seems totally to be what’s happening with these Spheres.

We’re actually seeing the technological or more measurable physical aspect of how they all kind of come in at the last minute right before this thing’s going to happen.

Corey: Right.

David: Do you think . . . I mean, the Spheres have to be here to do something, don’t you think, Jay?

Jay: I do.

David: They’re not just there for show.

Jay: I do. This is very interesting, because, I mean, you know, that’s . . . it’s almost like the New Age Rapture. It makes you wonder if this is where the Rapture and all of that came from.

David: Absolutely. Let’s go on [and] have another one, because this is actually talking about the Cabal now and then why that change is necessary.

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“Others try to rule by force. This should not be. Free will was created, but why should the wrong thinking of a few be forced upon many? All of these things are making an unbalanced condition on and around your planet. At times, the [father-mother-god] has to rebalance some of the planets and solar systems. That is what is about to take place on your planet. Conditions on your planet can cause unbalance in the whole Solar System, so it must be balanced back into the harmony of the creation.”

Jay: There you go.

David: So doesn’t it sound like here, if they’re saying . . . and they’re using a patriarchal term, but as people are reading, “the Father has to rebalance the planets and solar systems.”

Doesn’t that sound like the idea of these Spheres, like the Outer Barrier and all this kind of stuff?

Corey: Well, yes, because one of the things that was explained and shown to me was that these Spheres were spaced out throughout our Solar System and acting as a buffer, like a harmonic buffer, for these energies that were coming into our Solar System to give us more time to acclimate and adjust.

David: And it says here that the “rule by force” is creating an “unbalanced condition” and that they will, or whoever this Father is that they’re talking about, has to rebalance what the Cabal has done.

So the defeat of the Cabal is obviously of key importance in this solar-system-wide rebalancing, which they’re saying is some kind of flash of energy from the Sun.

I mean, to me this stuff pays off everything we’ve been talking about. It’s just amazing.

Jay: It certainly is. Now it goes back to what I’ve heard was happening in the ’50s. And again, everything happened in the ’50s. Everything started there.

Corey: Oh, yeah.

David: Tompkins’ data was that 1,500 different people were getting . . .

Jay: 1,442 people. The intelligence agencies had discovered 1,400 people who were in telepathic communication, just normal people, not physicists or anything. There were physicists, but others were guys like this guy from Nebraska and uncovering amazing amounts of knowledge, including Tompkins himself, who was receiving one of the 1,400, and he was receiving information about how to build space vehicles and things like that.

Corey: Now, is this “the 1,442 contactees”?

Jay: Yeah.

Corey: They call them “the 1,442”?

Jay: Yeah, “the 1,442”.

Corey: Huh.

David: Tompkins, in his book, describes that the people he’s working with are throwing him these impossible questions and saying, design us a transport vehicle to get from cavern A to cavern B, and we need it by Saturday.

And he has no idea what he’s going to do, and then he just channels it. And then they don’t tell him what they’re doing with it.

Jay: No. And he’s unsure of where he’s getting the information from. At the same time, he doesn’t know how he could possibly build a ship that can house 300 people in a weekend. Ha, ha.

David: And then he concludes that they must be getting it telepathically from extraterrestrials.

Jay: Yes. Right – good extraterrestrials. And you think about if what Corey is saying is true, there’s bad ETs here. You don’t want to really face them. So how would you defeat them? You would do it this way. This is the most intelligent way to do it.

David: Balance the Solar System.

Jay: Yeah, balance the Solar System by taking good people, like this guy is, and feeding them information and getting him to release it. This stuff should have probably been released in the ’50s.

7 Brown Notebook 5

David: Yeah. So now this little quote, I’m not going to go into too much detail except just to say that it says, “I am your teacher and friend Hatton” at the end of the top one, and then “I am Latue” at the bottom one.

Hatonn and Latue are the two beings that were talking to Carla that she was channeling before she starts to channel The Law of One.

So these same beings found their way to Carla. Here’s the beings – they’re naming themselves – that are giving us these prophecies.

So they’re still out there. Nebraska guy is not online anymore, but they jump over to Carla, and they start giving her the information. And that’s what tuned her up to be able to receive The Law of One.

Jay: Right.

BAIRD WALLACE: GRAND SUMMARY

8 Publication Date Of The Space Story

David: So now what we have here is this book by Baird Wallace that summarizes all of what these different contactees were saying in the 1950s and ’60s. He puts it all together in one unified message.

9 The Space Story And The Inner Light

And I’m going to show you the publication date, June 1972. [i] scanned it right out of the book. You could probably still find this if you really look for it. It’s called “The Space Story and The Inner Light”, and I’m going to read you some quotes from this. We’re not going to read it from the typewritten form here. You can pause it on your TV if you want to see that.

I’m just going to read it in a nice, favorable way like this.

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“The contact information states that our Solar System is at this time in transit. . .” – remember this is 1972 – “. . . from the Third to the Fourth Density . . . ” [David: There it is. That’s all the way back before The Law of One. They’re already using the word ‘density’.] “. . . of the System of Vela . . . “ [David: That comes from George Van Tassel’s information.] “. . . and that this change which literally is a transition into a new area of space is happening now. This movement changes the vibratory rate of the magnetic energies in the nucleus of the atoms of our world now.”

David: So, Jay, this sounds a lot like alchemical.

Jay: It is. It is. Fulcanelli intimates several times in his book, “Mysteries of the Cathedrals”, that the entire human race is an alchemical experiment.

Corey says that 22 different races have come here to experiment on us. Other people have told me the same thing. And I think that, if I may, the experiment, I think, is, can we take a guttural creature, like in “2001”, and transform them into a very advanced spiritual being?

That, I think, is the main experiment. There’s other experiments, like Corey says.

Corey: But you’re right. It’s genetic and spiritual. They say it’s genetic and spiritual in context.

Jay: Genetic and spiritual. And as things like Gaia come out into the world, we’re raising the vibe of everything and changing the game. And I think that Gaia is a big part of this whole change in consciousness.

David: Let’s hear more of what he had to say about this meta analysis of all the different contact information.

“[This event] will have great impacts on the form and expression of plant and animal life on our planet and it will have great impact on the consciousness of [humanity]. This has already started and is being amplified because [Earth humans have] fallen behind the evolution of [their] planet in [their] spiritual evolution and [are] not prepared for this change.”

David: Now, Corey, this is from 1972. Did you hear anything that sounded like that?

Corey: Well, what I said earlier, the Spheres are here to buffer the energy so we can acclimate at a slower rate because the Earth is changing faster than we are. And that’s why . . . If they didn’t do that, there were going to be more catastrophe . . . Earth changes happening and catastrophes because of it, and there would be fear and all that kind of stuff that would make it harder for us to raise our vibration.

David: So they really have needed this sort of intercession of the Sphere technology because we’re not ready, just like it said here in ’72.

Corey: Right.

David: Pretty amazing, huh?

Jay: Pretty amazing.

David: 40 years before 2012.

Corey: And them talking about the Solar System moving . . . because I hear people talking about the Solar System as being hit by all these energies . . .

David: Or the photon belt.

Corey: Right. It’s shocking to hear that they’re saying the same thing the Secret Space Program was saying, is that our Solar System is moving into a part of the galaxy that has like a nebula of clouds, high-energy particle clouds, that are causing changes to our Sun and our Solar System.

David: And you said they were sending guys into those clouds in spaceships to see what happened to them, right?

Corey: Right. Well, they were sending them out there to investigate. And people . . . weird things were happening to them. They were having breakdowns, psychological breakdowns.

David: Well, could you go through that? Like, different . . . Not everybody responds to the cloud the same way, right?

Corey: Exactly. And they were artificially recreating this energy in closed environments and having unsuspecting people go in thinking that they’re doing unrelated work and seeing what it did to them. And they were doing it to our own people.

David: What are some of the things that happened?

Corey: Well, people that went in that were like sociopaths, they went nuts. They lost it.

Jay: That’s actually what I’ve heard is about to happen.

Corey: Yeah. And the people that were positively oriented started getting all blissful and just happy and whistling, that kind of thing. And people that had, you know, people that had psychological issues, those became enhanced.

David: Wow! So this is really lining up very beautifully with what he’s saying.

Jay: So the good get better and the bad get worse.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: And the crazy get crazier.

David: All right, so now we’re going to go on with this quote from this amazingly vetted-out material and just see how much more it lines up with everything we’ve been discussing.

“The quality of life in the Fourth Vela Density, which we are now moving into, is the quality of emergence, the recognition from childhood of the Inner Presence of our Creator. [Earth humans] in this cycle, will undergo many changes and refinements in the sensitivity of [their] own [bodies].”

Now, Jay, you said before that there was a really interesting Masonic ritual where they keep you in the dark for a long time . . .

Jay: Right.

David: . . . and then bring you out. Could you just kind of go over that again here?

Jay: Well, again, this goes back to the pineal gland. It’s kind of like tricking the pineal gland, you might say. This is a poor man’s way of getting the Elixir of Life.

So we know that serotonin is emitted from the pineal gland when light strikes it in the morning. And we know that melatonin comes out of the pineal gland when you’re in the dark.

We know that melatonin reverses the aging process, okay? And so what they would do, in my opinion, was they would put you in a dark room for three days, complete darkness, and then your brothers, the Freemasonic brothers, would come, and they would put you into a dark coffin, light-free coffin, and then they would take you to either the top of a mountain or the top of a building, somewhere where you could see the rising Sun. And you’re blindfolded.

And if anybody knows the Masonic rituals, this is starting to make a lot of sense.

David: Oh, yeah.

Jay: And so then you’re taken out of the coffin, and your brothers face you towards the Sun. They take off your blindfold, and the Sun hits your eyes. And for three minutes, you have to stare into the Sun.

Then you put your blind . . . By the way, it’s like a psychedelic experience when this happens.

David: Well, your brain has generated tons of melatonin.

Jay: Absolutely. We know that DMT is very close anatomically to serotonin, okay? And so what you’re doing is you’re getting almost like an endogenous DMT rush. It’s your own DMT, though. It’s homeopathic.

David: So it’s like the melatonin is methylated. It gets suddenly transformed.

Jay: Into a super-serotonin.

David: Right.

Jay: And then they put you back in the casket, and they take you back into the dark room. You have to stay for 40 days.

David: Total darkness.

Jay: Total darkness. No light. And then what happens is that the super-serotonin turns into super-melatonin, all right?

So first it was melatonin. Then the light activates. It turns into a higher vibratory super-serotonin. And then once you get in the dark, that’s transferred to super high vibratory super-melatonin, which begins to almost immediately reverse the aging process.

And supposedly you will lose 15, 20 years in this 40 days that you’re in there.

And it’s not a pleasant experience, from what I’ve heard.

David: Do they hit you with light again at the end of the 40 days?

Jay: No, they let you out.

David: Oh.

Jay: That’s supposed to be . . . They let you out at night because it’s very, very difficult to get back into the light after you’ve been in this experience. Your eyes are very sensitive. So usually, they let you out at night, and you usually become a night person for a little while.

David: Corey, have you heard of maybe some more advanced, perhaps chemical or energetic, means where some process, like what he’s describing, might be able to advance people’s psychic ability?

Corey: Well, yes. They chemically enhanced intuitive empaths with shots. Intuitive empaths that I run into are extremely advanced, but if they were to go for like six weeks or eight weeks without these shots, their abilities begin to diminish.

Jay: Right.

David: All right, well let’s go on with this because we got a little more of this to get through.

“The whole new vista and scope of the nature of life will open up before them, and they will live with the knowledge of their purpose and a deep, in-dwelling allegiance to the Spirit of the Creator.”

David: That sounds great. Now, we’re going to talk about this quote here, about what happens. And, again, we’re not going to read it off the paper. We’re going to do these nice slides.

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“Summarizing various sources dealing with these events . . . “ [the solar flash] “. . . major rearrangements in the orientation of the planets and the satellites within the Solar System will occur.”

David: Now, before we go on any further here, Corey, have you heard about planetary orbits changing, like maybe the Earth’s orbit extending in the number of days it takes, things like that, once this happens?

Corey: Yeah. And also about the orbits of the planets, that unlike some other solar systems, the planets are all askew. They’re not in harmony at all. That’s . . . Yeah, that’s very interesting.

David: Isn’t this crazy? 1972.

Corey: Yeah.

“Vulcan, the closest planet to the Sun, will be absorbed into the Sun; . . . “

David: And in The Law of One, they say it’s a first-density planet, so it’s not visible to us. It’s like an energy ball.

Jay: Right.

David: It’s not actually visible, but it gets reabsorbed.

“. . . Pluto will be [kicked out of our Solar System]; . . .”

David: It kind of already has been by NASA. Ha, ha.

Jay: It already has. Ha, ha.

“. . . our Moon is expected to leave [the] orbit of [the] Earth and become [its own] planet; . . .”

David: That’s interesting. I don’t know if I’d agree with that, but it probably will get kicked out, at least jettisoned from the Earth’s orbit.

Jay: It is slowly moving away from the Earth.

“. . . and there will be major changes in the orbital paths of the remaining planets.”

David: So I mean, there again is exactly what we’re anticipating based on insider data. Now, let’s go on and read the rest of this.

12 The Space Story 3

“A new balance will come about, which will result in many advantages to the expression of a more spiritualized life within the Solar System.”

David: That is Ascension, obviously.

“I believe . . . “ [This is the author speaking.] “. . . that this event is literally the cosmic manifestation of the fulfillment of the words which Jesus the Christ spoke in describing these times, the event of the coming of the bridegroom.”

David: And that is in the same book of Matthew right after they talk about the harvest metaphor. The bridegroom is just another symbol – the wedding, the alchemical wedding – . . .

Jay: It’s the alchemical wedding.

David: . . . the wedding of flesh to spirit.

Jay: That’s right.

David: Like the eclipse.

Jay: That’s exactly right. That’s what they’re saying there. They’re talking alchemy there.

David: And Jay, Kubrick is using eclipses and stuff all the time in “2001”, isn’t he?

Jay: All through “2001” there’s at least five eclipses in the movie.

David: So do you think Kubrick was aware of this biblical analogy to the wedding of flesh and spirit?

Jay: Oh, I do. Absolutely, I do. I believe that he was . . . I don’t know if he was a practicing alchemist, but he definitely understood alchemy . . . and the Cabal.

David: Now, why do you think Kubrick at the last minute dissed the guy that wrote the score and then picks “Thus Spake Zarathustra”?

Jay: What do you think? Ha, ha, ha.

David: Well, I already know the answer. I’m just kind of throwing him a bone here.

Jay: I know the answer, too, because Zarathustra was the Persian alchemist. And from the very beginning, he’s saying, “This is alchemy. Thus spoke the alchemist.”

And the opening trumpet from “Thus Spake Zarathustra” is over the eclipse at the beginning of “2001”. So there you go.

David: Zarathurstra is Zoroaster, . . .

Jay: That’s right.

David: . . . who is the author of the prophecy of Frashokereti, . . .

Jay: That’s right.

David: . . . where the Sun gives off this flash and transforms humanity.

Jay: Yep.

David: All right. So we’re just going to finish this out really quickly, because we’re almost done there. I just want you guys to hear this last little bit.

“The contact sources tell us that the solar emanations from the new Sun will have a direct impact in the refining and spiritualizing of [our] nervous systems as we pass into the new condition of life which celestial events are bringing to this world.”

Jay: Okay. So the “refining and spiritualizing of the nervous system” . . . The nervous system carries electrical currents through your body.

David: Yeah.

Jay: The Sun is essentially an electric Sun, as Corey has pointed out.

Corey: It is.

Jay: And so when the new Sun comes, it again goes through your eyes, hits your endocrine system, changes the nervous system, makes us more electric, advanced. So we can live longer.

David: Right.

Jay: We’re light bodies.

David: And the eclipse is like a metaphorical example of a conjunction that’s much greater, an alignment that leads to this solar emanation.

Jay: That’s right. That is exactly right.

David: All right. Well, Corey, I mean, what do you think about all this from 1972?

Corey: It’s unbelievable. I mean, I was two years old. Ha, ha. And this information, I didn’t hear until fairly recently from, of course, a much different nonterrestrial source.

David: Do you think there’s any possibility that somebody could have faked all this – the guy in Nebraska in 1958 – Baird Spalding [David means Baird Wallace.], 1972, reading all these different vetted-out channelers and how well it lines up with what you know?

Is there any way this could have been faked or somebody could have made this as a big hoax?

Corey: This is way before the time of the Internet, and your average library, I don’t know if they would have all this information. And if it did, you would have to hunt and peck for years. That just doesn’t seem practical.

David: Well, knowledge was kept secret, too, right, Jay?

Jay: Yeah, of course it was kept secret. This is clearly absolute proof, as proof as you can get, that what they’re saying about this extraterrestrial telepathic contact was really truly going on.

David: Absolutely.

Jay: Yeah. I mean, I was around back then. I wasn’t very old, but we were not very sophisticated in 1972. This is pretty sophisticated stuff.

David: Yeah, it’s stunning. And this is stuff that was classified in secret societies, and yet, these guys in Nebraska are pulling it in.

Jay: And probably driving the Cabal crazy.

David: Oh, yeah.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Oh, yeah. They’re trying to stop this.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Well, that’s all the time we have for this episode. I hope you’re as amazed as I am.

I wanted to present this information to you properly. I’ve been holding onto this stuff for a long time. I used to always close my conferences with this.

This to me is some of the crown jewels of my whole collection. And now with the three of us together, it’s really the right way to present it to you. I hope you’ve enjoyed it.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure:”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, with our special guest, Jay Weidner, and I thank you for watching.