Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode.

And in this episode, we’re getting into a long-awaited update about several key issues that are happening right now.

So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So, Corey, we’ve described how the Anshar have been worried about our future. And a lot of this concern seems to have coordinated with the timing of this eclipse.

What were you told about the eclipse exactly from the Anshar and how it relates to what’s going on now?

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Corey: The eclipse was an energetic alignment that was going to enhance our co-creative consciousness’ ability to make thoughts into real things, supposedly.

What she said was that a . . . and this was in concurrence with what Tier-Eir had stated about doing mass meditations. We had gotten together with a few other people and put together a mass meditation on the day of the eclipse, and the Anshar were very happy about that.

And they stated that they were going to participate in it as well, and that a lot of the contact that people were going to receive was going to be initiated then. But it was very interesting.

During the eclipse, I was standing out looking through a filter at the eclipse. And everyone was meditating and putting out good intent.

And I was in the middle of doing that when, through the filter, I saw a little flash to the bottom left of the Sun.

And I was just about to say something about it when the lady next to me came up excited and showed me her phone.

“Look what I got! Look what I got!”

And just in the exact spot I saw the flash was a triangular craft. And we caught it . . . We got a photo of it.

David: Very cool.

2 Photo Of Triangular Craft During Eclipse

Corey: And it was very interesting that that occurred during the time when I was putting out intent for humanity to receive assistance.

3 Closeup Of Photo Of Craft Taken During Eclipse

David: Now you brushed on something very briefly that I think we need to cover more, and that is this concept of contact.

What was the nature of this contact you were informed about by the Anshar that would be happening, or that they were trying to make happen?

Corey: Well, they stated that contact in the beginning would start out with people having dreams.

David: What contact would take place?

Corey: Contact between the Anshar and people on the planet.

David: Okay.

Corey: They would begin to have dreams that would slowly acclimate them to finally having an in-person meeting with the Anshar.

So I was expecting things like that to occur during the eclipse.

What I didn’t realize is that a lot of the people that were participating were getting these downloads, just information rushing down into their consciousness, giving them ideas about how to use their talents, about how to solve issues in their lives.

And I was expecting something a little bit more dramatic.

Soon after I got home from this event, I did have a meeting with Ka’Aree, where I asked her more about this.

David: So these contacts start out, as you said, with dreams and possibly telepathic things. Where does it go from there?

Corey: Well, it actually starts a little bit differently.

After I got home, I was exhausted . . .

David: Home from where?

Corey: . . . from the Eclipse of Disclosure at Mt. Shasta.

David: Okay.

Corey: I’m laying in bed, and the next thing I know, I’m in that exact same greeting area that . . . the first time I had met the Anshar. And I’m laying on my back.

But this time, there’s a thick bed mat that – it was pretty interesting; I don’t want to go into detail on that – and then a round head roll that was behind my neck.

And immediately, I looked up, and I saw Ka’Aree and two others standing. And she just briskly asked me to get up, and we walked back to that original meeting room where she had offered me the Elixir of Isis.

4 Ka Aree In Mind Meld

She was kind of frazzled or in a hurry.

She brought me back to discuss the eclipse and the mass meditation. And she was stating that it was a very big success, that . . .

David: Oh, great!

Corey: Yes, that a lot of people that partook in it received massive downloads, only a little bit that they were conscious of, that was going to help them prepare themselves for contact.

And I told her at that point that I appreciated seeing the UFO in the sky, but I was expecting something a little bit more dramatic to occur.

And she told me that I had jumped to a lot of conclusions, that there is a very specific way that the benevolent beings have to approach humanity.

And I thought it was interesting.

She said that they see us on a little bit more of a level than just our physical personal egos. They see us on a multidimensional kind of level.

And before they can come and introduce theirselves to us, they first have to approach our higher selves.

5 Anshar Greeting Higher Self

And our higher selves determines whether we get contact, what type of contact we will get, or what we need before contact – what we need information-wise to prepare ourselves.

So it’s not the case that I thought that these beings just come to us because we have the right vibration or they think we’re ready.

They come to us because our higher selves have approved it . . . have approved that contact.

David: Now, you said a while ago that, I believe, it was Tier-Eir had told you that as we get closer to the solar flash, people would start seeing ghosts of some form.

Corey: Yes, he said as the energies peak – reach their peak – that you will know this because all across the world, people will start describing stories of meeting family members that have died and having conversations with family members who have passed on.

David: So do you think that perhaps these Anshar visitations could also come in the form of that, as they say contact is going to unfold over time?

Corey: What it sounded like is that they approach our higher self. Our higher self and them come to an agreement about what type of contact our egos will receive.

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If our egos are not ready for one-on-one contact, our higher self will converse with the being – the Anshar, in this case – and say, “This is what they need to be prepped, . . . to prep for that type of communication.”

And they’ll receive the information they need in the form of a download – an information download.

David: It’s been pretty stunning to me to see how soon after the eclipse we’ve had massive hurricanes. Do you think that is related to this eclipse and what they told you was going on?

Corey: I was shown basically a vision of what is occurring. And the Blue Spheres are almost gone. They’re almost completely translucent and gone.

And we’re receiving higher and higher doses of this cosmic energy. Our planet and solar system are bathed in this energy right now.

The image I was shown was of the Earth spinning, rotating within that energy, and it was like a dynamo. And the energy was feeding into the Earth through the poles.

And in the vision, it was causing massive, high-energetic storms like what we’re seeing and earthquakes.

David: So some people have tried to say that these are HAARPicanes, that they’re not natural phenomena, that the Cabal is doing this to try to collapse the American economy. What are your thoughts on that?

Corey: These storms are not created by these technologies, but they are being steered. They have satellite systems that shoot, I think, what they call masers – microwave lasers, focused microwave beams – into the ocean, close to the storm to warm up the water. And that causes the storm to go towards the warmth, and they can lead the storms where they want, to a degree.

David: Do you think that the American economy can survive disasters of this scope?

Corey: It’s going to affect the economies, but more so, it is a distraction. It’s [a distraction] to all of these groups that are working on trying to set up arrests and courts to hear these cases. The military is heavily involved in this.

If you have all of these major events occurring – weather events – then the military has to be pulled over to assist.

David: Wow!

Corey: So it’s – t part of it, at least – to be a misdirect.

David: Why do you think North Korea has been acting so crazy lately with this nuclear threat that they’re making?

Corey: Well, North Korea is . . . I mean, it’s fairly well known that the Cabal has a certain amount of control in that country, although it appears that we don’t. So they are a perfect distraction tool.

Now, another theory that I’ve heard was that North Korea would become such a threat that we would have to use new exotic weapons platforms that we have never disclosed to the public. But the only way we could use them would be to disclose them to the public.

And that, to me, sounds like a perfect opportunity to disclose triangular craft that are used to go down and try to neutralize North Korea before they fire all of their ordinance into Seoul.

David: Pete Peterson has been saying a lot lately that what he kind of affectionately calls “quadcopters” – though these are full size and piloted – that the military is very close to unveiling these.

Corey: That’s exactly the intel I’d been given. And if you remember on the show here, maybe six months ago, I was reporting that the Air Force Secret Space Program, they were going to begin to “accidentally” let us see a lot more of their triangular craft.

I reported that we would start seeing reports of triangular craft.

And indeed, recently over an Air Force base in Tampa, on two separate occasions, people have been taking photos of triangular craft. And I believe we have an image of that.

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David: When you were meeting with Ka’Aree, and she’s telling you about . . . that contact is going to develop, did you get a sense . . . I know we’re talking about higher-self handshakes and so forth. Did you get a sense that eventually people like those watching this show might actually have the type of in-person experience like you’ve been having with them?

Corey: Absolutely. The Anshar basically let me know that the visitations that I’m having, it’ll become commonplace, and that I will, like I want to, slowly kind of drift off into the background because everyone else, or so many other people, are going to be having these one-on-one experiences.

David: Do you think there would be a way at some point to be able to validate who is actually having real experiences, as opposed to who’s just trying to jump into the spotlight and gain some attention?

Corey: I think at that point it won’t matter.

David: Why wouldn’t it matter?

Corey: So many people will be having open contact that the attention-seekers that are lying, . . . it’ll be pretty obvious who it is. And it just really will be of no consequence to everyone else who is receiving contact.

David: Do you think that if we have more catastrophes take place like these hurricanes, and everybody’s having to go through that, that that in some way opens up more of the universal law for the Anshar to do these type of contacts?

Corey: I don’t know about that, but when I spoke last to Tier-Eir, when he was showing me all of these things, I was a little perplexed about why these things were being allowed to occur.

And Tier-Eir stated that while these things are happening, it will be an opportunity for people to be Service-to-Others. And that’s the only real response I got on that. The Anshar did not go that in depth.

David: Now you’ve had another meeting with Ka’Aree much more recently that really has some fascinating new plot twists in it that actually caught me off guard. When you first told me, I was quite surprised.

Corey: This was the same meeting.

David: Oh, it was?

Corey: Yes.

David: Okay.

Corey: Once again, I had noticed that she was acting abnormal. She was a little bit stressed, and, like, preoccupied.

So she was behaving abnormally from the way she normally behaves, you know, real calm, serene. She seemed preoccupied.

And I asked her if the timeline was continuing to diverge from the timeline that they were sent here to steward. And she said, “Yes, that is indeed the case.”

And she said, “Things have developed quite far in the timeline” – divergence from their timeline.

David: And just to be clear, what you had said was that this negative timeline could involve a very dark future for humanity. Could you reiterate what that was?

Corey: Well, it was a very dark future for humanity, but the Anshar were concerned because if that timeline was diverged from, they would no longer exist.

David: If our positive timeline . . .

Corey: Right, was diverged from. Or, well, THE timeline that they were trying to manicure.

David: So she’s concerned, indicating that she’s worried whether that negative timeline might still take place.

Corey: Right. And I asked her, “Is this completely unheard of?”

And she said, “No.”

She said, “We have gone through this on several occasions during the changes of cycles,” that her people have had to take drastic measures during the cycles.

And I asked her what she was talking about, and she started walking me back to the area where I had first appeared, that radiated out into different hallways.

She took me out in there and immediately hung a right and went through another hallway. And we eventually ended up in an area that came out to where we could see where the giant city was that I described before.

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And we exited in a different area. We popped up from a different perspective.

And as soon as we looked into this huge, huge cavern, it was immediately obvious that everything had changed. None of the buildings were there anymore.

The rock pillars that went up to the roof of the cavern that had all of these dwellings cut out in them, those were still there. There were no lights.

9 Pillars In Anshar City

And there were little footprint areas where all of the buildings had been.

David: Really?

Corey: Yes. And then there was this weird, . . . this weird . . . It looked like time-space folding in on itself, kind of going into a cone.

10 Corey Ka Aree Looking At A Time Space Anomaly

And where the cone ended, it was, like, flailing around a little bit.

And I asked her what it was. And she stated that in times past, during the cycles, the Anshar have put their people in this time-anomaly bubble, . . .

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. . . and that this time-anomaly bubble is exactly the same as the anomaly-bubbles outside of Jupiter and Saturn where the Super Federation has these giant stations, where they meet.

David: Do you think that the Anshar dwellings are built to be modular, that it’s like a little craft . . .

Corey: They are.

David: . . . they can move around?

Corey: Yes.

David: It is.

Corey: Yeah. And what had happened is all of them had levitated and gone into the event horizon of that anomaly to where they would be protected from everything that’s occurring energetically.

David: Would that include that if the timeline shifted that they would still have a reality partition that they can live in?

Corey: Exactly.

David: Really?

Corey: They have their own little reality bubble.

David: Hm.

Corey: And in the conversation, she stated that . . . I learned a little bit more about the anomalies, how they work, which is very interesting.

We’re supposedly inside this protective barrier here in the solar system. And she’s saying that when we enter that anomaly, when we were going to those meetings, we were going to a time-space bubble that had been created that was outside of our reality, so to speak, and that there were entrances to it in, like, other galaxies. From other galaxies, beings were flying in to attend these meetings, but you have to go out the exact same way. You have to punch out the way you punched in.

David: Um-hmm.

Corey: They can’t come in and then go out another exit and end up in our galaxy.

David: Hm.

Corey: The majority of her people – that entire city – are inside that anomaly right now.

David: Well, this raises an interesting question, just really briefly. And that is, if these people are sitting in these chairs, and they’re telepathically communicating with us, apparently as, like guardian angels, and helping us meet the right people, and have telepathic nudges, and things like this, if they all took off, wouldn’t that dramatically undercut our angelic support, if you will, that they’ve been providing?

Corey: Well, what I was about to say is that all of the people that were dwelling in this city were now inside of this time anomaly, for the lack of a better word.

Everyone that was a part of the religious order, until the last minute, are remaining outside of that bubble and are focusing all of their time, all of their energy, on trying to influence the surface population in a positive way to help steer back towards their timeline.

David: So are you saying that it’s only the religious order that was doing this before anyway?

Corey: No.

David: Oh.

Corey: No. Many, many from their cities were joining in, but, yes, all of the religious order were taking part. But the Anshar were taking part and some of the subgroups that are with the Anshar were taking part.

David: Do you think that perhaps the presence of these giant spheres in our solar system could in some way help to provide back-up spiritually if these people are no longer able to serve in that function for us?

Corey: When they get to a point where they can no longer really be of service, they’re just going to enter that time anomaly and ride it out.

David: Well, but I’m thinking about what that means for us, as these people are kind of like our guardian angels. Would there be other assets that would still help us at that point?

Corey: Well, I think what we would have to realize is that most of this is on us. You know, it’s . . . Most of this is up to us. We can’t be looking to angelic beings to come and save us or to assist us.

We really need to focus on being the change ourselves.

David: And what would that look like? If they’re not helping us anymore, how would we steer the ship without them and get the outcome that we want?

Corey: The steering is going to be done by a very small number of people here. A very small number of people can affect the timeline.

And the people that they’re getting in contact with now, that they’re going to appear to, that they’re giving downloads to, to help them get to a point to where they’re ready for open contact, those people are the people that are going to be the feet on the ground of the co-creative consciousness army, I guess you could say.

David: So it’s like we’re going through our own graduation and stepping into a more active role than we’ve had before.

Corey: Right. As a part of that graduation, we have to become the masters.

David: Do you feel that there are going to be other events similar to this eclipse, where there will be yet additional sudden leaps forward?

Corey: Absolutely. I think what you’re talking about will be born from how people process these downloads they’ve received.

A lot of people have received a lot of similar downloads that are going to have them coming together.

One of the things that Tier-Eir stated was that in this mission that he’s given me that people were going to start just organically just migrating, that are people that are needed at the time.

And I kid you not, we’ll say, “We need a person that does this type of graphics or animation,” and usually within 24 to 48 hours, we’ll get an email, a person say, “I don’t know why, but I feel like I would like to volunteer or be a part of this project.”

And they have the exact skills that we need, that we were just talking about.

David: Hm.

Corey: And I think that what’s occurring is going to start occurring in the macro sense, that all of these people that received downloads are going to start receiving assistance and energy to help them feed and nurture the different projects that were given to them in these downloads.

David: I guess I had this view that we were just going to kind of coast right along up to the flash without anything really that disruptive happening, that it was just going to be this boring, business as usual, nothing really changes that much, and then – poof!

But what you’ve been saying they’re telling you lately strongly implies that even before the solar flash, there are going to be some very noticeable changes in how things are going. Could you explain that?

Corey: Yeah, and I’m glad you brought that up, because in the last update when we described it, I didn’t go deep enough. And a lot of people thought it just seemed like fear porn or something pulled out of “Revelations” out of the Bible.

But the way it was described to me is, Mika, a while back, had described what his planet had gone through. And his planet is mostly islands. It’s mostly islands. It’s mostly a water planet.

And they were having . . . Just before their solar event and a sentient event, they started having massive earthquakes, tsunamis. They started having all of these types of things, too.

David: Before the flash.

Corey: Before their Ascension. And what was communicated to me was that our planet is a living being.

Most people watching this show will know exactly what I’m talking about. Gaia.

David: The network.

Corey: Gaia! Right. Now Gaia is going through an Ascension. It is finishing its last transitions into fourth density.

And we’re kind of like the fleas on a dog, a dog that’s going through Ascension, and we happen to be on the dog. We’re riding a planet. And we’re riding the wave of Ascension, or the wake, I guess you could say, of Ascension that our planet is going through.

David: Hm. Well, you know . . .

Corey: The symptoms of this change is that there are earthquakes, which cause tsunamis, volcanoes explode, that kind of thing. That’s just a natural part of the metamorphosis.

David: How disruptive do you think these Earth changes might get before the solar flash?

Corey: I think that they’ll be fairly disruptive. It’ll definitely have our attention, just like these recent hurricanes that are more powerful than what we’ve seen prior.

I think that we’re just going to slowly get used to seeing more and more things – earthquakes. It might become the norm.

David: Do you think that as we are going through these disruptive experiences that people are going to start to have more spiritual contact, more access, more telepathy, or these types of paranormal events in their lives?

Corey: Yes. And the way it was also explained to me is that these things will be catalysts to push us further into our polarities. As in . . .

I guess right now we’re seeing negative people are being pulled more towards each other in negative groups. And positive people are starting to congregate as well. And that’s going to happen on a much larger scale.

So this is a very positive thing happening. It is kicking off the Ascension process. And if truly there is going to be a three-way split, maybe how we react emotionally and energetically to these Earth changes will help boost us or determine which polarity we’re pushing into.

David: And this is up to us now. We are the ones that have to steer this.

Corey: We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.

David: Indeed. All right. Well, Corey, I want to thank you for all this information. And I want to thank you for watching and supporting our grassroots effort here at Gaia.

I’m David Wilcock with Corey Goode, bringing you “Cosmic Disclosure”, and we’ll see you next time.



Source: Sphere Being Alliance

In Memoriam
William Milton Tompkins
May 29, 1923 ~ August 21, 2017


David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here with Corey Goode.

Now some of what we’re going to cover in this show has been covered before, but here’s the key. We’re talking about something that is very real.

The REAL reason why we’re doing this show is not entertainment. It is disclosure.

And by talking about these things and exploring them in more detail, we are helping to crack the lid on something that’s actually a very serious problem.

And so for that very same reason, in a topic like this, we need as much information about it as we possibly can get. And the more information we have, the more powerful our tools become to be able to stop these horrible things from happening.

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William Tompkins: It’s very strange that this has been going on, that the same structure of a medieval country – kings, queens, princesses, all of the top people – agreed with maybe France’s or Spain’s group, and they became the elite. They became the control of the population in their countries and were never allowing the people a real life, never allowing them to participate in many of the other things, and many of them were actually slaves.

So the big slavery business out there is a big business. It’s a major business today – a massive business.

Anything that you want to manufacture, anything that you want to farm, anything that you want to build, it’s all done with slave people.

In Germany . . . Germany had massive underground facilities that were all slaves and even to the extent that when the decision was made before the war ended that they were going to continue all of their extraterrestrial developments on UFOs and on every weapon system that they were building, they took the production facilities to Antarctica, but they also brought the slaves with them.

So now there are slaves underneath the ground and they still are today in Antarctica.

But the slave business out there is a big business, and this is happening today. It’s not something that happened 100 years ago. This has been going on a long time and that needs to be fixed.

There’s all kinds of slavery. There’s sexual slavery, unbelievably. There’s many different classes of people that are abducted for slavery, sexual slavery. They want the top and the smartest, because they are worth more.

They have, I think, four or five different levels of people that they abduct. They abduct top medical research people. They abduct the corporate levels, and they abduct the most brilliant levels, and then they go down through the three levels and that says where they get sectioned off.

Everybody gets to two planets and then it’s decided where they’re going to be sent to. But it’s a massive business. It’s been going on for years, and we can’t identify where these people have gone.

Just like ‘normal’ abductions, we don’t know where they went, because most of them don’t come back. We’re only hearing from the few that came back.

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David: Whew! So as we can see there, this is some pretty intense stuff.

We have quite an interesting perspective on this because, of course, if you’ve been watching our show, Corey has had experience with this himself. He also discussed it when he was on with George Noory.

So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: Now, let’s just start off by saying I know that you’re very uncomfortable about this topic. Why is this so upsetting to you, this topic?

Corey: Because I saw it firsthand. It’s a very upsetting topic. If it sounds like fiction, it’s upsetting enough, but when you hear someone else corroborating what you’ve been through, what you’ve experienced, it brings a lot of the anxiety, a lot of memories come back.

David: Well, let’s start to talk a little bit about what Tompkins had to say in the video footage. First of all, he seemed to be talking about traditional Cabal countries, France, Spain, England, and slave trades that they had going back for generations.

So there was a little bit of an “Illuminati” thing there, because he was mentioning royal families that all got together and were secretly collaborating even though their countries appeared to be fighting with each other.

Did you ever get to hear about that kind of stuff – the Game of Thrones sort of politics, the occult elite?

Corey: Yeah, we were very curious where these people were coming from, how they were acquiring them, and it turned out that they were using this multi-generational infrastructure for slavery that they had built just for here on Earth.

David: REALLY?

Corey: Yes, and it had never stopped. The human slave trade on Earth has never even slowed down really.

David: So just to make sure that I understand what you’re saying, the exact same systems and the management structures and the coordination of how these Cabal or Illuminati countries were doing it back going 100s of years, it just continued directly through to this galactic slave trade involving extraterrestrials.

Corey: Yes, to present time.

David: I know I’ve asked you this before, but for the purposes of clarity for today, how long have extraterrestrials been grabbing slaves off of our planet?

Corey: As long as we’ve been on this planet.

David: Did they have the collaboration with this slavery mechanism from the Cabal countries in the past?

Corey: I know it’s gone back some time, but I don’t know how far back, how far it goes back, that the Illuminati groups, if you want to call them that, were using the people in the field that go scouting for people to kidnap, give them a list of what you’re looking for.

Those people do the kidnapping, bring the people that they had abducted to a central location where they are basically treated like cattle, sent down different . . . go different directions, you know. This person will go off-planet. This person will go into the underground sex slave trade.

David: Tompkins mentioned that there were different types of delineations of who is picked and for what purpose. He mentioned farming. Could we start with that? Talk about what type of farming would these people be doing if they were being brought for that purpose.

Corey: Well, they will raise food for people in the program kind of like hydroponic-kind of setups on other bodies in this solar system . . .

David: Hm.

Corey: . . . where they grow food. And they do have people . . . They’ll get people that do construction. They’ll go and they’ll take these people and then take them off-planet and force them to do these things.

David: How would they prevent these people from trying to put poison into the food supply or doing something to sabotage the operation? If you’re a slave, you’re not going to be happy about it.

Corey: No, but the way they treat these slaves . . . I mean, you have NO HOPE of ever seeing home again. They treat them just well enough to where they want to survive, they want to stay alive, but bad enough to where they will follow any worker.

David: Tompkins also mentioned manufacturing jobs. Can we talk about that a little bit? What types of jobs might they have?

Corey: Sure. I’m sure everyone remembers me discussing the manufacturing plants on Mars . . .

David: Yeah.

Corey: . . . to where they would have tens to hundreds of thousands of people living close by these manufacturing plants to where they were being sent in trains to these plants to work.

And this is going on on other bodies in our solar system as well.

David: So are they actually going to do high-technology stuff?

Corey: Oh, yes. They’re building things that non-terrestrials are coming here to trade for.

David: Right. Is a significant majority of the workforce that they have for things like the ICC all actually abducted slaves?

Corey: There are abducted slaves and people that go and apply for a job. They get a job, they’re happy, they go to work, and then become a slave.

David: But you’ve also described in other episodes that there are plenty of extraterrestrials who are not going to be local to our solar system, and they are also picking up slaves for a variety of different reasons as well.

Corey: Uh-huh.

David: And we may have no idea what those people are doing.

Corey: How this really all turned into such a huge trade is that in the beginning of when we started having contact with non-terrestrials, we were allowing them to abduct humans and take humans. There were so many humans that were never coming back.

So the very morally bankrupt people in this Cabal, decided, “Wait a minute. If we can hold off the non-terrestrials, we can trade these people for technology.”

David: What is the estimate, or if there is a sliding scale of estimates, as to how many people per year are being brought into this?

Corey: Well, I remember this statistic for worldwide disappearances is like a million people.

David: And if that’s happening every year, it could be very sizable.

Corey: Yes, yes, it’s . . . Millions of people have been taken off this planet.

David: So we could literally be talking about many millions of people who have been brought off this planet into this world in various ways.

Corey: Yes, that are being brought into the slave trade. And you also have to remember that the people we were just talking about that lived on these . . . that are slaves on these Mars facilities, they, over the decades, have begun to have children, and these children are born into slavery. So it’s generations of slaves [that] are up there.

David: And Tompkins corroborated a lot of things that you’ve said very precisely, including this idea of like a brain drain or different echelons, different tiers, of people being brought in.

Corey: This is one of the biggest topics that the Cabal doesn’t want anyone to know about. This is one of the things, if we have Full Disclosure, and people find out about all these crimes against humanity, it’s going to be a CRAZY DAY on planet Earth.

David: Well, let’s say that happens. What is the carrot that we have to look forward to with all of this? Is disclosing it actually going to stop it? I mean, aren’t we turning our backs on these people if we don’t talk about it?

Corey: Very much so. A lot of people that have been involved or have firsthand knowledge of this don’t want to talk about it because of the huge amount of shame involved.

You know, they have sociopaths that are doing a lot of this work, so, you know, they don’t lose any sleep. But other people like myself that get drug into it, we’re tortured. Inside of us, we’re tortured for the rest of our lives.

David: I’m sure. One of the things that, obviously, we don’t want to get too specific about it, but something that we haven’t mentioned before, is the idea that there is a sex trade going on.

Corey: Um-hum.

David: What do you think is the purpose behind a sex trade and slavery in that sense? What’s the objective here?

Corey: For these humans serving in the darker side of the Secret Space Programs, and for non-terrestrials, to be able to have sex. I mean, it’s . . . They like to dominate, and that’s a big turn-on for these sociopaths.

David: Hm.

Corey: So, I mean, it’s, I guess, the oldest story in the world when it comes to talking about sex.

David: So this is very similar to the kind of sex trafficking that we’ve heard about on Earth where somebody could get brought into this world and, for whatever reason, they will work as a prostitute even though maybe they could escape. They’re not going to really try to escape because they’re kept under such tight control.

Corey: Yeah, there’s no escaping. I mean, there’s no escaping. You’re . . . If you’re on a tin can floating through space, where do you go? If you’re on another planetoid somewhere in another solar system, what do you do? I mean, you have no hope.

David: What have you been told – and I know we’ve covered this before, but I think it’s important to give people some sense of hope in this subject – what have you been told is going to occur as we end up freeing ourselves from the control of AI and the Draco and other negative groups? How will that affect what’s happening to these people?

Corey: A while back, some of the Alliance, SSP Alliance, people, before there was an SSP Alliance – they were just people that were acting on their own volition or in small groups – began tagging people that were going off-world into the slave trade.

And we’ve had some of these non-terrestrial groups that we work with, go and retrieve them and take them for healing.

So after all of this comes . . . all of the AI is gone, we’ve had Disclosure, people have had a chance to acclimate to Disclosure a little bit, a lot of these people that were in these different types of slave trades that have been rescued and are now in another star system going through healing, will be allowed to rejoin us.

And I know that’s something . . . You know, I talk about this topic, and it is entertainment for a lot of people, but there are people that watch this show that have had loved ones disappear. And I hear from them.

So this topic is very real, and it is the most serious topic in Disclosure.

David: It’s possible that maybe some of the people that are watching this show, if they lost a loved one, not everybody is necessarily going to end up in something bad.

Corey: Right. And these slaves are not always treated that horribly by different species. Some of these species respect what humans can do. And when it comes to engineering, manufacturing . . . our abilities, our innate abilities . . . And some of these groups that take humans they take them and . . . they take them off-planet and treat them very well.

Think about shows where you’ve . . . you hear of people having a maid that lives with them or that . . . So it’s not all total doom and gloom. It’s happening against their will, which is bad enough, but not everybody is getting eaten or being part of a sex trade.

David: Sure.

Corey: They really look for the most intelligent and gifted people on the planet, and they will either take them or one of their family members who have the same traits if they are too public.

David: All right. Good.

Now what we’re going to have is our last video clip from the interview series, and this is Tompkins talking about a very interesting subject. Let’s take a look.

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Tompkins: I was in a meeting on the subject with some other people, and this one young lady said, “I’ve got one.”

And, “You’ve got what?”

[Whispering] “I’ve got one.”


“I have.”

“I’ve got a picture of it.”


“Yeah. A real picture of it.”

“How’d you get that?”

“Well, we were having a party Friday night in Oceanside, and Saturday morning we went – all eight of us – we went to that cul-de-sac off of Lake Boulevard” – it’s right over at Carlsbad. Now Carlsbad is next to Oceanside, okay? So they’re standing on the border between the two – to show the other three couples their new condo that’s being built just across the area.

So everybody goes out there, and they’re standing around this fence because it dropped off quite a bit and then came back up.

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So they took the picture, one picture of this whole valley thing – not a picture like that [pointing up like to the sky], but just straight out.

And they developed the pictures, all the party pictures the night before, and then this.

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You’ll notice it’s serrated on the sides and it’s serrated on the top.

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Look what’s coming out of the back of it in color – five separate gases coming out of this Reptilian tanker, dropping five gases at 300 feet.

You’re smoking their gas today, because they drop this gas only on technically advancing communities on the planet, okay, every four to six weeks. So you could be getting it today.

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Not one – one, two, three, four, five, six. THEY DIDN’T SEE IT, because everybody’s minds are controlled to not see it just like a stealth system.

So the commander of this squadron made sure that that stealth was turned on. He forgot to turn on the stealth that prevents a camera from photographing it. Okay?

So the reason you don’t see these – they’re flying all over us. There’s hundreds of them. They’re thousands of them every single day on your planet. They’re dropping the gas.

So your mind is being controlled, and you don’t function normally or how you should function.

And so, again, we are being mind-controlled not for the last couple of weeks but for thousands of years. And back to the Romans again, their minds were controlled.

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And it’s hard for us to accept that somebody’s controlling MY MIND, and particularly – now this is extremely important – particularly because the brilliant PhDs in ALL technical fields, these people are most important for everything that we need in science, but their minds have been controlled.

So they are . . . they won’t listen to what some of the rest of us are talking about because they “know everything”, but what they’ve been taught in those books at the university is all lies. Every technical field, it’s all lies. It’s incorrect.

And it’s preventing people that put in the eight years, or whatever, knowing everything now, to accept this subject.

That’s the reason Congress didn’t accept it when the MUFON went back to Congress – the Democrats and the Republicans, neither one of them. Well, their heads were all nodding up and down, “Yeah, yeah, yeah.”

Ten minutes later it was removed, because they were already programmed. Their minds were programmed not to accept that.

I know this sounds insane, but this is fact. This is what it is.

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David: All right. Well, I don’t know about you, but that’s pretty shocking stuff to me as a UFO investigator. I wouldn’t have believed any of this maybe even as recently as a couple of years ago.

So, Corey, what do you think about this? What’s your initial thoughts after seeing this clip?

Corey: Very interesting! What I have found out more recently is that they do drop gas – ‘they’ being the Draco. They do drop gas on technologically-evolving areas, but they also monitor each city, county, whatever, and if a certain amount of people are starting to wake up, they will go and drop mind-control gas on them.

It’s more of a throwing bleach on a situation.

David: They would increase the gas if more people start to wake up in a given area?

Corey: Yes, they have . . . Not only do they use gas, but for the most part they use a technology that sends . . . that puts out a field that controls our minds.

You’ve seen people be hypnotized, and they’ll say that . . . they’ll be told that, “Okay, your wife is invisible. You can no longer see her.”

And then your wife will walk between you and another thing, and you don’t see the wife. You see through the wife, and you see what’s behind it.

David: Right.

Corey: Well, the mind control works a lot like that as well. There are different layers of the mind control.

There’s different layers of how the mind works, and they have to have a solution for each layer technologically and chemically.

David: This helps me start to put together other pieces I’ve been gathering for a long time. And the mind control stuff was always kind of sounding a little dubious to me, but I did have an insider, and he explained to me that there is an AI computer system that’s monitoring everyone on Earth’s thoughts, and that if you start to awaken to the things that this computer is programmed for you not to think about, that it will create things like nervousness, extreme exhaustion, tiredness, anything that it can do to try to divert your mind off of the topic.

Are you aware of anything AI-related like that?

Corey: Not specifically, but it makes total sense. If the Draco or AI prophets, if they report up to artificial intelligence, and all the information I’ve given on artificial intelligence about how it’s controlling the planet, that’s not a huge leap at all.

David: We’re looking at a ship in this photograph that William holds up, and there seems to be other ships like that in the sky. First of all, he’s mentioning a cloaking technique and it’s not really clear if the technique is simply something that . . . we can’t see it because we’re mind-controlled not to see the ship, or is it that it actually bends light around the object? I wasn’t really clear.

Corey: Both.

David: You think it’s both.

Corey: Both. It is both. Yes, there’s the component that I talked about – the hypnotism reference I gave . . .

David: Right.

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Corey: . . . to where they put out a field to where they don’t want you to see certain things, you just don’t see them. You could have your dog next to you going [looking up at the sky], “What the heck is that?” And you don’t see it.

It’s set to the waves of how our mind works, you know, the alpha, delta, theta, theta waves.

So they’re manipulating you on THAT level, and I say ‘you’, I mean us, because usually when you hear ‘humans are mind-controlled”, just like he said, people sit back, “My mind’s not being controlled. That must be OTHER people. I’m too far advanced, you know. I have special beings that I talk to. It’s just impossible.”

But the fact is, all of us – you, me, people at home – we’re all mind-controlled to a certain degree.

David: So when he was showing us this image of what he called a Reptilian ship, it has an interesting appearance, and I’m curious if you have seen any craft like that that were attributed to Reptilians?

Corey: Very similar.

David: Really?

Corey: Except they looked as if they were tankers that held a lot more volume of whatever they were transporting. And the experience I had was, I was seeing footage of these things bringing in water from lakes and oceans.

David: Hm. And because of this mind-control and cloaking, they could be doing this and you wouldn’t even know that it was happening?

Corey: It could be happening right above you right now and there’s no way you would know. They could be taking water out of your local reservoir.

David: Well, let’s just kind of get through the fluff and get to the meat of this, which is, what’s the purpose for us being mind-controlled? What’s the big deal? What are they trying to stop?

Corey: Well, they’re trying to stop us from advancing technologically so that we are an interstellar race.

David: Interesting.

Corey: And they’re trying to keep us under control on this somewhat slave planet that they are wardens of. So there are a lot of reasons why they do mind-control.

Any of these sociopathic groups, human or non-, that are in a place of power, they want to keep that power. And if you have no moral compunctions about doing slavery, or any number of other things, controlling the minds of the people on a planet you control is going to be just . . . it’s going to make sense to you.

David: Well, for those who have watched “Wisdom Teachings” or read my books, or are just familiar with my work in general, then they will know that I’ve done a lot of scientific validation showing, for example, in the last 5,000 years, our DNA has evolved by 7% across its entire structure.

That’s a hard, solid scientific data point proving that we are going through some kind of Ascension or mass evolution.

Corey: Right. And that’s one of the other things that I didn’t mention that they’re trying to stop . . .

David: Okay.

Corey: . . . is: they’re trying to not necessarily prevent us from genetically and spiritually evolving, but control HOW we evolve. They’re not completely stopping it, but they’re controlling it.

David: So this is a spiritual war . . .

Corey: It is.

David: . . . in some sense.

Corey: Yeah! Absolutely.

David: Now, when I spoke to Tompkins in personal phone calls, he mentioned that the people in our military-industrial complex who are against the Reptilians are very concerned about shooting down these tankers.

And what he told me was, they’ve determined that although they have the technology to shoot the tankers down, they can’t kind of gradually turn off the switch.

They’re worried that when they shoot them down [finger pop], all of this technology turns off all at once. And he said that could be very bad for us.

Corey: Very bad.

David: Now, what’s your take on that? What’s your background on that?

Corey: I’ve touched on this on other episodes that, yeah, that’s absolutely true. They’re worried about when the AI is removed [fingers pop] real quickly, we may expect it to occur in a solar event that will remove the AI.

That will also remove these certain entities that attach to us and control us. They use entities for mind control as well.

David: What is that going to look like? What happens to the average person who’s been under this mind control if it was suddenly removed?

Corey: Well, if you’ve ever seen a person that was addicted to heroin and then they stopped cold turkey, it’s going to be very similar.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. They’ve had a certain state for so long that the shock . . . it would be sensory overload.

He said that we don’t operate normally as human beings. That’s true. We have other senses that are being blocked right now. It would be very similar to a blind or deaf person that all of a sudden – they’ve been that way all of their lives – and then all of a sudden they’re gifted vision or the ability to hear. They’re going to get sensory overload. They’re going to have to acclimate.

David: Well, one of the things I remember reading, and this goes back to Val Valerian and his infamous Matrix Series of books in the late 1990s. He pointed out that the cell phone frequency that has been chosen to be used by the government happens to also be the same frequency that the human skull resonates at if you ring it like it was a bell.

Corey: Right. Cell towers, they’re relaying data from your phone call, but they’re also . . . that technology is . . . they’re piggyback waves that are in there that are mind control. And this is part of this huge grid that goes across the planet that they use.

David: Do you think that somebody who lives in an urban area as opposed to a rural area, just by the number of Wi-Fi transmitters that are going to be around them, are going to be a lot more affected by all this stuff?

Corey: Absolutely. And you can see that in the behavior of people. You can see people act like idiots in the city because they’re just piled up on each other, but there is more to it than that. They have all this technology around them to where they are getting hit with all these waves.

If you’re out in a rural area, it’s going to be a lot less exposure.

David: Now, one of the most audacious things is where Tompkins very confidently disses every type of science we have. And I forget his exact wording, but he called it “garbage” or something like that.

Corey: It’s lies, yeah.

David: It’s a very hard thing for people to – people who are not familiar with what we’re talking about – to accept him making such a bold statement as that.

What do you feel is the reason behind that statement? How could that statement possibly be true?

I mean, it seems like with science we’ve figured out a lot of things. We’ve nailed a lot of things down. We’ve got some pretty good gadgets. We can travel.

Why do you think he would have said that?

Corey: Well, because every science you can think of, even archaeology, physics, medicine . . . all of these people are . . . it’s like the Dark Ages. The information is basically the Dark Ages. And we’ll look back at this time as being Dark Ages.

They’re using antiquated information, and they have been basically brainwashed and taught through their schooling process that, you know, “This is the truth; this is the way it is,” and not to think outside that box.

If you notice, people in these fields, if they try thinking outside of the box, they’re labeled ‘a conspiracy person’ or ‘a fringe person’ and they don’t get the respect they deserve.

David: Sure. We have to be dealing with a technology that is a lot more advanced than just what we would think of as a breathable gas, though.

If we’re talking about a technology that could actually steer us away from certain scientific discoveries. This is obviously a highly advanced technology, I would think.

Corey: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, the whole planet is bathed in this field, this mind-controlled field. They use gas just for kind of a localized situation. A little red light goes off on their AI monitoring, then they’ll send a small fleet over to gas the people, and then the little light will go off.

David: Most of the scholars that talk about mind control pretty much stick to ELF waves or extremely low-frequency waves. And there is research that has pointed towards the fact that if you beam a very low frequency, maybe 5 hertz or something, into a crowd, that you could induce mass hysteria. You could get the crowd to become very agitated. But we’re talking about pretty grotesque, blunt movements of peoples’ consciousness.

Corey: That’s very low tech . . .

David: Yeah.

Corey: . . . what you’re talking about compared to what these non-terrestrials have that they’re using on us.

David: Do we have any way of understanding how such significant manipulation of our thought patterns is accomplished – how it is actually done?

Corey: We’re going to have a problem understanding it, because we’re in the paradigm of understanding and believing all of these scientific lies.

David: Right.

Corey: The people in these programs that were investigating it, they had the benefit of having the true sciences. They operate in a way that we just wouldn’t understand, or very few of us would.

David: So once this mind control goes down – let’s say that it does go down – once we go through this sort of acclimation process, what does it look like on the other side?

Corey: Well, yeah, once we finally acclimate to our new abilities, which are actually old, old, ancient abilities that have been repressed in us, then we’re going to have to learn how to use them responsibly. We’re going to have to learn how to interact with each other in a whole new way.

We’ve been so programmed to be at odds with anyone whose skin is slightly different, or you worship a slightly different named God. We’re programmed to inter-fight.

We’re not going to be able to overcome that like that [snap of the fingers]. It’s going to be a process.

So we’re going to have a process ahead of us once Disclosure happens.

David: All right. Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode – very fascinating stuff. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I thank you for watching.


Source: Cosmic Disclosure

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode, and in this episode, we’re going to get into the Grand Experiment.

This is something that is of particular interest to me, and I’m sure to many of you watching this program, because this Experiment affects people who are human but may not fit in and may in fact have ET souls.

So here for more information is Corey Goode. Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we’ve talked about the idea that there was a Super Earth in our Solar System that exploded 500,000 years ago, and that it deactivated some sort of protective grid around our own Solar System and neighboring systems as well.

And you said that shortly after this, a bunch of groups of ETs came in. And could you tell us a little bit about them just to recap? Who are they, and what do they want?

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Corey: Yes, they’ve been referred to as this Genetic Farmer race. And they’ve been on some sort of a mandate throughout the galaxy to spread advanced life, and to monitor and assist the development of that life, as well as the spiritual development of that life.

David: Could you define “advanced life?”

Corey: Advanced life would be, I guess, like a human being.

David: Okay. So at what point did you become aware of this existing?

Corey: I first became aware of this program when I was around the age of 13, and I was in these MILAB . . . what we’re calling the MILAB programs.

David: Okay.

Corey: Once I had been put through the process of receiving the full dose of the serum that they were giving me for intuitive empaths, I was also about at the end of the training, and they wanted to have me out in the field.

So around age 13, they took me to . . . which we’ve done an episode about . . . they took me to this Super Federation base outside of Jupiter.

And I’ve described before how when we would fly into this temporal anomaly, that you ended up in a giant, like, a bubble in space, that you couldn’t see stars. It was just pitch black.

And the space station was sitting right there in the middle, and you would see craft going to and from, from different races. And they were coming to have a meeting.

David: So why would ETs doing this be interested in a 13-year-old kid?

Corey: They had no interest in me whatsoever. I was there as one of three IEsupports. They usually would have three intuitive empaths with them to help triangulate any type of deception, danger, anything like that.

David: Okay.

Corey: And as I’ve described before, they brought us into the main meeting hall, and we sat in sort of a horseshoe fashion in a delegate seat. And at that point, they were giving us smart-glass pads to keep ourselves busy.

And I was starting to read information in those about the group that I was there to support and the different genetic programs that they were involved in.

And that’s when I found out that there were 22 different programs.

David: Were you there to support an ET group? Is that what you were involved in?

Corey: No, I was there to support the Earth delegation, but I was there to monitor everyone other than the Earth delegation.

David: So even though this Earth delegation is not elected, on some level, they represent us for this council?

Corey: Right. They rotate in. The seat rotates to different people on Earth.

David: And what would be our role in these negotiations? What are we fighting for? What do we want? Why are we there?

Corey: We don’t have a role. It’s just an observation. We’re just there to observe. And that was granted fairly recently, from what I’m told.

David: Did they ever intend for this information to be known to the general public, or do they want it to stay strictly classified?

Corey: Classified.

David: The beings that you saw in this Super Federation, how extraterrestrial would they look to us?

Corey: Well, there were 60 plus different groups. So some of them looked very similar to us in size . . . not in size but in configuration – you know, humanoid.

But a lot of them were very human-looking. They just had slightly different skin colors. I mean, they looked slightly different, but they looked fairly human.

There were some that were obviously a part of this Pre-Adamite group, the more ancient one. They were taller, and they had the elongated skulls.

There was even the ones that I had talked about in the previous episode we did, with green skin and black hair.

David: Do we know how local they are in terms of positions in our galaxy? Do they come from all over the galaxy, or is it more of a local area?

Corey: No, they come from all over the galaxy. Our local star cluster was once protected by a barrier, as we’ve discussed, by the Ancient Builder Race.

David: Right.

Corey: And once that was brought down from the inside by some of the inhabitants, these groups finally had access to all of this new, rich genetic stock. It was a very exciting time for them. They had not had access.

The only genetic programming that had gone on inside this bubble, if you wish, were groups that had become advanced themselves genetically and were traveling around within that local star cluster doing genetic experiments. And that had been going on for a billion years.

David: Just to review something that I believe you said before, are the people that evolve on planets in our local star cluster going to look more like us in general?

Corey: For the most part, they look very similar. Yes.

David: Okay.

Corey: There are different types that aren’t as mammalian-looking.

David: It seems to me that we’re pretty clear now that the Secret Space Program was being run by the Cabal, that there were some very negative aspects to it.

The term “Genetic Farmer”, to me, sounds kind of derogatory. And I’m wondering if perhaps what they’re doing might be actually more benevolent for human life on Earth than how the Cabal-run Secret Space Program might have been seeing it at that time.

Corey: When you are the petri dish, or the rat in the cage, your perspective is a little bit different than if you’re the one wearing the white coat.

David: But wouldn’t you say that the basic idea of what they’re up to . . . People hear the term “Genetic Farmer”, they might think that this is some kind of slave mill in which human genetics are being used for food or something like that.

Whereas what you’ve described before sounds more like an ascension plan, that they’re trying to help us.

Corey: Right. It is a spiritual and genetic plan, or program of evolution, that is working in concert with the cosmic changes occurring in different regions.

These cosmic . . . In different parts of the galaxy, these energetic influxes have occurred at different times and in slightly different ways. And they’re working with the local populations in concert with those cosmic changes to enhance their DNA and to enhance their consciousness.

David: I was recently going through the Hindu sacred texts using a search engine, and I found approximately . . . and it’s not exactly clear if they’re all individual or not, but I found approximately 188 references to the Solar Flash.

Everybody talks about this Solar Flash, and you have groups that are Reptilian groups called the Rakshasas. You have clearly groups like Krishna that have blue skin but are human-looking.

There’s a variety of groups that were on Earth at that time. And in these books, the Vedas, they talk about the Solar Flash as if everybody knows that this is going to happen. The Sun is going to give off this big flash at the end of the age, and that there is some kind of transformation of life on Earth.

So do you think that there is some relationship between the Genetic Farmers and what’s going on in the Hindu ancient texts?

Corey: Yes, because this flash they’re talking about is just a byproduct of these cosmic changes that are occurring, these energetic changes. So yeah, it’s a direct tie-in.

David: It’s interesting, because it’s like reading other people’s mail. Everybody takes it for granted. They all know this is going to happen. There’s no question that it happens.

Corey: It’s happened before.

David: Yeah, so it’s something they consider just to be a basic fact, like we would say that the color red is on a stop sign. Same thing.

So if they are trying to promote our Ascension, what is the difference for us when this Solar Flash would occur as opposed to if we were just out in the boondocks and nobody had ever done any of these experiments on us? What’s the difference?

Corey: Well, I’d like to think that there’s some sort of structure to the cosmos. I think that most likely you would still be advancing but at a much, much slower rate. This is like putting turbo speed on the Ascension process.

David: It’s almost like the analogy of the jack-in-the-box, where we’re spring-loaded and POW! Something happens when the Solar Flash takes place.

Corey: Right.

David: What was the history of intelligent life on Earth, if any, prior to the catastrophe of half a million years ago where the Super Earth blew up? Was there any human life or intelligent life on Earth before that?

Corey: Well, interestingly enough, this Reptilian or Saurian group that has been in conflict with humanity for so long, claims that they originally were stewards of the Earth, and that they had their own experiment going on here, that some of these races that now have a mammalian experiment going on had sterilized their experiment, and that in doing so, they had lost three races.

David: Hm. Three different intelligent species?

Corey: They said there were three lost races because of this cleansing that took place. So that’s one of the claims made by the Reptilians that I have not had verified.

David: The insider, Bruce, who gave me a lot of the information for “Ascension Mysteries”, said that the prevailing opinion within his insider clique now is that the asteroid, or whatever it was that destroyed the dinosaurs, was deliberately steered in, and that the Moon was placed in its current position at that time to jump-start more of a mammalian cycle for the Earth by giving us seasons that we wouldn’t have had without it.

Corey: Yeah, interestingly enough, my recent contacts with some of these airmen that escort Sigmund, they told me that I had gotten the dates wrong.

They said, according to their information, this Super Earth blew up 500 million years ago, and that it was 60 or so million years ago that the Moon came into orbit and that a lot of stuff . . . and that also they were telling me that it was really strange, but they were trying to push the dates out much further.

David: Well, my own research would suggest that they might have been disinforming you for some reason . . .

Corey: Yeah, yeah.

David: . . . because I’ve had multiple individuals say the same dates. And the 500,000-year-old date is precisely in the Law of One.

Corey: Right. And this is after Sigmund was missing, and they were asking me about his whereabouts. And so, yeah, there’s a lot of stuff that’s been kind of weird since then.

David: Do we know anything about what these three Reptilian races would have looked like or where did they go?

Corey: Nothing. Possibly, because the Raptor group, it is postulated that they are remnants of the dinosaur race that escaped under Earth, underground, and they escaped the cataclysm. So I don’t know if they could have been one race that survived and three more are missing, but it’s interesting to think about.

David: Hm. So I know we covered the Raptors before, but not everybody is going to have seen all episodes. So could you tell us a little bit more about them? This is a very strange thing, obviously.

Corey: And I found out since then that they have all different sizes and types.

David: Oh, really?

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Corey: Right. And the ones that we see the most have feathered plumes on the back of their necks like birds. They look like a mix between a dinosaur and a bird. They’ve got really jerky bird-like movements.

The opening to where they are is somewhere in the jungles of South America. And they’ve been known to come out and hunt at night.

Now, this is information I’ve been given more recently second-hand. It’s not anything I read on the glass pads.

David: Do they make speech? Can they make speech sounds? Or how do they communicate?

Corey: They communicate telepathically with each other.

David: Oh, so they don’t actually speak.

Corey: Well, they make noises. They have all different types, they . . . just like birds. They have nonverbal communications of different types.

But, yeah, they do not have a voice box. They do not have lips or a tongue, or the gene that everyone who has speech on the Earth has – I doubt very seriously. But they are high intelligence and are pretty ferocious.

David: Are they technological in any sense, or are they just basically a primitive species?

Corey: They’re pretty primitive technologically.

David: Are you aware of any technology that they have?

Corey: Just basic . . . not high technology. Just basic technology.

David: What would be a basic technology?

Corey: Well, you know, like using sticks and rocks or putting things together. They’re not super advanced.

David: Okay. So we have what appears to be a diabolical type of Reptilian race that was growing out of the dinosaurs on Earth. Somebody else comes in and decides that that needs to be sterilized and cleansed. Do the Reptilian groups believe that they still are in control, and they have land and title rights to this planet as a result of thinking that they were here first?

Corey: Yes, that is one of their claims.

David: Okay. So it looks like what we’re seeing, if this did in fact happen, is that these Genetic Farmer groups are actually terraforming, that they’re able to remodel an entire planet based upon a certain desired outcome. Would you say that’s true?

Corey: Yes, that’s part of the Grand Experiment.

David: And if we’ve talked about the Moon – we had William Tompkins say this as well – having just a massive amount of internal structure, is it possible that the Moon could be transporting, literally, an entire biosphere from one planet to another inside of itself as part of this terraforming?

Corey: Well, that is one of the theories, that it’s that ancient.

David: Okay. So if the Genetic Farmers are actively pursuing this type of a strategy, it seems like it’s not just about creating life as we see it today. We are in the middle of something. We are not the end of something. Would you say that’s true?

Corey: Right. Yeah, we’re pretty far along in the Experiment.

David: Oh, we are?

Corey: I would say so. We’re obviously about to reach some sort of a crescendo, so we’d better be a pretty good ways into the Experiment.

David: Would you speculate that the Experiment would conclude fairly soon after the Solar Flash, that whatever they get out of that is the outcome?

Corey: It won’t conclude. It’ll just change – go into a new phase.

David: Okay. So this could actually go on for, in our terms, quite some time.

Corey: It’ll go on until everything returns to Source or whatever happens at the end of time.

David: Would these Genetic Farmer groups acknowledge at some point that we would grow up enough to meet them and be aware of what had happened?

Corey: Definitely. The goal of these programs is to get each planetary sphere and the advanced beings on it to a point of self-management. At a certain point, we will be technologically, spiritually evolved enough to where we will start managing our own genetics and the pace of which we want them to evolve. That is the goal.

They want to get everyone to that point. And at that point, you become a part of this Grand Confederation.

David: You’ve talked before about the galactic slave trade, and the idea that whatever they’ve done here is so much more valuable than in many other places, that we are a highly desired abducted commodity, either as slaves or as a source of genetic material.

Why do you think this planet is so unique in terms of what they were able to accomplish with these programs?

Corey: Most likely because of its location in the local star cluster. It’s right in the middle, right by a supergate, so beings are going to be able to come here easily from anywhere in our galaxy or other galaxies.

David: Do you have any specific information about the actual components of the genetic programs that these guys are running?

Corey: There is a genetic component. There is a spiritual component, and a related component, consciousness component. And the last component is one that we discussed, it’s the cosmic component – all of these working in concert with each other to work in timing with the cosmic component.

David: Okay, that’s interesting because when we talked about this before, you would basically just describe it as a genetic and spiritual component, and it’s like a sliding scale between one or the other.

So now you’re also saying that there’s a consciousness component and a cosmic component as well as a genetic and spiritual.

Corey: Right.

David: So could you delineate what these four categories would represent?

Corey: Right. And we just had never gone this in depth.

David: Okay.

Corey: The genetic program is pretty obvious. They’re harvesting genetics from other star systems, galaxies. And once they’ve gotten to a certain point that they think will be a good catalyst for a different species, they’ll bring it to that planetary sphere and begin to genetically manipulate that species.

They have to stick to cosmic laws very strictly – the laws of free will.

David: Uh huh.

Corey: So one of the largest components of this program – and it took a long time to figure this out – was a lot of the people, if not most, that are being abducted and experimented on, they were incarnations of the soul group, I guess you would call them, of the beings that are doing the experiments.

So basically, let’s just say like an Eban – they don’t normally do that much experimentation on humans – but if they wanted to go down and ethically do experiments on humans, they would have a number of their people leave their bodies, go down, go into incarnation on Earth, and then be a part of the experiment and allowing themselves, in an agreement before they went in, to be genetically experimented on.

David: Are you saying that cosmic law requires you to do that in order to play around with these experiments?

Corey: The cosmic law requires the benevolent ones to do this type of thing.

David: Wow!

Corey: They learn how to skirt these cosmic laws very well without crossing them.

David: Hm. Okay. So you have a genetic component, and you indicated that they are harvesting genetics from another planet. What does that mean? That sounds pretty terrifying.

Corey: Well, they’re getting genetic samples from beings that they have developed to a certain period. And there is a being over here that needs that same development. So to give them a turbo boost, they’ll take those genes, transport them over to this group.

David: It’s not like they’re throwing a being in a blender and then just taking the tissue.

Corey: No.

David: This is a very technical process I assume?

Corey: At this current day, if you were to give a genetic sample, you’re just going to spit in a cup or get a swab.

David: Right.

Corey: They don’t have to put you in a blender.

David: So that’s what you mean by “harvesting”.

Corey: Right.

David: Okay. Then you also said there was a consciousness component to this. And could you explain what the consciousness component is and how that would differ from the spiritual component?

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Corey: Yeah, the consciousness component is related to the spiritual component. The consciousness component is to have the target group, which would be us in this case, develop their consciousness on a schedule that matches the cosmic schedule that’s about to occur. So it’s all managed very carefully.

And consciousness grows at a certain rate that they have calculated, but they’re enhancing it by coming in and giving us different, not just religions, but cultural things. You know, teaching us how to raise animals and all of that civilization kind of . . .

David: Yeah, this is interesting because it appears that if you look at this Atlantean catastrophe of 12,500 years ago, thereabouts, that in the aftermath, we have independent civilizations all over the Earth that seem to develop the technology of milling grain, metallurgy, plumbing, sewage, building technology, mathematics, time measurement, codified law.

You’re saying that these Genetic Farmers are centrally involved in all that type of stuff?

Corey: Yes.

David: And it’s because they’re keeping us on a timeline?

Corey: Well, not necessarily a timeline, but keeping us on schedule for the Cosmic Event. And they want to enhance us much further through this genetic engineering and spiritual engineering process so that when this Event does occur, this Cosmic Event, that we are going to boost much further than we would if we developed naturally.

David: And it would appear that they are allowed to be “gods”, if you will, to show up in person with their craft and in their incarnate forms as they’re going through these stages of a rebooting of civilization like this.

Corey: Yeah, if they’re in the middle of a reboot, but for the most part, no. The positive ones try not to appear in the sky or around human beings or other beings, unless that is one of the catalysts that they’re trying to use to have them grow in consciousness.

David: So if they want to teach us about alchemy, or metallurgy, or astrology, or something like this, and they don’t want to appear, how would they be doing it?

Corey: Well, through leaders. They communicate with people telepathically. They give people ideas. They’ve done that with our scientists for a long time, seeded ideas and information to them subconsciously.

And the spiritual component is very much tied in with the consciousness component. That also has to do with these Genetic Farmers. They are incarnating as us to be a part of this Experiment, but many of them are karmically tied.

Because of the experiments that they’ve been doing, they can’t go any further in their evolutionary process unless we come along with them.

So a lot of their agenda has to do with having us progress so THEY can.

David: Do they all have languages where the name of their group would be something that would be able to be encapsulated in the type of consonant and vowel sounds that we use in our own spoken language?

Corey: Some [names] we’d be able to pronounce.

David: Are there others that have anomalies in how they speak that would not be at all familiar to how we could talk?

Corey: Well, I mean, go to Swaziland or somewhere just here on Earth and you hear the difference in how they communicate – clicking and pops and stuff. So yeah, there’s a wide range of ways that they communicate – different types of languages.

But there is . . . There does seem to be one standard language that they share, that they use.

David: I was sitting down with Graham Hancock for dinner at Contact in the Desert, and we talked about some similar subjects as this. And he reminded me that he wrote an entire book called “Supernatural” in which he discussed this idea that various indigenous cultures are making these cave paintings, and that that may actually be a far more sophisticated language, sort of like a hieroglyphic, that in some ways is tethered to a psychedelic consciousness, where the beings that they’re drawing actually exist somewhere.

So I’m curious if any of the languages that these Genetic Farmers have may involve a type of written hieroglyphic that does have a psychic domain that it activates by looking at it in some way.

Corey: Yes. Yeah, there are a lot of pictographic languages that the non-terrestrials have that in them will evoke that type of response. In us, it may evoke a similar response. It just depends on whether you’re close to them. There are a lot of variables there.

David: So we talked about four components total, and the fourth one was a cosmic component. So where does that fit in with what we’re discussing?

Corey: Well, the cosmic component is that in each region of our galaxy, the way that the galaxy rotates, star systems and star clusters are moving into these high energetic gaseous areas that are a catalyst for this.

And they calculate how quickly you’re moving into it. A lot of these energies they say have been hitting us since at least the 1930s, but they’ve been increasing, increasing.

So what they’ve been doing, the Genetic Farmer groups, is that they’ve been engineering humans genetically and also working on our consciousness and spirituality in a way to where when we get to the crescendo of this energy influx that we will be ready to make a turbo jump in changing densities, in changing consciousness, as opposed to if they hadn’t have interfered, we would just be a slightly different version.

David: There’s a lot of really interesting stuff in this Genetic Farmer subject for me, because the last time I ever used alcohol and drugs was on a Friday night. And I went to AA meetings starting on a Saturday.

And that same weekend, I believe on Sunday, I wrote this long essay about Earth. It was called “Earth as an Experiment.”

And I was describing the idea that there were ETs that were setting all of this up of our lives on Earth as part of a grand spiritual experiment.

Do you think these Genetic Farmer groups show up as people?

Corey: Well, definitely. They incarnate as people, as human beings. So they will incarnate as a human being. And at the end of that lifetime, their people will come and retrieve that soul and add it back to their collective. They usually have a backup body for them.

In fact, in the programs, in the beginning, there was some confusion, because some of these beings were coming in that we weren’t real familiar with and abducting people and returning their, basically, dead bodies.

And what finally occurred is that when we captured some of them and interrogated them, we found out that they were here retrieving some of their people who had died in crashes here thousands of years ago.

David: Hm.

Corey: And their people got caught up in the reincarnation cycle here on Earth. And what they had to do is locate their people, remove them and remove the souls and put the souls into another container, and they would return the bodies. So they saw it as a rescue mission, and a lot of the people in the programs thought there was something more nefarious going on.

David: Yeah, that wouldn’t sound as much like one of the benevolent groups as a group that’s probably more just tinkering around but without so much of a spiritual focus.

Corey: Right, but from the perspective of this group, they’re basically like “Star Trek Voyager” coming in to rescue some of their teammates that have been missing for 1,000 years or so.

So they have a completely different perspective on it.

David: So how much memory do these, as they’re called in “The Law of One”, the Wanderers . . . how much memory do these Wanderers have of who they really are once they become human?

Corey: They’re basically a blank slate when they get here to keep them from violating the laws that they’re trying to circumvent by incarnating here. So that’s a part of circumventing those laws is to incarnate here as a blank slate.

David: What would allow one of these people to escape the reincarnation cycle? You said once they come in they have to reincarnate.

Corey: In our incarnation cycle, reincarnation cycle, for as much time as it takes them to, I guess, evolve out of it, which they can do a lot quicker since they’ve done it before, they’re usually a species much more advanced than us, of course.

But also what can happen is they can be rescued. If they’re not rescued, they’re stuck here until they complete the cycle.

David: From what you’re describing, it sounds like some people might interpret this as if they’re getting into a soul trap by coming here.

Corey: Well, their soul DOES get trapped, but what occurs is that each planetary sphere has its own reincarnation cycle. And if they get caught up in it and don’t have anyone to rescue them, then they’re going to have to stay in it until they are able to get out through quick evolution.

David: In “The Law of One”, it says that any Wanderer that engages in a consciously unloving act towards others gets caught up in this reincarnation cycle. That’s actually stated in there.

I’m wondering if anything that you’ve heard personally would validate that idea.

Corey: I mean, the validation of that idea is basically the report that when these craft have crashed in the past, they’ve gotten stuck in our reincarnation cycle. So that would correlate.

David: Right. So let me ask you this. Are all of these various ET groups – you said there was 40 or 60 of them at various Super Federation meetings – are they all basically cooperating with each other and working for the same goal?

Corey: They’re working for the same overall goal, and they’re loosely cooperating with each other, and they have treaties and agreements, but they are not working in concert with each other.

A lot of these programs are competing programs as well. That’s why they have kept their experiments separate from each other. And they’ve instilled religious things like, “Do not mix with other races”. They didn’t want to pollute their experiment with another experiment.

David: Would they ever actually abduct someone outside of their own group for any reason?

Corey: Yeah. Often these groups, they keep tabs on each other’s experiments. And oftentimes, they try to sabotage each other’s experiments.

David: Hm.

Corey: What will happen is they will go and abduct an experiment, or a person that is an experiment from one group, and get the genetic information, do evaluations of their spiritual and consciousness level to keep tabs on how quickly their competitor’s experiment is proceeding.

David: So you said that religion is one of the ways that these groups are partitioned. So are you basically saying that geographic regions with particular races and their own separate special spoken language, that those are all actually separate programs?

Corey: Well, yes. And the fact that these different races on Earth are found in different regions separated by oceans, usually, that is done on purpose to keep these experiments from intermingling and polluting one another.

And that’s where a lot of the social programming, religious programming, has come in. You know, “don’t marry outside of your race” – a lot of instilling of racism to make it “us against them”.

They want us to self-manage on that level and not interbreed and mix with each other. That will pollute their experiments.

David: What would be the goal of them competing with each other like this? Is it about prestige?

Is there some sense of winning if one group proceeds faster or develops faster spiritually or technologically?

Corey: I don’t think it’s that type of competition. They want to see their agenda completed first.

And before all the treaties, a lot of these 22 different groups were battling with each other. When they first come into an area that has not been controlled by one of these Genetic Farmer groups, they have a whole routine of making claims, and there are skirmishes over claims.

So they go through this whole process, which usually ends in some sort of a treaty which they abide to until that experiment reaches the point of this cosmic portion of the program.

David: If you’re saying that there are 22 different groups, and there are also up to 60 attendees of races, . . .

Corey: 22 different programs.

David: Okay.

Corey: 60 attendees. And some of these attendees, there will be like five groups working on one genetic program together.

David: Okay. That’s what I thought.

Corey: And then some of them will be working on more than one program. They’ll be working on other programs that are not in competition with theirs.

David: So you could actually have one particular culture on Earth in a geographically isolated region that might have as many as five different ET groups that would be working with them, incarnating among them? This kind of thing?

Corey: Yeah, and some of them might be just taking the genetic component. Others might be appearing to certain people on the ground and giving them religious ideology. Some of them might just be appearing to give them a boost in civilization, technology for civilization.

So they work in concert with each other.

David: I’m curious about the population density of some of these groups on Earth, because it seems to me that someone might erroneously conclude that you would have only a few categories of these programs, given the fact that there’s only a few major monotheistic religions.

But what I’m hearing is, just like in medieval Europe, you have countries that are separated by mountain ranges or water, etc.

You might have something that we would think of as a country that could be its own genetic program, not just that it’s a race or it’s one particular religion, per se.

Corey: Right, regions.

David: Okay. So there could actually be a number of different geographically diverse regions that have their own experiments running in some sense.

Corey: Right. And sometimes multiple experiments, if they coincide with each other.

David: Hm. So in “The Law of One”, people that have this type of heritage are called “Wanderers”. They’re also frequently called “Starseeds”. And I would imagine that probably the majority of the people who watch our show would be ET souls, given what we know about them and how long I’ve been studying this, ever since 1996.

What would you say is a message that you could give to those people that might help them understand who they are, what they’re doing here, and what their purpose might be?

Corey: Well, I guess the hardest thing for most of them to believe is that they agreed to come here and experience all of this. Remembering that you, on some level, agreed to experience all this is the best way to keep yourself grounded, I think.

David: What would be a spiritual guideline for those people in terms of understanding what their purpose is for being here?

Corey: Well, most of those people are drawn to those things already, to eating properly, to raising their vibration through the type of information they watch and bring in, and meditating, that kind of a thing – and also mingling with people that are birds of a feather, I guess you would say.

David: It seems to me that a lot of people really get trapped into what esoterics would call “victim consciousness”, this idea that they are being oppressed by something that is gargantuan and totally beyond their control. And a lot of people seem to “sign off” on personal responsibility and move into that very comfortable skin of the victim role.

What would you say, in light of people that would be prone to thinking that way because they’re awakened to the truth, learning that they volunteered to do this, that they volunteered to be here?

Corey: Well, we’re learning that maybe we’re not victims after all. This victim mentality, maybe that’s just another psyop. Maybe once we realize what we are and our true potential, we will feel empowered and not like victims anymore.

David: Hm. I like that. All right. Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode regarding the Grand Experiment. I hope you’ve enjoyed it. It’s very fascinating to me with the history of being a Wanderer and awakening to that in 1996.

I’m David Wilcock here with Corey Goode. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”, and I thank you for watching.

Corey Goode on Nordic Extraterrestrials working with Religious Leaders for Disclosure

Source: Exopolitics

The following answers were received from Corey Goode on June 26 in response to questions I sent to him about information he shared recently in an article about the Vatican being involved in an extraterrestrial disclosure initiative. In his responses, he provides further details about what he has been told by multiple sources about ongoing events involving the Vatican, Nordic extraterrestrials and a US Air Force run secret space program.

For those still questioning the credibility of Goode and his disclosures, I recommend an article published on June 11 where documents and professional references are provided that prove two prominent UFO investigators were conducting a hoax investigation into Goode. The investigators clearly attempted to tarnish Goode’s credibility by saying his former career as a well-respected and highly paid Information Technology consultant was wholly contrived, and therefore he is a “pathological liar”.

I have to date communicated with three Information Technology experts who have corroborated Goode’s professional IT background, and they added that he continues to be highly regarded. In all, five IT professionals have vouched for Goode, four of whom have provided recommendations listed in Goode’s LinkedIn account. What this information clearly shows is that Goode was indeed a highly respected IT professional before going public in 2014 with his extraordinary whistleblower claims.

This does not prove any of Goode’s remarkable statements about secret space programs, but it does establish his credibility as a whistleblower whose information deserves serious scrutiny. Since coming forward, irreparable damage has been done to his prospects of working in the IT industry again. What follows adds important information about the role of the Vatican and the U.S. Air Force in impending disclosure initiatives involving Nordic (human looking) extraterrestrials.

Questions and Responses

Q1. Can you explain who told you about a group of extraterrestrials working with the Vatican and other religious leaders about alien disclosure?

I had heard this info in various forms for at least the last 6 months. I think I first heard it from Gonzales. Most recently “Sigmund” and his 2 Airmen Escorts have mentioned it as well. On June 15th, while discussing a number of topics Ka Aree mentioned it in the same conversation of the M.[Muhammad] Accords now being ignored by up to 4 Non-Human Groups.

Q2. What do you know of the Nordic extraterrestrials working with the religious community and why does Ka Aree consider them “brothers and sisters in the Confederation?

Ka Aree stated that the Nordics have worked with Humanity for a very long time. They have mostly worked quietly in the background, but do pop up in historical documents referenced as “Angels”. They would directly interact with certain groups within the Military and Government (including the founding fathers of the United States) as well as with various religious leaders. They have been heavily involved in developing Humanity in a number of ways.

First they (& other races) began to manipulate our DNA to assist in the ability to use speech and to have higher cognitive abilities. Then they developed civilization and base religions with humanity. During this time, Humanity began another important stage of our evolution. The Industrial and Technological Booms were assisted by a number of races including the Nordics. From the beginning these groups were manicuring our consciousness through belief systems and religions.

New belief systems and religions have been crafted by these groups (the Nordics in particular) up until the present day. In fact, The Airforce General we call “Sigmund” had just completed a report prior to his disappearance. In the report he concluded that the experiences I am having are all created and controlled by the Nordics. Further, his report stated that he and his superiors were convinced that this same Nordic group had created the Law of One information as well. He was convinced from the moment I met him that the Nordics were behind this.

The report stated there is no evidence of a NAVY SSP or credible reports from within the Airforce Space Command of there being a barrier around the solar system or a new group of ET’s arriving in Planet Sized Spheres.  This is very interesting knowing that Sigmund did indeed make contact with members of the Navy SSP and even arrested and interrogated a few of them. This report was dated in April 2017, just prior to his disappearance. I’m not at all sure that he wrote the report that was filed under his name.

Q3. What were you told about the contents of an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement in terms of why it would become the basis for a new world religion?

After these beings are introduced, they expect the public will have a lot of questions about the ET’s. The ET’s beliefs and knowledge of the Universe and God would be among the top questions. At this point these beings are expected to share a newly crafted belief system that is based on the ET’s true belief system. These beings will be doing this to help Humanity from the ET perspective.

Q4. You say 90% of people will adopt the new religion quickly. Were you told why it would happen so quickly?

It is expected that most will question their belief systems in the first few years of an introduction to ET’s. Humanity will understand how little we know and will be reaching out to these new “friends” for assistance and answers. This sets up a situation for the majority of people on the planet to adopt a similar belief system that gets them away from the current division.

Q5. What do you know of such an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement being preceded by disclosure of a Military Industrial Complex Secret Space Program?

The MIC SSP (Air Force/NSA etc…) have been preparing for the disclosure of their program. I have not heard of them doing this in tandem with an ET announcement other than the Antarctic ruins being disclosed along with more “Ancient Alien” artifacts around the Solar System. This narrative was supposed to first….

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Cosmic Disclosure: Zero Point Energy and Advanced Propulsion Technology

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. So, Corey, welcome back.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So I’ve got to say that when I saw this interview footage, the first one we’re going to watch here, he actually mentions the name of a guy who I knew very well.

And Mark Comings is one of the only people I’ve ever met who literally could run rings around me when it came to advanced physics.

And so when you and I are talking, you know a lot more about Secret Space Program stuff than anybody else I’ve met, except for a few insiders.

Mark Comings is one of those guys, but in the physics arena. So this really shocked me to hear him mention that name because I know so much about this guy we could talk about him for two hours.

So without further ado, let’s hear the first thing that Mark McCandlish has to say, and maybe you’ll understand why I was so surprised once you see it yourself. Let’s take a look.

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Mark McCandlish: I met a scientist who has since sort of taken himself out of circulation. He’s vanished. His name was Mark Comings.

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He was a physics professor working as a teaching assistant at UC Berkeley, in their physics department.

And he had been . . . He’d become aware of the fact that in the basement of the physics building on campus was a lot of this old surplus equipment – frequency generators and oscilloscopes and power generators – all these different kinds of things.

So he asked the head of the department if he could go down and just tinker and do some experiments. He had some ideas he wanted to play around with. And they gave him the okay.

So he had this idea that, as you may know, there are certain kinds of crystals, like quartz for example, that . . . It’s the whole basis for the original phonograph record, the stylus.

When you would put a small crystal – I think it was like a diamond crystal – under pressure, it would create a mild electrical current. And if you amplify that current, you could then hear what the impulses were coming through that stone, that gem. And you could actually hear the vibrations that were recorded in a disk of plastic. That’s how the phonograph works.

And so his idea was that, okay, crystals, when they’re put under pressure – physical pressure – will create an electrical charge. But he wondered if you augmented the process by putting electrical coils that wrapped around the crystal, and you essentially applied an electrical pressure to the crystal, that the crystal would do not only the same piezoelectric process of creating an output of electricity, but that it might actually be more than what you would get with just putting physical pressure on it.

That by taking advantage of the lattice – the crystalline structure of this object, this stone – that you could then get it to resonate in a way that would kick out even more energy than you were putting into it.

And so he had a barium titanate crystal. It was about eight inches long, double terminated – in other words, a point on each side – had a cross-section that was kind of like a stop sign, sort of an octagon shape, had it fabricated by a facility outside the San Francisco Bay area where he lived.

And he had two different coils. One had a lot of fine windings, and another coil wrapped around the outside of that, all completely insulated, that had a lower number of windings.

And he experimented with putting a variety of different electrical charges, different voltages, frequencies, in different combinations, until eventually one night, about 1 o’clock in the morning, working late on this apparatus, the crystal began to glow a bluish-green, and it began to ring.

You know how when you’re at a wedding, and you take your glass – your wet finger on a champagne glass, and it makes that high pitched ringing sound? He said it was like that.

And he looked at the scale – the dials on his equipment that showed input voltage and output voltage.

And this thing was putting out 125% more – in other words, everything it was getting plus an additional 25% over and above what he was putting into the crystal.

Of course, he was very excited, you know, took his notes, shut everything down, went home, went to bed. And by 8 o’clock the next morning, his house was surrounded by black SUVs and guys with ear buds and dark glasses.

They kick in the front door. They tossed the whole house. They arrested him. They confiscated all his notes. They confiscated his equipment.

And they basically said that they’d found a closed circuit TV system that he’d set up to view some of the women in the Phys Ed building, the locker room, the women’s locker room in the next building. And, you know, he was in trouble.

And they wouldn’t tell him what he was being charged with. They kept saying, “You know what you’re charged with. You know what’s going on here.”

And the reality of the whole thing was that he had created an apparatus that had accomplished what is supposedly impossible.

And I asked him, I said, “When you did this, when this thing finally worked when you found all of the right ingredients to make it work, do you believe that this thing put out some kind of a footprint in the environment that someone in the know was listening for and were ready to clamp down on?”

He said, “Absolutely, without a question.” He said, “Somebody triangulated my position, found out where I was, found the equipment, got ahold of the administration of the university, and they were at my house by 8 o’clock the next morning.”

That’s how fast it was. And so he’s gone into hiding. And I’ve heard that he’s working somewhere in the Far East.

He’s well-funded and continues his research, but all underground.

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David: Well, Corey, this is a very emotional thing for me actually, because first of all, I knew Mark Comings before he went into hiding. We actually spoke on the same stage at a conference I was doing in Portland in 2003, called “Time and Global Shift”.

And he wouldn’t tell me what he had invented that caused these guys to come to his house. So seeing McCandlish go into detail about what the invention was was a first. I had not heard . . . I just heard about the bad parts.

So let’s talk about that first. Is there, in fact, some sort of energetic signature like Mark and I also talked about personally, that we theorized had been released when you build one of these types of devices that they could detect?

Corey: Yes. And that is how they track, also, a lot of the nonterrestrial and human craft within our solar system.

It is used as a way of doing air traffic control to be able to locate the vessels producing this signature. There is indeed a signature that is put off in a limited spectrum that they are always listening for on the Earth and also in space.

David: Is there any place safe in the world for somebody to develop this technology? Or could the Cabal hit you basically at any geographical location on Earth?

Corey: When it comes to developing it, yeah, there are plenty of deep, dark holes you can hide in to develop it. And you have to acquire everything that you’re going to use – all of the different types of technology – you have to acquire it very quietly.

If one person starts acquiring certain technology, red flags go off.

So you can find a place secure to develop it, but the minute you’re successful, they’re going to know because of this energy signature that they can pick up.

David: Right.

Corey: That’s why they watch these people very closely, very important that they develop a personality profile on them so they can decide which way to approach them.

Some people, you know, the almighty dollar. If they go and offer them $1 billion, they’ll sign over the patent very quickly.

Others, who are more principled, they have to threaten their families. They have to lean on them. And sometimes, ultimately, these people will die of strange cancers, heart attacks, strokes, suicide.

David: It sounds like you’re describing a different type of what John Perkins wrote about in his classic book, “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”. And he called it “The gun or the money campaign” . . .

Corey: Um-hmm.

David: . . . where he’d walk in with a gun in one hand and a bale of cash in the other, and say, “I’m giving you one of the two of these before I leave here. Which one do you want?”

Corey: Yes.

David: Same basic idea, huh?

Corey: Same basic idea. And, I mean, if it’s going to work in that situation, humans are so much the same, they’re going to be able to use it for the free energy sector as well.

David: Another story that Mark Comings told me was that in another group that was aware of this kind of thing happening, they tried to build a free energy device where each component was built separately and the plans were kept separate.

And then only right when they were going to test it would they have each of the guys bring a different piece of the machine together, build it on the spot, test it, then break it down and take it away.

But even in that situation, he said they still got popped.

Corey: Well, it’s easy because there are satellites that are covering almost every square inch of . . . well, every square inch that is important on the Earth.

So if they came together real quick, put this device together, turned it on, and then The-Powers-That-Be got this signal ping on their device – they call it a ping – and then these people take apart the device and then scoot, well, they’re going to be able to go and rewind – just like a videotape where this satellite was tasked, at what time – and go to the right satellite, find the footage, and then track the people back to where they came from.

David: It’s very interesting that Mark Comings is describing the crystal glowing. So I’m curious if you ever witnessed glowing crystal technology in any of the stuff that you saw.

Corey: I saw the scientists working with different types of crystals and stones and stuff, and I saw very small crystals that were square, obviously man made, glow when a field was applied to them.

And there were . . . Nothing physically was touching them. So, yeah, I’ve seen that.

David: If they give you, let’s say, billions of dollars, and you take it. Do they then kill you later, or do you actually get to live out your life?

Corey: Very quietly live your life, probably on a remote island.

David: All right. Well, with that in mind, let’s now see this next piece of interview footage with Mark McCandlish discussing the interesting and scary politics of free energy. Take a look.

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Mark McCandlish: Actually, bringing the technology out and making it available is something that’s going to require all of the precautions that we started to implement when we went from the horse and buggy era to automobiles – you know, car crashes, or people going too fast, or spilling gasoline, and fires.

But, you know, the technology, if it’s properly implemented, can give the petroleum industry the ability to take all of that chemistry and use it for other things that are much more valuable in terms of their return on investment.

There’ll have to be a time when the scientific community as a whole is going to get together, and they’re going to have to acknowledge that the technology is real.

There’s been enough experiments, enough patents done now, that anyone who’s really in the know, who understands what the implications are of the technology, is going to understand that if a scientific consortium, a group of scientists, came together and they outlined a plan to implement the development of the technology in a way that it could be used safely – safely for the production of energy, with the sole purpose being to save the environment from all of the impacts of the pollution that’s created by fossil fuels, especially the nuclear power industry after the wake of Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and now Fukushima.

I mean, there are people now that are saying that in 20 years, the Pacific Ocean could be dead because of all the cesium 137 that’s being put into the ocean.

And if we can use the technology to produce power and not have to worry about nuclear power and the fallout, and the terrible footprint of nuclear waste, then I think we’ll be so much further ahead. I think the environment will really benefit.

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David: So regarding this question of clean energy, I think you and I both agree that it is being suppressed for a variety of reasons.

What would you say are the main reasons why this technology isn’t being allowed to go out there despite its awesome usefulness for the problems that we have?

Corey: Most of these patents have been classified for one reason. The reason is that if the free energy was released to the public, it’s going to collapse the economy because the energy sector is a very, very large part of the economy.

What truly is the reason is that those who control the energy sector don’t want to lose their power and income. So we are being denied these technologies just because somebody wants to get paid.

Another aspect of this is you’ll have someone try to reproduce one of these free energy devices. And if it is known, remotely they can create an imbalance in the field of where the people are doing the testing, and things that should normally be repeatable – experiments that are repeatable – won’t work.

So they’re able to affect it remotely as well – affect people’s research.

David: All right. Now, we’re going to have some footage from Mark McCandlish in which he’s describing not a reverse engineered situation, but an actual extraterrestrial craft and the attendant circumstances. Let’s take a look.

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Mark McCandlish: Since I found out about the Alien Reproduction Vehicle, one of the things that I began investigating was the whole business of alien abduction, and alien contact, and this kind of thing, because my thinking was that if these people really were having encounters with beings from another star system, there might be a chance – however slim – that they were taken aboard these vehicles, and they might have gotten a tour of the ship.

They might have had an opportunity to see some of the components of the ship.

And I really got pretty lucky, because one of the three young ladies who I investigated very thoroughly, did, in fact, make that claim, that after she had gone through some very horrifying tests to determine whether she was a threat to the beings on this vehicle, they did, in fact, give her a tour of the ship.

And one of the areas that she went into was an area where the central part of the propulsion system was located. And many of the components described were remarkably similar to the ones in the Alien Reproduction Vehicle.

There was a central column. There was evidence of counter rotation, just like in the Bell. There was a small disk, very similar to the item that’s in the Alien Reproduction Vehicle. But in the Alien Reproduction Vehicle, this thing is . . . it looks like the floor of the vehicle. It’s about a nine foot diameter disk that’s under the ejection seats.

1 3D Rendering Of ARV Interior

But on the alien version, this thing’s only about two to three inches larger in diameter than the central column. And the column was made out of a glass-like substance, just like the materials used in the ARV.

2 ARV 9ft Disk

It was sitting in a pit in the middle of a circular room, and the perimeter of the room was kind of a walkway with a railing at its edge.

But she said that when she looked down into the pit and across the far side, she could see that beneath the floor was this glass-like substance with these coils embedded, just like the ring of coils around the crew apartment in the ARV.

3 ARV Coils

But the thing that was most fascinating about her description was that in the central column, with the little disk at the bottom spinning in one direction, the column itself spinning in the opposite direction, that there was a silvery metallic-like fluid that was inside this column that she could see under the glass.

And it had these little flecks, shiny flecks and dark flecks of material that were sort of swirling around, but she said you could see the turbulence pattern in the liquid.

And the turbulence pattern looked like a series of five little tornadoes that were spiraling up around the inside of this column.

What she was witnessing is very much like what you see when you get an F5 tornado. You have the big one in the middle that’s going 150 miles an hour. It’s tearing up everything in sight.

And then a lot of times what you’ll get is a series of smaller tornadoes that are rotating in the opposite direction, almost just like a planetary gear drive. And they’re orbiting the main one in the middle.

And the turbulence pattern that she was seeing in this column looked just like what you would see in those little sister tornadoes that would orbit an F5.

And so that told me that inside this column was a shearing effect, where two things are moving past one another like that, which means that there’s another cylinder on the inside moving in one direction. And then there’s a cylinder on the outside moving in the opposite direction.

And that shearing effect is what was creating these like miniature tornado-type structures on the inside.

So then, the fluid itself can be seen moving upward. So that begs the question, okay, where is it going?

Well, if it’s a closed loop system – and this sort of fills out some of the details of the Die Glocke, the Bell – is that if the fluid is moving upward, then it has to be coming back down somewhere.

4 Screen Shot Die Glocke 1

4 Screen Shot Die Glocke 2

4 Screen Shot Die Glocke 3

And the answer is it’s coming down through the middle. So it’s a closed loop. It goes up through the edges between the two cylinders and then down through the middle.

And if you’re having this tremendously powerful electrical discharge that fires through that liquid, and it’s done in just the right way – if you shape different parts of the system in such a way that it’s like a venturi, like a funnel at the top – when you fire electricity down through the center of that funnel – because you have a ring shaped electrode and then a cone shaped electrode in the middle – you get what amounts to an artificial ball lightening.

Ball lightning has been modeled as a torus, as a donut shape, in the laboratory. They’ve done this.

And what happens when you create this kind of an event with high voltages, is in this donut shaped event, you have the ions that are not only moving around the perimeter of this donut shape, but they’re also moving in and out, precessing around the perimeter of this donut shape.

5 Screen Shot Torus

And they create a powerful electromagnetic field.

So what you have in this device is an electoral discharge that creates what amounts to a smoke ring of ions that shoot down through the column. The outer edges are basically stroking through the whiskers of this electrode and giving off all the power that’s essentially being drawn out of the vacuum of space-time.

And that’s how they’re drawing the zero point energy out of the vacuum – is with this system.

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David: Well, that’s remarkably technical. And all kinds of lights are flashing in my head as we listen to him say these things, because you are one of the people who’ve mentioned a mercury-based propulsion system.

But given how many specifics he said, and that you’ve never actually spoken to him before, how much truth is there in what he’s saying based on what you know here?

Corey: He’s explaining it way better than I ever could. And they . . . I guess in the beginning, we tried using mercury, but they have engineered other gallium metals that are basically liquid metals that conduct electricity much better, and when being exposed to high electrical fields, don’t turn to gold, which is what was occurring when we were trying to use mercury. And I’ve talked about that in depth in the past.

David: So the essential idea that there is a crystalline-looking tube or waveguide in the middle, and that the mercury or whatever liquid metal is spinning is inside that central tube, and that there’s this counter-rotating smaller vortexes outside the larger one, all of that seems true?

Corey: Yes, it’s . . . And the donut shapes that go down or up depending on the polarity of . . . that its’ . . . which way the plates are spinning. The liquid travels up and then down through the tube and back down through the system.

David: When you say donut shape, are you saying it’s a donut vortex in the liquid that you see?

Corey: Yes, it’s like a . . . You can see them going up, you know, one after another. And they’re spaced out perfectly from each other.

David: When he says ball lightning is formed in the center, does that mean there’s some sort of visible, glowing sphere in the center of the tube, or . . .

Corey: He was saying something akin to ball lightning. He was describing these donut-shaped vortices that were coming up.

David: Oh. So do they have a luminosity to them, a light?

Corey: No, it looked like liquid . . . just looked like liquid metal being pushed around with eddies of the same liquid metal within it. You could tell different vortexes.

David: Now, this event that this woman had was being described as an extraterrestrial abduction. Do you think, in light of what we now know, that this might have been from the space program using programmable lifeforms and that sort of thing, given how similar it is to sort of like a more advanced version of the German technology you’ve described?

Corey: This sounds nonterrestrial to me. A lot of . . . He was describing we had like 9-foot plates, that they had 11-inch plates that would suffice or do the same function, perform the same function.

David: Right.

Corey: And it has to do with how much more advanced they are than us in the material sciences. So they can create a superconductive plate that puts out or handles the same amount of electricity as we do, but they can do it with a much smaller surface area.

David: Why do you think he said there were some black flecks in this material? Wouldn’t the material conduct the best if it was a uniform substance or could there be that maybe it levels out the charge with certain particles in certain places by having them distributed like that? What do you think?

Corey: Yeah, that would be a good explanation, that it helps distribute the charge.

David: How common is it for extraterrestrial groups to use this sort of waveguide and liquid metal type of propulsion system where the waveguide is like a tube that you can actually see in the middle of the craft?

Corey: I believe that is fairly common. And it’s one of the methods that some of the less advanced groups use. There are much more advanced temporal drives and other types of propulsion systems that are much more advanced than this.

But when you have nonterrestrials . . . When you think of nonterrestrials in the universe, they’re at different levels of technological development themselves.

And it is also not unusual to hear about an abductee getting a tour. I’ve read information about them getting tours, being shown equipment, being shown star maps, being given other information. So that’s not unusual either.

David: All right. Next up we have Mark McCandlish talking about a very unusual crash story. Let’s check it out.

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Mark McCandlish: I was at a little web cafe or Internet cafe using a computer because my computer had been hacked, so I was borrowing their computer.

And I’m busy checking my email, and off to the side I can hear this conversation going on between two people who are talking about magnetic ferrofluids – oil-based fluids. They have lots of metallic particles that react to magnetism because they have iron.

And they were speculating about whether it had anything to do with a propulsion system.

And so my ear, my attention kind of picked up a little bit. And the guy was talking about a crash in a vehicle, and I was all, “What are you guys talking about?”

“Oh, we can’t talk about it.”

I said, “Well, okay, let me tell you what I know, and then if you think that it’s interesting enough for you, you can tell me what you know.”

Well, one of these two guys had been in the Army. He was . . . Apparently, he had been part of a crew, a group, a unit, that had just been formed. It wasn’t even on the books, yet.

And it turns out later that’s how I found out this is how they conduct a lot of these classified operations is that they create a unit, but before it’s ever on the books, before it ever becomes part of the historical record, there are already people operating in that unit. They go out and perform a mission, maybe a couple of missions, and then afterwards, then everything’s on the books in terms of the existence of the unit.

But prior to that time, there’s no access by the Freedom of Information Act at all, because it officially never existed. And that’s what this unit was.

And right at the end of the Cold War, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, and there was a lot of talk of the reunification of East and West Germany, there were double agents – people working for the United States intelligence community that were inside the East German government.

And the assignment that this young man was a part of was to go in, do an insertion into East Germany – you know, all nap-of-the-earth, below the radar, literally – and to collect some of the people that were operating on the inside as double agents because they were really worried that these people might be killed once the government started to collapse.

And they were in the midst of that mission – going to a pickup point to collect one of these individuals – when they were redirected to this crash site.

The vehicle itself . . . And I don’t know what the vehicle’s called, but I can describe it for you.

Imagine a big, black arrowhead with the blunt end here [leaving one hand by his face] and the long pointy end over here [his other hand is stretched out about two feet].

6 East German Flying Triangle

Except that when this thing flew through the air, it flew with the blunt end forward.

It had a cockpit that looked an awful lot like the cockpit on the F-117A stealth fighter with the little sawtooth edges around the windows. And the edge of the canopy had the same kind of sawtooth cutting in the architecture of the vehicle.

7 F 117A

If viewed from head on, it would look like a triangle. From the side, it would look like a pyramid that had been stretched out on one of its three corners.

And then under each of the front corners was about a 2½, or maybe about 24~30” diameter white sphere embedded up in the body of the vehicle at each corner in the front.

8 3D Illustration 1

And then about 2/3rds of the way back, on the long point end, there was a third sphere.

8a 3D Illustration 2

9 3D Illustration 3

The spheres were held in place by a three pronged clasp, almost like the setting of a pearl in a ring, that was silver, that looked as though it could be articulated and pointed in different directions for perhaps steering control of the vehicle.

By the time he arrived, as part of this salvage operation, there were a couple of technicians with white lab coats, the whole nine yards, taking important components out of the cockpit. They were taking components out, and those were being carried away to somewhere else.

The vehicle had crashed because the pilot was flying some kind of a surveillance mission, was flying nap-of-the-earth using this system, came up through a valley about 10 kilometers southwest of the city of Halle, H-A-L-L-E, in East Germany.

And he came up over a ridge, and he clipped the top of a large pine tree with the left front corner of the vehicle and basically sheared off the corner, crushed the sphere that was at that corner.

And the vehicle immediately began to dive to the left and downward because of the loss of that support, whatever the propulsive mechanism was.

And so in an attempt to not crash, he tried to bank it as far to the right as he could, and he pulled the nose up, and it impacted the hill side anyway. It hit tail first.

And when it did . . . When it hit tail first, it cracked open the structure of the fuselage where that third sphere was in the long pointy end.

10 Drawing Of Crash

And that sphere basically began floating off and was floating around the hill side when they arrived.

11 3D Illustration Of Crash Site With Sphere

And the three-pronged retainer had come off, but the sphere itself was pretty much intact. He described it as looking like a white, ceramic pumpkin with the vertical striations like you’d see in a pumpkin.

But then each of the individual striations had a scalloping, almost like the terracotta tiles on a missionary-style piece of architecture.

12 Drawing Of Sphere

So it had this kind of . . . And it looked like the shape was designed to create turbulence patterns on the inside of the vessel.

At the very top was an electrical carry through, metal in color, like a brushed aluminum color, with a number of wires coming out of it.

13 2nd Screen Shot Of Sphere At Crash Site

Now, he described this thing as sort of bobbing around, just a few inches above the surface of the ground, and every once in a while, it would begin to spin rapidly and sort of bobbing around.

And it would get a little bit higher off the ground, and then there’d be an electrical discharge between a couple of the wires coming out of this thing, and then it would sort of calm down and settle down again.

And so they were tasked with capturing this sphere. And the object would periodically make this little bit energetic dance, and so they had to kind of time it so they captured it at a moment where it wasn’t too energized.

And they had one of these large, utility-yellow, aluminum carrying cases the military is notorious for using, with a piano hinge along one side and the turnbuckles on the other. You know, you bring it together and lock it up real tight.

And so when they walked up with this thing like this [Mark has the backs of his hands together and his hands spread out] to try and close around it, and the aluminum was apparently reflecting a magnetic field that was created by this object.

And so when they would try to approach it, it would just sort of wander away. It would be repelled by the aluminum.

So then what they came up with is they took the lid off of this thing by undoing the . . . sliding the piano hinge and disengaging the pins. They slid the lid underneath this thing. And then they brought the bottom half of the case down over the top of it, engaged the hinge, closed the turnbuckles, and then they let go of the case.

And the case went “poof” [turning his hand up straight indicating fast movement] and stood up on end like a gravestone. It was really spooky from what they said.

But they brought in – and this is really pretty fantastic – they brought in a CH53 Super Stallion with a very long – at least a 100′ long – synthetic lanyard that they hooked this container on.

14 CH53 Super Stallion

Apparently, it was so powerful in terms of the magnetic fields it was producing, they were worried that it was going to screw up the avionics on the helicopter, and they booked out of there.

There were Navy SEALs with pea coats, the nightwatchman cap. They had the M-16s with the under and over grenade launchers.

They had two Cobra helicopters, fully armed with the missiles and the whole nine yards, orbiting the site.

15 Cobra Helicopter

And they collected as much debris as they could. It was carried off to a vehicle that was on a roadway not too far away.

And then they put thermite grenades into what was left of the fuselage and burned it down to nothing.

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David: I didn’t even realize that anybody had ever gotten such a close description of what you call a Dart. How close does that look to what you’ve been saying you were getting picked up with at your house?

Corey: Well, we’ve recently had an image of the Dart produced.

16 Dart 1

17 Dart 2

David: This is an astonishing connection. Just . . . They’re so similar in how they look that I’m wondering if there are any differences, or if it’s just that maybe your illustrator didn’t quite have the ability to capture every nuance.

Corey: He didn’t catch every nuance, but it is very close. This sounds like an early precursor to what we’re calling the Dart now, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . because it has a crew – the crew cabin – there are for two people. There are seats for two people.

18 Dart 3

And in the back, there are seats for three people.

19 Dart 4

David: Right.

Corey: And no real . . .

David: In the Dart that you were on?

Corey: In the Dart that I was on.

David: Right.

Corey: And there were also these red or maroon like domes, three of them that hang from the bottom. And I had wondered why when I’d asked, what’s – it was small – what propels the craft? What makes it work? And they would tell me that they have disco balls in them.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: And I thought they were just screwing with me, but after seeing this orb that was floating around and how it was described, that could be very well what they were referring to.

David: Wow!

Corey: And that just hit me when I was watching that footage.

David: So even for you, you’re getting surprised and learning some new things here.

Corey: Yes. And how he described from the front and the top, it looks like a triangle, and I had described it looks like a pyramid. It’s built up like a pyramid from the side. That’s exactly how it looks.

20 Dart 5

David: Do you think that the Dart will be one of the more commonly used craft in a post-disclosure world, that we will see a lot of these?

Corey: Different variations of it, yes.

David: One of the things I noticed that happened while we were watching this is that you had visible shock, or at least surprise, when he was describing Germany before the collapse of the Berlin Wall, and the idea that an American helicopter would have been able to go in there to do a crash retrieval operation.

So what was your reaction based on here?

Corey: I think that pretty much proves collaboration at the highest levels between the Soviet Union and the West during that time.

David: Ah!

Corey: Because there is . . . Anyone that lived during that time period would know that there is no way we’d be able to fly, especially air assets, into East Germany during that time period. They would be taken down quickly.

They had air defenses everywhere. It would have been . . . I think it would have been impossible to get air assets in there without collaboration between the United States and the Soviet Union up on the top level, where the Secret Space Program is being discussed.

David: One of my original insiders described having to transport 26 boxes of highly sensitive documents for a friend of his who was a high level Mason. And they had to do it very quickly in one night because there was a security breach.

And as a gratuity for risking his life to do this, he was able to open one of the boxes. And what he said, among several fascinating things that I’ve talked about before, is that he saw a document that was from the United States that apparently was given to every country in the world.

And they were told, “If a UFO crashes in your country, let us handle it because biological material could come out, radioactivity could come out, all these kind of things.”

Do you think that that document is, in fact, true? And do you think that this is something that the U.S. generally handles wherever it happens?

Corey: The U.S. handles it, but the Soviets also have a great response group. I believe we called it . . . At least in the Army, it was called Pounce, Operation Pounce. For any foreign materials that would fall to Earth, they would go and recover them.

So the Americans would go in and recover materials in foreign countries. And usually the foreign countries would let us know, not just because they were scared and took our word for it, but there had been incidents, such as in Mexico. In the Zone of Silence, there was a UFO that crashed and they sent in American Pounce teams in full NBC gear to recover the craft. And when they did, there were, I believe, Mexican military that had died from exposure to the technology.

David: Now, you mentioned one of the five factions of the space program was the Global Galactic League of Nations. Do you think that the world leaders who are essentially told at gunpoint to give up these very valuable artifacts crashing in their country, that them being taken up to some kind of space base, is like a gratuity to keep them quiet, keep them happy, like they’re inside something?

Corey: Yes, that’s why that particular program was set up was to give other countries that know about the space program a seat at the table and also a way to keep them quiet about it, keep them from announcing it.

David: All right. Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode. It’s absolutely fascinating stuff. Every hair on my arms was standing up when I saw that image of the Dart pop in front of me just now.

And Corey, you just nodded your head.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So it’s really astonishing to work on this for so many years and to see completely isolated sources give you almost exactly the same stuff. That’s where real disclosure starts to happen.

And it only happens right here on “Cosmic Disclosure”, bringing you the tip of the spear for Full Disclosure. Thanks for watching, and we’ll see you next time.

Cosmic Disclosure: Boyd Bushman’s Deathbed Testimonial

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode, our insider’s insider. And in this episode, we have some rare footage from a now deceased insider from Lockheed Martin, none other than Boyd Bushman.

So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: All right. So here’s our first excerpt of an interview that we did not shoot with Boyd Bushman, but is public domain, fair use on the Internet. And given the importance and what we talk about on this show, it’s well worth watching. Let’s check it out.

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Boyd Bushman: My name is Boyd Bushman. I’m a senior scientist from Lockheed Martin. I have 27 patents.

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Approximately 13 years ago, I ran across a person who had been given a job by Dr. Teller.

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Dr. Teller was Oppenheimer’s right-hand man.

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And even after Oppenheimer was thrown out of Area 51, Dr. Teller stayed there and was in charge of several programs.

The person that I contact twice to three times per month is the head of that program now, and they continually update me on everything they possibly can. I do have a top secret clearance.

I choose, however, for their purposes, not to use it because they – the intelligent ones of me and me – actually believe that a great deal of information should be lifted up from those dark recesses of Area 51 and moved over so people can see it.

So that’s what began about 13 years ago.

Since I am a scientist, I do not believe in theory. I basically, say, “Follow the data; theory be damned.” If something can’t verify by a physical test that something is true, then I do not care to accept it in that [information] that I present.

Therefore, everything we present here will be data that comes directly from them, through me, to you.

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David: He’s talking about the idea that Teller was working with a group of insiders and that they now want to disclose the truth. So is this something that happens fairly often in these classified programs, that people actually do want to get the information out?

Corey: Yes, it’s fairly common. And whoever is doing security of these groups know that. They’ve done personality profiles on these people. They watch them very closely. They’re watching for body language, different micro facial expressions. They’re watching them very closely to know whether they need to step in.

So a lot of the times, these guys will usually have these conversations, you know, at a Sunday cookout and sit around and talk about it instead of talking about it at work.

And eventually, they end up getting found out, for the most part. It’s very rare that they don’t find out that they’re talking about it “outside of the office”, as they say.

David: He said in there, “I have a top secret clearance, but I don’t choose to use it.” What do you think he meant by that?

Corey: If you go in and work under a top security clearance, you’re bound, legally, by everything you agreed to when you signed the agreement for the security clearance.

So if he’s trying to work, he’s trying to skirt the security clearance and any retributions that may happen legally or with his pension. So he’s playing kind of a little game.

David: Now, when this interview came out, as I’m sure you remember, it lit up even the mainstream media like a wildfire. There were a lot of articles that were written about this, covering this guy.

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So that, to me, suggests that he is not working as some rogue, but that what he’s doing here was perhaps part of an orchestrated plan. Do you think that’s true?

Corey: Well, it very well could be, because the groups that I was describing prior, the ones that don’t get caught, are the ones that find like-minded people in security that turn a blind eye to the talk.

These are the types of people that really got this SSP Alliance rolling.

David: Right.

Corey: You know? That’s how it got rolling.

David: What would be the objective of articles about this man and what he’s going to say as we go through this episode, being released to the public?

He does seem to have the credibility. He says he works for Lockheed. We’re going to see some pictures of extraterrestrials, allegedly.

What would be the ultimate endgame of promoting these videos and his testimony in front of the whole world?

Corey: Well, the Alliance anyway, and as well as the – whoever we want to name – the shadow government, they’ve been seeding the consciousness of humanity through movies and, you know, comic books, people giving deathbed statements like this.

So they kind of want to – in a way that they can distance themselves from or deny – deliver this information in bits and pieces to our subconscious.

David: He said that he worked for Lockheed, and he has 27 patents.

Corey: That should be easy to verify, unless they’re . . .

David: That’s what I’m thinking.

Corey: . . . one of the 5,700 classified patents.

David: Now, the reason why I bring this up is, can you verify that these patents might be held under national security, and therefore we might not be able to find them because they could be classified technology?

Or might there be enough things Lockheed is doing that are unclassified that at least some of those patents could be tracked down?

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Corey: Yeah. A good deal of their patents are unclassified, but the most sensitive ones end up being among that 5,700 or so patents that are classified to this day.

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David: So then, if someone is trying to fact-check this, they might find some patents. They might not find all 27, but it’s likely that at least some of these should be able to be tracked down.

Corey: Yes.

David: Many of these insiders, such as William Tompkins, and people he’s spoken to, are told that, “Oh, just calm down. You know, the things that you’re working on, we’re going to release it in 10 years.”

Then 10 years go by, nothing happens.

How does that influence what we’re seeing now with this guy coming forward, when he’s been told by the doctor that he might only have weeks to live?

Corey: Well, that is very common, telling them “a decade – it’s a decade away”. That was told to a lot of people in the programs that I was in.

David: Really?

Corey: A lot of them who had a conscience wanted to know when is this information going to be given to the public? And they also wanted credit for what they’ve been doing. They want the public to know what they’ve been doing.

David: Sure.

Corey: And they were told that, “You’ll be a hero someday. Everyone will know 10 years from now.” And they keep kicking the can, and a lot of these people become very disillusioned and become ripe to become members of the Alliance.

David: How is the Alliance able to contact people in this position without getting outed if there’s so much surveillance? How are they able to do it?

Corey: It’s usually people that are friendly within the security apparatus of these different groups. That’s usually . . . If you want to start some sort of subversion, you need to first infiltrate security or police.

David: So you’re saying it would then happen as a verbal conversation with, like, somebody who’s allegedly a security guard?

Corey: Oh, yeah. Only mouth to mouth. You know, mouth to ear, mouth to ear.

David: Is it possible for people to send letters to each other? I heard recently, that the U.S. post offices, they might not read your letters, but they are now scanning everybody’s mail and seeing who you’re sending mail to.

Corey: No, it’s not advised to have anything in writing. You know . . .

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. You pass information down the chain, which can be unreliable, kind of like the telephone game. It goes through different people’s filters, and then they kind of tweak it a little bit, but you don’t want to have anything written.

David: When we were talking before the show about some of the validation that’s now showed up recently for Boyd Bushman, it seems that it comes out of this Vault 7 leak recently that took place.

So for those who have not been actively paying attention to that, since it did seem to go by pretty fast in the media, could you explain for us what the Vault 7 story is and how it relates to Disclosure?

Corey: Yes. Vault 7 was a data dump done by WikiLeaks on the CIA.

David: And my understanding is that there’s 8,700 documents in this Vault 7.

Corey: That’s a very large dump.

David: Yeah. The thing that shocked me the most was when WikiLeaks came out with this and said that 99% of the stories that there are to be found in there have not yet been made public. And we had Drudge Report calling this another Snowden.

What would be the purpose of releasing information from classified CIA documents? And how does that relate to Disclosure?

Corey: They released a lot of names in this Vault 7 data dump, and a lot of these names are people that are civilians who have been tracked by the CIA.

David: So Boyd Bushman is in the Vault 7 leaks.

Corey: Yes.

David: And they were watching him and keeping him under surveillance.

Corey: This was a list of civilians who have been surveilled by the CIA.

David: If the NSA is our National Security Agency, which is really national surveillance agency, and that’s what they do, why the heck does the CIA need to be doing the exact same stuff but under their own umbrella? That’s not going to make sense to most people.

Corey: A lot of these organizations are not completely connected when it comes to data. They’re not necessarily all pulling from the same haystack.

They’ll have their own haystacks of information. And it is redundant, but these groups aren’t fully . . . These groups aren’t fully sharing between each other. They go through kind of a committee to share information with each other.

David: One of the things that just came out about Vault 7 was a leak from the highest levels that no one is allowed to work with each other in the CIA for more than three years because they’re so worried about individual people on a team starting to form their own little factions.

Corey: Collusion, yes.

David: Do you think that’s partly the Alliance and how they’re trying to stop the Alliance from being able to grow?

Corey: That’s how they’re trying to prevent any type of coordinated effort against them.

David: Exactly. All right. Now, let’s see the next very interesting piece of the interview done with Boyd Bushman, his deathbed confessional, Lockheed Martin insider. Check it out.

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Boyd Bushman: I asked them to tell me about who was flying these things. He, therefore, said, “Fine. They’re approximately 5′, 4½’ to 5′ tall.”

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They had one or two of them around that were 230 years old. And we have a total of at least 18 that exist and operate with our facility as Teller set it up.

And notice the eyes are different, nose are different, but they do have five fingers, five toes, two eyes.

And rather strangely enough, I asked him how they communicate. He says, “Well, it’s like this, Boyd. You all of a sudden have a question in your mind. You walk into a room with one of them, and all of a sudden, you find yourself giving the answer to your question in your own voice. They’re able to use your own voice by telepathy to talk to you.”

And I said, “Fine.”

Now, that’s how they look from front, but when you turn around and look at the back, it’s like that.

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Now, notice that they have three back bones. They’re actually cartilage. Nevertheless, it’s a much more efficient system than ours.

They also have three ribs in their system, rather than more. This is also the back side of an alien.

Here’s a 45° look.

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And, now when we talk about aliens, I pushed the issue, and he said, “Well, there’s kind of two groups of aliens.” They divided them into two groups. One group he calls . . . it’s like you have a ranch. And you have a ranch, and you find that one group are your wranglers that know how to wrangle your cattle.

There are others who are rustlers, ones that steal your cattle.

And indeed, the two groups do act differently. The ones that are wranglers are much more friendly and have a better relationship with us.

Here’s the other side of the alien, too.

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Now, also notice that their feet, where they have five toes, the toes are joined together like a frog, yet they are dissimilar.

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And this is the home planet that they come from, which they call Quintumnia.

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And notice that the hand . . . that’s an alien hand.

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Notice that the fingers are longer than ours by quite a bit, about 30% longer, and that’s just the way they’re put together.

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David: Well obviously, there’s a lot of very interesting stuff we can talk about in this one excerpt alone.

One of the things that he said, that I think even the people writing the articles didn’t really catch, was he mentioned the number 18.

And it sounded to me very much like when he said that there were at least 18, that he was talking about different types of extraterrestrials.

That’s a much smaller number than what you were aware of. However, would someone maybe just working as an engineer for Lockheed only be given a number around that size as part of this compartmentalized security?

Corey: Yes. And he most likely found out about the majority of them towards the end of the time he spent as an engineer or after.

They usually let you know of three, maybe eight, different types, depending on what technology you’re reverse engineering, what technology you’re studying.

They’re not going to let you know more than you “need to know”.

David: Let’s just say that one of those guys is watching our show, and maybe you can show him that there might be more than he thinks he knows. So what might those three to eight groups be? What would he have been told, necessarily?

I mean, they could change but . . .

Corey: Oh, yeah, it could change. Some of them know about Reptilians, but some of them don’t.

David: Okay.

Corey: It’s interesting. Some of them have been told about this Eben-type group.

David: Okay. Which would be what?

Corey: Some people associate them with the Greys, but they look very fleshy. They’re bipedal, fleshy beings. You know, their eyeballs aren’t black unless they have lenses in.

Then you have these Nordic groups.

David: Okay.

Corey: Mostly, they’ll know about that, or the Tall Whites. But for the most part, they’ll know about those. And some of them seem to know about the Reptilians, but some of them don’t.

David: Now, there’s going to be controversy right up front with the Boyd Bushman stuff because all these kids on the Internet thought that they win the Nobel Prize for discovering that this ET picture that he’s holding up was actually just a photo of a toy from Walmart.

Corey: Right.

David: The toy from 2008 looks exactly the same as the pictures that he’s holding up now.

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So many people on the Internet have tried to – as the skeptical debunkers – think that this guy literally just took a toy and took pictures of it. How do you answer that?

Corey: There is the possibility that this toy was released in a limited edition to preempt any disclosures of this type of alien.

Now, I’ve mentioned to you in private, I believe, that I’ve seen these types of beings, and I’ve seen them alive.

David: Right.

Corey: And they were referred to as “Oranges”. And when they were alive, their skin color was sort of carrot-colored, but it was darker – carrot-colored with a little brownish, I guess. But they called them “Oranges”.

And they were very positive beings. When they’re alive, if you’ve ever had a pet bird or seen a bird that has died, their eyes recess into their head quite a bit.

David: Right.

Corey: And when they’re alive, their eyes are out from the head. And then the little wrinkly areas under the eyes and above their eyes, they’re very, very . . . in the eyes, the energy’s very pleasant.

David: Mmm.

Corey: And their eyes articulate around quite a bit, and you see the wrinkles that go under the eyes and around the eyes push out and move around as the eyes are kind of out from the head a little bit – barely.

David: So you’re saying that the Orange has a much different look when it’s alive than what this desiccated corpse is.

Corey: Right. They have been here to try to assist us. I guess they would be one of the wranglers.

David: That he mentioned.

Corey: That he mentioned. They’ve been here trying to help manage us, manage the planet, you know, sort of like watchers.

David: Some people who are not very well informed would say that any type of ET that looks like this is a Grey, and that it is abducting people and torturing them and putting probes in them and implants in them. How do you answer that in terms of what you’re saying these guys are doing?

Corey: Well, there are a number of beings out there that have loosely the same description as these Greys.

David: Right.

Corey: So there’s a lot of confusion. You know, there’s even a Reptilian-type species that has the same body configuration and sort of look that these Greys have.

And in the rehab, the people that had had contact with these beings, the military would reabduct them, and a lot of times the people would tell them that they were Greys because they had seen so many different TV shows, and they’ve seen that outline image of the Grey so many times that they try to connect them all together because they look similar.

David: You also mentioned that guys at a lower level of security clearance, who were still nonetheless Top Secret, would be told about Nordics. We’ve discussed Nordics living inside the Earth.

What would the typical boiler plate, lower level disclosure of Nordics involve? What would they be told they are? Where do they come from? What are they doing?

Corey: Well, not all Nordic beings come from Inner Earth.

David: Right.

Corey: Some of them actually come from other stars and have been in a millennial-long battle with the Reptilians and have had skirmishes with other beings and civilizations, as well.

There has been a galactic war – if not intergalactic war – that’s ebbed and flowed and happened in history, way back before humanity even existed.

David: So that material science guy working at Lockheed Martin, working on surface texture, whatever, that kind of stuff, okay, what is he told about Nordics based on what you just said? How much might he know?

Corey: It just depends on his need to know. Whatever technology he’s working on, he only needs to know what he needs to know to interface with the beings or to know that it’s associated with a certain being, to have an idea of what type of approach was taken to the technology development on their planet.

Other than that, unless he’s worked multiple programs and got to know of multiple ETs, he’s just going to know of what they tell him for what he needs to know on his job.

David: He mentioned something about cartilage being the way that the bones are made, and that they only had three ribs, and that there was an unusual structure in their back.

Are there some ETs that have more of a cartilage skeleton instead of a bones skeleton like ours?

Corey: Yes, a cartilage-like skeleton, but a lot of them are not . . . the whole skeleton is not cartilage. They just have features. Like we have cartilage in our nose.

David: Right.

Corey: They might have different protrusions or other things that are something similar that was a part of whatever they were before they evolved, like the webbed fingers.

David: Now, he mentioned something strange about telepathy, which was that not only do you experience telepathic communication as soon as you walk into the room with these beings, but that you hear it as if it was your own voice speaking to you.

What are your thoughts on that?

Corey: That’s exactly how it occurs. And it’ll make you wonder when you’re having ideas and thoughts, where are they coming from? You know, it could be another source outside of yourself.

But, yes, the communications I have, everyone has that one voice that they sort of process hearing in their internal monologue. That’s the same voice you hear them communicating with you.

And you also get images, smells, tastes, depending on the being.

David: He also mentioned that these beings had a planet of origin that he called Quintumnia. I’m curious if you ever got into enough of a dialogue with these Oranges, as you called them, to hear anything like that, or if there are, in fact, names of planet and things like this that pop up sometimes.

Corey: Yes. They will give names of their planet, which is obviously from their location. It’s not some sort of English translation of where they’re from. This very well could be the name that they have given to their planet. That’s the first time I’ve heard it.

David: So if he’s saying that he was made aware in briefings, it appears that he was made aware of 18 groups at least, and he’s saying that they neatly divide into two major categories.

Category one: wranglers. Category number two: rustlers, which would actually be those who steal your cattle.

Corey: Right.

David: This sounds an awful lot like the galactic slave trade you’ve mentioned. So I’m curious about your thoughts when you saw that part of the video.

Corey: That’s correct. And during the time that he was getting his briefings, most likely a lot of that was going on heavily before we had developed the Secret Space Program far along enough to where we could, I guess, warden – Solar Warden – our own territory.

But yes, they would come in and scoop people all the time, and then shoot out of our Solar System real quickly. And even the nonterrestrials that were monitoring things, it sometimes would happen so fast that they couldn’t respond.

David: How long do you think people in the United States’ defense establishment were aware of this going on before they had the technological means to stop it?

Corey: They’ve been . . . Since the inception of an intelligence community, they’ve known.

David: And when did they gain the capability to stop this from happening?

Corey: That would have been probably in the early ’80s that they would have been able to show enough force to stop it from occurring consistently.

David: All right, our next section of Boyd Bushman’s interview is coming up right now with a lot more fascinating information. Let’s take a look.

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Boyd Bushman: I do, because of some very good reasons, keep things within control, but I don’t want us all behind the Russians and Chinese. And the problem I have is that Area 51 is working with both the Russians and Chinese right now trying to make UFOs.

There’s been a total of 39 United States citizens that have lost their lives, trying to reverse engineer UFOs.

And, well, the last one I heard of was a year and a half ago, where we lost 19 lives in one test. They actually wanted to bring various flying craft near the UFO, and the UFO defended itself, and 19 of our people died.

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David: How do you think it would have felt to somebody like Boyd Bushman, working probably during the Cold War obviously, and then knowing that Russians and Chinese are actually jointly working with the US at Area 51?

Corey: The people that were fighting the Cold War, so to speak, were heavily indoctrinated in the anti-Russia mentality. That’s what drove them in doing their engineering was keeping America safe from any type of nuclear exchange with Russia.

David: Well, China wasn’t as much of a . . . It wasn’t considered as much of a threat in the ’80s as it is now, but why would China be at Area 51? What’s really going on here?

Corey: We got to a certain point in our Secret Space Program to where we couldn’t hide it from the other technologically evolved nations. They were tracking us.

So not only did we have this Global Galactic League of Nations that was set up, but in . . . I can’t remember the time period, but I think it was in the ’90s, some sort of an agreement was signed between these powers that they would share technology.

They’re exchanging scientists to make sure there’s a continuity of technical information going to all of the different groups. It assures that they’re all sharing what they have.

David: What would the purpose be for apparently being in a nuclear showdown with Russia in the world but then very nicely collaborating with them at Area 51? Why would there be such a division?

Corey: Well, the collaboration with the Russians during the height of the Cold War openly in these bases was . . . you didn’t see it that much. It was towards the end of the Cold War, most of it after the Cold War, when we started making agreements with China and Russia and India and some of these other groups.

And we also have people from India and a couple of other nations that we work closely with and share technology with, because we found out that they were getting pretty far in their development, as well.

So sharing this information is also a way of managing it if you have agreements between all of these different nations.

David: Now, he mentioned 39 people losing their lives in the course of working on UFOs, but then he also said 19 people died when they flew with conventional flying craft towards a UFO in the sky, and it apparently defended itself.

Let’s break these things down. So, first of all, the number 39, based on all the stuff that is really known, seems very, very small.

Corey: He could have been just quickly passing over without giving much detail. It could have been 39 Lockheed employees that have worked on these programs that he knows about.

David: Right. Wouldn’t you think, though, that the total number of people who lost their lives trying to back engineer UFOs would be a lot higher than 39?

Corey: Absolutely. There have just . . . We’ve lost a lot of lives just retrieving the craft before we’re able to begin reverse engineering them.

David: Wow!

Corey: So, yeah. Lots of lives have been lost retrieving them, reverse engineering them. And then we have back during the German Secret Space Program when they developed it, we had a lot of Germans dying in the process, a lot of scientists dying producing these technologies, not to mention all of the slave labor they had.

David: All right. In our final section of the interview footage from Boyd Bushman, we have a very interesting Roswell-like incident that he tells us about.

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Boyd Bushman: Turned out to be a doctor. He was a very, very fine gentleman, and I was carrying on a conversation with him. He saw how the subject was going, so he simply said, “Well, you need to know what I did one day.”

And I said, “Okay.”

He said, “I was in the process of doctoring a pilot who was a test pilot, Navy test pilot, for the United States government, and it was 1947.”

He basically told me that he was . . . that “they, the radar group, had found a blip out over New Mexico, and that they would like to assign me to go out and check it out.”

So he says, “Fine. I’ll do that.” And he got the fastest airplane that existed then, which was a propeller at that time. And it was fully armed and all the rest of those things.

He was out flying, and he found the item, and he immediately communicated back, and he said, “I wish authority . . . First of all, I want you to tell me, are there any other airplanes flying? Are there commercial or anything else around other than he and I?”

They said, “Just the two of you.”

And he said, “Fine. Second thing I wanted to know is do I have authority to shoot it down?”

They said, “Why do you want authority to shoot it down?”

He says, “Because I am flying the fastest thing that the United States can make, and he’s beginning to leave me. Therefore, I know he’s either a friend or an enemy, and if he’s leaving me, he’s an enemy. Therefore, I wish authority to shoot it down.”

The commander said, “Fine.” He granted him authority.

He pulled in. He shot him down. It came down.

He flew past and saw that there was a road on the one side of the fenced area. He came down and landed his airplane. Hard to do, but he did. And then he cut across the fence.

One of them . . . The door was open. One of them was out, walking around, but he didn’t care about that. He cared about what the vehicle was.

So he went over, and rather strangely enough, when he ducked down – because they’re only 5′ high – he saw that he could see through the walls. Not only that, but as he stepped in, the floor was spongy.

He look at the three that were there, and they were dead. He knew they were. He’d killed them. But he also knew that the military would come, and he’d put up with those guys for a long time.

So he went over, went back across the barbed wire fence, got in his airplane and took off.

When I got up with my contacts in Area 51, I brought up that story, and they said, “Well, that’s totally true, but we can’t say it. You can.”

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David: All right. So this is clearly a story that gives us detail into the fact that there are vulnerabilities to these ETs. They are not necessarily like the Battle of Los Angeles, where this thing’s got a shield around itself as our military is firing at it and nothing seems to have happened to it.

Some of these craft, apparently, can be shot down. Is that, in fact, true?

Corey: Yes. And if you catch them at different stages in their flight – and I don’t know what those stages are – they are vulnerable to high energy, disruptive weapons. Like they said, the radar may have taken down the Roswell craft.

So a lot of these can be taken down with high energy weapons. It’s rare that you hear of them taken down with a kinetic weapon.

I don’t know if a missile was used. It sounds like it might have been hot lead that took them down.

David: Right.

Corey: So that would be a very rare occasion. I would be speculating why they were able to not only get that close to get within range of this craft to be able to shoot without them taking evasive maneuvers.

So I’d have to speculate what was going on at the time with the nonterrestrial craft.

David: He mentioned when he went inside the craft that the wall became transparent, and you could see all around. Is that a normal thing for one of these?

Corey: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is very common. You will see no windows, but everywhere from inside a craft, you can see. It looks like there are no panels at all, like you’re just looking out through an open area.

David: Is it common for stories like this to get passed around, like scuttlebutt in maybe cafeterias, and this kind of stuff?

Corey: That’s usually after a couple of beers in a bar that they feel comfortable talking about that. Usually beer is involved.

David: Ha, ha, ha. All right. Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode, giving you a unique insight into Boyd Bushman, who was widely publicized in the media with this unique testimony, clearly intended to be part of an ongoing disclosure to bring us the truth.

I’m David Wilcock here with Corey Goode, and we thank you for watching.