Source: Gaia

Carrying a message of peace and hope for humanity, the Blue Avian extraterrestrial species exists beyond the confines of space and time. It is believed that these creatures have visited Earth for millennia, aiding in the spiritual development of humankind and helping to shift the consciousness of our species for the good of all. Corey Goode is one of the main contactees of the Blue Avians, also known as the Sphere Alliance. According to Corey, they have recently returned to our planetary system.

Their message urges humans to help themselves, stating that ascension can only be reached by humanity solving its own problems.



Blue Avian-like creatures have appeared throughout human mythology. For instance, Ra, the Egyptian god of the sun was pictured as a bird-headed being, as was his accomplice Thoth. Ra was believed to represent the noon day sun; he was considered the creator of the seasons, months, plants and animals. He was most often depicted as humanoid with the head of a blue eagle, wearing a crown with the solar disk, a serpent coiled around its circumference.


Ra was accompanied by Thoth upon his solar barge, carrying the sun across the sky each day and laying it to rest at night. Thoth was an integral god within Egyptian mythology, maintaining the universe, solving disputes, and developing systems of writing, magic and science. He is pictured as an Ibis-headed man.


Many other world cultures have myths of bird-headed beings, including the Sumerian god Abgal. This ancient god was said to have given humanity it first moral code, as well as the arts and crafts important in Sumerian culture.


Within Hopi beliefs, the Eagle Kachina is the messenger spirit between humans and the Creator.


In the Hindu religion, Garuda is a divine being with the head and wings of an eagle. He is said to be the sworn enemy of the Naga serpent race, and is the steed of the god Vishnu.



Perhaps the most striking aspect of the Blue Avians is their higher density and extradimensional abilities. While these beings do appear physically as blue, bird-like creatures, this is only one aspect of their dimensional nature, perhaps adopted to bring comfort to beings within our density. When they do choose to materialize in physical space, they appear as humanoid creatures with bird-like heads, beaks and blue feathers.


Blue Avians have ascended from our current level of reality into the sixth to ninth densities, traveling at will across the universe.

According to Goode, they do not use space craft as we understand them, but do utilize some devices such as the Spheres which have been dispatched to protect our planet.


The Blue Avians primarily communicate using telepathy, and often initiate contact with humans via dream. Goode claims that these creatures also use a form of sign language, and have created a secret greeting that they teach contactees to verify a truthful Blue Avian connection. Although some claim to have received channeled messages from the Blue Avians, Corey Goode refutes this possibility, stating that these entities have chosen not to communicate using this method, due to the interference from other extraterrestrial intelligences.


These beings are thought to possess telekinetic powers, due to their existence outside of physical reality. Goode also states that they use light physical touch as a form of communication to induce positive physical and emotional response.


Unlike many other alien species, the Blue Avians are not associated with any sort of abduction scenario, and only initiate contact with those open and willing to communicate.

They have only recently resumed their relationship with humans as a means of delivering their message of peaceful ascension, urging mankind to raise their vibration by being of service to others.

While the Blue Avians are currently acting as a buffer between our ascension and negative ETs and human interests, they choose to practice physical non-interference with our species. According to David Wilcock, the Blue Avian system of beliefs is similar to the Law of One. Their level of intelligence has transcended physical limitations and duality, and they act as a single intelligent entity. They have returned to right their past direct attempts to aid humanity, which at the previous times of contact were distorted by our species interpretation of their arrival.

Corey Goode states that the Blue Avians have once again returned to our planetary system to help with this ascension, urging us to free ourselves from the clutches of negative human and ET entities. Since Goode reintroduced these extra dimensional beings to modern popular UFO circles, backlash and disinformation campaigns have been severe.

Yet the statement of these beings is simple and direct: be of service to one another, focus on love and forgiveness, and change humanity for the better one person at a time, starting with yourself.

This is message is not new. These are the basic tenants of most religious and spiritual practices on planet Earth. The Sphere Alliance also warns against gurus and messiahs, stating that each human must take control of their own actions for the human species to truly ascend.

What are your thoughts on the Blue Avian creatures? Are they the return of the extraterrestrial beings once mistaken as gods? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.

Insiders Reveal Details of NASA & USAF Secret Space Programs

Source: Exopolitics

Emery Smith, a former U.S. Air Force Surgical Assistant has confirmed that NASA has a manned secret space program in addition to its widely known civilian program, which uses an astronaut corps drawn from USAF personnel. In addition, Smith corroborated other insider testimony about secret space stations approximately 10 times larger than the International Space Station, which are serviced by TR-3B antigravity spacecraft flying out of MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida and other classified locations.

In the August 21 episode of Cosmic Disclosure with host David Wilcock and another Secret Space Program insider, Corey Goode, Smith discussed his knowledge of the secret NASA program, which is entirely separate to a USAF run program that is supported by the Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office. Smith explained:

There are two sections to NASA. One is what the public sees and another underground Cabal type one, that does really mediocre stuff, as far as getting things into space for these other classified places. So their mission honestly is more on a supply type thing for them because they are kind of like the lower echelon compared to these other ones that Corey is talking about [USAF dominated secret space program]

Goode said that he was aware of USAF personnel trained to be astronauts with the secret NASA program, and encountered NASA personnel on one of the Moon’s secret bases called Lunar Operations Command.

In response to Wilcock’s question about whether he had heard of this secret NASA program, Goode [CG] said the following in an interaction with Smith [ES]:

CG: Well yes, it is actually the same part as I was talking about the secret astronaut corps … that is almost all Air Force

ES: Yes.

CG: … Trying to remember the name of the base … that they do a lot of their training … its close to one of the Great Lakes. A base where they train these people to fly these advanced technologies.

ES: Right…. Getting back to the Air Force and NASA too, definitely they are all working together. I totally support that 100% because they are all Air Force astronauts that run these missions … they are trained separately.

Smith and Goode’s claims are supported by documentary evidence released by the National Reconnaissance Office concerning a secret military Astronaut corps trained for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory program.

From 1963 to 1969, 17 military astronauts were secretly trained together with those chosen for regular NASA missions, and were earmarked to join the classified USAF space program. Here is how PBS described what happened:

These men, 17 in all, were set to make history in space as the first military astronauts, performing covert reconnaissance from orbit. Yet while NASA’s astronauts were gracing magazine covers and signing autographs, the MOL teams were sworn to secrecy; most of the program’s details remain classified even today. And MOL was canceled in 1969, before any of its astronauts went into space.

While President Lyndon Johnson ostensibly cancelled the Manned Orbiting Laboratory program, Smith and Goode are telling us that the military astronaut training program secretly continued, and produced hundreds or even thousands of military astronauts for both classified NASA and USAF missions over the following decades.

Smith then dropped a bombshell about his own involvement in the secret NASA space program:

DW: You said something provocative, which is you said that you were one of these astronauts.

ES: I was scheduled to go up in one of the shuttles, yes, luckily I didn’t because the one that got blown up over Texas was my return flight [Space Shuttle Columbia blew up over Northern Texas on February 1, 2003].

DW: You are actually saying the regular space shuttle?

ES: Yes, the regular space shuttle

DW: You were going to be a conventional astronaut?

ES: Yes, for that one.

Smith says that at the time he was doing contract work for an aerospace company specializing in space medicine wanting to optimize astronaut performance:

Well, while working at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute, we were contracted out as astronauts to go actually, to these places and run some tests for long-term space travels for human beings. They were trying to find out a way that we could make your body last a lot longer in space before its starts breaking down….

I was working in Florida at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute when I first developed my platelet rich plasma stem cell device. And they thought there would be some use for this regenerative properties in space. And they wanted to see if you could still concentrate these cells in space and if they would still be viable to give to the astronauts for long-term space exploration.

What lends plausibility to Smith’s controversial claim is that in the late 1990’s he was a pioneer in the emerging field of platelet rich plasma therapy (aka PRP) – platelets are a blood component that initiates clotting to stop bleeding.

Smith’s platelet rich plasma stem cell research contributed to the development of “platelet gel”, which is described by the Platelet Gel Network as:

… a platelet-based wound sealant used to enhance and hasten the repair of wounds and bone. Platelet gel contains high concentration of platelets and a native concentration of fibrinogen harvested by centrifugal separation of autologous whole blood. Platelet gel has many characteristic components that allow it to offer itself as a superior product for augmenting wound healing.

Smith was a presenter at the Florida Platelet Gel Symposium held March 16-18, 2002, on the topic: “Preparation for surgical application, preparation for chronic wound application, platelet recovery assessments, troubleshooting, documentation.”

Dr Paul Buza from the Southern Aeromedical Institute (aka South Coast Aeromedical Institute) also presented at the same conference on Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) applications which was directly related to Smith’s area of expertise.

In a Discovery Health documentary, Smith’s expertise with PRP therapy was credited with saving the life of a man suffering from a Cobra bite.

In 2004, Smith was awarded a patent for a centrifuge tube assembly to separate blood products used for platelet research. Based on his pioneering medical research into platelet rich healing devices and association with Dr. Buza, it is very feasible that in 2003 Smith was scheduled to do some classified space based medical research with the Southern [Space Coast] Aeromedical Institute as he claims.

Smith and Goode furthermore explained that the NASA secret space program uses antigravity flying triangles, and they were both aware of a highly classified wing of such triangles flying out of MacDill Air Force Base, home of Special Operations Command.

Goode referred to a number of photographs that I had previously released from my source, JP, who lived at the time in Tampa, Florida, next to MacDill:

ES: Well, there is a flight [Wing] of them at MacDill Air Force Base there in Tampa, Florida.

CG: Oh yes, as a matter of fact, Dr Salla of has recently written several articles. Before the last hurricane [Irma] hit Florida, people were photographing them evacuating these craft from MacDill. And there are two or three types of these triangles, I’m told that are stationed there. A full wing is stationed there at MacDill.

ES: Absolutely …

The photographs taken by JP showed different types of antigravity craft as exemplified in the following video comprising photos taken of an October 19 incident near MacDill AFB.

He also revealed that he was taken aboard one of the rectangle shaped craft where he witnessed a military patch on one of the USAF personnel. It belonged to Air Force Special Operations, which is one of the special forces divisions that make up Special Operations Command.

The patch was important because it revealed that the antigravity craft were not part of a testing program, but belonged to an operational wing of flying triangles and other antigravity craft operating out of MacDill. Smith and Goode had confirmed that such an antigravity wing does covertly operate out of MacDill, and it falls under the authority of Special Operations Command.

Smith and Goode went on to describe what they had witnessed concerning the classified space stations operated by the USAF:

CG: I’ve described one in the past and it was a space station that was created out of NASA ship hulls, or out of the rocket boosters that they had repurposed, that had ejected from other rocket launches into space. They repurposed them, put them end-to-end into, like, a big circle.

ES: Right

CG: That were like a spoke radiating from a middle, and it spun slowly to create one-third gravity.

ES:  Right, and that’s that, this is the one. I actually told you [pointing to David Wilcock] about this a while ago.

DW: Yes, you did.

ES: So to hear him saying it, it’s very enlightening to that.

CG: And the images I saw…

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Source: Sphere Being Alliance

Roger Richards: My name’s Roger Richards. I serve currently as a producer for a project that we are going to be introducing tonight.

About two years ago, I heard the Blue Avian message for the first time. It hit me directly in the heart. Anybody else have a similar experience?

I think all of us are being brought together right now for various reasons, and the world is coming to the place where we’re being brought up in a higher vibration.

And Corey here, you know, you’re at the front line of that, man. And he was tasked to bring the message of the Blue Avians to a larger audience.

And it was probably about four months ago when he came to me with this idea for a comic book. How do you get this information to the people that are shut down, the people that are locked up? How many of you have family members that you would love to introduce this to, but have no way of doing that?

When Corey said “comic book” at first, I kind of was like, “What?” And then I thought about it and it makes sense.

Comic books have been used going back to World War II as far as a way of disseminating information. The images, the combination of simple text with images, very much like an infographic, it lands and it plants those seeds in the subconscious.

Corey’s been avid about trying to find a way that is an all ages platform for this message to go out. So as he talked to me more and more, this developed.

And then lots of people started coming on board. We now have a very large team of creative individuals and what we’re going to play for you tonight is the launch of the trailer here for “Sphere Being Alliance Return of the Guardians”.

Welcome, everyone. Enjoy the evening. [Applause]

(Trailer: “Sphere Being Alliance Return of the Guardians”)

Jimmy Church: Holy crap! Right? [Applause] I’ll just say it now, I’m Jimmy Church. I’m here to introduce Corey. Fade-to-Black, Coast to Coast AM,

Are you guys all believers? [Applause]

I’m so humbled to introduce Corey. I’ve done this a lot over the last year, introducing Corey and David, and you guys know all that, so, yeah, here I am. No big deal.

But you know what? Everybody wave at me. [Jimmy takes a photo of the audience waving.] That’s for Corey, all right?

All right, I’m going to keep this . . . We’re all here to hang out with Corey, so I’m going to keep this very brief. I do want to say this. Every time that I introduce Corey, or I bring him on the show, or we’re doing interviews, I say the same thing, and I really mean this.

I get emails. I get comments. Everybody knows about Corey, myself and David relationship. You guys all get that. You’ve all heard the interviews, right? Okay. All right. All right.

Everybody says, “Why don’t they talk more? Why aren’t we getting information? Why don’t they talk more?” Right? And I’m like, “That’s all they do!”

Right? That’s all they do is the writing, the website presence, the YouTube, Fade-to-Black. They would be on Fade-to-Black or Coast to Coast every week. I have to book other guests. I do.

But I would do that. They are right there.

Corey, am I wrong in saying that? Can I shut you up? Say, “No!”

That’s what he wants to do. That’s what he’s here to do today. I’m so excited. Please listen to everything that he has to say. It’s not about to question things or to have judgment.

It’s to collect information and share that knowledge with your friends.

We are at the brink of things. Can you guys feel this? No longer are we the strange group, man. It’s the rest of the world that’s trippin’. [Applause] Am I right? [Applause]

I’m going to say this right now, and I mean this. I want to introduce my good friend to you, Mr. Corey Goode. Corey, get on up here. [Applause]

Corey Goode: Thank you! [Corey notices a bird feather on the stage and picks it up and holds it up for everyone to see.] Is this a sign? [Laughter]

Well, thank you for joining me. I appreciate everyone that is live streaming at home joining me as well.

First of all, I’d like to thank Roger and Rene for putting all this together for me. It’s outstanding. Thank you. [Applause]

Most of you have heard my story, and I’m going to go over it again. So a lot of this you’ve already heard, but you have some eye candy to go with it this time.

When I was about the age of six, I was pulled into a program that we refer to as the MILAB program.

They identified me through standardized testing originally.

1 MILAB Standardized Testing

Come to find out, my family has been a part of a multi-generational experiment as well, going back to World War II when my grandfather took part in Operation Whitecoat.

So this was something I was sort of born into that I found out about more recently.

In the past, children were selected through standardized testing and public schools.

Currently, not as many children are used. They used in different smaller programs, but for the most part they’re using clones.

The clones are assets that they see as a little bit more disposable than the children that they were exploiting.

2 Trauma Based Training

They used all types of very bizarre types of training, including sensory deprivation, putting you in deprivation chambers for hours and hours and making you do visual exercises.

They would also put us in very bizarre and upsetting virtual reality scenarios and see how we would react, and do personality profiles and decide how they were going to use us in the future.

They were doing all of that to desensitize us to violence and seeing other people violated, which is difficult to do with children that are intuitive or empaths, but they were giving it their best effort.

3 MKUltra Vs Ultra Program

A lot of people hear of the MKUltra Program and they like to lump everything under that.

The MKUltra Program was a mind control. That’s what the “MK” stood for. All the other Ultra programs and related programs had different training. They had different agendas.

We’ve pretty much been lumping everything under the MILAB umbrella since it’s gone public.

We’re all under mind control – every single one of us. We’re socially programmed by the norms around us.

We’re programmed by television, movies, media, and we’re getting to a point where we’re starting to break free from that on an individual basis.

We’re utilizing our co-creative consciousness to overcome a lot of this mind control. The technology isn’t working the way it used to because of the change in vibration and the raising of our consciousness.

They’ve already lost. [Applause]

4 Unexplained PTSD

Many in the MILAB programs, once they’re put back into their normal life, they are mind-wiped, blank-slated, but they exhibit symptoms of PTSD but there’s no real reason for them to have PTSD.

5 Greys And DUMBS

When I was first being picked up and taken to these MILAB-type programs, I found myself being slowly introduced to non-terrestrials.

You would go into like a virtual reality setting where they put the goggles on you, and you’re sitting in a chair, and there would be a bunch of military and medical people in the room.

And then, when you took the goggles off, there would be a Grey alien sitting at the table. They would just spring it on you. Yeah.

They spent years acclimating people to being in the presence of non-terrestrials, because no matter who you are, it’s going to throw you off.

We’re genetically programmed to respond viscerally to the non-terrestrials.


When I was almost 17, I was brought into the Secret Space Program (SSP), which I had been groomed for all throughout the MILAB program.

7 SSP Duties

They drafted me into Solar Warden. It was my Christmas break, 1986. I was . . . My birthday’s in 11 days, so it’s February 22. It was during December just before my 17th birthday that they brought me in.

They assigned me to a research vessel, and the captain did not want me on board. In the past, they had put what he called “children” on board, and they cried for mom, and it took about a year for them to acclimate, and he did not want to go through that. It was too disruptive.

So instead, they sent me to the Intruder, Intercept and Interrogation program, where they would use intuitive empaths to interrogate non-terrestrials that they had caught in our Solar System or on Earth.

I was in that program for about a year, just under a year. And then they reassigned me back to the Sommerfield.

I worked for scientists and engineers. When I was working on the science side with the scientists, they called me a Specialist. And I was a Technician when I was working with the engineers.

Who remembers talking about the dart craft coming in my back yard to pick me up?

8 DART Craft

Rene did a pretty close depiction right here. It was the first time that I had been taken back to the LOC since I had been separated from the SSP program.

9 Corey S Backyard

There’s the backyard.

Now in the beginning, my wife didn’t know what to think when I was telling here that a spacecraft was picking me up in the backyard. [Laughter]

She went in the backyard a couple times and saw little triangular spots, you know, landing gear divots. And one time she went out and she saw a pair of bare footprints walking out. They disappeared and about 20 feet over, another pair of footprints coming back to the door.

And that’s when she started to really start to believe that something bigger was going on.

10 LOC

The Lunar Operation Command. You notice it’s shaped like a swastika.

When I first went in, around the 1987 period when I saw it, it still looked like this. When I was separated, when I was coming to get debriefed, they had purposely built around it to break up the look of the swastika. So it no longer looks like a swastika.

This was set up by the Germans, obviously, and it was the first human base on the Moon that was allowed by the other groups.

The Moon is considered to be a neutral zone and the territory is . . . You’re not to encroach on the territory.

So they finally got permission from one of the non-terrestrial groups to build in their area.

There are at least 11 sub-surface areas to this base. I was not privy to anything below the hangar area, which is about 3 or 4 floors down.

All right, here we go.

11 Video Preview Of DART Craft Landing At LOC

This is what I was so excited to debut. This is the 3D rendering of the base and the dart craft coming in.

12 SBA Mtg 1

I’ve told this story how I was walked to the front of an auditorium at the LOC. And they just walked me to the front and left me and didn’t tell me what was going to happen.

And when I was sitting there, the room was filled with all types of people, including military and people that looked like they were political.

And the people in the front started heckling me. And in the middle of heckling me, everyone got real quiet, and you can see why.

14 SBA Mtg 3

These two beings appeared behind me. It’s the first time we’d ever seen this Golden Triangle-Headed being.

It was just kind of . . . I don’t know . . . It’s like it was underwater and it didn’t have any bones. It was just very . . . It was weird.

And on its . . . It used its toes as tripods and it was going up and down on those as well. So that got the attention of all the people in the room.

And then they started to ask me questions and Tier Eir was answering through me.

21 Cabal

The Cabal, for the lack of a better word.

22 Cabal Not A Singular Group

The Cabal is not a single group that cannot be defeated. It is a group of loosely knit militaristic syndicates. They’re just criminal – criminal syndicate groups. That’s all they are. They want us to build them up as an all powerful force that cannot be defeated. That’s part of the mind control.

And as you all are seeing, it looks like their time is done. It’s becoming so obvious. [Applause]

Some of the groups are real pragmatic, nuts and bolts, scientific, and they stick to that way of thinking. But others are very esoteric, very much into these different dark belief systems where they use sacrifice and all kinds of horrible things to boost their magic.

23 Destruction Of DUMBS

I think we’ve talked about it on Jimmy Church’s show. Very recently, after the change in administrations, the military-industrial complex, after some changes, started to send Marines into some of these FEMA bases.

After the change of administration, a lot of them were suppose to give up their power. Instead, they locked the doors.

So these Marines were sent to break through all the concrete, cut through the steel, and give them one opportunity to surrender. And if they didn’t surrender, they were to kill everyone in the entire base.

And these bases, as you know, can hold a lot of people. These Marines were special forces, and they were not briefed on anything non-terrestrial. They just thought they were going in to clean out a bunch of criminals.

After they had breached the base, they found theirselves face-to-face with Reptilians doing battle with them.

A lot of these Marines are, you know, Southern boys, and the next thing you know, they’re fighting something that looks like the Devil according to their belief systems.

So these guys were so incredibly traumatized, they couldn’t function after this battle.

This was very recently – in the last two months. And a lot of other bases are being cleared out.

This base, I don’t know where it was located. It was an unacknowledged base. So it wasn’t one of the ones you’d hear about like the Denver Airport or any number of the other ones.

24 Experience Of Duality

The Draco are not all powerful. They have been defeated in the past.

Over the millennia, the Reptilians have been kicked off of our planet. They come back during times of weakness, like after a cataclysm. Most recently, about 12,800 years ago, we had a huge cataclysm, which destroyed a civilization that you’re familiar with – Atlantis.

And this group was keeping the Reptilians in check at that time. And after they got flattened, the Reptilians came back in force and we have the mess we have now.

And apparently, they are playing a negative role – their group consciousness is.

When Tier Eir showed me our group consciousness, it was shown to me as a person that has extreme PTSD and is somewhat schizophrenic, you know, has been extremely traumatized.

And it turns out that our super consciousness has been in an abusive relationship with the super consciousness of this Reptilian group. And it’s like a cosmic domestic violence-type of situation, and we’re both supposed to be learning something through this process.

There are a number of groups that make up the Draco Federation – one of which is these insectoid beings. They have different types. You’ve all heard of ant-like beings, mantis-type beings, and they genetically modify their own genome and create these other types of insectoids that some people see that have like four arms.

They can design them to do whatever they want.

In the beginning, the ancient breakaway civilizations, they were kind of . . . you know, it was just a concept.

25 Breakaway Civilizations

I was reading about it on the smart-glass pads and, you know, I got the general information that they had been making contact with us for a long time. They had been helping us after cataclysms, and we considered them . . . a lot of people in the past considered them gods.

In this case, the Mayan Group, they are completely service-to-others. That is their mandate.

26 Completely Service To Others

Back when they were on Earth, they were not originally from here. They had been brought here from the Pleiades during a rough time in their star system.

Their population grew to over 40 million people.

They disappeared because their group came back to get them and remove them from the planet, but they did leave a contingent behind that had underground bases and also had bases in the Kuiper Belt.

So they’ve been here with us the whole time.

27 ET Contact An Acclimation Process

I mentioned a little bit about the acclimation process of ET contact.

28 ET Contact Cellular Memory

We have a genetic or cellular memory going way back from these beings. We’re socially programmed with a ‘fight or flight’ response – and genetically.

ETs are aware of this. Some of the negative ones will exploit us to get loosh from us and the negative ones will also appear to us as ‘beings of light’ to manipulate us.

That’s why . . . And I don’t want to discourage people from continuing to do their spiritual path and to reach out for guides, but we do have to be careful and use a lot of wisdom when you’re communicating, because these beings can present theirselves as angels of light and give you great information, but just poison the well as they do.

And it’s happened quite a bit and it confuses the people that are in real contact and it confuses the information, which is the goal. Just be careful when you’re reaching out.

When you’re fishing in the swamp, you can catch an alligator, and those aren’t the ones you want to catch.

29 Life On Mars

Well, we’ve all heard Mars is a dead planet, right? Well, it’s not an uninhabited planet.

30 Construction On Mars

This is a declassified film of Camp Century, a top secret Arctic base. It was from Project Iceworm. (YouTube: )

I’m showing this because not only have they been building bases in Antarctica like this since the ’50s, but this is very similar to how they bases on the Moon and Mars.

They would tunnel out the ground, clear out the ground area like this, and then use mostly local materials, fabricated materials, to build inside. And then they would use nuclear power in the beginning. Then they graduated to where they were using thorium generators, and then now they have zero-point energy. So they don’t have to have the more dangerous technologies.

I’ll let this play for a few minutes and chime in. This is . . . Some of you may have seen this on the Internet. It was released, I don’t know, I think a year or two ago.

Everything was prefabricated. Everything had been put together on Earth, designed to go together like a puzzle – a puzzle by numbers.

And I helped, actually, to build out an outpost on Mars. We used a lot of the local materials on the surface after they had built below ground. And it was very much like this [Camp Century].

It was much lower tech than you would expect.

31 ICC

The Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate. We talked about how they use slave labor.

They have been in continual trade with over 900 ET species. And believe it or not, non-terrestrials from other star systems are traveling here because they love the technology we build.

There are ETs coming to trade in their used cars for cars we build. But that’s not bizarre. I mean, that’s far ahead our Breakaway Civilization is.

Now, they don’t have money in the cosmos. It’s a barter system. They barter and trade technology and biological material. And I’ll kind of leave it at that. I don’t want to get too dark, but it involves the human slave trade with close to a million people a year.

The Inner Earth. It seems to be probably the most popular topic that I’ve talked about.

33 Inner Earth 2

A lot of you remember me talking about witnessing the city in the deep cavern. This is an animation that Rene created to help depict it. It’s very good.

The only difference was the cavern was the size of a state. There’s no way to really accurately depict on scale how large it was. It’s unbelievable. There’s mist up along the ceiling of the cave, cavern.

34 Inner Earth City 3

It was like New York, or Manhattan, under the ground.

Inside these pillars, natural pillars, they had built into what looked like a bunch of condos. I guess that’s where all the . . . They don’t have money. I was going to say that’s where all the rich people live. They don’t have money.

35 Inner Earth City 4

They’re a fourth-density being, and apparently they trace their lineage back to the Earth, and some of them, including the Anshar here, back 18 million years.

36 Anshar Library Books

Here’s a new image of the Anshar library.

37 Antarctica Beginning Of Disclosure

Antarctica: The Beginning of Partial Disclosure, which we want to avoid.

38 Anshar Egg Craft

Recently, I was brought down to the Anshar city. I was teleported, and found myself in an area I hadn’t been. It was a hangar bay that was full of these very large egg-shaped craft.

And waiting there for me was Gonzales, Ka’Aree and two of the very quiet Asian-looking groups that have the crystal under their skin on their forehead. They all have a crystal implanted under their forehead.

They are very tall, they are very quiet and they have a very strong presence. They don’t have to talk.

And I will continue with the experience after we got in the egg-shaped craft. They were obviously ready to go on some sort of an expedition. They were wearing suits that looked something like chain mail.

And when you put them on, they’re activated. The chain mail just kind of . . . the threads get tighter and tighter, and it looks like it’s all one piece – the boots. The helmet looked kind of like kind of like . . . what do people . . . the fencers, a fencing helmet. It’s not called a helmet, a mask.

39 Antarctica The Mission

In the 1938-39 Antarctica expedition, the Nazis discovered Atlantis and they kept it quiet.

They found what we are now calling Pre-Adamite ruins, and this is a group that I showed a picture of that looks like the Pharoahs. They have the very strange torsos. They have weird shaped, narrow ribs, real wide hips. They definitely don’t look like they’re from around here.

The originals were 12~14-foot tall, extremely thin – very skinny. And when they found these bodies, they said it was obvious that they had not developed naturally on this planet. They had developed on a planet with much different barometric pressure and gravity.

Since these ruins have been discovered, we’ve all seen on the news all the different bigwigs and the Cabal that have been going down and visiting Antarctica for many different reasons.

It’s basically turned into a Cabal Disneyland. What has been discovered is that they have discovered three massive ships that were used to crash land on our planet.

They jokingly call them the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria, because [they] brought this group here to Earth.

We flew right through the wall, and then popped out in an ice cavern similar to where I had been taken before.

40 Egg Shaped Craft In Ice Cavern In Antarctica

41 Cabal Excavation

Where we landed, it was probably a football field away, they were hard at work excavating using pressurized steam to dig through the snow. and expose some of the structures.

42 Walking Toward Bodies

There were all types of bodies that were laying out from these Pre-Adamites and their genetic experiments. There was even one, it was a male about . . . close to five-foot tall or shorter, and he was in a fetal position, and he had a tail.

So this group, they were very big into genetic experiments and from what we found there it had gotten completely out of control.

The bodies were not . . . You know how you picture the caveman just frozen and you chip him out and reanimate him? They were in terribly shape. Their bodies were all contorted, arms wrapped around their bodies a few times like they had just been hit by something like a deluge of water which frozen instantly.

43 Gonzales Getting Samples

After we had gone inside the library, and the two . . . I don’t have a name for them right now, the two Asian-looking groups, they went in and immediately started removing . . . In the snowbank there was obviously a corner of a building sticking out.

And the suits we were wearing allowed us to walk right through the wall. And then we were inside this library that was full of all types of scrolls, bound books.

And they walked right to one tray, and they opened up a folding box and started loading it with these metal scrolls. And I saw one of the metal scrolls that had popped open and they had . . . looked like laser etching on them. They were strange looking characters.

I don’t know why they removed them, but they obviously did not want these Pre-Adamites getting access to this information.

The Pre-Adamites, when this deluge happened, everyone on the main continent – they were wiped out.

All of the enclaves across the planet survived. And all they had with them was the technology that they had brought with them and the knowledge to engineer. So they were in survival mode.

44 Mandela Effect

We’ve all heard about the Mandela Effect, right? Is everyone familiar with that?

45 Tier Eir Co Creation

The Mandela Effect is just one component of this Ascension that we’re looking forward to. Our co-creative consciousness is interacting with time-space and matter.

We are co-creating what we are experiencing. We have the power to co-create a positive-temporal reality or a negative one. It just depends on where we feel like we need to be as a collective.

Now, time is elastic, just like space is, and all of these paradoxes we’ve created by traveling back in time, we were trying to fix by going back . . . and we’re just making it worse.

Then all of a sudden, we started realizing, and then it was confirmed from a non-terrestrial race, that these timelines were snapping back together. So we didn’t need to try to fix it.

There is some sort of intelligent . . . There’s something intelligent about the way the universe was working. It baffles a lot of the scientists, but it doesn’t baffle this group.

46 Ascension

As I stated, Ascension is going to be a co-created experience. We are creating the Ascension and we are creating it in tandem with what is happening in our galaxy.

There are energetic changes going on that are undeniable and we have to either acclimate to them or they are going to tear us apart.

And that’s where . . . You know, we see the good are getting better. The bad are getting worse. And I’ve added to it: the crazy are getting crazier. They can’t handle the energies. No one can.

Now, just about everyone is expecting some sort of solar event. The information goes everything from complete 360° degree, full circumference, mass coronal ejection that they believe is going to happen.

And when that happens, the Sun will appear to go dark for a number of days before it pops back into equilibrium and comes back alive.

And in that moment, they expect there to be a moment of flashes, and a lot of this is feedback through the Cosmic Web from other star systems.

As the energies are hitting them, these cosmic energies that are causing all this change, it feeds back from star to star, and depending on where you are in the Cosmic Web, you’re going to have this Ascension event or event that helps us go through a massive genetic and consciousness change.

What Tier Eir has explained to me is that this density change that we’re going to experience, it is almost completely a consciousness component. It is a change in consciousness.

And once we have a different, broader consciousness, we realize our co-creative abilities and then matter changes – our bodies, the world around us changes, because we change it. [Applause]

[Linda Moulten Howe asked Corey a question, but it was inaudible. Here’s Corey’s answer.]

In different areas of the galaxy, in between . . . as we rotate around the galaxy, the Great Year, or cycle, [about 26,000 years], we’re . . . in certain open areas there are giant gas clouds, for the lack of a better word, that we’ve been aware of for a long time.

They were sending craft out gathering telemetry from these very hot gaseous clouds. And when they were taking a look at this energy that our Solar System is traveling through as we travel around the galaxy, they were noticing that the people were starting to behave bizarrely.

So they reproduced that energy in a controlled environment and they found out that negative people started to have sort of a breakdown. They couldn’t . . . They were having mental and emotional breakdowns. And people that were positively oriented were starting to bliss out.

They realized pretty quickly that as our Solar System passed through this cloud, that not only was this energy going to around the magnetosphere of our star and then feed in through both poles, then traveling to each of the planets where they have magnetic connections to, but that this energy feeds back throughout the entire Cosmic Web.

In our local stellar neighborhood, about 52 stars, we’re in the very center. And there is a supergate that is just outside of our Solar System that gives you access to not only everywhere in our galaxy but other galaxies.

So it’s used for travel and commerce by many different beings. So we’re in a very coveted area of this local stellar neighborhood.

(Inaudible question)

It’s a feedback from within the Cosmic Web, which I’d have to give more information. I’ve talked about it on Cosmic Disclosure about how there’s an electric connection between each star as they’re traveling . . . as it’s spinning around the galaxy.

It’s like electricity. They take the path of least resistance. That’s how stargates work. You’re traveling through the Cosmic Web.

Well, I guess that’s it. We would like people to subscribe to our YouTube channels and we really want people to play close attention to this project. We’re really excited about it.

As Roger said, I’ve been asked, “Why would you do Cosmic Disclosure, bring on all these guests, to legitimize the information, and then go the route of sci-fi?”

Tier Eir had basically told me that what we’re going here is a great job, but we’re preaching to the choir. We need to reach out to other genres and plant these seeds in their consciousness.

And if we do so, we can bump that 100th monkey effect up to a millionth monkey effect.

And we can use this medium to help to guide the co-creative consciousness in a more positive direction.

And from the beginning, Tier Eir told me it did not matter whether people believed me or not. He said it was of no consequence. It was of a consequence to me, because I was the one out there talking, but I finally realized that he was right.

It’s not about whether people believe me or not, it is about how they process and assimilate the information.

If the Blue Avian message can help us raise our consciousness, then we’re going to be ready for this energetic explosion from the Sun. [Applause]

Thank you. We’ve got a little bit of time. Does anyone want to do a Q&A? [Audience approves.]


Do we have another mic? Awesome. Raise your hand and Rene will . . . he’ll pick whoever he wants.

Question: I’m wondering about since the frequency has gone to 36Hz, the Schumann Resonance, it’s getting very fast. We’re going very fast through this process, and I’m wondering, what do you think? Do you think that the Ascension event will come before the Full Disclosure?

It’s possible because it just jumped from 2015 was 16Hz. Before that it was . . . all along they’d been measuring it at 7.8Hz.

Corey: Right. Right, yeah, and there has been . . . A lot of scientists will disagree that there’s been a change in the Schumann Resonance. They play with numbers a lot, just like they do with earthquakes.

But, yes, the frequency of our entire Solar System is changing and we have to have the ability to change along with it.

That’s why we’re seeing a lot of people having a lot of triggering and mental issues and emotional issues right now.

We’re being forced to deal with our karma and all the things . . . and you may notice . . . all the things that you’ve buried a long time ago. Have they started popping up out of the blue and you’re being forced to deal with them?

Well, there’s a reason for that. All of the emotion tied to those experiences, those emotions have density. They have . . . They’re tangible and they’re a part of you.

These energies, as they’re passing through us, when they hit those things we haven’t dealt with, those energetic anchors, they hold us back. We can’t progress until we start to deal with ourselves. We have to follow the message. You don’t have to change your religion, your belief system. All you have to do is to start trying to forgive others.

If you don’t forgive others, they have this same power over you now as they did when they traumatized you.

You have to forgive yourself for what you’ve done, and you have to focus daily on being more service-to-others, become more loving. And it really helps if you get on a high vibration diet, because that is going to help you deal with these energies in a more positive way. [Applause]

Question: Hi. I’m a little curious about the jobs that you had . . . were given when you entered this program. Could you elucidate? And also, why you were allowed to talk about this? No one’s stopping you.

Corey: Well, as it turns out, there is sort of a disclosure war going on. There are factions of the Air Force that have been working with like the NSA, DIA, and other military intelligence groups, and they have a space program that they have been promised is going to be made public very soon. And they are excited about it.

This is a program that I used to call the ‘lower secret space program’. It’s lower technology, and they are told that they are the top of the pyramid. There’s nothing above them and they believe it.

And if you tell them otherwise, they are ready to fight you.

Now, the Navy also has a much more advanced program. There’s a lot of competition between the Navy and the Air Force in space.

Right now, the Navy, a faction of the Navy, has wanted all of this to come out.

Are all of you familiar with William Tompkins? What he has been doing is sanctioned by a certain group within the Navy, Naval Intelligence. And that group is a part of the Alliance and a part of the group that had been encouraging me to bring information forth that was much more detailed and talked a lot more about what was really going on out there than even the people in these Air Force programs knew about.

Question: Corey, I came up with this question a year ago, but after today, I think I know your answer. Basically, are you optimistic about the eternal struggle between good and evil for the positive outcome? You can rephrase the question or just say ‘yes’ or ‘no’.

Corey: No, you’re right. There . . . We’re seeing it all around us. The energetic changes are causing the evil people to become more evil, which . . . they expose theirselves. They can’t control their behavior.

They expose theirselves and as we’re becoming . . . the good people are becoming more awake, we’re getting to the point that we’re not going to take it any more.

It’s time that we get out and start demanding answers, demanding the full truth. When they come out with these partial disclosures narratives, we need to be in their face and saying what about this, what about this, and make it impossible for them to draw out over 50 or 100 years this partial disclosure narrative that they’re planning on doing, which is they’re going to tell us, “We found Atlantis. It’s amazing!” And that’s going to blow everybody’s minds as it is.

A good portion of the planet thinks that the planet is only 7,000 years old, so it’s going to blow their paradigms immediately.

And then after that, they’re going to reveal this Air Force DIA, NSA program that they have that is barely more advanced than the ISS. They have two bases up that they made out of repurposed rocket stages as they were launching rockets into space, the lower programs.

They’re going to reveal this and they’re going to say, “Oh, by the way, not only do we have the Secret Space Program, but we’ve discovered these weird ruins on other planets.” That blows our minds again.

What they’ve been doing in Antarctica is since for the last almost 14 or 15 years they’ve had very prestigious professors, archaeologists coming down and helping them document it.

They’ve been videoing it, documenting it, documenting the whole process, except they’re going to give us a sanitized version to where it’s only human.

They’re removing . . . the one site where they’ve been filming, they’ve removed all the Pre-Adamites and the hybrids and just left the ancient humans that were working with this Pre-Adamite group.

And then later on they’re going to “discover” these ships and these Pre-Adamite beings.

And what these Cabal groups had planned on doing is then saying, “Oh, yeah, we knew about this the whole time. We’re related to them. We’re their bloodline. Therefore, you should worship us and make us your leaders of the planet.”

And we’re not going to let that happen.

I don’t see how it’s possible, but all of these groups have agreed that that is the narrative, that is what they’re going to push.

Question: Corey, I’d like to know what your knowledge is on the medical field of titanium and implants that are being put in people for mind control.

Corey: I haven’t heard that specifically, but they use all sorts of methods like that. They use vaccinations for viruses like the flu vaccine. I use to work at a company, a pharmaceutical company, that produces a large number of those vaccines.

I did computer support, and I was talking to the bioengineers, and I asked them, “Do you take these shots?” And they’re like, “Oh, no. I would never give my family these shots.”

And I asked, “Why?”

And they stated there were all kinds of things, genome, that “we put in those things that people don’t know about including insect genetics”.

Questioner: And mercury?

Corey: Yeah. But they’ve also been putting in nanites that are inactive. They are activated by a field that is turned on.

Question: Hi, Corey. My question is about the Ascension and it relates to The Law of One, which you’ve recently been reading. How does the density relate to the rest of us who haven’t read that and what we call “dimensional rising”? Is there a correlation between the two, or are they just two separate things?

Corey: Yeah, those terms get inter-exchanged quite a bit. [The way] Tier Eir and Ka’Aree have both explained densities to me is that each density is just a different consciousness frequency.

A lot of people think that, you know, if there’s a fourth or fifty-density being in the room, we’d be like [Corey moves his arm in front of him], you know, “Where are they?”

No. If you think about it, you have bacteria, plants, animals. You know, you’ve got first, second density beings that we can touch, we can interact with. Some of them can make us sick.

So it works the same way going up the rung, up the ladder. These beings are physical, but they’ve obtained such a higher level of consciousness above ours that they, at that point, they have almost full use of their co-creative consciousness in their abilities to manipulate matter and time and space. Therefore, they are able to teleport and do things that seem magical to us.

Question: Does that seem more to be the physical abilities, because when we raise in dimension, what I’ve heard about that is becoming more service-to-others and not having any of the lower dimensional polarities. Does that also come into play with this?

Corey: At a certain point. There are positive-negative duality within the densities going up, I believe, to the fifth. I’m still learning a lot of . . . You know, a lot of this stuff, we’re trying to figure things out. We’re all picking up pieces off the ground, little pieces, and then grinding them together into this lens that we use to process all information.

So that’s where distortions come in. All of us, all of us, have distortions.

And when we do get Full Disclosure, we’re all going to be in for a shock. We’re all going to have to shift our paradigm and our belief systems to the new reality.

Question: Since 2007, I’ve been keeping a dream journal. And in many of my dreams, I’ve experienced getting training, learning lessons, being checked out in craft, just learning how to use energy healing, how the universe works, and there’s always beings there – one or more beings, usually humanoid.

Usually, I don’t see them, but I know that they’re there. Never any Greys. Never any reptoids, usually humanoid beings that are providing these lessons, providing this training. Those examples are just a few.

So I wondered if there is anybody else, or you, have come across that, and are they doing that?

Corey: Yes, there is a large confederation of benevolent beings that are trying to influence us. I’ve been getting so many communications from people, I mean, doctors, lawyers, attorneys, that do not follow this field.

They have an experience where they see a Blue Sphere. They Google and they find my information and they contact me to start asking me questions.

What is happening is there are so many of you out there – I’d say just about every one of you sitting down here – you’re not from here. Most of you are not from here.

There are a lot of other people like us that have bought into the lie, and they forgot who they were.

These experiences are trying to remind them of why they’re here.

A lot of people think that Gonzales and I are the only ones in contact with the Blue Avians. There are thousands of people out there in contact with the Blue Avians. And they’ve all been given different missions.

Question: Hi, Corey, I have two quick questions. The first one is besides doing our work on our karma, and on the energy and the high vibration diet, is there anything that we can physically do to prepare for the Ascension and a shift in the energy, the cosmic energies?

And then the second question is, what can we do to help? Is there a way to donate money? Do you have a vehicle to which we can donate money to support what you’re doing and to support this whole process and what can we do. Let’s say this is the first time I’ve heard you speak or I know anything and I walked in. What can I do to help?

Corey: Yeah, I mean, I do take donations. I’m hopefully starting to get to a place where I will not need donations, but we are crowdfunding this campaign.

And our website did go live and if people want to donate, they can there.

And I’m sorry, what . . .

The preparation is almost entirely a spiritual shift that we need to undergo. Our bodies and spirit – mind and spirit – are so interconnected that on a physical level we do need to start being careful what we are putting in our bodies, what information we’re putting in our minds – there’s so much negative information or tainted information out there. It’s really hard right now.

Using discernment is very difficult. There is too much to discern.

So this is going to be more of a spiritual type of answer than a physical one.

Question: Hello. Our question is about . . . We have two questions. Can you talk more about the Alliance, like who are these beings? Are they humans? Are they hybrids? And are we all part of the Alliance because we’re here?

And is there a linear timeline of when we’re going to hit these clouds?

Corey: Okay, the second question first. We have been hitting the outskirts of these clouds since at least the 1930s if not the 1920s. So it’s been going on for a long time, but we’re heading to the thickest part of it.

I’m sorry, what was the other . . . ?

Questioner: The Alliance.

Corey: The Alliance! Yes. Anyone who is working to raise the vibration and to work for Full Disclosure – you’re the Alliance. [Applause] Yeah.

The biggest thing that they’ve been trying to impart on to me is that every single one of us. We have to stop looking for something to come from the sky and change everything.

Those of us that are going through this change that are awakened, we are the ones that we’ve been waiting for. We are the ones that are going to fix this and change this. No one is going to come in and do it for us.

We’ve helped contribute to the problem. We’re going to have to contribute to the solution. [Applause]

Question: Hi, Corey. What . . . I have two things. One thing is the world’s coming unglued right now. There’s a lot of media bashing of Putin and Trump and I know you guys have mentioned a couple of things. I don’t know if you want to share your viewpoint if there’s a lot of media lies or if it is a true exposure that’s going on.

And also when you’re talking about individuals being connected with, have you heard of any Blue Spheres being put around people, and if so, what would those actions be? What would be happening?

Corey: Typically, in my experience, if they’ve put a Blue Sphere around someone, they’re trying to shield them from something – or protect them from something.

Question: Have you been aware of that happening?

Corey: Yes.

Question: Okay, great.

Corey: It’s happened to me and the crew I was with on the Mars expedition.

Question: Okay, cool. And then anything you can comment, because a lot of people are coming unglued out there and it seems like . . . is the media like lying? Or is it really true exposure of these people?

Corey: There is so much propaganda from every side, every side, even the Alliance. There’s a lot of propaganda with them, and the current president – I don’t like to say Trump, because so many people get triggered, you know – the current president, even though he’s really perplexing me on what’s he’s doing on the environmental stuff and all that, he was and is backed by this Alliance that is trying to bring about disclosure and get rid of this syndicate that’s been running the West. [Applause]

Question: Hi, Corey. Have the Blue Avians or anyone told you exactly how many dimensions our universe has? And would it be eleven? I could be wrong, but our current quantum physics says it’s eleven dimensions and could that, if it in fact is eleven, is that why so many people see 11:11 around or some multiple of eleven?

Corey: That’s a good question, because I see it all the time too. It’s bizarre. And usually that is to me just a synchronicity. That means you’re on the right path.

Now, Tier Eir had told me that there is an infinite number of densities. I say “infinite” because everything is designed to return you to Source. And if we’re all One, we’re like fragments that are all trying to return back to Source and we have to go through these densities.

Now, dimensions, parallel dimensions, there are infinite parallel dimensions.

Question: Recently, Steven Greer went on record saying you’re a really nice guy, but . . .

Corey: . . . but . . . I’m brainwashed.

Question: . . . that the human trafficking that you talk about out there is a falsehood.

Corey: I wish it was.

Question: I wanted to see if you had a response to his claims.

Corey: Well, he’s had his briefings. I think a lot of his briefings have come from the Air Force faction. They believe what they’re telling him, and I don’t see why he would have a reason to doubt them.

The positive and negative aliens existing, that’s just a belief system. We all have them. Science is a belief system.

So I can’t fault him for having his own beliefs, because we all have our own beliefs and not everyone’s going to agree with me.

And, you know, there is some stuff that I’m sure I’ve gotten wrong that when we do get a disclosure event, you know, I will see that there is some things that . . . you know, I’m human, that the things that I observed on the glass pad, that was decades ago.

I really don’t have anything against him or any negative feelings towards him, because I know that he’s on his journey and doing the best he can just like each of us are. [Applause]

Question: Hi, Corey. I want to say, thank you, thank you, thank you for everything you’ve done, and for risking your life. [Applause and standing ovation]

Corey: You’re all going to be on my next blog.

Well, I think we’re getting close to the end here.

Question: (Inaudible)

Corey: By 2026. The question Linda [Moulton Howe] was why was Elon Musk to determined to get to Mars by 2026?

There is a time window, that they have . . . it’s between 2018 and 2024 that they’ve . . . These different syndicates groups have used probably future technologies, plain old classical physics on the mechanics of our Solar System when they were going to reach the most energetic part of this cloud.

And that’s when they’re expecting this [solar] flash and these events to occur . . . is in that time window.

A lot of the elites pumping money into finding a way to get off the planet and to put colonies on other planets for “continuity of species” in case something happens to the Earth.

And a lot of them believe that . . . They have different beliefs about what’s going to occur when this solar flash happens.

Some of them believe it’s just going to knock out electronics for a little while. It’s going to be like the Year 2000, the Y2K thing. It’s not going to be that big of a deal.

Others believe we’re going to get hit by giant mass coronal ejection and burn everything up.

The groups that believe that are seeding information to people that have the resources to go off planet to start to do a continuity of species program, which we’ve already had since the ’50s and ’60s.

We’ve already been creating vaults out in a place you ask me about that I said I couldn’t say a whole lot about at Contact in the Desert, . . . I was trying to be quiet here.

There are continuity of species vaults that they plan on using to repopulate the planet or also after they terraform Mars.

So Elon Musk, his agenda, I believe, is a good one. He’s wanting break free from the control system that wants to keep us out of space.

The same with Virgin Space. They’re trying to get out and not only set up a situation to where there would be continuity of species if an event happened on Earth, but they’re also wanting to start to take advantage of the vast minerals that are out there.

There are asteroids out there that are a good part precious metals and what we call ‘rare earth’ minerals that they can mine and use.

Legislation has already been passed for it to protect them legally if they . . . It’s sort of like if there were any human rights violations that happened or anything they won’t be held accountable on Earth for the things that will happen and that’s a law. That’s already been passed. That’s out there.

I can get information on name of the law, but Dr. Salla has reported on it extensively.

Okay, we’ll do one or two more.

Question: Okay. Thank you, again. I’d like you to elaborate a little bit if you could on the 20-and-back program, and the timelines that you saw there and compare them to what you’re seeing on your second twenty.

Corey: When you’re in a 20-and-back program, you’re completely isolated from everything that’s occurring on Earth. You’re isolated from television, radio. There wasn’t the Internet when we traveled back then, but they do not allow you access to any information that you could use to exploit once you’ve been returned to the regular timeline.

So I would not have seen anything, because I was completely removed from the Earth for that time period.

Question: (inaudible)

Corey: Back in the day, they used to use mainly a chemical-type of blank-slating. It was a chemical . . . They used chemicals and then hypnosis and program you with screen memories, which are the hardest things to shake loose.

3~5% of the people that they blank-slate, the memories come back. And these are usually the intuitive empaths or the highly sensitives.

What occurs is that you have this physical hard drive here [Corey points to his brain]. Well, what you are experiencing is not only stored right here, otherwise you wouldn’t have memories of past lives.

What occurs is that you have all this information up in the cloud, virtually. People that are intuitive empaths or highly sensitives, they have more of a connection to their higher self and it’s almost like if you have a hard drive die on you in a data center, or something happens and the information is removed from the hard drive, it just backs up or downloads from the cloud or the backup.

This is a process that happens in trickles and then it just hits you all at once.

Most of it hit me within two weeks of coming back. Then I had a lot of the screen memories like . . . Originally, my memory of when I was taken from my house to enter the program, was that I was teleported through some sort of stargate out of my room.

After all of the screen memories had been broken through, I remembered I got up, walked out of my house to the front, got in a white van, and they drove me to Carswell Air Force Base.

So they’re real . . . I mean, they’re brilliant in how they do this brainwashing and blank-slating and . . . They are diabolical.

Question: (Inaudible)

Corey: Yes, well, a lot of the people that have had these 20-and-back experiences . . . and a lot of scientists, they will do six years, or eight years. They’ll come back and they’ve been . . . Not only have they been blank-slated, but they’ve been given screen memories that causes them to have a reaction and then be the biggest skeptics of all . . . that “Oh, nah, that’s just crazy talk”, when they were up there serving .

It’s different with each person how . . . They can’t use the same type of blank-slating and mind control with each person too. They have to have a personality profile and understand how the person . . . It’s a huge process and it’s a very involved process.

It’s not just a matter of them giving you a shot, giving you a false memory and then patting you on the butt and saying go on your way. It’s a huge process.

One more.

Question: Hi, Corey. I’m right here. My question, I hope it’s not too silly, and it might have been answered already, but it’s pretty simple. It’s concerning what we’re going through right now and all the protesting that’s happening all over the country.

To me I’ve been having mixed feelings, especially my generation’s been like a generation where they want to stand up and they want to be heard, yet I feel that the tactics of protesting might not be the best in my . . . from my perception.

Corey: Right.

Questioner: My question to you is what are the Blue Avians . . . what would be your advice to this uprising or protests against something that we know kind of has to happen and what not.

Corey: Well, I do believe that there need to be protests, but I do know for a fact that the control structure right now is to divide and conquer. And they know that the gig is up. They want us to be at each other’s throats, because imagine all of that passion being directed at the control structure and how quickly they would . . . I mean, it would be over.

They cannot allow that to happen.

So if we can redirect this passion, it would be a good thing. [Applause]

Thank you. Thank you.


Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. And here again with me is Emery Smith, a friend of mine for the last 10 years.

I’ve been leaning on you for a decade to do this, and you finally have. So, thank you, Emery. And thank you on behalf of all people in the world who want freedom and Full Disclosure.

Emery Smith: Oh, thanks for having me, Dave.

David: We were actually driving in the car, and we were talking about the bodies that you’d autopsied, but then you told me something in the car that I think sheds some deeper light on your experience.

And I’d like us to go into that part now, even though I think it’s farther along in your career.

But it helps to establish a fundamental truth, which is that insiders, typically, when you get a real one, they have lots of different, cool things that they’ve done.

So tell us about the Vatican.

Emery: Oh, the Vatican. Yes, yes.

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So a private organization went to the DoD [US Department of Defense] and the mil [military] labs I was working at, and they needed some technicians and some scientists to go to the Vatican to look at their archives, because they know that they had some information on a craft that was taken in New Mexico.

David: So there had been a UFO . . .

Emery: That was shot down.

David: Oh!

Emery: Yeah.

David: And it was a recent one.

Emery: Yes, very recent. And they took this craft . . .

David: Why would they shoot it down? Was it hostile? Did it do anything bad?

Emery: No, no, no, not at all.

David: Oh.

Emery: No, it just got too close to some of the weapons up there . . .

David: Oh! Okay.

Emery: . . . and from what I heard, from the debriefing.

And I don’t know where it crashed. I just know where it was at.

David: Do we know anything about what this craft looked like or what kind of occupants they found inside?

Emery: No, there were no occupants that was mentioned, but the craft did look like a tetrahedron.

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The best way I could put it is: make a tetrahedron out of PVC pipes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yep. And about eight feet in diameter.

David: Uh!

Emery: Yeah, and it has a light in the middle of it.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And this was like a robotic drone?

Emery: It always stays centered. Ah, it could have been. But then again, a lot of these craft are conscious, actually.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it can . . . Every now and then, it’ll strobe. And then it’ll fill up the spaces so you can’t see through it.

David: What will fill up spaces?

Emery: Like, you know, I just said it was an empty tetrahedron, like made out of PVC pipe?

David: Right.

Emery: So you could see through it, and you could see the light in the middle.

David: Oh!

Emery: Uh-huh. Yeah.

David: What color was the orb of light? Do we know?

Emery: It was blue, but it was very small, like probably three inches in diameter.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: And the tetrahedron itself was white?

Emery: It was . . . The outside of it was like if you made one with PVC pipe and it was pure white, and it was seamless.

David: Wow!

Emery: And if you got too close to it, it would actually fill in a space of . . . that you could not see into it.

David: But I still don’t know if I understand.

Emery: Okay. So if you have an empty tetrahedron that you can see through, and we’re only talking about the outside lines, okay?

David: Okay.

Emery: So you could see through it, and you can see this ball.

David: Oh.

Emery: And if you get too close to it, it’ll actually go solid.

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David: This tetrahedron goes solid?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And then what does it look like?

Emery: It’s just white. It’s just white.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, pure white.

David: So this appears to have been some kind of drone. There were no occupants in it.

Emery: There were no occupants, but it doesn’t mean . . . because that white light could be some sort of consciousness.

David: Or a being. Right.

Emery: Or a being.

David: Yeah.

Emery: So you cannot . . . Any time you see light, you have to think being first and then go from there.

David: So you’re saying, if I’m getting this right, that the Department of Defense had this craft, or whatever it is, get shot down in New Mexico.

And they’re drawing a blank as to what it is or where it came from.

Emery: Yeah. I don’t know where it was shot down. I just know it was stored in New Mexico, . . .

David: Oh!

Emery: . . . because that’s where I was at. But it was a first of its kind, so they had . . .

David: They have a very robust idea of what normally would crash, correct?

Emery: Yes.

David: They have an extensive catalog?

Emery: They have an extensive collection, I will say.

David: Yeah, ha, ha. Okay. But this skewed the charts in some way.

Emery: Yes. Yes, it gave off different, I guess, frequencies or something that they were amazed about. And it didn’t show any aggression or whatever after it was shot down.

And it was still obviously operational.

David: And you say that this craft was in the category where it appears that the material itself is a life form somehow?

Emery: Well, I don’t know about THAT, because I wasn’t in on that part. All I know is that ball on the inside had energy.

David: Okay.

Emery: So energy and light always could mean life.

David: Okay. So what did they decide to do about this craft? If they don’t know what it is, they don’t know where it came from, what kind of resources can they draw upon at that point?

Emery: Well, what they do is they form a team, and they do a big background check around the world, because there’s other catalogs in other countries and other religions.

And, of course, the Vatican has always been a huge database. It has a huge archive of many things: artifacts and things they have found from space and have collected over many, many, many, many years.

And they have an underground base under the Vatican.

So two scientists and myself were deployed to that area to the Vatican to an undisclosed location in the Vatican. And we took an elevator down about seven or eight floors.

David: Hm.

Emery: And that’s kind of how it all started. We got permission from the Vatican. They set it all up.

We’re just contractors going there to collect any type of information that would be similar to this device.

David: So is it common that there is interagency cooperation?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: Usually for exchange for favors.

David: Now, you are an Air Force veteran, right?

Emery: Yes.

David: And we’ve often heard from various insiders that there’s like an Air Force wing of the military-industrial complex and a Navy wing. They kind of broke off after World War II . . .

Emery: That’s true.

David: And they’ve grown into these totally separate industrial complexes.

Emery: That’s very true.

David: So would you estimate that most of your experience is in the Air Force side, because that’s where you started, or . . .

Emery: Yeah, for this particular thing, I would say so, but they still work together when they have questions.

David: Okay.

Emery: They’re not banging heads.

David: Right.

Emery: But they do like to keep their secrets together, because the more they can show the government, the more money they can get at the end of the year.

So if I have some really cool things that I’ve collected this year for this corporation, this mil lab or Air Force mil lab, then we get more money.

And so they don’t always share the secrets of what they’re doing, but they do always work together to figure out things that they can’t figure out. They work always . . . They’re very compliant with that.

David: So I think the military budget, even on-the-books military budget, recently was like in the neighborhood of $864 billion – the ridiculous $700 toilet seats and that kind of thing, and the little nuts that cost $65.

So the idea being that the military budget has a lot of room in it for off-balance sheet expenditures.

Emery: That is correct. You know, you could get a toilet seat for $700. And they WILL go to Home Depot and buy it for $2.00. And they’ll buy 2,000 of them. And then the rest of that money goes where?

David: Well, apparently, you guys are fighting over it is what you’re telling me now. It’s like a healthy . . .

Emery: It is a competition.

David: Competition.

Emery: But from my experience, I mean, and I’m not one of the executives there by far or their financial advisers, but just from what I heard from some of the higher upper-class people in there that they usually always get about the same.

David: Oh.

Emery: So it’s not this . . . They’re not beating them by billions of dollars.

David: Right.

Emery: And it is actually not billions, it’s trillions.

David: Right, when you encounter all the other ways that money is being generated.

Emery: Correct.

David: So if we have this craft that comes down, and they don’t know what it is, just in a very general sense, if you can speculate – and I understand you might not have definitive knowledge, but I’d like your speculations. It’s going to be probably better than mine.

How often do you think this kind of stuff is happening?

Emery: Daily.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: DAILY? There’s crashes of UFOs daily?

Emery: Well, they may be . . .

David: I would not have expected that.

Emery: They’re actually identified, because when we say “UFO”, we’re thinking . . .

David: Vehicles.

Emery: Vehicles. But there ARE a lot of vehicles that are recovered from space, or shot down from space, and then recovered and brought back too. And they’re not always, of course, inhabited at all.

David: Right.

Emery: And a lot of these things too, actually, it’s like the Trojan horse. They want us to bring this in here, so we can learn about good technology and can reverse engineer something.

David: A positive Trojan horse.

Emery: Right – a very positive Trojan horse.

David: Not like an AI infestation . . .

Emery: No!

David: . . . that swarm over the planet.

Emery: No, not at all.

David: Okay.

Emery: So, and that’s what . . . It’s so exciting that the scientists do realize that. And a lot of the corporations also learn about that.

The sad part is once they figure it out, it’s forever for it to come to the public for us to use to help make our lives better.

David: All right. I’m still a little reeling here, and probably they are too. Every day? EVERY DAY?

Emery: Yes, every day.

David: Wouldn’t there be people filming this with their phones? Wouldn’t there be incident reports and . . .

Emery: Well, I think there are a lot of abnormal things people are seeing on YouTube and all these things.

David: Okay.

Emery: And probably 90% of them are fake disinformation . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . or fake alien reproduction vehicles that they’ll fly by just to make people fearful or whatnot. So there IS this happening.

But you have to understand, this doesn’t happen usually over a major city. These things are usually . . . now are being shot down in XO atmospheric areas and brought back and then brought back very carefully to the surface here.

David: Okay.

Emery: So it’s not always like you shoot a jet down, and you see it streaming down, and kaboom.

David: Right.

Emery: You know, that’s very rare.

David: So in a sense then, if we could liken this in some ways to a war, they are going to be very meticulous about not leaving any vehicles on the battlefield.

Emery: Oh, you will not see any vehicles on the battlefield.

David: Right.

Emery: No.

David: So whatever happens, they bring it in . . .

Emery: It’s intentional

David: They take a look.

Emery: Right.

David: Right. So that would then mean, I would guess, that there probably is some sort of diplomatic relationship with various ET groups. And then when people try to get in and breach that agreement or that contract, if you will, that’s when problems arise? Would you say that’s true?

Emery: Yeah, just like with Eisenhower. I mean, there were some nice, good things happening with the meetings. There have been many presidential meetings with certain ET civilizations.

And I think what happens is just because the president shakes hands with an extraterrestrial doesn’t always mean that the president’s military-industrial complex is also part of that contract.

David: Right.

Emery: And that’s the problem. So we did . . . Hm . . . Our contract is void and null now because of this problem.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: So if you could again speculate – and I understand that this is purely off the top of your head . . .

Emery: Sure.

David: . . . or maybe you have some briefings, I don’t know. If you’re saying that one a day on the average is being recovered, that would be 365 per year, how many of those per year might you think would be unconventional or otherwise requiring a deeper degree of research for them to understand?

Emery: Well, let me get one thing. When I say collecting one a day, it could be a piece of equipment.

David: Ah.

Emery: Okay? It could be an archaeological find, or it could be something from space that they have collected. Or it could be something we shot down.

David: Wow!

Emery: So those are the . . . When I say that, that’s how much data we are getting in on these devices EVERY day.

David: Wow!

Emery: So that’s why it’s growing so much, and so much money is going into these projects, because it’s an unlimited amount of . . . We can’t keep up with what’s happening.

So they’re starting to store these things. And then certain things, certain organizations, are buying massive amounts of satellites to track these things with neutrino light detectors and forming their own ways of getting this technology as well, instead of just the military-industrial complex.

David: I want to run something by you, and it annoys me, okay? So this is a question that I ask out of some degree of anger.

But it very much upset me when I was talking to my insider, Jacob, where he was describing the redundancy of technology. That in some cases they found so much of a certain type of technology, like for example, ruins on the planet Mars, just in case we ever get there in the future, they’ve actually bulldozed over ancient sites and buried them, because they feel like they know what’s there, and they don’t want it to be so easily discovered.

Have you ever heard of things like that going on?

Emery: I’ve heard of things like that going on here on Earth.

David: Really?

Emery: And I wouldn’t pass it by anyone else that that’s happening on Mars as well.

David: So do you think then that the technology that they have in these secret programs is so immensely vast that in a lot of cases they can bring things in, and it’s not really going to advance our knowledge that much?

Emery: It will always, usually 90% of the time, advance our knowledge, yes.

David: Oh, really?

Emery: I mean, if they bring any type of equipment, or bodies, or craft, or whatever it is, we are still learning. We are the medieval people here trying to get a hammer and a wheel made.

So all these little bits and pieces all still fit together sometimes. So you might get a piece today and a piece two years from now, and like, “Ah, here’s the two pieces. Great!”

David: Oh, wow.

Emery: And that’s why it’s important now that a lot of the military-industrial complexes and the military, and the private organizations, are now teaming up for things they can’t figure out, because they’ll work on a project . . . they used to work on projects for maybe five or 10 years without asking for help.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’s kind of like the husband and wife driving around, and the husband is not going to ask and stop for directions whatsoever, because we’re too stubborn.

David: Right.

Emery: So that’s kind of where it’s at now, but it’s different. So they’re sharing information. They’re sharing data but very limitedly and very carefully.

David: It does seem to me as if the intellectual capital, the, if you will, financial and informational value of having more skilled employees working on this stuff, it would appear that once we have disclosure, and we can get a lot more, potentially tens or hundreds of millions of people more, working on all this stuff, that we will quantum leap even beyond wherever they are now so much. That’s what I would think.

Emery: Yes. Yeah, there’s still rules, and laws, and regulations universally, but as far as technologically, we will overnight transform the world within like a week.

David: Right.

Emery: I mean, you’ll be able to 3D terraform houses in any place 50′ above the Amazon so you’re not destroying the trees.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’ll be cities will be put up everywhere. I know even our government has contacted me to orchestrate and architect a special city here that’s self-sustainable, that’s off-grid, has its own communications, its own electric, and all this stuff, because they’re preparing to do this model everywhere.

David: Wow!

Emery: And our government is in full support of that, especially POTUS.

David: This doesn’t make me think that we have any overpopulation problem at all. If you have people who can become skilled workers, we want more of them. We should be colonizing. We should be going out and developing inside moons, developing inside other planets and on the surface of these planets.

We don’t need to get rid of people. We need more people.

Emery: Right. We will need more people, because once the intelligence and all of this information comes out, then everyone’s going to be really smart really quick. So then people will be training immediately on this stuff.

And the secret science behind how to do all of that will be revealed.

David: Wow!

Emery: And as soon as that’s revealed, you’re right, it’ll be like taking a flight from LA to New York, but to the Moon or Mars, to help colonize.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And it’ll be that safe and that easy.

David: So I want to make sure we get into the Vatican.

Emery: Okay.

David: You go down this elevator.

Emery: Yes.

David: You’re on an invited mission to try to figure out what the heck this tetrahedron thing is.

Emery: Right.

David: So what do you see? Let’s . . . First, just tell me what the elevator looked like. Anything unusual about the elevator?

Emery: No, it was a very large elevator, larger than normal. You could put a car in it.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Normal elevator. Very clean.

David: Okay. Round, square?

Emery: No, square. Rectangular.

David: Okay. So the doors open, and what do you see?

Emery: We walk in. The floor was white. Walls were white. It was like a black rail.

David: A black rail where?

Emery: There was just like a black rail around the inside of the . . . like a rail you could hold on to.

David: Okay. On the walls?

Emery: Yeah, on the walls, about 3′ up.

David: Okay.

Emery: There’s no windows, no glass, nothing like that. It was just a normal elevator. It was very silent. I didn’t know it actually started moving.

David: Oh!

Emery: It was like the most quietest elevator I’ve ever . . . You know, you usually feel the little bounce.

David: Right. Right.

Emery: There was no bounce. It was like we were sitting actually just talking, whenever we got . . .and when the doors shut, I was like, “Is someone going to push a button or something?”

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: I get antsy, you know?

David: Right.

Emery: And then I was like . . . And all of a sudden, like in a minute, the doors open. I was like, “What? Vatican elevator’s broken?”

David: Are you wearing some kind of uniform or civvies [civilian clothes] at this point, or what?

Emery: I’m wearing civvies, yeah.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah, civvies. Nothing special.

David: So you go in after the doors open, . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . and what do you see?

Emery: The first thing I see is a giant auditorium-type area. It reminded me . . . and I don’t like referring to movies, but in Harry Potter’s “Hogwarts”, I think it was like the vault system with all the little trolls, where you look up and you see all these square vaults, but it was very rustic.

This was spotless clean. It was beautiful glass everywhere. It was just like . . .

David: Oh, my God!

Emery: . . . these huge cubicles of glass. And some were different sizes. So it was really neat.

And through these cubicles of glass were all these metal strips and lines.

And then there were these platforms about 6′ in diameter that could travel to any of these things.

And there was no jerky movements to them. They just kind of flowed and then could turn, and . . .

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: . . . but only on angles. They didn’t do circles, or anything, to whatever . . . And there were many people on these things doing things with the vaults and looking through them and doing things.

David: Wow!

Emery: But I didn’t get to go . . . I was only on the first floor.

David: So this is kind of different. This is why I wanted you to say this, and why I wanted to do this right now is: the Vatican Library, you think it’s like stacks of books and bookshelves.

Emery: Well . . .

David: This is very different.

Emery: Well, we’re getting to that, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . because we had to walk through this area to get to that old . . . that other stuff you see in the movies of books everywhere and things like that.

David: But what you’re describing right now is like straight out of a sci-fi movie. It must have been just breathtakingly incredible.

Emery: It was the most amazing thing . . . one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen, . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . because they’re . . . the glass too, I was like, “This is . . .” They keep all this cool equipment behind this glass. I’m thinking, “That’s ridiculous!”

Glass can break, and earthquakes, and, you know, whatever . . . explosions.

And he’s like, “Oh, no. That’s not glass. That’s metal. That’s a type of metal.”

The head director . . .

David: Wow! Like transparent aluminum, maybe, something like that?

Emery: Yeah, it was like a . . . Well, he said it’s a . . . he did . . . He just said it was a metal. It’s not glass.

David: Okay.

Emery: That’s all he said. He didn’t give specifics, and I wasn’t there to learn about the glass, even though I wanted to know.

David: So what was behind the glass? Let’s just be clear about that.

Emery: Many different things. I mean, there was equipment back there that I’ve never seen before.

Some things looked like weapons. Some things looked like scrolls but on big plaques of like kind of a . . . It looked like Plexiglas, like stacks of them.

And they all had their own thing. There’s no labeling on the outside of these doors, so you know.

David: Wow!

Emery: None. No numbers; no symbols. It’s just a gigantic, . . . like six floors of these cubicles.

David: Geez.

Emery: Unreal. I mean . . . And like I said, cubicles there too were as small as a foot (12”). And some were as big as 20′.

David: Was the thing like a hexagon or like a square?

Emery: It was all square.

David: Okay. Wow!

Emery: Yeah, it was all square.

David: Wow!

Emery: So as we were walking, I did notice some equipment that looked like giant . . . those Dorjes, those ancient brass things that they used to hold out.

David: Yeah. In Tibet.

Emery: Yeah, in Tibet.

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I noticed they were in the shape of that, but they were solid, and they were luminous.

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David: Wow!

Emery: And there were no electrical cords going to it at all.

David: I’ve always thought that the double Dorje thing is some kind of technology that they just emulated with these little sculptures they have.

Emery: Right, but this was like a really cool, artistic, modern, ultramodern version.

David: Wow!

Emery: It was really neat with really cool edges on it.

David: Wow!

Emery: And it was glowing. And there was no electrical cords in there or sockets. It was just there.

David: Wow!

Emery: So . . . And you have to understand I wasn’t there for that. So I can’t stop . . . This is not like walking through the Louvre, of course.

David: Yeah.

Emery: We’re on a mission, and you just keep your mouth shut, and we go where we’re going to go, which we wanted to go to the archives to find out about this, this device, or this ship, this craft with this light.

David: So what happened after you got through this majestic crystalline auditorium?

Emery: After we got through that, there was another double doors at the bottom, and they just slid open.

David: Like glass doors, or . . .

Emery: Hm-hmm, glass doors. They just slid open – just like separated.

David: Any noise?

Emery: No noise at all.

David: Wow!

Emery: It was very quiet in there. No echoing, either, which was weird for me, because I thought even like a voice would echo in this room.

David: And when you saw the people on those moving platforms, what were they wearing?

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Emery: They were all in white, like those . . . you know the surgical suits that are made out of that fabric?

David: Ah.

Emery: And they had also on their heads the normal white caps.

David: Wow!

Emery: They’re in a clean suit.

David: Clean room.

Emery: Right, but it wasn’t surgically clean. I think whatever they were doing, they were all holding something and looking at something and looking into the glass.

David: Wow!

Emery: So I don’t know what they were doing at all. I have no clue.

David: And do you think that there was anything beyond the first layer of these cages? Like was there deeper layers beyond one layer, or was it just all on the surface?

Emery: On the first floor where I was, I could not see . . . I mean, it just ended. Some were 10′ deep. Some were 30′ deep. You know, like I said, some were small, like 12” cubes, and some were enormous.

We walked by one that was at least 20′ tall (almost 7 meters).

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: Amazing.

Emery: Yeah, it is amazing.

David: So what happens after these quiet doors open up? Where do you go next?

Emery: So now we’re in the main library, I believe.

David: Hm.

Emery: And there’s these giant, cylindrical, gas-controlled tubes that are probably anywhere from 6′ to 3′ in diameter. And there’s hundreds of them that go up very, very high.

David: You said 6′ to 3′ in diameter?

Emery: Yeah, 6′ to 3′ in diameter, glass, or whatever – metal, glass, or whatever they call it.

David: Okay.

Emery: And there’s windows on them that open up, and it goes up and down. And they have a thing that they hold, and they can scroll up, and then all those books go down. Like they’re all on shelves, all these books, okay, and all these tablets. And they go up and down.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah, up and down inside these cylindrical columns, which I heard were vacuumed and gas-controlled to keep them from getting old.

David: Wow!

Emery: And so they took us to this place and went to this one column. And he just brought it right up – all these different books about this particular craft. And we were able to get all that information.

David: What did the books look like, and how old were they?

Emery: Well, it looks like these books were actually translated from another book that someone wrote, because they said a lot of this was all translated. So it was all perfectly written and typed, like very new . . . just like today, like nothing fancy at all, to be honest.

David: Okay.

Emery: It was in binders and folders and whatnot. So it wasn’t fancy or futuristic.

David: Okay.

Emery: It was just a huge database. But in many columns I looked at were very old things, like very leather-looking books.

And I noticed one had blocks in it. And I thought they were blocks, but they were tablets with information on them.

David: Did any of the leather books have a color cover, like a bright color?

Emery: Yes, I did see one that had many . . . like one of the columns had many colors in it, . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . and many sizes too. Like I saw one shelf had 6′ books.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, it looked like books. I mean, it was far away, maybe 30′ away.

David: Well, when Peterson described his trip into the Vatican, he said that a lot of the books were leather-bound and that they had buckles on them . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . and that they were color . . . like bright colors, like a bright red, bright green.

Emery: Yes. Yes, yes, I saw that, and it was very thick.

David: Wow!

Emery: The leather was very thick, and they did have metal on them. I’ve seen a lot of that just walking to where we had to go.

David: So did you guys get to take the book and bring it to a reading area, like a table or something?

Emery: Yeah, no, he pulled it out. And there’s tables everywhere that are off the ground on pedestals, and he just laid it out on this 6′ glass pedestal, or whatever it was, glass or not glass. I’ll just call it metal glass.

And he opened it up, and he is the one who shows us. We can’t touch it, actually.

David: Oh.

Emery: So he shows like, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And there was also a translator that was there, because the English was not that good.

And there were two other of their technicians there that upkeep, like library bookkeepers. So that was really interesting, librarians.

So the next thing that happened is they opened it up, and he just started scrolling through. And we were looking at it. I was looking at it with the two scientists.

And this is what we wanted. It was like exactly what . . .

So then we asked him if he had anything else that was similar to this. And he did.

David: Hm.

Emery: So then he took us to another area and showed us another book. And they actually had sketches of the same exact thing . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . that was ancient.

David: Really?

Emery: I mean, I don’t know how old it was, but it was pretty old because it wasn’t written on paper – this giant sketch scroll that someone, some monk, had drawn.

And it had a lot of physics on it, and it was all in a different language.

So we were able to get a picture of that downloaded, and we got a copy of that book, and we escorted that back to home.

David: Did you get a sense from just what was spoken out loud or translated as to what this thing was or where it had come from, anything that specific?

Emery: No, because once I got back, I was pulled off of that project. All I can tell you is it was, I think, I believe, an intentional device that was put here to help. And then that was it. I’ve never had a part of that project again.

David: When it was in this foreign language, and you said it wasn’t really like a book, what was it on? What did it look like?

Emery: It looked like wax paper.

David: Hm.

Emery: Yeah, and it looked like it was black wax paper. I think you could maybe . . . as you wrote on it, whatever that stuff was would peel off so you could write on it.

David: Hm.

Emery: It looked like something like that.

David: Wow!

Emery: But I wasn’t able to touch it at all, but it was the exact same device – I mean the exact same craft, but it was a lot larger in form. It was probably 10 times larger from this person’s . . . Whoever sketched this, it was 10 times larger than the one we had.

David: So how do you think that idea that we discussed about people starting to be trained as disclosure happens? How do you see that unfolding?

Emery: Well, the first thing that’s going to happen is everyone’s going to want to know where to go.

“I want to be this person. I want to help. I want to know how to grow something overnight – a tomato. You know, I want to know about anti-gravity – how I can make my car float.”

So people are going to want to know right away, and it’s going to be up to the government what kind of information is going to be released to the universities and public, because they’re going to do it correctly.

They are going to do it through probably universities first.

David: Right.

Emery: And hopefully, a lot of the other scientists that are out there will pick up on what they’re doing. And then they’ll be able to live stream it and have a source way to get it to the public, where other people can just start thinking about it, because you have to free-source everything in order to stimulate the entire planet into wanting to do something instead of holding it in universities and saying, “Well, you have to learn this first, and dah, dah, dah, dah.”

David: Right.

Emery: But I think the education part will also be a lot easier in learning this stuff, because with the advent of all these new technologies coming out, also comes out technologies how to learn faster, . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . how to take care of yourself better. You know, a lot of these things are daily things that we do are going to be much simpler.

David: Very cool.

Emery: Yeah.

David: All right. Well, thank you, Emery, for being here. And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, with our special guest, Emery Smith.


Source: Cosmic Disclosure

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode.

And where we last left off, he had had a very interesting meeting with the Super Federation, and I guess you thought you were going to go home.

Corey Goode: I did, yes.

David: But that isn’t what happened, was it?

Corey: No. No. Right after this meeting, I ended up in the foyer of the Super Federation base, and it was at that point where I was picked up by a Blue Sphere I thought to bring me home.


But instead, I ended up in that huge domed area of the Anshar temple complex where I had first appeared well over a year ago when I first met the Anshar.

I appeared there. There was . . . It was bustling.

There were people in line to go into this one opening that went in towards the cleansing ceremony, and I immediately saw Aree and her sister walking towards me with huge grins on their faces.

David: Corey, you are now calling her Aree, and you’ve also mentioned her sister, so could you please clarify why the name change, and who is her sister exactly?

Corey: Aree . . . She’s had me call her that from the beginning. I was continuing to use her full name: Ka’Aree.

Ka . . . She comes from the House of Ka, apparently, her and her sister.

I was doing that to be able to tell who was genuine in saying that they had been in communication with the Anshar.

David: It is interesting to point out that in The Law of One Material, they specifically mention the Ka as a name for the spiritual body that we all have.

Corey: Hm.

David: So that is a direct Law of One reference, interestingly enough.

Corey: Yes.

David: So who is her sister exactly? Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Corey: Yeah. Her sister is very similar to her in just about every way. I’m keeping her name to myself for now.

She’s doing a lot of outreach to people right now on the surface.

David: What specific types of outreach would you say that her sister is doing?

Corey: Well, she’s one of the people that are sitting in these egg-shaped chairs, that I’ve described before, that are networked together between their mass consciousness and ours. They reach out to us in dreams.


Later on, I get to learn how to use these chairs a little bit more on my visit, and it’s also somewhat of an entertainment for them. But they watch us, observe us, and give us guidance remotely from these chairs.

David: Normally, if people have things appearing in their mind, we would call that schizophrenia or something along these lines.

So what is the dividing line between this guidance and a profound mental illness of somebody “hearing voices”?

Corey: Usually they’re not speaking to people in voices. What they’re doing is . . . I’ll just go ahead and describe:

When you’re in one of these chairs, you can use it to go to any gathering, or place where there’s just one person, and be in the room with them.

You are basically above their shoulders and head looking down on the scene, almost like what people would picture angels doing.

They sit there, and they observe conversations or observe a person working, and if they think, “Oh, I could guide them in this way. This would make this much difference in the timeline and help here and here,” then they do this kind of a “bling” [a sound], where they give the person a download, and it’s like an information package that’s compressed.

And then it decompresses, and people just get all of this flood of ideas, and we call them “downloads”.

David: And it appears as original thought without the people realizing where it came from.

Corey: Exactly.

David: Okay. So you meet Aree and her sister. Could you tell us what happens then? You said they’re really smiling. Did you know why?

Corey: Oh, yeah. It was because of the meeting I had just been at. They were very excited about it.

David: So what happens next at this point?

Corey: They immediately guide me to the corridor that leads out to that huge cavern where the Anshar city used to be.


If you remember, the city was somehow removed and put into this temporal anomaly.


David: Right.

Corey: There was one of the Anshar bus craft waiting for us.


People were boarding it, and Anshar were boarding it, and there were already Anshar on board sitting.

David: About how many were in the craft?

Corey: More than 15.

David: Okay. So it’s pretty crowded.

Corey: We take off, and then we head right into that temporal anomaly.

David: What does it look like as you go into it? What do you see?

Corey: Well, I didn’t get to see anything . . .

David: Oh.

Corey: . . . because it’s like someone turned on this huge magnet next to my head, and my consciousness does this . . . I mean, I kind of pass out and fall to the side, and then I come right to immediately once we get through it.

It’s like just some sort of barrier that affects my consciousness.

David: Hm.

Corey: You can see all the cities laid out all along the sphere. The tops of the buildings are facing towards the center point in the sphere.

David: What do you mean by “the sphere”? Is it a sphere of energy? Is it a cavern?

Corey: It’s a spherical energetic bubble.

David: Oh. Okay.

Corey: And along the inside of the sphere is where all of the cities have been joined together.


David: Okay.

Corey: So we fly down into the Anshar city area, and we approach some of the huge domed buildings.


And we land on top of one of them on this . . . it’s almost like a helicopter pad, but it’s larger.


It’s on top of the building kind of on stilts.

So we disembark from the craft, and we all start heading to this area on the roof that was an area that you walk in, and then there were two oval holes in the floor that are sunk into the wall that go down like tubes.

And each of them began to walk up and stand in those tubes and go down.

As we got closer and closer, it was my turn. I thought it was going to be like a slide you jump in and phew, down you go, but I stood, and there was like a barrier that moved a little bit when I stood on it, and when I looked down, I saw the Anshar that went before me looking up at me.

I saw this part of their face and forehead [Corey motions to the left side of his head] as they kind of disappeared. And then I went down.

It was just like riding an elevator.

David: Did you get any fear of heights or anything just to walk into a hole?

Corey: Yeah. I had an uneasy feeling. Like I said, I thought I was going to . . . I had the feeling . . . My brain was telling me that I was just going to drop.

David: So what happens as you go through this tube, and where do you end up at the bottom?

Corey: Well, we end up at the bottom, and we walk out, and there’s this huge area inside the dome where Anshar are walking around all over the place.

They are wearing all kinds of colorful clothing that is obviously woven. It wasn’t this high-tech type of clothing that I had seen prior.

Anyway, we’re walking through this group of people, all bustling about, going on their way to do whatever they were doing, and we see some of the people walking out, and some of the people coming in, but it’s through like a wall. It looked like people were just walking through the wall.

David: Wow!

Corey: We walked through, and there was a little sticking, kind of a stickiness energy, as we walked through, but we walked through, and we were in a bustling area of people walking around, people flying around like Superman.

David: Really?

Corey: The elders, the people who were much older, will fly around using the technology that they have to fly around like Superman. But everyone else was walking around like we would at a mall.

David: Well, now is it a technology, or is it like telekinesis? Is it some kind of psychic ability they have to do that?

Corey: It’s a technology.

David: Really? Well, it must have been impressive to see, I would imagine.

Corey: Yeah, it was, because you would see people coming down and lifting . . . just, I mean, like Superman.

David: Why do you think only the elders were able to do this or allowed to do this or something?

Corey: The elders . . . they looked different than the rest of the Anshar.

I was told that it’s not uncommon for fourth density and other types of beings as they age, they get taller and skinnier, and this, apparently, is what happens with them. They grow another two or so feet, and they get very, very thin, very frail, and their skin gets even whiter. And they had wrinkles all around their lips and around their eyes.

David: I want to point out something so bizarre, which is: I had this call from Pete Peterson where he starts telling me about these Nordics that he had encountered when he was in there, and he said exactly the same thing, that they go through three growth phases.

The third growth phase causes them to get taller and skinnier.

Corey: Another thing that I saw that they wore is they wear an eye protection. Their eyes get very sensitive.

We walked to a building that was a building for Aree’s family group and the offshoots of her family group. They were all together in this big building.

I was brought to the area where her family group lives, and I was shown a room, a small room, that had been set up for me to sleep in. I was going to be there for a while.

David: Wow.

Corey: She brought me to the bed that was created for me, because they don’t use beds.

David: Well, hold on a minute. They don’t use beds why? What do they do instead of sleeping?

Corey: They do some type of cycle that lasts like 45 or 50 minutes every several days. They don’t have a sleep cycle.

David: They don’t need to lie down when they do that cycle?

Corey: No. They sit in the chairs.

David: Okay.

Corey: So on this bed, the first thing I see are three shirts, three pairs of khaki slacks, and a bunch of toiletries, just strewn out.

The clothes look like they were from like JCPenney’s in the 1980s. It was blue, just regular, blue polo shirts and khaki pants, no belt, and they had underwear, deodorant.

So I saw all of this, and I realized they were going to have me there a little bit longer than they ever had before.

David: Wow!

Corey: And sure enough, I ended up doing two sleep cycles when I was there, two full sleep cycles, so I was there probably about three days.

David: Was this the size of like a small dormitory room, or did it have some space to it? What was your room like?

Corey: No, it was very small. It was probably eight feet by six feet.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: But, I mean, I wouldn’t spend much time in there.

David: Obviously, you’re going to need to eat something. So what was the food that they provided?

Corey: The food was all vegetarian, of course, a lot of raw vegetables, and a lot of interesting sweet cakes that they made out of vegetables that were really good.

David: Would you say it’s the best stuff you’ve ever tasted in your life, or was it just okay?

Corey: To be honest, it was kind of bland.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. It was just . . . I mean, there was no seasoning. They were just eating raw vegetables, and they didn’t eat that much, and they didn’t eat that often.

David: Did you get the sense that you were being fed the same things that they were . . .

Corey: Yeah.

David: . . . or did they have to modify it?

Corey: No. I was sitting, eating along with them.

David: Where you were sitting, did it look at all familiar to what we would have as like a cafeteria table or something?

Corey: Yeah. It was a cafeteria.

David: Really?

Corey: Right. They had a commons area, a large commons area. The roof was higher. It was about two stories high. And then they had private areas where they had private . . . areas where they could have their own . . . kind of like a room, but they didn’t really spend much time in them.

David: So if you need to eat more often than they do, would they bring you to this cafeteria and then not have food, or would they always eat with you?

Corey: I only ate three times.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. But, I mean, you’ve seen how I am anyway since I went over to being a vegetarian. I ate one, maybe two very small meals a day, very small.

The food was very high in nutrients, obviously, because, I mean, you immediately felt a pickup from the food . . .

David: Wow!

Corey: . . . when you ate it.

David: So it was energized somehow?

Corey: Yeah, but it tasted like normal vegetables.

David: At some point, you’re going to have to be asking yourself: “They bring me into this bedroom. They give me these weird, old clothes.”

I would imagine you would be turning to them and saying, “Guys, I thought I was going home. What’s going on here? Why do I have to be here long enough to sleep over? What’s your agenda here? What’s happening to me?”

Corey: Well, Aree told me that I was being given a gift basically, that I was being allowed to spend time with her family group, and also go through the preparations to go with them to this base outside of Saturn to meet this “Council at Saturn”, as they call them.

So, you know, I got to spend a lot of time with these people.

I was told not to touch anyone – to keep my distance.

David: Which is exactly what Pete Peterson said too, interestingly.

Corey: Right. When I first arrived, they stood a good distance away and weren’t being that friendly, but they saw Aree . . . When I first got there, she took me by the arm, touched me and took me by the arm and guided me to show me where I was going to be staying.

After that, it had an impact on the people. They started getting closer and closer, started asking me questions, talking to me. They were very curious about the surface world.

David: Let me just ask you one thing that might clear some misunderstandings up for our audience.

People might be inclined to think that these beings are interdimensional, and that, therefore, they would be like ghosts to us, and, therefore, if you were going to go there, that you would have to be like a ghost.

Corey: These are not higher dimensional or different dimensional beings. These are us from the future.

They traveled back into time to preserve their timeline. They are flesh and blood just like us.

So after the first day, the children and the other people started coming closer and closer in, spending time with me, close enough to where I could touch them, but I didn’t.

At some point, there was kind of a parting of the waves, people were getting out of the way, and I look up across the room, and there’s Gonzales. He looks very haggard. He looks beat.

He sees me, and he starts to walk across, and I meet him, and he just drops into one of the chairs.

I go over to one of the chairs, and I sit in it, and I mentally guide it over, the way they showed me how to do, over next to him, and asked him, what are you doing here? What’s going on?

David: So you can steer the chair around just with your thought and move it to different areas?

Corey: Easily.

David: So you zip over to Gonzales’s chair, and then what happens?

Corey: If you remember, Gonzales got to spend a lot of time with the Anshar. He was actually staying with them in their city at one point.

David: Right.

Corey: And as a part of the work he was doing while there, he was working with this race of giants, a red-haired, six-fingered race of giants.


He was starting to make some headway with them when he was basically kicked out by the Anshar for his behavior.

David: Now, we have enormous numbers of records of giant skeletons that have been found all over the Earth. Are those red-haired giants related to them somehow?

Corey: They are.

David: In what way?

Corey: Well, let me just go ahead and tell you what occurred.

David: Okay.

Corey: Gonzales said that for the better part of a year, if not more, he’s been working with the red-haired giants. He’d been trying to get them to accept some of the healing technologies from the Mayans.

However, they have been refusing any type of help from the Mayans, thinking it was some sort of leverage for them to say that . . .

[The] Secret Space Program Alliance and the Mayans have, at times, rescued red-haired giants from various places on the planet and brought them to this sanctuary.

“We don’t want the healing until you can get our royal family, basically, that’s being held by the Cabal in a base.”

David: Okay. Well, there’s kind of a lot of questions that that raises.

Corey: Yeah, and it doesn’t make sense for them to make a demand like that.

David: I was under the impression that the red-haired giants died off completely. There’s none of them on the surface of the Earth now.

Corey: There are none of them on the surface of the Earth now.

David: So then why are we talking about them as if they still exist? That’s the part I . . .

Corey: Because they do.

David: Okay.

Corey: At one point, they controlled a huge area of North and Central America. These beings are genetic creations of this Pre-Adamite race, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . you know, that was in Antarctica. They created these giants to manage humans, their slave population of humans.

After the cataclysm occurred, and the Pre-Adamites were basically wiped off the face of the Earth, or so we thought, these giants had to fend for themselves.

And during this time, they were eating humans. They were causing a lot of problems.

After a number of years after this cataclysm, when humans started to organize again, they started going out in hunting parties and killing off these giants.

So the giants had to go underground, and they went deep, deep into the bowels of the Earth into some of these ecosystems deep in the ground that we’ve told you about, or that we’ve talked about on “Cosmic Disclosure” before.

David: So what we’re then seeing is: We have American Indian tribes going after the red-haired giants. We have people in Europe and Asia going after the giants, and they retreated to underground areas?

Corey: Caverns with ecosystems.

David: Okay.

Corey: Their health suffered because they didn’t have the nutrients they needed, the sunlight. They were eating what was down there, and it was affecting their health not in a positive way. They were getting thinner and thinner.

They hunted one species, a humanoid species, that lived in the Inner Earth, into extinction, because they became very fond of the taste of them, and they wreaked havoc on a few other of the beings that were down . . .

David: Would they look just like one of us only larger, or is there something unusual about the shape of their face or their head?

Corey: Yeah, they have big foreheads, big thick jaws, double rows of teeth. They would not fit in and look like just a large human.

David: So even if you shrank them down to our size, they’d look very, very different?

Corey: Right.

David: Interesting. So they live in these underground areas. They’re essentially wiping out other underground populations of humanoids you’re saying.

Corey: Right. Well, what finally ended up happening in their history is that some of their royal caste helped them start to get it together, as they say.

They were a mess when they were refugees under the ground. So they found areas that would sustain a small population. They controlled their number, their population numbers, and some of the royal caste and religious caste of these giants went to various stasis chambers and put themselves into stasis.

David: I’m just curious now about when we look at the records of their civilization in the Americas, we find the so-called “mound builders”, and there’s always these dirt mounds that are kind of pyramid-shaped.

People would dig into the mounds, and they’d find giant skeletons inside. So the giant skeletons and the mounds are always one and the same thing.

So it seems that these people had some desire to keep building pyramids. Why do you think that is?

Corey: Well, the giants were the ones that were supposedly directing humans, or controlling humans, when they were building out the infrastructure and cities for the Pre-Adamites.

So maybe, I’m speculating, these giants were, I guess, the foreman on these jobs, and they were making sure that the human slaves were completing the jobs.

David: The mounds that people dug into, we never really saw any type of written books or . . . How literate do you think they were? Did the flood affect them so badly that they . . .

Corey: Yes.

David: . . . lost a lot of their language?

Corey: They lost everything.

David: Really?

Corey: Right. They were in the same boat as the humans. Everything was lost. So . . .

David: Then how would they know about these caverns under the ground if they’re essentially now illiterate?

Corey: Well, they were forced down in. They were forced to go in and explore and find these areas.

David: Okay.

Corey: What finally happened is they got their people together, the giants, and they said, “Okay, we have these little pockets of areas that will sustain this number. So maintain these numbers. We’re going to go into stasis, and when we pop out, that way we will be as strong and as powerful as we are now.

“And when we pop out during the time of these great energetic changes, we will be more useful.”

But what happened is . . . There was over 130 of these beings spread out in these stasis chambers. And mostly what has happened is the Cabal has located these stasis chambers, awakened the giants, and then moved them to prisons inside bases.

David: Well, I thought you said before that when people tried to access these stasis chambers that they would get stuck, and they wouldn’t be able to move through. There was like a gravitational field.

So how could the Cabal actually awaken anyone? I thought nobody could get in there.

Corey: Well, they CAN’T get in, but they have harmonic ways of turning off and controlling that technology.

David: Oh, really? Interesting.

Corey: They found enough of them, broken and working . . . They know how they work very well. They know the mechanics of them.

These sanctuaries . . . The people had survived physically, but mentally, they were completely checked out, these giants.

He said, surprisingly, he was able to relate with them and had more headway with them before he went through his transformation, because they were so psychologically messed up and traumatized that he can’t reason with them hardly.

Now – and he was telling me this as he was in the chair – he said, now, after he’s gone through this transformation from what he was before, that they just will not relate with him at all.

David: So let me see if I got this. They go to sleep. They think they’re going to wake up and be kings over their people, 130 of these you said, but they wake up and now they’re prisoners.

So that’s got to be very jarring for them, I would think.

Corey: Yes.

David: Do they experience it just like they knitted together two points in time, or do they feel like they were gone for a really long time?

Corey: The ones that were in stasis, it’s just like they went to sleep and woke up.

David: Wow! So this sudden loss of power you’re saying has caused them to be very, very distraught.

Corey: Well, those are the ones that were in stasis. The ones that were living generation to generation in these ecosystems deep in the Earth, they were the ones that were the most traumatized.

David: Oh.

Corey: Gonzales said that he was just unable to relate with them. He kept saying, “We can help you. We can bring you these healing technologies.”

They’re like, “No! First, you bring us our royal families and others” who are in, basically, prison, Cabal prisons, “then we will accept the healing”.

You know, that makes no sense whatsoever, but they are just gone up there.

David: The people that are living inside the Earth that have been there the whole time, do they have any awareness of what our civilization is like on the surface, or are they so cut off that they really have no idea who we are when we would come in and capture them, basically?

Corey: Most of them are cut off, but some of them would do recon missions up to the surface from time to time and have encounters with usually human military.

David: Hm.

Corey: So they had an idea of how out of control they were now.

David: Did they have any communications systems that allowed them to be able to talk to different groups in different areas?

Corey: I was told that they were utilizing some ancient technology below ground that allowed them to communicate here and there.

But Gonzales was really frustrated. He kind of got a twinkle in his eye when he told me that these giants were not relating with him anymore after his change.

And he looked at me, and he said, “How would you like to go down there?”

And I was like, “Ah, not my job, buddy. That’s your job.”

David: Go down to where these giants are?

Corey: Right. He said, “Come on, this would not be the first time you had a meeting with someone that wanted to eat you.”

David: Where were these sites? Did you get any specific information about where were these underground sites that they had relocated to?

Corey: Yeah. It was in the Anshar area. As a matter of fact, Gonzales found out about them because the Anshar were being secretive and going off into this cavern area where there was a solid wall they were walking through, and he found a way, after weeks, to scurry around and find a little hole that he could peek through to see where they were going to.

He saw the Anshar meeting with red-haired giants that were just moaning and crying and sounded horrible.

It was soon after that, that he was, I guess, read in and started to meet with them before the Anshar kicked him out.

David: So we are essentially out of time for this episode, but I’m interested just to get your speculation as to how these giants fit into the overall picture of Ascension and us transforming into beings like the Anshar.

What do you think is the reason why you’re being shown this stuff?

Corey: The reason I think it’s occurring is that these beings, even though they’re created and they did evil things, karmically we’re all connected.

And just like the Blue Avians were wanting to move to the next octave, but they couldn’t because we were acting like a parachute, because they had karmic ties to us, that’s kind of the same thing going on with all these other beings.

We all kind of lift each other up and move together, or no one does.

David: At some point, you and Gonzales must have finished this conversation about the giants. So what happened next?

Corey: Aree and her sister visited with Gonzales and I for a while. And some of the Anshar gathered around us . . . were keeping a little bit more distance from Gonzales than they were from me at this point.

At this point, Aree’s sister said, “It’s time for us to prepare for meeting the new Guardians. And everyone was very excited.

So we started winding down the conversation. Some of the elders invited me to come back and stay for a longer period of time . . . later, months from now.

David: What did they call you when this was going on?

Corey: They called me the Hanush.

David: Really?

Corey: Yes.

David: Okay.

Corey: Everyone kind of got together in the commons area to say goodbye.

And we said “Goodbye”. We followed the same route back to get onto the Anshar craft on top of the domed building, and then we flew out of the anomaly.

David: Hm. Did anything else happen before you actually went home?

Corey: Yes. I didn’t actually get to go home . . .

David: Oh!

Corey: . . . still. We landed the Anshar bus craft, walked back into the temple complex, and, again, there were even more lines of people heading into the tunnel system that led back to where the cleansing room is that I described before.

Aree and her sister walked me and Gonzales past the line. We walked past everyone, walked up to the front, and we did the cleansing ceremony.


I folded my clothes, and I was going to put them next to Gonzales’s on this pedestal that was in a half moon, semi-circle configuration in that room, in the cleansing room, but Aree had a satchel over her shoulder, a light brown satchel, and she opened it up and held it out for me and indicated that I should put my clothes in there.

I was looking around, and I saw representatives from all seven of the Inner Earth groups that I had met the first time I was there.

David: Now, did they wear the same kind of amulets as when you first saw them?

Corey: Yes. They were wearing the amulets and white tunics.

David: Interesting. Well, that’s all the time we have in this episode. I want to thank you, Corey. It’s very fascinating information. And I want to thank you for watching.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode.


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David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here with our special guest, Emery Smith.

Emery, thank you for being here.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Appreciate it.

David: In our previous episode, we talked a little about how military bases are being built over extraterrestrial bases or crashed craft. And we had started to talk a little bit about what you may know regarding Antarctica.

So just to get more specific with you, according to Pete Peterson, operations in Antarctica have been ongoing for quite some time.

He was aware of it being back to at least the 1950s. And he said that it is a truly vast operation that’s being conducted down there.

So could you speak a little bit more about what you know of what’s going on in Antarctica?

Emery: I have recently met with four of the scientists that were part of that expedition, well, many expeditions in the past few years – in Costa Rica recently.

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And what was interesting is there’s also another craft that is part of some of the craft that’s down THERE [Antarctica] in a cave down near Costa Rica, I’ll say.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: And so this group was asking me to come with them to Antarctica to check it out on another expedition, which I refrained to go because all newbies don’t return.

David: Really?

Emery: So that’s how dangerous it is.

David: Hm!

Emery: And any people that go down there to do documentaries or try to get with people to take them down there usually end up pretty much not coming back.

David: Wow!

Emery: So right now, if you don’t have a specific, really good classification, you’re not going down there.

So that does leave it open to satellites, however, and special drones that we have access to to find out more information.

Different organizations are funding this, private organizations, because the people want to know.

And so this information was given to me strictly from the four scientists that actually came from working there for two years, which they do have the access to get back down in there to do what they do, which is basically . . . Well, I was talking about mapping and measuring of the melting ice and how much time they have before other things are exposed, which lead to the exposure of the underground city that’s there that has been there for a very long time, apparently.

David: Are you familiar with there being any plan to reveal ancient ruins under the ice in Antarctica, but not spacecraft at first or anything more modern, as part of a gradual disclosure agenda?

Emery: They already started that. So they’re saying there’s something down there, a big void, just like they did in Egypt now. There’s a big void underneath the pyramids there.

We have a very, very large city that’s there.

David: In Egypt?

Emery: In Egypt, under the pyramids, about a mile high dome.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes, it’s very large.

So this is the same thing that’s going on in Antarctica.

So they’re slowly saying, “Wow, through satellite imagery with special ground-penetrating radar, certain scientists from . . .”, which have nothing to do with trying to find bases, by the way – more like trying to find oil reservoirs and gold – have stumbled upon these giant voids. So you’re going to start hearing about this.

These voids are the ancient cities. You know, these are the ones that have been here for a very long time. This is right up your alley with all the stuff that you talk about.

And there has been great camera footage taken from an archaeologist that we know. And we have seen this footage. And it is compelling because the camera they snake down under the pyramid to see this, when it first was discovered, which I cannot disclose, was just fascinating.

David: Hm!

Emery: So the same thing is going on in Antarctica now is: how are we going to disclose this and clean up all the artifacts down there, which will really mess up the story of how we got here . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . kind of like Mars and the Moon and everything else. And it’s right here on this planet.

David: All of a sudden in the media, we hear this report that neutrinos were used to discover a very large new chamber in the Great Pyramid above the Grand Gallery, which is the big hallway with the tall . . .

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Emery: That’s right.

David: And they’re kind of saying it might be on a diagonal with the Grand Gallery, . . .

Emery: Correct.

David: . . . but it’s a little higher.

Emery: Right.

David: And that’s a very large, previously undisclosed space.

Emery: I’ve heard about that.

David: Now, with the technology you’re reporting, it would appear that they would have known about this for a long time.

Emery: Oh, they’ve known about it for a very long time.

David: Have people been into that room that you know of?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. And that’s what the Alliance needs to decide is: what do we release and how slow do we release it? So there’s a gradual scientific, huge, worldwide, scientific investigation of these tablets or this or that or whatnot, because it doesn’t match what’s going on or what we’ve been taught here.

And that’s going to be the hard thing for people to grasp because of the belief systems that we all have.

David: Do you think that there might be a way . . .I mean, they don’t want to tear up the pyramid, right? They’re very concerned about antiquities preservation. But now we’re talking about a massive, massive chamber inside the pyramid openly discussed in mainstream media.

Emery: Right.

David: So is there a way into that room already? Do we know what’s in that room?

Emery: I’m 80% sure they’ve already been in that room from the bottom up. There are tunnels that they have already dug under into this city, so it’s already been . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: They’re learning what happened. You know, they’re trying to learn the texts, learn all the symbols, and what’s it all mean?

And so it’s a huge undertaking on the private side of whoever is running that contract job. I can tell you that much.

David: Just for the sake of people’s curiosity, what might be some of the most surprising things that we would learn?

Like, what would we actually see if we ever get to see the footage of this room? What would be the most surprising thing we would discover?

Emery: Well, you’re going to discover a lot of literature and tablets, and also artifacts that are not from on Earth – not of Earth-origin technology – which most of it has been removed.

David: Wow!

Emery: Whether they want to say it was found with the site or not, it will be a spectable because it has to do with someone already being there trying to do the same thing we were doing about a higher, advanced civilization, and they left some things behind.

So there’s special scientists in the world who grab these devices, and they can figure out what the devices were used for. That’s what their job is to do.

And they’re really interesting people, and they’re responsible. They’re the unseen heroes you hear about.

But a lot of the information that they get is usually used to give to these private corporations to be used for bad because it’s so amazing. Why give it to us to help us cure cancer or be able to talk to anyone in the universe?

David: I want to bring something up with you that I think is directly relevant, and that is an insider that Pete Peterson has hoped to get me in touch with – it hasn’t actually happened yet – but this person was involved in the excavation of a strange sort of metallic alloy sarcophagus from this same Giza Plateau area. And I believe he said it was underground.

And they removed the sarcophagus, and they had it . . . They were trying to figure out how to get it open, and they couldn’t open it with tools.

And apparently on the ship – they were transporting it on a U.S. military ship of some kind – someone telepathically interfaced with this sarcophagus, and they could read the inscriptions. Even though originally it was a different language, they could read the language.

And then they had to sing a certain note or phrase. I can’t remember which it was . . .

Emery: A harmonic, yeah.

David: And you put your hands out like this and it opened.

And then what they found inside were these various kind of hand-held tools. And some of the tools, apparently, would give you holographic reconstructions of historical events that happened during the time of the people that had this thing.

Emery: Sure. Oh, yes.

David: And that sarcophagus alone is just of inestimable value. Have you ever heard any stories like that?

Emery: Yes, I have heard of very similar stories of these sarcophagi and coffins and tubes that are made of some unknown metal but they’re seamless.

David: Wow!

Emery: And they can only be opened, as far as I knew, by lineage, actually, and harmonic. So that’s interesting you said that, because it actually helps me understand some things now put together that I’ve been debriefed on.

And I’ve seen some of these vats, actually.

David: What about this idea of an object that you might be able to hold in your hand, and then you can kind of talk to it with your mind . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . and it will show you, like, a library?

Emery: Absolutely. It’s a consciousness-assisted technology that you have to hold and use your consciousness. You know, you have to think about it, and then whatever, however it operates – however, the operator knows how to operate it.

Or usually, it just automatically will turn on. You know, it’s like having an iPhone without a passcode on it. Automatically anyone can use it.

But some of these devices, these consciousness-assisted technologies, are all lineage-related or frequency-related, so that you have to be of the right ancient lineage to hold that one little frequency for this thing to work.

David: A genetic marker in your DNA, do you think?

Emery: Yes. Yes.

David: Wow! Really?

Emery: Yeah.

David: When we had Pete Peterson here last time, he gave us some extremely fascinating information about very, very long – many, many miles long – perfectly carved tunnels in South America, like, underneath the Nazca Lines.

And he talked about what appeared to have been a vast extraterrestrial city down there. And, of course, with our show on Gaia, “Unearthing Nazca”, Pete is claiming that the bodies we had on that show were from this city.

So I’m curious if you’ve heard about those tunnels in Meso- and South America, and any information you might have on that.

Emery: Yes. My scientist sources also have invited me down there to analyze the tunnels, which have a lot of craft in them, which have . . . The tunnels actually have beings frozen in time sticking out of the walls of these things.

David: Have you ever heard the term “stasis beings”?

Emery: Yes. I mean, I don’t personally believe these beings that come from Gaia are from that site.

David: Okay.

Emery: But that’s my own opinion. And I have not been asked to analyze these beings yet.

David: Okay. So you’re saying that there are . . . This is totally amazing, Emery. I’m just going to be honest with you. And the reason why is that I got another briefing from Pete. I haven’t said a word about it to anyone.

I’m going to do it for the first time right now, okay?

And the briefing was that, because Gaia did “Unearthing Nazca”, the show, that our Alliance people have gotten a lot more interested in that area again, and that apparently the Mexican government . . . We have the Peruvian government . . . We have different governments in Meso- and South America, apparently involved in this.

And apparently, very recently, we took custody of these five different craft, and he said that they are so advanced that we’ve got whole teams of people . . . He estimated 2,000~3,000 people are working on these craft now. But it’s so advanced we have no idea how to get into it or what the heck is going on.

So I’m curious about your thoughts on that.

Emery: Yeah, I agree with that. But when you say “we”, who are you referring to who took over the five craft?

David: I guess it would be . . .

Emery: The Alliance or . . .

David: DIA military-industrial complex, what we would call MIC Secret Space Program folk.

Emery: Okay. That I can confirm 100%. They are now in control of all the tunnels and all the ships and all the bodies and all the technology, . .

David: Really?

Emery: . . . which has recently just happened.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. And it’s now very difficult to get in there, but I’m still deciding whether to go or not because it’s just a matter of if they invite me again to go down there and decipher some of the ships and craft and some of the extraterrestrials that they found, and of course, the technology.

But yes, there is a large amount of these beings and the craft down there.

David: Can you confirm anything about Pete’s testimony regarding that the craft are so advanced that we have no idea what to do with them yet?

Emery: Yes, I can absolutely concur with that, because the group would never have called me to go down there and check this out, number one, because if they knew how to do it and they’re scientists and know how to do it, they wouldn’t be calling me to ask me to come on board clandestinely, which I can talk about freely. But that’s exactly what happened.

David: Wow!

Emery: I mean, I haven’t seen his show, by the way, so I didn’t know any of this.

David: Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about what we did on “Unearthing Nazca”, because I didn’t even know you knew anything about this. It’s really amazing.

We’ve had X-rays taken of these bodies, and it does not in any way even possibly appear to be a hoax.

The genetic testing shows that it’s over 1,500 years old or more in some cases. It appears to be genuine genetic tissue that’s been preserved in diatomaceous earth.

They have three fingers and three toes instead of five, like we do. It definitely looks like this is an authentic specimen of some kind.

So I’m curious about your thoughts. Have you seen “Unearthing Nazca”?

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Emery: No, I’ve seen just the small briefing that came out with those two mummies, and just the briefing that came out over the world and through Gaia.

David: Okay.

Emery: And that’s all I read. And you know, my first question as a scientist is, who tested it? Where was it tested? How did you retrieve it? How did you get it over the border? Do you mind if I test it at multiple facilities of my choice, which you are not allowed to know?

And, you know, all these questions, because it’s a very interesting story. And I’m not saying yes or no, because I don’t know because I was not a part of that project.

David: Right.

Emery: So I can’t judge it. Since you say these things, I mean, of course, I’m very close with you. I believe you, but as a scientist, I also have to ask many other questions and actually have to examine the bodies because I don’t believe there’s too many other people out there coming forward like myself that would probably go do that and give an expert opinion and write something up.

David: Sure.

Emery: I mean, I’m right now being published in Stanford University for the Atacama being coming forward with that with Dr. Garry Nolan.

So you’ll see that white paper with my name on it, which kind of gives me some credit about my background.

So, you know, I can’t answer that.

Just by looking at some pictures, I can’t say yes or no without being part of the project and giving my own opinion of what they are and where they came from, and also the type of DNA it is.

What was the DNA percentages?

David: There apparently is a DNA test being conducted in Russia right now with some of the finest DNA testing they have. The results have not yet come in yet. It apparently takes a long time.

But we did have Peruvian scientists who did a lot of work down there.

We also have M. K. Jesse, who is a radiologist right here in Boulder, who has surveyed the X-rays and has said that this definitely appears to be a biological being. It does not appear to be anything conventional human.

Emery: Right. And the carbon dating or whatever they use to measure the dating . . .

David: Carbon dating has been confirmed, and it’s all early AD – very early AD.

Emery: Interesting.

David: So would you be interested? I mean, I’m not able to ask you this on behalf . . .

Emery: Yeah, I would . . .

David: Would you be interested in doing that if you were invited?

Emery: Yeah, I would entertain that, of course. Yeah, I would be helpful in any way I can to help approve or disapprove [disprove] these beings.

David: And you told me before that apparently the Atacama humanoid that you had in “Sirius” is not the only one. Could you tell us a little more about that?

Emery: Yeah, I can. There is another being down in that location that has been discovered that is very similar to this being.

And we are now trying to work something out so we could get this being.

If we can get this being, we can get the DNA from both beings and see if they match and see if it is a new subspecies or not.

But the data that we’re printing right now at Stanford is – I’m not going to spill it because I can’t talk about it – is going to talk about that exact thing.

So you guys are going to have to wait for that white paper to come out in a couple of weeks, and then we’ll go from there. But I’m very interested in that being, too. I want to immediately grab this being, put it in a safe place, and be able to run multiple tests on it and see what happens and go from there.

It’s a speculation right now, so we can’t say anything until we actually have the DNA in our hands.

As you know, as I went over to Barcelona with Greer and Dr. Bravo to obtain the first one and bring back that DNA to Stanford for Dr. Garry Nolan to test, one of the world’s leading geneticists.

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So there’s a lot to do, because you have to have, I think, in the future, multiple testing sites, and larger teams involved in organizations. So it’s just not one foundation doing all the work.

And it should be a joint collective thing. Most projects like this should be collective and not just one overseer of that. I think it’s harder to manipulate things when there’s multiple people involved instead of one overseer.

David: One of the things that you carry with you is something that hardly anyone has ever seen. You seem to always have it with you.

The only other time this was ever shown was on stage at Contact in the Desert. You handed it to me when I was doing a panel. It was a sensation for the audience.

Emery: Ah, right.

David: So could you hold up what it is that you have and tell us about this?

Emery: So this . . . After the team and I went over there to Barcelona . . . This is the Ata being from Chile, from the Atacama Desert.

And what we did was we wanted to make sure that we not only have the DNA, but let’s run every possible test. Let’s get CAT scans, MRIs, X-rays, as much as we can for the scientific community to look at this because the private organization that has it, who’s been very generous and needs lots of help, would like to do more testing and do more things.

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And I was able, by working on some other secret projects at the time . . . We can 3D render organs and things. We can also 3D render pretty much any CAT scan into any material.

So we can shoot your brain, CAT scan your brain, and I can enter it into the computer, and I can print your brain out in any material I want.

David: Wow!

Emery: Isn’t that cool?

So that way, before I operate on you, I can make sure where all your blood vessels are, and I can actually do . . .

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: . . . yeah. So I can say that now because it’s already out; it’s been disclosed.

David: Right.

Emery: So I thought, “Hey, why don’t I take a CAT scan of this being and put it into the computer and make an exact replica, duplicate, cell-by-cell,” into this just polycarbonate I used, because it was already too expensive to do anything else?

David: Here, let me see it.

Emery: And what happened is: we printed it and this is what came out, this polycarbonate exact being.

David: So one of the things that I notice right away, which people probably notice, is that, like, the head is kind of sliced off.

Emery: Yeah. When we made the program, we made sure that part was open so people could see inside and see the brain lobes, and, you know, there was different things. You know, I could print just with the chest open so you can see some of the lungs and different things that were in there.

But just to have something that was durable that I wanted to last a long time, and something that you could see the volume of. Of course, the skull was the most amazing thing: three times the size of our skull.

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David: Yes.

Emery: From chin to top, that’d be like . . . it’s the same length as his torso from the sternal notch to the umbilicus. We call the belly button, umbilicus. So, you know, it’s three times . . . the same size as that.

That would be like your head, one, two, three, three times your own size.

David: Wow!

Emery: So, very interesting.

The story on this being, if you want me to go into, is . . .

David: Yeah, sure.

Emery: . . . which I was not part of the collection site or anything like that in the early years, but I did read a briefing that matches that of where this craft has crashed. And it was shot down some time ago. I don’t know the exact time.

And it was an egg-shaped craft, and there were . . . about the size of a Volkswagen van.

David: Hm! The size of the egg?

Emery: Yeah, the size of the egg. There were five occupants. And when the army got there, the military – not ours, but theirs – got there, two of them were already dead, the adults. They were 22 inches high.

And then there were three trying to get away. And they shot one, and two they lost into the jungle, or into the desert, or whatever, which the story goes they did wind up in a village.

And the villagers apparently saw these little beings, and they clubbed them and wrapped them in cloth, in red cloth, and went to . . .

David: Why would they club them?

Emery: Well, I’m going to tell you. I’ll tell you why I think they did. Because after they wrapped it in red cloth, they took it to the front of the church doorsteps, and they wrote “El Diablo”, and they laid it there.

David: The devil.

Emery: Yeah, the devil. So how unfortunate.

David: You know, the skull . . . This is one of the things that I always wondered about is: there’s this crack in the plate. Like there’s these two plates, and this part here on the left looks like it sticks up in ridges over the part on the right.

So that’s not the regular physiology. This is because its head was crushed?

Emery: No, it did have that kind of a point there after we looked at that in different computer programs, but it is offset because of the smashed skull.

David: Right. Okay.

Emery: And the hole in the back of the head, so you know, was also something that was done prior to myself and the team actually doing the autopsy.

I did use that hole, though, that was made by another scientist before me many years ago, to gather the brain material, some of the brain matter, and, of course, some of the layers of the brain.

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And some of the bone marrow, of course, was what we’re really after. So we took some of that from the rib cage and also from the humerus of the arm of the being.

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So we had a lot of samples. We had a lot of good samples. And we took those samples back.

David: Now, it is very interesting, something that I wish we could have gotten into “Sirius”.

Emery: Right.

David: I wanted to see us go into the fact that there is a case in Russia of a little being called Alyoshenka.

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And this being does have the 22-inch height that you’re saying is like the adults, but the dried body of it is basically identical. It is essentially identical to what this looks like.

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And the story there was that the being somehow was found by a woman who had mental illness. And she was feeding it candy and milk for a while, but it was dying.

And she tried to bring it to the hospital in Russia, and after it was brought to the hospital, it died. When its body dried out, it dried out the same way that this Atacama being did.

And then, unfortunately, the story goes that the Japanese were going to buy it for a very large sum of money to study it, and then it mysteriously disappears.

So what do you think Alyoshenka is?

Emery: Yeah. It’s hard to tell. Like I said, I don’t know the story. I know a little bit about the story. I did read a little bit about that briefing.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And then like with anything, even with this being, you have to understand this is not something that I saw actually inside where I was at.

This was after I got out that I was able to handle this. And I just associated this briefing with this accident at this exact place, so to make that clear.

David: Okay.

Emery: And don’t forget, things can be made inside for disinformation campaigns as well. And beings can be grown and these crashes can be made to disinform scientists around the world that are not part of the projects.

And some that leave the projects, they want them disinformed.

So you have to be very delicate about talking about DNAs and beings, and where they come from and the stories behind them, because there’s very few people out there that actually know from start to finish: all right, this went to this to this to this.

You know, I’m being a private investigator saying, “Well, this is what I read. This is what happened. Then later on we finally got it. And then we did this, and it matches everything. There’s another one; matches the same exact report.” You know, all these different things.

So that I would not . . . I would just say I think it’s a similar . . . I think it’s part of the same phenotype of species.

Without looking at the DNA and actually matching the two, which would be the most amazing thing . . .

The fact that it went missing, 100% – obviously, red flag. Red flag, red flag.

Any time anything goes missing or someone gets hurt or killed, you know, it’s a red flag.

David: Do you think there’s any relationship between this story of the church with the being in paper labeled “El Diablo” and the corpse that ended up in the movie “Sirius”, or are those two separate things?

Emery: You’re talking about the Ata? The Ata?

David: Yeah.

Emery: No, that’s the Ata.

David: Oh, that is?

Emery: That is the Ata.

David: So did the church hold onto it all that time?

Emery: Yes. The church held onto it.

David: Really?

Emery: The priest held onto it many, many years. He knew it was very, very important. And then he made a deal with someone.

I know the U.S. government already had samples of this somehow. So in the exchange somewhere, there was this civilian person, the priest, who had access to it. And then a private organization went down there and purchased the being from him, and now it’s in an underground facility near Barcelona being studied.

And many new papers are coming out. I know they’re printing so much stuff.

My own opinion, I think they got a little bit infiltrated and maybe paid off because of some of the things that are being said now over from their people in Europe.

But, you know, like I said, we don’t know. It’s all speculation, because anything can be made to be disinformed.

David: “Sirius” itself kind of ends on a down, because we’re talking to Theodore Lockman; we’re talking to Garry Nolan. The whole movie establishes that this is a credible non-human – normal human, at least – thing.

And then at the end, it kind of seems like the film says, “Oh, well, it’s not really that big of a deal”. It’s very strange.

Emery: That’s very strange, yeah. Why is that? The biggest story in the world and no one wants to hear about it.

So, yeah, I would say, “Hm”. That’s all I can say about that.

David: Right. So another thing that I find fascinating is “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” in, I don’t know, 1940s, 1950s, somewhere thereabouts, had this thing called “AttaBoy”.

18 Attaboy

And it’s just like the Atacama humanoid – same size.

19 Attaboy 2

The only real difference is that the head is a little more bulbous in this way [round] . . .

Emery: I saw that, yeah.

David: . . . as opposed to the way the other one looks.

Emery: Yeah, I saw that one.

David: It’s so similar in many other ways. Do you think that’s from the same species or a similar species?

Emery: No, I don’t believe so. No. No. Yeah, there’s too many differences.

I did look at that at one time closely. So I don’t believe it’s from the same lineage or phenotype at all.

David: But do you think it might possibly be extraterrestrial also in its own way?

Emery: Without actually making a . . . bringing the proper test, I couldn’t speculate.

David: Right.

Emery: It wouldn’t be fair.

David: So another thing was these edifices that the people on Easter Island wore on a necklace.

20 Necklace Edifice From Easter Island

Emery: Right, yeah.

21 Necklace Edifice From Easter Island 2

David: And when you look at the necklace, when you look at the body of this thing, it looks exactly like what you autopsied in “Sirius”.

22 Ata Being 4

The only difference is that the face is kind of a stylized human face. It’s got these large, round eyes, large kind of nose and mouth.

23 Closeup Of The Head Of The Neclace Edifice

So it is kind of an exaggerated human face with large eyes.

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David: That part looks wrong. But the body is absolutely dead-on.

24 Closeup Of The Body Of The Necklace Edifice

And those Easter Island people are saying that these were the givers of wisdom and knowledge.

Emery: Right. I think there’s a connection.

David: What do you think is going on?

Emery: I do think there is a connection with that. Like I said, I don’t know enough about their history. I just know, from learning from you about that story and seeing some of these pictures a while back, that there is correlation, for the body, that is.

And whether the bodies are replicas or they’re the actual bodies that were mummified, you know, swelling happens during mummification sometimes, depending on where it’s buried and what it’s buried in.

And things can change and misform different body parts, especially with the skeleton, into different . . .

David: Right.

Emery: Just like fossils, you know, if they’re in certain minerals, when they form over time, they’ll take on a different color and shape.

So it’s a very interesting thing when you look at mummies and how they’re buried, where they’re buried, the temperature, the humidity, and then all these other factors that fall into place. And the same thing happens with these beings.

So I can see why you’re asking these questions, because they are similar in many ways, but they’re also . . . There’s differences. And without actually having all three of them right there, for me to say.

But I do agree with you that the bodies are very similar.

David: All right. Well, I want to thank you. This has been very fascinating, and we will have more in store.

Emery: Excellent.

David: So thanks for being here.

Emery: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

David: And thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with our special guest, Emery Smith.