Cosmic Disclosure: Zero Point Energy and Advanced Propulsion Technology

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. So, Corey, welcome back.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So I’ve got to say that when I saw this interview footage, the first one we’re going to watch here, he actually mentions the name of a guy who I knew very well.

And Mark Comings is one of the only people I’ve ever met who literally could run rings around me when it came to advanced physics.

And so when you and I are talking, you know a lot more about Secret Space Program stuff than anybody else I’ve met, except for a few insiders.

Mark Comings is one of those guys, but in the physics arena. So this really shocked me to hear him mention that name because I know so much about this guy we could talk about him for two hours.

So without further ado, let’s hear the first thing that Mark McCandlish has to say, and maybe you’ll understand why I was so surprised once you see it yourself. Let’s take a look.

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CHASING FREE ENERGY

Mark McCandlish: I met a scientist who has since sort of taken himself out of circulation. He’s vanished. His name was Mark Comings.

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He was a physics professor working as a teaching assistant at UC Berkeley, in their physics department.

And he had been . . . He’d become aware of the fact that in the basement of the physics building on campus was a lot of this old surplus equipment – frequency generators and oscilloscopes and power generators – all these different kinds of things.

So he asked the head of the department if he could go down and just tinker and do some experiments. He had some ideas he wanted to play around with. And they gave him the okay.

So he had this idea that, as you may know, there are certain kinds of crystals, like quartz for example, that . . . It’s the whole basis for the original phonograph record, the stylus.

When you would put a small crystal – I think it was like a diamond crystal – under pressure, it would create a mild electrical current. And if you amplify that current, you could then hear what the impulses were coming through that stone, that gem. And you could actually hear the vibrations that were recorded in a disk of plastic. That’s how the phonograph works.

And so his idea was that, okay, crystals, when they’re put under pressure – physical pressure – will create an electrical charge. But he wondered if you augmented the process by putting electrical coils that wrapped around the crystal, and you essentially applied an electrical pressure to the crystal, that the crystal would do not only the same piezoelectric process of creating an output of electricity, but that it might actually be more than what you would get with just putting physical pressure on it.

That by taking advantage of the lattice – the crystalline structure of this object, this stone – that you could then get it to resonate in a way that would kick out even more energy than you were putting into it.

And so he had a barium titanate crystal. It was about eight inches long, double terminated – in other words, a point on each side – had a cross-section that was kind of like a stop sign, sort of an octagon shape, had it fabricated by a facility outside the San Francisco Bay area where he lived.

And he had two different coils. One had a lot of fine windings, and another coil wrapped around the outside of that, all completely insulated, that had a lower number of windings.

And he experimented with putting a variety of different electrical charges, different voltages, frequencies, in different combinations, until eventually one night, about 1 o’clock in the morning, working late on this apparatus, the crystal began to glow a bluish-green, and it began to ring.

You know how when you’re at a wedding, and you take your glass – your wet finger on a champagne glass, and it makes that high pitched ringing sound? He said it was like that.

And he looked at the scale – the dials on his equipment that showed input voltage and output voltage.

And this thing was putting out 125% more – in other words, everything it was getting plus an additional 25% over and above what he was putting into the crystal.

Of course, he was very excited, you know, took his notes, shut everything down, went home, went to bed. And by 8 o’clock the next morning, his house was surrounded by black SUVs and guys with ear buds and dark glasses.

They kick in the front door. They tossed the whole house. They arrested him. They confiscated all his notes. They confiscated his equipment.

And they basically said that they’d found a closed circuit TV system that he’d set up to view some of the women in the Phys Ed building, the locker room, the women’s locker room in the next building. And, you know, he was in trouble.

And they wouldn’t tell him what he was being charged with. They kept saying, “You know what you’re charged with. You know what’s going on here.”

And the reality of the whole thing was that he had created an apparatus that had accomplished what is supposedly impossible.

And I asked him, I said, “When you did this, when this thing finally worked when you found all of the right ingredients to make it work, do you believe that this thing put out some kind of a footprint in the environment that someone in the know was listening for and were ready to clamp down on?”

He said, “Absolutely, without a question.” He said, “Somebody triangulated my position, found out where I was, found the equipment, got ahold of the administration of the university, and they were at my house by 8 o’clock the next morning.”

That’s how fast it was. And so he’s gone into hiding. And I’ve heard that he’s working somewhere in the Far East.

He’s well-funded and continues his research, but all underground.

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David: Well, Corey, this is a very emotional thing for me actually, because first of all, I knew Mark Comings before he went into hiding. We actually spoke on the same stage at a conference I was doing in Portland in 2003, called “Time and Global Shift”.

And he wouldn’t tell me what he had invented that caused these guys to come to his house. So seeing McCandlish go into detail about what the invention was was a first. I had not heard . . . I just heard about the bad parts.

So let’s talk about that first. Is there, in fact, some sort of energetic signature like Mark and I also talked about personally, that we theorized had been released when you build one of these types of devices that they could detect?

Corey: Yes. And that is how they track, also, a lot of the nonterrestrial and human craft within our solar system.

It is used as a way of doing air traffic control to be able to locate the vessels producing this signature. There is indeed a signature that is put off in a limited spectrum that they are always listening for on the Earth and also in space.

David: Is there any place safe in the world for somebody to develop this technology? Or could the Cabal hit you basically at any geographical location on Earth?

Corey: When it comes to developing it, yeah, there are plenty of deep, dark holes you can hide in to develop it. And you have to acquire everything that you’re going to use – all of the different types of technology – you have to acquire it very quietly.

If one person starts acquiring certain technology, red flags go off.

So you can find a place secure to develop it, but the minute you’re successful, they’re going to know because of this energy signature that they can pick up.

David: Right.

Corey: That’s why they watch these people very closely, very important that they develop a personality profile on them so they can decide which way to approach them.

Some people, you know, the almighty dollar. If they go and offer them $1 billion, they’ll sign over the patent very quickly.

Others, who are more principled, they have to threaten their families. They have to lean on them. And sometimes, ultimately, these people will die of strange cancers, heart attacks, strokes, suicide.

David: It sounds like you’re describing a different type of what John Perkins wrote about in his classic book, “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”. And he called it “The gun or the money campaign” . . .

Corey: Um-hmm.

David: . . . where he’d walk in with a gun in one hand and a bale of cash in the other, and say, “I’m giving you one of the two of these before I leave here. Which one do you want?”

Corey: Yes.

David: Same basic idea, huh?

Corey: Same basic idea. And, I mean, if it’s going to work in that situation, humans are so much the same, they’re going to be able to use it for the free energy sector as well.

David: Another story that Mark Comings told me was that in another group that was aware of this kind of thing happening, they tried to build a free energy device where each component was built separately and the plans were kept separate.

And then only right when they were going to test it would they have each of the guys bring a different piece of the machine together, build it on the spot, test it, then break it down and take it away.

But even in that situation, he said they still got popped.

Corey: Well, it’s easy because there are satellites that are covering almost every square inch of . . . well, every square inch that is important on the Earth.

So if they came together real quick, put this device together, turned it on, and then The-Powers-That-Be got this signal ping on their device – they call it a ping – and then these people take apart the device and then scoot, well, they’re going to be able to go and rewind – just like a videotape where this satellite was tasked, at what time – and go to the right satellite, find the footage, and then track the people back to where they came from.

David: It’s very interesting that Mark Comings is describing the crystal glowing. So I’m curious if you ever witnessed glowing crystal technology in any of the stuff that you saw.

Corey: I saw the scientists working with different types of crystals and stones and stuff, and I saw very small crystals that were square, obviously man made, glow when a field was applied to them.

And there were . . . Nothing physically was touching them. So, yeah, I’ve seen that.

David: If they give you, let’s say, billions of dollars, and you take it. Do they then kill you later, or do you actually get to live out your life?

Corey: Very quietly live your life, probably on a remote island.

David: All right. Well, with that in mind, let’s now see this next piece of interview footage with Mark McCandlish discussing the interesting and scary politics of free energy. Take a look.

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RELEASING FREE ENERGY

Mark McCandlish: Actually, bringing the technology out and making it available is something that’s going to require all of the precautions that we started to implement when we went from the horse and buggy era to automobiles – you know, car crashes, or people going too fast, or spilling gasoline, and fires.

But, you know, the technology, if it’s properly implemented, can give the petroleum industry the ability to take all of that chemistry and use it for other things that are much more valuable in terms of their return on investment.

There’ll have to be a time when the scientific community as a whole is going to get together, and they’re going to have to acknowledge that the technology is real.

There’s been enough experiments, enough patents done now, that anyone who’s really in the know, who understands what the implications are of the technology, is going to understand that if a scientific consortium, a group of scientists, came together and they outlined a plan to implement the development of the technology in a way that it could be used safely – safely for the production of energy, with the sole purpose being to save the environment from all of the impacts of the pollution that’s created by fossil fuels, especially the nuclear power industry after the wake of Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and now Fukushima.

I mean, there are people now that are saying that in 20 years, the Pacific Ocean could be dead because of all the cesium 137 that’s being put into the ocean.

And if we can use the technology to produce power and not have to worry about nuclear power and the fallout, and the terrible footprint of nuclear waste, then I think we’ll be so much further ahead. I think the environment will really benefit.

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David: So regarding this question of clean energy, I think you and I both agree that it is being suppressed for a variety of reasons.

What would you say are the main reasons why this technology isn’t being allowed to go out there despite its awesome usefulness for the problems that we have?

Corey: Most of these patents have been classified for one reason. The reason is that if the free energy was released to the public, it’s going to collapse the economy because the energy sector is a very, very large part of the economy.

What truly is the reason is that those who control the energy sector don’t want to lose their power and income. So we are being denied these technologies just because somebody wants to get paid.

Another aspect of this is you’ll have someone try to reproduce one of these free energy devices. And if it is known, remotely they can create an imbalance in the field of where the people are doing the testing, and things that should normally be repeatable – experiments that are repeatable – won’t work.

So they’re able to affect it remotely as well – affect people’s research.

David: All right. Now, we’re going to have some footage from Mark McCandlish in which he’s describing not a reverse engineered situation, but an actual extraterrestrial craft and the attendant circumstances. Let’s take a look.

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UNDERSTANDING ZERO POINT ENERGY

Mark McCandlish: Since I found out about the Alien Reproduction Vehicle, one of the things that I began investigating was the whole business of alien abduction, and alien contact, and this kind of thing, because my thinking was that if these people really were having encounters with beings from another star system, there might be a chance – however slim – that they were taken aboard these vehicles, and they might have gotten a tour of the ship.

They might have had an opportunity to see some of the components of the ship.

And I really got pretty lucky, because one of the three young ladies who I investigated very thoroughly, did, in fact, make that claim, that after she had gone through some very horrifying tests to determine whether she was a threat to the beings on this vehicle, they did, in fact, give her a tour of the ship.

And one of the areas that she went into was an area where the central part of the propulsion system was located. And many of the components described were remarkably similar to the ones in the Alien Reproduction Vehicle.

There was a central column. There was evidence of counter rotation, just like in the Bell. There was a small disk, very similar to the item that’s in the Alien Reproduction Vehicle. But in the Alien Reproduction Vehicle, this thing is . . . it looks like the floor of the vehicle. It’s about a nine foot diameter disk that’s under the ejection seats.

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But on the alien version, this thing’s only about two to three inches larger in diameter than the central column. And the column was made out of a glass-like substance, just like the materials used in the ARV.

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It was sitting in a pit in the middle of a circular room, and the perimeter of the room was kind of a walkway with a railing at its edge.

But she said that when she looked down into the pit and across the far side, she could see that beneath the floor was this glass-like substance with these coils embedded, just like the ring of coils around the crew apartment in the ARV.

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But the thing that was most fascinating about her description was that in the central column, with the little disk at the bottom spinning in one direction, the column itself spinning in the opposite direction, that there was a silvery metallic-like fluid that was inside this column that she could see under the glass.

And it had these little flecks, shiny flecks and dark flecks of material that were sort of swirling around, but she said you could see the turbulence pattern in the liquid.

And the turbulence pattern looked like a series of five little tornadoes that were spiraling up around the inside of this column.

What she was witnessing is very much like what you see when you get an F5 tornado. You have the big one in the middle that’s going 150 miles an hour. It’s tearing up everything in sight.

And then a lot of times what you’ll get is a series of smaller tornadoes that are rotating in the opposite direction, almost just like a planetary gear drive. And they’re orbiting the main one in the middle.

And the turbulence pattern that she was seeing in this column looked just like what you would see in those little sister tornadoes that would orbit an F5.

And so that told me that inside this column was a shearing effect, where two things are moving past one another like that, which means that there’s another cylinder on the inside moving in one direction. And then there’s a cylinder on the outside moving in the opposite direction.

And that shearing effect is what was creating these like miniature tornado-type structures on the inside.

So then, the fluid itself can be seen moving upward. So that begs the question, okay, where is it going?

Well, if it’s a closed loop system – and this sort of fills out some of the details of the Die Glocke, the Bell – is that if the fluid is moving upward, then it has to be coming back down somewhere.

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And the answer is it’s coming down through the middle. So it’s a closed loop. It goes up through the edges between the two cylinders and then down through the middle.

And if you’re having this tremendously powerful electrical discharge that fires through that liquid, and it’s done in just the right way – if you shape different parts of the system in such a way that it’s like a venturi, like a funnel at the top – when you fire electricity down through the center of that funnel – because you have a ring shaped electrode and then a cone shaped electrode in the middle – you get what amounts to an artificial ball lightening.

Ball lightning has been modeled as a torus, as a donut shape, in the laboratory. They’ve done this.

And what happens when you create this kind of an event with high voltages, is in this donut shaped event, you have the ions that are not only moving around the perimeter of this donut shape, but they’re also moving in and out, precessing around the perimeter of this donut shape.

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And they create a powerful electromagnetic field.

So what you have in this device is an electoral discharge that creates what amounts to a smoke ring of ions that shoot down through the column. The outer edges are basically stroking through the whiskers of this electrode and giving off all the power that’s essentially being drawn out of the vacuum of space-time.

And that’s how they’re drawing the zero point energy out of the vacuum – is with this system.

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David: Well, that’s remarkably technical. And all kinds of lights are flashing in my head as we listen to him say these things, because you are one of the people who’ve mentioned a mercury-based propulsion system.

But given how many specifics he said, and that you’ve never actually spoken to him before, how much truth is there in what he’s saying based on what you know here?

Corey: He’s explaining it way better than I ever could. And they . . . I guess in the beginning, we tried using mercury, but they have engineered other gallium metals that are basically liquid metals that conduct electricity much better, and when being exposed to high electrical fields, don’t turn to gold, which is what was occurring when we were trying to use mercury. And I’ve talked about that in depth in the past.

David: So the essential idea that there is a crystalline-looking tube or waveguide in the middle, and that the mercury or whatever liquid metal is spinning is inside that central tube, and that there’s this counter-rotating smaller vortexes outside the larger one, all of that seems true?

Corey: Yes, it’s . . . And the donut shapes that go down or up depending on the polarity of . . . that its’ . . . which way the plates are spinning. The liquid travels up and then down through the tube and back down through the system.

David: When you say donut shape, are you saying it’s a donut vortex in the liquid that you see?

Corey: Yes, it’s like a . . . You can see them going up, you know, one after another. And they’re spaced out perfectly from each other.

David: When he says ball lightning is formed in the center, does that mean there’s some sort of visible, glowing sphere in the center of the tube, or . . .

Corey: He was saying something akin to ball lightning. He was describing these donut-shaped vortices that were coming up.

David: Oh. So do they have a luminosity to them, a light?

Corey: No, it looked like liquid . . . just looked like liquid metal being pushed around with eddies of the same liquid metal within it. You could tell different vortexes.

David: Now, this event that this woman had was being described as an extraterrestrial abduction. Do you think, in light of what we now know, that this might have been from the space program using programmable lifeforms and that sort of thing, given how similar it is to sort of like a more advanced version of the German technology you’ve described?

Corey: This sounds nonterrestrial to me. A lot of . . . He was describing we had like 9-foot plates, that they had 11-inch plates that would suffice or do the same function, perform the same function.

David: Right.

Corey: And it has to do with how much more advanced they are than us in the material sciences. So they can create a superconductive plate that puts out or handles the same amount of electricity as we do, but they can do it with a much smaller surface area.

David: Why do you think he said there were some black flecks in this material? Wouldn’t the material conduct the best if it was a uniform substance or could there be that maybe it levels out the charge with certain particles in certain places by having them distributed like that? What do you think?

Corey: Yeah, that would be a good explanation, that it helps distribute the charge.

David: How common is it for extraterrestrial groups to use this sort of waveguide and liquid metal type of propulsion system where the waveguide is like a tube that you can actually see in the middle of the craft?

Corey: I believe that is fairly common. And it’s one of the methods that some of the less advanced groups use. There are much more advanced temporal drives and other types of propulsion systems that are much more advanced than this.

But when you have nonterrestrials . . . When you think of nonterrestrials in the universe, they’re at different levels of technological development themselves.

And it is also not unusual to hear about an abductee getting a tour. I’ve read information about them getting tours, being shown equipment, being shown star maps, being given other information. So that’s not unusual either.

David: All right. Next up we have Mark McCandlish talking about a very unusual crash story. Let’s check it out.

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ADVANCED CRAFT RETRIEVAL

Mark McCandlish: I was at a little web cafe or Internet cafe using a computer because my computer had been hacked, so I was borrowing their computer.

And I’m busy checking my email, and off to the side I can hear this conversation going on between two people who are talking about magnetic ferrofluids – oil-based fluids. They have lots of metallic particles that react to magnetism because they have iron.

And they were speculating about whether it had anything to do with a propulsion system.

And so my ear, my attention kind of picked up a little bit. And the guy was talking about a crash in a vehicle, and I was all, “What are you guys talking about?”

“Oh, we can’t talk about it.”

I said, “Well, okay, let me tell you what I know, and then if you think that it’s interesting enough for you, you can tell me what you know.”

Well, one of these two guys had been in the Army. He was . . . Apparently, he had been part of a crew, a group, a unit, that had just been formed. It wasn’t even on the books, yet.

And it turns out later that’s how I found out this is how they conduct a lot of these classified operations is that they create a unit, but before it’s ever on the books, before it ever becomes part of the historical record, there are already people operating in that unit. They go out and perform a mission, maybe a couple of missions, and then afterwards, then everything’s on the books in terms of the existence of the unit.

But prior to that time, there’s no access by the Freedom of Information Act at all, because it officially never existed. And that’s what this unit was.

And right at the end of the Cold War, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, and there was a lot of talk of the reunification of East and West Germany, there were double agents – people working for the United States intelligence community that were inside the East German government.

And the assignment that this young man was a part of was to go in, do an insertion into East Germany – you know, all nap-of-the-earth, below the radar, literally – and to collect some of the people that were operating on the inside as double agents because they were really worried that these people might be killed once the government started to collapse.

And they were in the midst of that mission – going to a pickup point to collect one of these individuals – when they were redirected to this crash site.

The vehicle itself . . . And I don’t know what the vehicle’s called, but I can describe it for you.

Imagine a big, black arrowhead with the blunt end here [leaving one hand by his face] and the long pointy end over here [his other hand is stretched out about two feet].

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Except that when this thing flew through the air, it flew with the blunt end forward.

It had a cockpit that looked an awful lot like the cockpit on the F-117A stealth fighter with the little sawtooth edges around the windows. And the edge of the canopy had the same kind of sawtooth cutting in the architecture of the vehicle.

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If viewed from head on, it would look like a triangle. From the side, it would look like a pyramid that had been stretched out on one of its three corners.

And then under each of the front corners was about a 2½, or maybe about 24~30” diameter white sphere embedded up in the body of the vehicle at each corner in the front.

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And then about 2/3rds of the way back, on the long point end, there was a third sphere.

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The spheres were held in place by a three pronged clasp, almost like the setting of a pearl in a ring, that was silver, that looked as though it could be articulated and pointed in different directions for perhaps steering control of the vehicle.

By the time he arrived, as part of this salvage operation, there were a couple of technicians with white lab coats, the whole nine yards, taking important components out of the cockpit. They were taking components out, and those were being carried away to somewhere else.

The vehicle had crashed because the pilot was flying some kind of a surveillance mission, was flying nap-of-the-earth using this system, came up through a valley about 10 kilometers southwest of the city of Halle, H-A-L-L-E, in East Germany.

And he came up over a ridge, and he clipped the top of a large pine tree with the left front corner of the vehicle and basically sheared off the corner, crushed the sphere that was at that corner.

And the vehicle immediately began to dive to the left and downward because of the loss of that support, whatever the propulsive mechanism was.

And so in an attempt to not crash, he tried to bank it as far to the right as he could, and he pulled the nose up, and it impacted the hill side anyway. It hit tail first.

And when it did . . . When it hit tail first, it cracked open the structure of the fuselage where that third sphere was in the long pointy end.

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And that sphere basically began floating off and was floating around the hill side when they arrived.

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And the three-pronged retainer had come off, but the sphere itself was pretty much intact. He described it as looking like a white, ceramic pumpkin with the vertical striations like you’d see in a pumpkin.

But then each of the individual striations had a scalloping, almost like the terracotta tiles on a missionary-style piece of architecture.

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So it had this kind of . . . And it looked like the shape was designed to create turbulence patterns on the inside of the vessel.

At the very top was an electrical carry through, metal in color, like a brushed aluminum color, with a number of wires coming out of it.

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Now, he described this thing as sort of bobbing around, just a few inches above the surface of the ground, and every once in a while, it would begin to spin rapidly and sort of bobbing around.

And it would get a little bit higher off the ground, and then there’d be an electrical discharge between a couple of the wires coming out of this thing, and then it would sort of calm down and settle down again.

And so they were tasked with capturing this sphere. And the object would periodically make this little bit energetic dance, and so they had to kind of time it so they captured it at a moment where it wasn’t too energized.

And they had one of these large, utility-yellow, aluminum carrying cases the military is notorious for using, with a piano hinge along one side and the turnbuckles on the other. You know, you bring it together and lock it up real tight.

And so when they walked up with this thing like this [Mark has the backs of his hands together and his hands spread out] to try and close around it, and the aluminum was apparently reflecting a magnetic field that was created by this object.

And so when they would try to approach it, it would just sort of wander away. It would be repelled by the aluminum.

So then what they came up with is they took the lid off of this thing by undoing the . . . sliding the piano hinge and disengaging the pins. They slid the lid underneath this thing. And then they brought the bottom half of the case down over the top of it, engaged the hinge, closed the turnbuckles, and then they let go of the case.

And the case went “poof” [turning his hand up straight indicating fast movement] and stood up on end like a gravestone. It was really spooky from what they said.

But they brought in – and this is really pretty fantastic – they brought in a CH53 Super Stallion with a very long – at least a 100′ long – synthetic lanyard that they hooked this container on.

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Apparently, it was so powerful in terms of the magnetic fields it was producing, they were worried that it was going to screw up the avionics on the helicopter, and they booked out of there.

There were Navy SEALs with pea coats, the nightwatchman cap. They had the M-16s with the under and over grenade launchers.

They had two Cobra helicopters, fully armed with the missiles and the whole nine yards, orbiting the site.

15 Cobra Helicopter

And they collected as much debris as they could. It was carried off to a vehicle that was on a roadway not too far away.

And then they put thermite grenades into what was left of the fuselage and burned it down to nothing.

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David: I didn’t even realize that anybody had ever gotten such a close description of what you call a Dart. How close does that look to what you’ve been saying you were getting picked up with at your house?

Corey: Well, we’ve recently had an image of the Dart produced.

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David: This is an astonishing connection. Just . . . They’re so similar in how they look that I’m wondering if there are any differences, or if it’s just that maybe your illustrator didn’t quite have the ability to capture every nuance.

Corey: He didn’t catch every nuance, but it is very close. This sounds like an early precursor to what we’re calling the Dart now, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . because it has a crew – the crew cabin – there are for two people. There are seats for two people.

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And in the back, there are seats for three people.

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David: Right.

Corey: And no real . . .

David: In the Dart that you were on?

Corey: In the Dart that I was on.

David: Right.

Corey: And there were also these red or maroon like domes, three of them that hang from the bottom. And I had wondered why when I’d asked, what’s – it was small – what propels the craft? What makes it work? And they would tell me that they have disco balls in them.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: And I thought they were just screwing with me, but after seeing this orb that was floating around and how it was described, that could be very well what they were referring to.

David: Wow!

Corey: And that just hit me when I was watching that footage.

David: So even for you, you’re getting surprised and learning some new things here.

Corey: Yes. And how he described from the front and the top, it looks like a triangle, and I had described it looks like a pyramid. It’s built up like a pyramid from the side. That’s exactly how it looks.

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David: Do you think that the Dart will be one of the more commonly used craft in a post-disclosure world, that we will see a lot of these?

Corey: Different variations of it, yes.

David: One of the things I noticed that happened while we were watching this is that you had visible shock, or at least surprise, when he was describing Germany before the collapse of the Berlin Wall, and the idea that an American helicopter would have been able to go in there to do a crash retrieval operation.

So what was your reaction based on here?

Corey: I think that pretty much proves collaboration at the highest levels between the Soviet Union and the West during that time.

David: Ah!

Corey: Because there is . . . Anyone that lived during that time period would know that there is no way we’d be able to fly, especially air assets, into East Germany during that time period. They would be taken down quickly.

They had air defenses everywhere. It would have been . . . I think it would have been impossible to get air assets in there without collaboration between the United States and the Soviet Union up on the top level, where the Secret Space Program is being discussed.

David: One of my original insiders described having to transport 26 boxes of highly sensitive documents for a friend of his who was a high level Mason. And they had to do it very quickly in one night because there was a security breach.

And as a gratuity for risking his life to do this, he was able to open one of the boxes. And what he said, among several fascinating things that I’ve talked about before, is that he saw a document that was from the United States that apparently was given to every country in the world.

And they were told, “If a UFO crashes in your country, let us handle it because biological material could come out, radioactivity could come out, all these kind of things.”

Do you think that that document is, in fact, true? And do you think that this is something that the U.S. generally handles wherever it happens?

Corey: The U.S. handles it, but the Soviets also have a great response group. I believe we called it . . . At least in the Army, it was called Pounce, Operation Pounce. For any foreign materials that would fall to Earth, they would go and recover them.

So the Americans would go in and recover materials in foreign countries. And usually the foreign countries would let us know, not just because they were scared and took our word for it, but there had been incidents, such as in Mexico. In the Zone of Silence, there was a UFO that crashed and they sent in American Pounce teams in full NBC gear to recover the craft. And when they did, there were, I believe, Mexican military that had died from exposure to the technology.

David: Now, you mentioned one of the five factions of the space program was the Global Galactic League of Nations. Do you think that the world leaders who are essentially told at gunpoint to give up these very valuable artifacts crashing in their country, that them being taken up to some kind of space base, is like a gratuity to keep them quiet, keep them happy, like they’re inside something?

Corey: Yes, that’s why that particular program was set up was to give other countries that know about the space program a seat at the table and also a way to keep them quiet about it, keep them from announcing it.

David: All right. Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode. It’s absolutely fascinating stuff. Every hair on my arms was standing up when I saw that image of the Dart pop in front of me just now.

And Corey, you just nodded your head.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So it’s really astonishing to work on this for so many years and to see completely isolated sources give you almost exactly the same stuff. That’s where real disclosure starts to happen.

And it only happens right here on “Cosmic Disclosure”, bringing you the tip of the spear for Full Disclosure. Thanks for watching, and we’ll see you next time.

Cosmic Disclosure: Boyd Bushman’s Deathbed Testimonial

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode, our insider’s insider. And in this episode, we have some rare footage from a now deceased insider from Lockheed Martin, none other than Boyd Bushman.

So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: All right. So here’s our first excerpt of an interview that we did not shoot with Boyd Bushman, but is public domain, fair use on the Internet. And given the importance and what we talk about on this show, it’s well worth watching. Let’s check it out.

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MEET BOYD

Boyd Bushman: My name is Boyd Bushman. I’m a senior scientist from Lockheed Martin. I have 27 patents.

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Approximately 13 years ago, I ran across a person who had been given a job by Dr. Teller.

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Dr. Teller was Oppenheimer’s right-hand man.

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And even after Oppenheimer was thrown out of Area 51, Dr. Teller stayed there and was in charge of several programs.

The person that I contact twice to three times per month is the head of that program now, and they continually update me on everything they possibly can. I do have a top secret clearance.

I choose, however, for their purposes, not to use it because they – the intelligent ones of me and me – actually believe that a great deal of information should be lifted up from those dark recesses of Area 51 and moved over so people can see it.

So that’s what began about 13 years ago.

Since I am a scientist, I do not believe in theory. I basically, say, “Follow the data; theory be damned.” If something can’t verify by a physical test that something is true, then I do not care to accept it in that [information] that I present.

Therefore, everything we present here will be data that comes directly from them, through me, to you.

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David: He’s talking about the idea that Teller was working with a group of insiders and that they now want to disclose the truth. So is this something that happens fairly often in these classified programs, that people actually do want to get the information out?

Corey: Yes, it’s fairly common. And whoever is doing security of these groups know that. They’ve done personality profiles on these people. They watch them very closely. They’re watching for body language, different micro facial expressions. They’re watching them very closely to know whether they need to step in.

So a lot of the times, these guys will usually have these conversations, you know, at a Sunday cookout and sit around and talk about it instead of talking about it at work.

And eventually, they end up getting found out, for the most part. It’s very rare that they don’t find out that they’re talking about it “outside of the office”, as they say.

David: He said in there, “I have a top secret clearance, but I don’t choose to use it.” What do you think he meant by that?

Corey: If you go in and work under a top security clearance, you’re bound, legally, by everything you agreed to when you signed the agreement for the security clearance.

So if he’s trying to work, he’s trying to skirt the security clearance and any retributions that may happen legally or with his pension. So he’s playing kind of a little game.

David: Now, when this interview came out, as I’m sure you remember, it lit up even the mainstream media like a wildfire. There were a lot of articles that were written about this, covering this guy.

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So that, to me, suggests that he is not working as some rogue, but that what he’s doing here was perhaps part of an orchestrated plan. Do you think that’s true?

Corey: Well, it very well could be, because the groups that I was describing prior, the ones that don’t get caught, are the ones that find like-minded people in security that turn a blind eye to the talk.

These are the types of people that really got this SSP Alliance rolling.

David: Right.

Corey: You know? That’s how it got rolling.

David: What would be the objective of articles about this man and what he’s going to say as we go through this episode, being released to the public?

He does seem to have the credibility. He says he works for Lockheed. We’re going to see some pictures of extraterrestrials, allegedly.

What would be the ultimate endgame of promoting these videos and his testimony in front of the whole world?

Corey: Well, the Alliance anyway, and as well as the – whoever we want to name – the shadow government, they’ve been seeding the consciousness of humanity through movies and, you know, comic books, people giving deathbed statements like this.

So they kind of want to – in a way that they can distance themselves from or deny – deliver this information in bits and pieces to our subconscious.

David: He said that he worked for Lockheed, and he has 27 patents.

Corey: That should be easy to verify, unless they’re . . .

David: That’s what I’m thinking.

Corey: . . . one of the 5,700 classified patents.

David: Now, the reason why I bring this up is, can you verify that these patents might be held under national security, and therefore we might not be able to find them because they could be classified technology?

Or might there be enough things Lockheed is doing that are unclassified that at least some of those patents could be tracked down?

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Corey: Yeah. A good deal of their patents are unclassified, but the most sensitive ones end up being among that 5,700 or so patents that are classified to this day.

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David: So then, if someone is trying to fact-check this, they might find some patents. They might not find all 27, but it’s likely that at least some of these should be able to be tracked down.

Corey: Yes.

David: Many of these insiders, such as William Tompkins, and people he’s spoken to, are told that, “Oh, just calm down. You know, the things that you’re working on, we’re going to release it in 10 years.”

Then 10 years go by, nothing happens.

How does that influence what we’re seeing now with this guy coming forward, when he’s been told by the doctor that he might only have weeks to live?

Corey: Well, that is very common, telling them “a decade – it’s a decade away”. That was told to a lot of people in the programs that I was in.

David: Really?

Corey: A lot of them who had a conscience wanted to know when is this information going to be given to the public? And they also wanted credit for what they’ve been doing. They want the public to know what they’ve been doing.

David: Sure.

Corey: And they were told that, “You’ll be a hero someday. Everyone will know 10 years from now.” And they keep kicking the can, and a lot of these people become very disillusioned and become ripe to become members of the Alliance.

David: How is the Alliance able to contact people in this position without getting outed if there’s so much surveillance? How are they able to do it?

Corey: It’s usually people that are friendly within the security apparatus of these different groups. That’s usually . . . If you want to start some sort of subversion, you need to first infiltrate security or police.

David: So you’re saying it would then happen as a verbal conversation with, like, somebody who’s allegedly a security guard?

Corey: Oh, yeah. Only mouth to mouth. You know, mouth to ear, mouth to ear.

David: Is it possible for people to send letters to each other? I heard recently, that the U.S. post offices, they might not read your letters, but they are now scanning everybody’s mail and seeing who you’re sending mail to.

Corey: No, it’s not advised to have anything in writing. You know . . .

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. You pass information down the chain, which can be unreliable, kind of like the telephone game. It goes through different people’s filters, and then they kind of tweak it a little bit, but you don’t want to have anything written.

David: When we were talking before the show about some of the validation that’s now showed up recently for Boyd Bushman, it seems that it comes out of this Vault 7 leak recently that took place.

So for those who have not been actively paying attention to that, since it did seem to go by pretty fast in the media, could you explain for us what the Vault 7 story is and how it relates to Disclosure?

Corey: Yes. Vault 7 was a data dump done by WikiLeaks on the CIA.

David: And my understanding is that there’s 8,700 documents in this Vault 7.

Corey: That’s a very large dump.

David: Yeah. The thing that shocked me the most was when WikiLeaks came out with this and said that 99% of the stories that there are to be found in there have not yet been made public. And we had Drudge Report calling this another Snowden.

What would be the purpose of releasing information from classified CIA documents? And how does that relate to Disclosure?

Corey: They released a lot of names in this Vault 7 data dump, and a lot of these names are people that are civilians who have been tracked by the CIA.

David: So Boyd Bushman is in the Vault 7 leaks.

Corey: Yes.

David: And they were watching him and keeping him under surveillance.

Corey: This was a list of civilians who have been surveilled by the CIA.

David: If the NSA is our National Security Agency, which is really national surveillance agency, and that’s what they do, why the heck does the CIA need to be doing the exact same stuff but under their own umbrella? That’s not going to make sense to most people.

Corey: A lot of these organizations are not completely connected when it comes to data. They’re not necessarily all pulling from the same haystack.

They’ll have their own haystacks of information. And it is redundant, but these groups aren’t fully . . . These groups aren’t fully sharing between each other. They go through kind of a committee to share information with each other.

David: One of the things that just came out about Vault 7 was a leak from the highest levels that no one is allowed to work with each other in the CIA for more than three years because they’re so worried about individual people on a team starting to form their own little factions.

Corey: Collusion, yes.

David: Do you think that’s partly the Alliance and how they’re trying to stop the Alliance from being able to grow?

Corey: That’s how they’re trying to prevent any type of coordinated effort against them.

David: Exactly. All right. Now, let’s see the next very interesting piece of the interview done with Boyd Bushman, his deathbed confessional, Lockheed Martin insider. Check it out.

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ALIENS ARE REAL

Boyd Bushman: I asked them to tell me about who was flying these things. He, therefore, said, “Fine. They’re approximately 5′, 4½’ to 5′ tall.”

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They had one or two of them around that were 230 years old. And we have a total of at least 18 that exist and operate with our facility as Teller set it up.

And notice the eyes are different, nose are different, but they do have five fingers, five toes, two eyes.

And rather strangely enough, I asked him how they communicate. He says, “Well, it’s like this, Boyd. You all of a sudden have a question in your mind. You walk into a room with one of them, and all of a sudden, you find yourself giving the answer to your question in your own voice. They’re able to use your own voice by telepathy to talk to you.”

And I said, “Fine.”

Now, that’s how they look from front, but when you turn around and look at the back, it’s like that.

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Now, notice that they have three back bones. They’re actually cartilage. Nevertheless, it’s a much more efficient system than ours.

They also have three ribs in their system, rather than more. This is also the back side of an alien.

Here’s a 45° look.

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And, now when we talk about aliens, I pushed the issue, and he said, “Well, there’s kind of two groups of aliens.” They divided them into two groups. One group he calls . . . it’s like you have a ranch. And you have a ranch, and you find that one group are your wranglers that know how to wrangle your cattle.

There are others who are rustlers, ones that steal your cattle.

And indeed, the two groups do act differently. The ones that are wranglers are much more friendly and have a better relationship with us.

Here’s the other side of the alien, too.

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Now, also notice that their feet, where they have five toes, the toes are joined together like a frog, yet they are dissimilar.

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And this is the home planet that they come from, which they call Quintumnia.

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And notice that the hand . . . that’s an alien hand.

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Notice that the fingers are longer than ours by quite a bit, about 30% longer, and that’s just the way they’re put together.

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David: Well obviously, there’s a lot of very interesting stuff we can talk about in this one excerpt alone.

One of the things that he said, that I think even the people writing the articles didn’t really catch, was he mentioned the number 18.

And it sounded to me very much like when he said that there were at least 18, that he was talking about different types of extraterrestrials.

That’s a much smaller number than what you were aware of. However, would someone maybe just working as an engineer for Lockheed only be given a number around that size as part of this compartmentalized security?

Corey: Yes. And he most likely found out about the majority of them towards the end of the time he spent as an engineer or after.

They usually let you know of three, maybe eight, different types, depending on what technology you’re reverse engineering, what technology you’re studying.

They’re not going to let you know more than you “need to know”.

David: Let’s just say that one of those guys is watching our show, and maybe you can show him that there might be more than he thinks he knows. So what might those three to eight groups be? What would he have been told, necessarily?

I mean, they could change but . . .

Corey: Oh, yeah, it could change. Some of them know about Reptilians, but some of them don’t.

David: Okay.

Corey: It’s interesting. Some of them have been told about this Eben-type group.

David: Okay. Which would be what?

Corey: Some people associate them with the Greys, but they look very fleshy. They’re bipedal, fleshy beings. You know, their eyeballs aren’t black unless they have lenses in.

Then you have these Nordic groups.

David: Okay.

Corey: Mostly, they’ll know about that, or the Tall Whites. But for the most part, they’ll know about those. And some of them seem to know about the Reptilians, but some of them don’t.

David: Now, there’s going to be controversy right up front with the Boyd Bushman stuff because all these kids on the Internet thought that they win the Nobel Prize for discovering that this ET picture that he’s holding up was actually just a photo of a toy from Walmart.

Corey: Right.

David: The toy from 2008 looks exactly the same as the pictures that he’s holding up now.

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So many people on the Internet have tried to – as the skeptical debunkers – think that this guy literally just took a toy and took pictures of it. How do you answer that?

Corey: There is the possibility that this toy was released in a limited edition to preempt any disclosures of this type of alien.

Now, I’ve mentioned to you in private, I believe, that I’ve seen these types of beings, and I’ve seen them alive.

David: Right.

Corey: And they were referred to as “Oranges”. And when they were alive, their skin color was sort of carrot-colored, but it was darker – carrot-colored with a little brownish, I guess. But they called them “Oranges”.

And they were very positive beings. When they’re alive, if you’ve ever had a pet bird or seen a bird that has died, their eyes recess into their head quite a bit.

David: Right.

Corey: And when they’re alive, their eyes are out from the head. And then the little wrinkly areas under the eyes and above their eyes, they’re very, very . . . in the eyes, the energy’s very pleasant.

David: Mmm.

Corey: And their eyes articulate around quite a bit, and you see the wrinkles that go under the eyes and around the eyes push out and move around as the eyes are kind of out from the head a little bit – barely.

David: So you’re saying that the Orange has a much different look when it’s alive than what this desiccated corpse is.

Corey: Right. They have been here to try to assist us. I guess they would be one of the wranglers.

David: That he mentioned.

Corey: That he mentioned. They’ve been here trying to help manage us, manage the planet, you know, sort of like watchers.

David: Some people who are not very well informed would say that any type of ET that looks like this is a Grey, and that it is abducting people and torturing them and putting probes in them and implants in them. How do you answer that in terms of what you’re saying these guys are doing?

Corey: Well, there are a number of beings out there that have loosely the same description as these Greys.

David: Right.

Corey: So there’s a lot of confusion. You know, there’s even a Reptilian-type species that has the same body configuration and sort of look that these Greys have.

And in the rehab, the people that had had contact with these beings, the military would reabduct them, and a lot of times the people would tell them that they were Greys because they had seen so many different TV shows, and they’ve seen that outline image of the Grey so many times that they try to connect them all together because they look similar.

David: You also mentioned that guys at a lower level of security clearance, who were still nonetheless Top Secret, would be told about Nordics. We’ve discussed Nordics living inside the Earth.

What would the typical boiler plate, lower level disclosure of Nordics involve? What would they be told they are? Where do they come from? What are they doing?

Corey: Well, not all Nordic beings come from Inner Earth.

David: Right.

Corey: Some of them actually come from other stars and have been in a millennial-long battle with the Reptilians and have had skirmishes with other beings and civilizations, as well.

There has been a galactic war – if not intergalactic war – that’s ebbed and flowed and happened in history, way back before humanity even existed.

David: So that material science guy working at Lockheed Martin, working on surface texture, whatever, that kind of stuff, okay, what is he told about Nordics based on what you just said? How much might he know?

Corey: It just depends on his need to know. Whatever technology he’s working on, he only needs to know what he needs to know to interface with the beings or to know that it’s associated with a certain being, to have an idea of what type of approach was taken to the technology development on their planet.

Other than that, unless he’s worked multiple programs and got to know of multiple ETs, he’s just going to know of what they tell him for what he needs to know on his job.

David: He mentioned something about cartilage being the way that the bones are made, and that they only had three ribs, and that there was an unusual structure in their back.

Are there some ETs that have more of a cartilage skeleton instead of a bones skeleton like ours?

Corey: Yes, a cartilage-like skeleton, but a lot of them are not . . . the whole skeleton is not cartilage. They just have features. Like we have cartilage in our nose.

David: Right.

Corey: They might have different protrusions or other things that are something similar that was a part of whatever they were before they evolved, like the webbed fingers.

David: Now, he mentioned something strange about telepathy, which was that not only do you experience telepathic communication as soon as you walk into the room with these beings, but that you hear it as if it was your own voice speaking to you.

What are your thoughts on that?

Corey: That’s exactly how it occurs. And it’ll make you wonder when you’re having ideas and thoughts, where are they coming from? You know, it could be another source outside of yourself.

But, yes, the communications I have, everyone has that one voice that they sort of process hearing in their internal monologue. That’s the same voice you hear them communicating with you.

And you also get images, smells, tastes, depending on the being.

David: He also mentioned that these beings had a planet of origin that he called Quintumnia. I’m curious if you ever got into enough of a dialogue with these Oranges, as you called them, to hear anything like that, or if there are, in fact, names of planet and things like this that pop up sometimes.

Corey: Yes. They will give names of their planet, which is obviously from their location. It’s not some sort of English translation of where they’re from. This very well could be the name that they have given to their planet. That’s the first time I’ve heard it.

David: So if he’s saying that he was made aware in briefings, it appears that he was made aware of 18 groups at least, and he’s saying that they neatly divide into two major categories.

Category one: wranglers. Category number two: rustlers, which would actually be those who steal your cattle.

Corey: Right.

David: This sounds an awful lot like the galactic slave trade you’ve mentioned. So I’m curious about your thoughts when you saw that part of the video.

Corey: That’s correct. And during the time that he was getting his briefings, most likely a lot of that was going on heavily before we had developed the Secret Space Program far along enough to where we could, I guess, warden – Solar Warden – our own territory.

But yes, they would come in and scoop people all the time, and then shoot out of our Solar System real quickly. And even the nonterrestrials that were monitoring things, it sometimes would happen so fast that they couldn’t respond.

David: How long do you think people in the United States’ defense establishment were aware of this going on before they had the technological means to stop it?

Corey: They’ve been . . . Since the inception of an intelligence community, they’ve known.

David: And when did they gain the capability to stop this from happening?

Corey: That would have been probably in the early ’80s that they would have been able to show enough force to stop it from occurring consistently.

David: All right, our next section of Boyd Bushman’s interview is coming up right now with a lot more fascinating information. Let’s take a look.

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AREA 51

Boyd Bushman: I do, because of some very good reasons, keep things within control, but I don’t want us all behind the Russians and Chinese. And the problem I have is that Area 51 is working with both the Russians and Chinese right now trying to make UFOs.

There’s been a total of 39 United States citizens that have lost their lives, trying to reverse engineer UFOs.

And, well, the last one I heard of was a year and a half ago, where we lost 19 lives in one test. They actually wanted to bring various flying craft near the UFO, and the UFO defended itself, and 19 of our people died.

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David: How do you think it would have felt to somebody like Boyd Bushman, working probably during the Cold War obviously, and then knowing that Russians and Chinese are actually jointly working with the US at Area 51?

Corey: The people that were fighting the Cold War, so to speak, were heavily indoctrinated in the anti-Russia mentality. That’s what drove them in doing their engineering was keeping America safe from any type of nuclear exchange with Russia.

David: Well, China wasn’t as much of a . . . It wasn’t considered as much of a threat in the ’80s as it is now, but why would China be at Area 51? What’s really going on here?

Corey: We got to a certain point in our Secret Space Program to where we couldn’t hide it from the other technologically evolved nations. They were tracking us.

So not only did we have this Global Galactic League of Nations that was set up, but in . . . I can’t remember the time period, but I think it was in the ’90s, some sort of an agreement was signed between these powers that they would share technology.

They’re exchanging scientists to make sure there’s a continuity of technical information going to all of the different groups. It assures that they’re all sharing what they have.

David: What would the purpose be for apparently being in a nuclear showdown with Russia in the world but then very nicely collaborating with them at Area 51? Why would there be such a division?

Corey: Well, the collaboration with the Russians during the height of the Cold War openly in these bases was . . . you didn’t see it that much. It was towards the end of the Cold War, most of it after the Cold War, when we started making agreements with China and Russia and India and some of these other groups.

And we also have people from India and a couple of other nations that we work closely with and share technology with, because we found out that they were getting pretty far in their development, as well.

So sharing this information is also a way of managing it if you have agreements between all of these different nations.

David: Now, he mentioned 39 people losing their lives in the course of working on UFOs, but then he also said 19 people died when they flew with conventional flying craft towards a UFO in the sky, and it apparently defended itself.

Let’s break these things down. So, first of all, the number 39, based on all the stuff that is really known, seems very, very small.

Corey: He could have been just quickly passing over without giving much detail. It could have been 39 Lockheed employees that have worked on these programs that he knows about.

David: Right. Wouldn’t you think, though, that the total number of people who lost their lives trying to back engineer UFOs would be a lot higher than 39?

Corey: Absolutely. There have just . . . We’ve lost a lot of lives just retrieving the craft before we’re able to begin reverse engineering them.

David: Wow!

Corey: So, yeah. Lots of lives have been lost retrieving them, reverse engineering them. And then we have back during the German Secret Space Program when they developed it, we had a lot of Germans dying in the process, a lot of scientists dying producing these technologies, not to mention all of the slave labor they had.

David: All right. In our final section of the interview footage from Boyd Bushman, we have a very interesting Roswell-like incident that he tells us about.

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BATTLE OVER NEW MEXICO

Boyd Bushman: Turned out to be a doctor. He was a very, very fine gentleman, and I was carrying on a conversation with him. He saw how the subject was going, so he simply said, “Well, you need to know what I did one day.”

And I said, “Okay.”

He said, “I was in the process of doctoring a pilot who was a test pilot, Navy test pilot, for the United States government, and it was 1947.”

He basically told me that he was . . . that “they, the radar group, had found a blip out over New Mexico, and that they would like to assign me to go out and check it out.”

So he says, “Fine. I’ll do that.” And he got the fastest airplane that existed then, which was a propeller at that time. And it was fully armed and all the rest of those things.

He was out flying, and he found the item, and he immediately communicated back, and he said, “I wish authority . . . First of all, I want you to tell me, are there any other airplanes flying? Are there commercial or anything else around other than he and I?”

They said, “Just the two of you.”

And he said, “Fine. Second thing I wanted to know is do I have authority to shoot it down?”

They said, “Why do you want authority to shoot it down?”

He says, “Because I am flying the fastest thing that the United States can make, and he’s beginning to leave me. Therefore, I know he’s either a friend or an enemy, and if he’s leaving me, he’s an enemy. Therefore, I wish authority to shoot it down.”

The commander said, “Fine.” He granted him authority.

He pulled in. He shot him down. It came down.

He flew past and saw that there was a road on the one side of the fenced area. He came down and landed his airplane. Hard to do, but he did. And then he cut across the fence.

One of them . . . The door was open. One of them was out, walking around, but he didn’t care about that. He cared about what the vehicle was.

So he went over, and rather strangely enough, when he ducked down – because they’re only 5′ high – he saw that he could see through the walls. Not only that, but as he stepped in, the floor was spongy.

He look at the three that were there, and they were dead. He knew they were. He’d killed them. But he also knew that the military would come, and he’d put up with those guys for a long time.

So he went over, went back across the barbed wire fence, got in his airplane and took off.

When I got up with my contacts in Area 51, I brought up that story, and they said, “Well, that’s totally true, but we can’t say it. You can.”

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David: All right. So this is clearly a story that gives us detail into the fact that there are vulnerabilities to these ETs. They are not necessarily like the Battle of Los Angeles, where this thing’s got a shield around itself as our military is firing at it and nothing seems to have happened to it.

Some of these craft, apparently, can be shot down. Is that, in fact, true?

Corey: Yes. And if you catch them at different stages in their flight – and I don’t know what those stages are – they are vulnerable to high energy, disruptive weapons. Like they said, the radar may have taken down the Roswell craft.

So a lot of these can be taken down with high energy weapons. It’s rare that you hear of them taken down with a kinetic weapon.

I don’t know if a missile was used. It sounds like it might have been hot lead that took them down.

David: Right.

Corey: So that would be a very rare occasion. I would be speculating why they were able to not only get that close to get within range of this craft to be able to shoot without them taking evasive maneuvers.

So I’d have to speculate what was going on at the time with the nonterrestrial craft.

David: He mentioned when he went inside the craft that the wall became transparent, and you could see all around. Is that a normal thing for one of these?

Corey: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is very common. You will see no windows, but everywhere from inside a craft, you can see. It looks like there are no panels at all, like you’re just looking out through an open area.

David: Is it common for stories like this to get passed around, like scuttlebutt in maybe cafeterias, and this kind of stuff?

Corey: That’s usually after a couple of beers in a bar that they feel comfortable talking about that. Usually beer is involved.

David: Ha, ha, ha. All right. Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode, giving you a unique insight into Boyd Bushman, who was widely publicized in the media with this unique testimony, clearly intended to be part of an ongoing disclosure to bring us the truth.

I’m David Wilcock here with Corey Goode, and we thank you for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: ANTARCTICA: THE NEW AREA 51

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode. Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: Everybody is talking about Antarctica, and your information is that there is a very interesting new finding or series of findings down there, and the more that this goes on, the more you’ve learned.

So tell us what’s new in this whole Antarctica story that we haven’t already been covering?

Corey: Well, some of the newest information that I received is information that’s going to make some of the military-industrial complex a little nervous.

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It turns out that during the 1950s, there was a project called Project Ice Worm, and they were basically in icecaps building launch silos.

This particular one that we have video of occurred in Greenland. Now what’s significant about this is that they’ve used this method of creating under-ice bases all through Antarctica.

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They’ve created mini-bases, but much larger, that have become R&D bases. And these research and development bases are where companies like Lockheed Martin are doing reverse engineering of a lot of the technology they have found under the ice.

This is also how they built some of the early Moon bases and Mars bases – very similar – in a very similar fashion.

David: So you’re saying that Lockheed Martin and other groups have bases in Antarctica that are more extensive than what we were led to believe or what you were led to believe in earlier briefings?

Corey: Correct, but what’s significant about talking about this publicly is that, I believe in 1959, an Antarctic Treaty was signed.

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And in that treaty it was stated that no weapons of war would be developed or used on that continent.

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It would be used for peaceful purposes only.

David: Yeah, there actually was something called International Geophysical Year 1959, IGY 1959, and that was when all these things were codified.

Corey: Correct.

David: And that’s also when they mapped out what Antarctica looked like under the ice, and you found out that there is a continent with land down there.

Corey: Right, twice the size of the continental United States.

David: Right. So if they are developing weapons systems that contravene an international treaty that’s been in place for over 50 years, how does that affect people’s perceptions of these defense contractors once this comes out?

Corey: That aside, the scariest thing is that some of the Alliance groups . . . If this information gets out in the public, they will have full reason to set up a blockade – it would be similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis – to set up a blockade of a certain area of Antarctica, and they would try to force these groups to show what’s going on inside these R&D bases.

Now, some other interesting information is that they have what they . . . They’re referring to this as a part of an Antarctic Area 51.

There is also a very large former Nazi base that was turned over to the military-industrial complex, if you want to say that, more like the shadow government.

And this former German base was used as a secret space program port. It is now a major port – spaceport – for this shadow government.

They use it to fly in and out of the atmosphere all the time. And a lot of these craft will service some of these space stations or fly beyond.

David: We did cover this in another episode, but I’d like to ask you again for this one. What would be the tactical or strategic significance of having a big spaceport in Antarctica? It seems like it’s an inconvenient place to travel to.

Corey: Well, it is, but the electromagnetics you have to deal with from the atmosphere and the gravitational field is more conducive, even though they’re using antigravity craft.

A lot of the times, when they fire rockets, they try to fire them close to the equator . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . for certain purposes. And also, if you’re flying a bunch of classified craft in and out of the atmosphere on a regular basis, you know, Area 51, or out in Nevada or Arizona, those places aren’t going to cut it. You’re going to want a place where you have complete control, and it’s very hard for prying eyes to see what’s going on.

David: When you mentioned the Earth’s electromagnetic field, what is it about the South Pole that makes that more conducive to a launch?

Corey: I guess there’s less of the Van Allen Belt effect going on.

David: Okay. There was a very interesting episode of Ancient Aliens, and in this episode they had Linda Moulton Howe, who has a show on Gaia, giving a very interesting insider testimony about a man who was a pilot and who flew in a restricted area and saw a gigantic hole in the ice over Antarctica, and said that craft were coming and going from it.

What does that have to do, if anything, with what you’re hearing about what’s going on in Antarctica?

Corey: I’m told this area was very close to the spaceport. So, yeah, that is VERY significant, but what also is significant is that he was flying . . . the reason he saw this hole . . . it was in a restricted airspace. He flew over it because it was an emergency, and they were picking up – I can’t remember how many – scientists that had disappeared for about two weeks.

And you don’t disappear for two weeks in Antarctica and survive unless you have cover and supplies. So these scientists that he picked up were petrified. They’d obviously been told not to talk to anyone. They wouldn’t say a word the whole time they flew back to where they were being cared for.

David: You had mentioned in updates that you recently put out that there was something about the gases having to do with why this hole is there. So could you talk about why is there a hole in the ice, and how does that factor in with the excavations that are going on now?

Corey: Right. There are more than one of these holes, and they’re natural. They occurred mostly natural. They’re geothermal vents.

It appears that what’s occurring is that the continent is heating up under the ice. There’s a lot of geothermal activity going on that’s causing the under-ice lakes to significantly heat up and it’s heating up the ice shelf itself.

Now what this is doing is it’s causing the ice to start to melt at a quicker rate. So these . . . It’s a geothermal ice vent, and they have widened it for their purposes of flying in and out, and also using it as a way to vent out all of the heat that they’re creating with their excavations.

David: Could they be using that heated air to potentially channel it, much like you would steer a river with irrigation projects?

Corey: No. They’re trying to vent out as much of the heat as they can, because it is destabilizing these ice caverns that they’ve created.

You have to understand that the ice is moving at about a foot a day. And they’re at a stationary point under the ice.

So not only are they excavating in this direction [Corey moves his hand in one direction outward] to uncover new artifacts, but they have to constantly excavate in this direction [Corey moves his hand to the opposite side] as the ice flow occurs.

This is compounding the thermal issues that are going on, because we’re using different types of steam pressure to excavate, and when that melts the snow, it causes under-ice rivers, and that’s further lubricating the ice shelf. So there are some significant issues that it can cause.

If they continue what they’re doing and this ice shelf were to break off and fall into the water, it could cause tsunamis and other obvious problems.

David: It was interesting that in January, all of a sudden, there were news items in the mainstream media in which all these people were being evacuated from some of the main bases in Antarctica, and the story was that there was a big crack, and they were fearing that it could break off into the sea.

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Corey: Yeah, the entire ice shelf is going slushy under their feet. The temperature is raised like one degree in . . . I can’t remember the time period that it’s raised one degree, but one degree is significant in the ocean and on a ice shelf. One degree can make a major difference in the rate of melt.

David: It does sound familiar to me because we have other data that supports this: one of them being all the volcanic activity in the world from 1875 to 1993 was mapped out, and there was a 500% increase in global volcanic activity during that time.

So is that what’s causing this?

Corey: Yes, and according to the information I have, these energetic changes that are occurring in our Solar System are causing this heating up process on our planet and other planets as well.

David: We have this idea that we talked about before, that Pete Peterson said there was one mothership that he estimated, based on his intel, as being 30 miles across and having a kind of elongated oval shape.

You then said that there were three.

Corey: Yes, but . . .

David: So what’s the latest data on that?

Corey: The information I got was that they wanted me to give clarity that there was one miles-long craft that was up to three miles and oval shaped, and then there were two smaller, I guess, support-type craft that would be in a fleet that survived the attack and trip down from the Moon to here.

David: So this was something they felt was important for you to clarify for everybody – that it’s not 30 miles wide. It’s only more like three miles wide?

Corey: Right. Yeah, they thought that a little bit of clarity on that was in order.

David: Okay. But that is still an absolutely spectacularly large object.

Corey: Absolutely. And in the largest craft, there have indeed been located a bunch of beings in stasis, and they are the original beings from, I guess, Mars, that had come here – the original pre-Adamites.

Most of the ones that we’ve been dealing with since this great catastrophe are some sort of hybridized type of pre-Adamite that survived.

It’s obvious that the pre-Adamite group, before they had to move here, had already been taking part in these genetic experiments, according to whatever agreements that were made with these other groups.
There are up to 22 different genetic programs going on.

David: Oh, so the pre-Adamites were part of the genetic farmer initiative?

Corey: Right. They were taking part, but they seemed to have a problem getting along with other groups. They were warlike. They tended to strike first and ask questions later.

David: When we’re dealing with this subject of Antarctica, something comes up for me, very interesting, which is that one of my other insiders, Daniel, said that there was one natural ancient stargate on Earth.

He told me this years ago, and I put it on the Internet, . . .

Corey: I was about to lead into that.

David: . . . and that it was in Antarctica.

Corey: Yes.

David: So something that you said recently, not on our camera yet, just blew my mind, because it’s a perfect one-to-one correlation. So could you talk about that?

Corey: One of the most important aspects of this Ancient Builder Race technology that they were trying to control was that there was a very powerful Supergate that is in Antarctica. And it was built by the Ancient Builder Race.

David: I’m sorry. Let me hold you right there. What is the difference between a Supergate and a stargate? Because you never said ‘Supergate’ before.

Corey: A Supergate has the ability to travel from one end to the other through the cosmic web, no matter how far it is – anywhere within our galaxy or to local galaxies.

David: Right. That’s exactly how Daniel described it.

Corey: Right. Now, these other nodes that we have on the planet, you have to jump a few times to get to your location if it’s very far.

David: So it would be like getting a transfer? You have to stop in one place, get out of a gate, to go another location, and then another one?

Corey: You have to wait for the electromagnetics to line up properly between different planets . . .

David: Oh!

Corey: . . . as they are spinning and turning within their local star system in relation to their star with those electromagnetic connections between their planet and their star, and then their star and our star have an electromagnetic connection through this cosmic web.

And those present electromagnetic, I guess, tubes for matter to go from point A to point B through.

David: Do they have the ability, when they make these stopovers, to fast forward time? Do they have time acceleration capability, or do they have to build little resorts that they would stay in in order to wait for the next gate to open and kill some time?

Corey: No, they do have to wait and kill time.

David: How long might they be waiting?

Corey: It just depends on where they’re traveling and how long it’s going to take this – it’s like a big clock – wait for all the mechanisms to be lined up just properly.

David: Are you saying that some of these waits might be years in duration for our time?

Corey: I’m sure they plan it out much better than that. Yeah, they have all the mathematics for predicting all of these locations that they want to go to down very well.

David: So you’re saying that the Supergate isn’t like that. The Supergate will take you wherever you want to go, . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . whenever you want to go.

Corey: Right, and it’s a part of a . . . very much like Stargate Atlantis or SG1. An Ancient Builder Race built a network of stargates that are very powerful and very reliable. They can be turned on and used at any time. You don’t have to wait for calculations. Now, . . .

David: What about the ring shape that we see in Stargate? How does that compare with what it looks like?

Corey: It doesn’t look anything like what they show.

David: Oh!

Corey: No. Usually, you have . . . You’re in the middle of the room. The middle of the room is open.

David: What’s ‘the room’, first of all? So it’s an indoor structure?

Corey: Well, just gates in general.

David: Okay.

Corey: There’s not some sort of orifice that you walk through.

David: Okay.

Corey: Usually, there is at least three different points that are opening, that are out in the periphery of the room, opening in a empty part of the room, a vortex that is a three-dimensional ball that looks like a mirage.

David: Okay.

Corey: And as people walk into it from all directions, it looks like they’re shrinking as they . . . almost like they’re walking downhill. They’re going down into it.

And it’s pretty much the same in this Supergate.

One of the things that I haven’t mentioned is that they can, by the amount of energy they feed and the type of energy they feed in, and at what oscillations, they can use these gates for traveling in time as well.

David: So the room, then, you’re saying, is like an Ancient Builder Race underground facility that you would go into?

Corey: Yes.

David: Could you paint for us a picture of how big that room is? Is it primarily just the three emitters in the room, and you walk into the center, or might that be part of a bigger facility?

Corey: I haven’t actually seen it with my own eyes.

David: Oh, okay.

Corey: But most of the Ancient Builder Race technology are built in very large rooms with very large hallways and doorways, so these were not small beings.

David: So this idea of the Supergate and the Ancient Builder Race, it seems to me like it couldn’t just be one Ancient Builder Race if it’s outside of our own galaxy, that there might have been some ancient effort to do this on a widespread scale. Do you have any specifics on that?

Corey: Most of the information I’ve had is that they created this stargate system in this local star cluster of 50, 52 stars.

Now, they do branch out and go to other locations, but this race could have . . . They had plenty of time to map out the galaxy and put stargate locations where they wanted.

They could very well have collaborated with other races in ancient times.

David: Daniel’s testimony, also, I just want to get this in, was that you couldn’t bring metal or any type of weapons or anything that was non-organic through these original Ancient Builder gates.

I’m curious if you ever heard about that one way or the other.

Corey: No, they had some issues. They had some calibration issues that took them a while to figure out. The gates had to be calibrated, somehow. They were in time-space and in some sort of a network communicating with each other, and they figured out how to do it.

They ended up getting the gate to where they could bring anything from point A to point B. Now, the biggest problem they had were when they were creating their own stargates with our technology. In the beginning, we could only send supplies from one place to another, and then we would take a craft there, because organics would not make it from point A to point B intact.

David: When you say ‘they’ were making stargates, which ‘they’ are we talking about now?

Corey: The precursor to all of these Secret Space Programs, back in the ’50s and ’60s when they were figuring out how to do portal travel . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . with the technology they had back-engineered from non-terrestrials.

David: One of the things that Daniel said about the Supergate was that the early, early 1970s’ analysis of it led to the development of the IP address protocol for the Internet, because apparently every gate location has a numerical address similar to what we use for the Internet.

I’m curious about your thoughts on that.

Corey: Yes. I don’t know if ARPANET developed TCP/IP communication protocols to mimic what was occurring in the Supergate, or if they even knew about it, but they work very much the same.

You even have subnet masks to mask certain gate systems so you don’t end up going there.

Yeah, it works in a very similar way.

David: Okay, let’s get back to these pre-Adamites, and you say that they were shot and burning. They crash land in this continent that was not, obviously, a glacier back then.

What was the strategic significance for them having access to the Supergate? Did they have a surviving part of their civilization that they could still visit with it, or were they trying to visit other civilizations? What was their goal?

Corey: You know, I really don’t know what they were do . . . They wanted control of the gate, but not all of their species were trapped with them.

Originally, when they had escaped from the exploding planet, and then later on, when Mars became uninhabitable because of further warfare, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . a large group of them went towards the outer Solar System and out and away, and then another group of them went towards the Moon and Earth.

David: Ah! So they were able to reach out to some of their lost refugees once they gained control of this gate?

Corey: That would . . . That would make sense.

David: It does make sense.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So who’s in control of the Supergate right now?

Corey: This same shadow government group that has control over the spaceport and this Antarctic Area 51 area. It’s the same group.

They have control over it, and they’re trying to figure out what to do with a lot of this. They’re finding so much.

Obviously, they’re learning to back-engineer and cannibalize that technology to add to our existing space fleet technology.

David: Now, in our previous update, you mentioned Ka’Aree and others bringing you to some kind of library in Antarctica.

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And you witnessed the extraction of scrolls from this library, but at the time, you did not know what they were or what the purpose of this was.

Do you have any further information on that now?

Corey: Well, you know according to Sigmund, what they were looking for down there were files, basically, that had, I guess, a multigenerational bloodline list that traced way, way back – back . . . It was a historical document even before their planet exploded.

Now, what’s interesting is that everything in their society depends on bloodline – where you are in the hierarchy. The way they apply their laws had to do with where you were in this bloodline hierarchy.

So these are very, very important scrolls for them for a number of reasons.

They also wanted to be able to genetically tie themselves to this pre-Adamite race and then set up this pre-Adamite race as being basically gods, and they would be demi-gods.

David: ‘They’ meaning the Cabal?

Corey: The Cabal.

David: So this would have given them, using a legal term, this would have given them the imprimatur to claim this divine right of kings . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . and an extraterrestrial bloodline.

Corey: Right. And then internally, the documents were important because it’s how they jockey for position and apply laws. It’s a very . . . It’s a cultural thing as well. It’s very important.

David: So why do you think the Anshar felt it was of such strategic significance to remove this, and why, also, would they want you to have witnessed it?

Corey: I don’t know why they want me to witness certain things, but sometimes they have me witness things and it just doesn’t really make sense to me.

But they obviously were removing these documents to disrupt future plans by the Cabal and some of these non-terrestrial groups working with them.

David: Would you argue that they wanted you to witness this so that everyone following this story would know about it?

Corey: I think since I’m reporting the information, they wanted me to witness it firsthand.

David: Have their been further Anshar meetings since the last updates that we did on this show, and if so, what have they told you?

Corey: Yes, I have met mainly with Ka’Aree in The Construct. And I asked her if what Sigmund told me was true, and she confirmed that, yes, that’s the reason that they took the documents was to disrupt operations by the Cabal group, and also prevent them from being able to do a divine right of kings kind of thing.

David: One of the most remarkable plot twists for me was that after you and I had already exchanged a great deal of information on this, I called up Pete Peterson, and he starts telling me almost exactly the same stuff, but one of the differences was that he said in one of these ships that had been converted into a very advanced base, that there were groups of people who survived the Atlantean catastrophe but had gotten locked in there.

And then, apparently, our people finally dug them out. And this is only something that happened, apparently, recently.

So what are you thoughts on all that?

Corey: It’s a little different than the information I received. I received information that they found very small pockets of a lot of these basically genetic experiments and humans from this pre-Adamite group.

David: Living, you’re saying.

Corey: Living. That had been living basically in cavernous areas under the ice that were discovered.

I had no information about people surviving inside the ship. The information I had was that – and it would match if there were people in – was that up until the last couple of decades, it was completely ice-locked.

And when they went inside, there wouldn’t be a whole lot of technology left inside this cannibalized ship to sustain anyone for any amount of time.

David: Right.

Corey: They took all of this technology out and put it into this new city that they built. So it’s a little big of a divergence.

David: So these people could take light sources that they build, remove them from the ship, go into these caverns, grow food and have water that they can melt and make available to themselves, so they basically can have a sustainable society.

Corey: Yes, and there’s also less, I guess, advanced ways of getting protein and vitamins and minerals, other than using technology. There is an ecosystem underground that they could probably use as well.

David: You said that some of these people were chimeras, these animal-human hybrids?

Corey: Yes.

David: What types have survived?

Corey: I haven’t heard the specifics, other than there were humans, and then some of these strange sort of experiments that were being created by the Pre-Adamites.

David: So let’s talk a little bit about these stasis beings. They trace all the way back, you’re saying, to this Super Earth before it blew up 500,000 years ago.

How many of these beings are there, and is there any way to wake them?

Corey: Well, I don’t know the exact number. There are a number of them that are in stasis.

David: Tens, hundreds, thousands?

Corey: Nowhere near that many. I think it’s maybe a handful, a dozen.

David: Okay.

Corey: And this group has put themselves in stasis at some ancient point, and they’ve been in this ship for a long time. And it was very important for the people that were guarding them to also get them down to Earth and hook up to the power source that the Ancient Builder Race was using to help them keep this stasis chamber and the ship working.

It is piped right into the Ancient Builder Race power source.

And they have figured a way to awaken them. They are unable to awaken one at a time. They have to awaken them all at the same time.

And there are a lot of security concerns about what’s going to happen after they wake them.

I mean, everyone who has seen the movie Prometheus will see where the concerns are.

David: So you’re saying that this would be a being that has literally edited out the last half million years of history, and wakes up knowing only that it went down when its planet either had been destroyed or was about to be destroyed.

Corey: Right.

David: How are they addressing the problem of these beings potentially being very dangerous when they wake up?

Corey: Well, there’s pretty much a committee trying to figure out whether they’re going to wake them or not. But in case they decide to wake them, they have these little mini-nukes, like these fifth-generation type nuke weapons that they have sitting right in the middle of all these beings in stasis.

And when they awaken these . . . if they awaken these beings, they’re going to have the people there with, basically, dead man triggers.

If the pre-Adamites become violent or hostile, then they can be eradicated very quickly with a large nuclear explosion.

David: Well, this is really fascinating, and I thank you for continuing to be on the front lines and having these experiences to share with us. It’s very, very interesting.

And again, even if you don’t believe this, necessarily, it’s a very fascinating story, far deeper and more complex, with threads to so many things that I’ve been researching over the years. I find it very believable in light of all the data that surrounds this.

I’m David Wilcock. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”, and I thank you for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: REVEALING THE ORIGINAL SECRET SPACE VEHICLES WITH MARK MCCANDLISH

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I hope you’re having an amazing day, and maybe after you see this episode, it’s going to become even more amazing. I’m here with Corey Goode, and we have a special guest today, Mark McCandlish, one of the original thirty-nine whistleblowers who came forward at the Disclosure Project event on May 9, 2001, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. to disclose the reality of the extraterrestrial presence on Earth.

|So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: All right. We’re going to start now with an intro and overview of Mark, in his own words, from his background. Let’s take a look.

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MARK’S STORY

Mark McCandlish: My electronics aptitude was so high right out of high school that the Air Force was really enthusiastic about getting me to work on something like a weapons control system on aircraft. So that’s where I wound up going.

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After I got out of the Air Force, I used the GI Bill to go to Brigham Young University, studying design illustration. And then I went to Art Center College of Design as an automotive design major and eventually changed my major to just straight illustration when I began to see that the bottom was about to fall out of the automotive industry, and they weren’t going to be hiring any designers in the late ’70s, early ’80s.

And that’s when I went to work for the defense industry.

I had been approached by the Calabasas Division of Lockheed, and I think this was right at or right before the time that Lockheed joined with Martin Marietta and became Lockheed Martin.

And the gentleman that had asked me to prepare this illustration said that, “We can’t tell you what it looks like. We can’t tell you anything about the aircraft, only that it’s the second generation in an existing family of extremely high speed, high altitude aircraft.

And so we need you to draw a picture of something that looks really fast.

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So I looked around, and the two fastest aircraft that I was aware of at the time was, of course, the SR-71 Blackbird, which is Mach 3 , and then the prototype XB-70 Valkyrie that was built by Rockwell International’s North American Aircraft Division.

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So I combined features from those two aircraft, and I thought, this is a really cool-looking aircraft.

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And I went in, and much to my surprise, they had a couple of engineers from Lockheed Skunk Works there.

And it was an order gentleman with glasses, a receding hairline. And they were actually wearing little white lab coats with the pocket protector and the slide rule and this kind of thing.

And so I opened up my sketchpad, and I turned around, and I slid it across this big, beautiful, mahogany table in this conference room.

And right away, I could see that something was wrong. The gentleman both took on an appearance of being kind of startled, like they were seeing something they weren’t expecting.

And then one of the two gentlemen – the man with the glasses, the receding hairline – you could literally see his face turn red. You could see beads of sweat starting to form on his forehead and his lip. And his hands started to tremble.

And he slams his hand down on the notepad, and he says, “What are these canards, and what are these winglets out on the wings? Those would be torn off at Mach 17 . . .” And he stopped himself right there as he said “Mach 17”.

And I thought, “That’s 12,000 miles an hour [19,300 kph]!”

And they were both upset. And they were upset in a way that, at first, I thought it was because I didn’t do a good job, because the illustration didn’t look credible.

And then I thought, “No, this is something else.” They’re reacting because I’ve hit something. I’ve hit the nail right on the head with this illustration, and they may perceive that what I’ve done here is because of some kind of a leak – some kind of an information leak.

And so the first thing I did was I tried to assure them by saying, “Well, look, I’ll be happy to illustrate whatever you want, but the fact is, I just don’t know what your aircraft looks like because nobody’s told me. They said they can’t tell me. The design is classified. So what I’ve done here is I’ve combined most of the most interesting features from these two aircraft – the two fastest aircraft that I know of – the SR-71 and the XB-70.”

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And so then they kind of calmed down a little bit and relaxed. But at that point, the cat was already out of the bag. They’d said “Mach 17”.

It really pointed out to me that there were some programs that were going on. And, of course, you always assume that there’s something classified going on all the time behind the scenes.

But as far as aircraft design was concerned, it really helped to illustrate that there were things going on – advanced projects – that were really pushing the envelope in terms of material use, high speed, high altitude and propulsion systems that had never been seen before – these supersonic combustion ramjet or scramjet engines.

And so it was an eye-opener. That’s for sure. It let me know that there were other things out there that the general public didn’t know about.

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David: Okay. So what you see there is very interesting. Here’s a guy who’s describing having a direct one-on-one meeting with insiders from Lockheed Martin Skunk Works.

And they told him that canards and winglets on the plane would fall off at Mach 17. So clearly, he had access to the real deal.

Corey, what were your thoughts as you watched this clip?

Corey: It was pretty interesting. I had seen information about these early planes that they were developing, and they were very, extremely aerodynamic.

But when he was talking, for some reason – it popped in my mind – I remember a type of engineered crystal that they were using that they would put on the outside of these craft that . . . You know, like piezoelectric crystals. If you hit them, they’ll give off an electrical charge?

David: Yeah, sure.

Corey: These convert friction heat into electric charges.

David: Oh, that makes sense.

Corey: And then the skin of the plane would have this crystalline material painted over it. And then the heat would be turned into electricity. The electricity would transfer through the skin of the plane into something that would quickly store the electricity. So it would be kind of like a heat sink.

It would be pulling electricity very quickly, and heat couldn’t build up.

David: Well, let me just mention that there are known things called photo cells, which we already have in electronics, where they can sense a light source and actually convert that light to electricity.

So this idea of basically what you’re describing as a thermal couple on the outside of the plane, that’s totally plausible within electronics that that could work. I just never thought of it before. It’s fascinating.

Corey: Right. I’d forgotten about it, too. It just popped in my head when I was watching that clip.

David: So Mach 17, . . . of course, some of the people watching this may not be aware that conventional aeronautics . . . even Mach 4, Mach 5, is considered extraordinary.

What are the speeds that you encountered with some of the craft that are in the classified world that he got a little taste of here?

Corey: Well, yeah, there was a lot of talk of craft that were being developed between Mach 9 and Mach 20 . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that were being developed that were mostly for flying in the atmosphere – test craft to get to a point where they could develop craft that could fly in and out of the atmosphere.

David: So is it normal for somebody like Mark McCandlish to have this background of industrial design – he said that he majored, at first, in drawing automobiles and getting really nice technical illustrations of them, and then in his case, going into the defense industry – that a guy with those skills could end up potentially in some kind of classified program?

Corey: Absolutely. They need people of all skill sets. You’re going to run across a lot of draftsmen, artists, that worked for the government that have a lot of knowledge like he does.

David: Now, another thing that is interesting to me was he mentions Brigham Young University. And Pete, tongue-in-cheek, called that whole area – Utah, Idaho, etc. – “Mormania”. And it was originally a joke, but apparently, on the inside, they now actually use that term – that what I’ve heard from him – and I want to get your thoughts on this – is that many people who worked for the CIA and other intelligence agencies are recruited from Mormon states in America, that there is a Mormon component to the black ops world.

So I’m curious if you ever heard anything about that?

Corey: Yes. I read on the smart glass pad about how different Mormon groups were creating vaults underground and were reporting back to the intelligence agencies that they were encountering beings when they were trying to build their facilities underground.

David: Beings that were not human?

Corey: Correct.

David: When we see a guy like McCandlish coming out and talking about this, what do you think he had to gain from this? In other words, I don’t see any evidence. I don’t think he’s ever written a book.

He kind of went off the radar after Disclosure Project in 2001. Now here it is, 16 years later, he pops up again.

So do you think that there’s any self-interest or manipulation going on here? What’s his objective?

Corey: One of the things you see quite often with whistleblowers is that in the process of being a whistleblower, they end up losing their careers. And he pretty much lost his career within all of the defense industry and basically was in hiding for a while from what I hear.

David: All right. We’re going to now continue with some more footage for you to check out. This is the second part of our groundbreaking interview with Mark McCandlish. Let’s check it out.

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COVERT CRAFT

Mark McCandlish: Well, this is a story that came to me through another aviation artist that . . . One of my contemporaries met this fellow and a friend of his at an air show at the old Chino Air Base where they brought a lot of the aircraft after the Second World War to be demolished and scrapped for their aluminum and so forth.

And he was saying that this fellow had a friend who was a former astronaut – it was one of the Buzz astronauts, Buzz Aldrin or Buzz Carpenter – one of these gentlemen.

And this individual was flying a Learjet, ferrying it from one location to another, and he was passing over North Central Nevada at the time – broken clouds and this kind of thing.

And he comes out of some clouds and into an open air space, and below him and to the left is this black aircraft that looks sort of like a flattened-out football shape.

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And on the back end of it, it has not only a vertical stabilizer or a tail on the top, but there was another one down below.

A lot of people don’t know that the early A-12 version of the SR-71 Blackbird also had the same feature. It had a folding vertical stabilizer on the ventral surface on the underside of the aircraft.

But this aircraft had an unusual inlet design. It wasn’t the typical thing where you have a big hole hanging down underneath the wing where the air for the engine comes in.

This thing had, what looked like, a pair of these triangular-shaped NACA ducts near the leading edge of this.

There were no wings, no tail feathers – nothing. It was just sort of a lifting body design, like a flattened-out football shape.

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Control surfaces along the leading edges and on the trailing edges, but the inlets were a pair of NACA ducts.

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And then at the back end were a pair of trapezoid-shaped exhaust ports. But then at the midsection, the widest part of this platform, was a ridge. And along the trailing edge of the ridge were what appeared to be a number of fuel injectors pointing outward where it was obvious at some point in the flight regime of the aircraft, there would be something expelled from those ports.

And it was actually operating kind of like the whole back end of the aircraft was a linear aerospike engine, which has that kind of a configuration.

The pilot is there, and he looks at this plane and realizes that if he hadn’t seen it directly that he might have collided with it in the clouds.

And so he gets ahold of the ground control operator for that region, and he says, “Why didn’t you inform me that there was another aircraft in my vicinity?”

And he said, “Well . . . “ The response was, “. . . because there isn’t any. We don’t have anything on radar at all.”

And he says, “Well, the hell there isn’t.” He says, “I’m looking at a plane right now. It’s black. It has the two tails.” He described what he was seeing, “I’m in his 5 o’clock position.”

And there’s a long silence on the radio.

And then all of a sudden, he can see in the window, the cockpit – it’s kind of like the X-15 cockpit where it’s mostly aircraft with just a little tiny window and a splitter in the front. And he sees the face of the pilot look around at him like this, and like, “Oh, crap!”, and banks away and goes into one of the clouds and disappears.

So a little while later, there’s another voice that comes onto the radio – a deeper voice, a more serious voice, and he says, “Okay, pilot zone, so you need to change your heading and come in to Nellis Air Force Base, and we need you to land there and be debriefed. And I want you to roll out and stay at the end of the runway. You will be met at the end of the runway.”

And so then they take him in, and they put him through interrogation and make it real clear that what he saw was something that doesn’t officially exist, and he’s not to talk about it.

But eventually, apparently, he did tell someone, including this colleague of mine who shared the story with me.

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David: The first thing I thought of when he said a ‘squashed football’ was your description of the Dark Fleet craft which you said have a dark teardrop-type of shape.

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Corey: Right.

David: But based on the illustration that McCandlish made here, is that what we’re looking at, or is this something else?

Corey: I knew immediately, the way he was describing the craft with the two fins, the two stabilizers, that it was a test craft from the military. I’ve read before about these vertical stabilizers, that are on the top and bottom, that, at a certain stage in flight, the bottom one drops to give them further stabilization.

David: Well, he had the location right, because he said this witness saw this over Nevada.

Corey: Right.

David: So there you go. That’s your Area 51.

Corey: Right. That’s a good place to see test craft.

I’ve received quite a few emails from pilots, that don’t want to go public because of their jobs, that have described seeing very similar things.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah.

David: One of the insiders that I have had contact with – I met through Pete Peterson – he claims to have been able to build eight different types of anti-gravity device. And he worked on aerospace design.

He has described that a lot of times these planes were built, and then they were mothballed. And he believed that the purpose was money laundering – that the plane was said to cost much more than it really did. It justifies these budgets.

The actual money spent on it might be much less, and then the less of the money goes to some other thing. Have you heard of that, and if so, where’s the money going?

Corey: Yes. A lot of these contracting companies are . . . I mean, everyone’s heard about $200 hammers, $300 toilet seats . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that kind of thing. That occurs all the time to bring in extra money for black budgets. So that’s fairly common.

David: What might some of those black budgets be? I mean, wouldn’t this plane be the goal . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . or would it be something else?

Corey: Something like this probably came from a budget from a craft or something they were building that was known. And then they overcharged for that craft . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . and funneled that money into a craft like this. And a lot of times they’ll build these craft. They’ll put millions of dollars into building a craft like this just to prove a certain concept for future craft that they’ll fly around a few times, and then they mothball them or take them apart.

David: Right. So given the design and the shape of this particular craft, what type of usefulness to you think it might have?

Corey: I think they were trying to increase stabilized flight past Mach 3 to 5, most likely.

David: It doesn’t really look like it would capture air like a wing. Do you think there’s some sort of anti-gravity component to how this works?

Corey: No. This is a conventional jet. It’s just really advanced technology. It’s kind of like what he was talking about – sort of like a ramjet. It brings in the air at the wings and expels the gases and air out the back to propel it.

David: All right. Next, we have another very interesting and strange story from Mark McCandlish, which I’m sure you’re going to like. Let’s check it out.

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SURPRISING TECHNOLOGY

Mark McCandlish: There was a gentleman, and I don’t remember where he was located, but he had a custom of jogging early in the morning with his dog. And one of the challenges that he made for himself was he would jog on this path that would go up to the top of this hill near the town where they had the city water supply. It was a big tower.

And it was a heavily wooded area with a clearing around the tower itself.

And as they’re jogging up the hill, he comes out into the clearing where the tower is, and here is this aircraft. And it looks like a conventional jet aircraft standing on its tail, and it’s orbiting this water tower silently.

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No jet engine noise, no dust being kicked up or anything, and the pilot is just sort of playing.

And he’s just standing there with his mouth hanging open, and his dog is barking and really going crazy.

And while the pilot’s doing this, he kind of looks over his shoulder, and he sees the jogger there. “Oh, no!”

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So he lights up the after burner, and off he goes using conventional power.

So it just pointed out that there must be some other things that they’re incorporating and folding into some of the . . . maybe even the standard issue aircraft that are giving them abilities that are not completely obvious when looking at them from the outside.

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David: This is one of those stories that seems to stretch the credulity a little bit. What is your feeling about the idea that conventional aircraft might have some sort of anti-gravity that would allow them to do those types of tricks?

Corey: Well, it’s definitely not something that would be standard issue on one of the fleets right now out to sea.

David: Right.

Corey: But they have retrofitted conventional-looking craft with anti-gravity for specific reasons to be used, I guess, for special missions. It’s not something that a lot of the different lieutenant commanders out there in the Navy that fly jets . . . they’re not going to have this or know about this type of technology being incorporated into conventional craft. But it is something I’ve heard of. I haven’t seen it with my own eyes.

David: I’ve also had Peterson tell me that military aircraft are all now – or at least many of them – are equipped with a technology that he called ‘masking’. Are you familiar with that and what that’s all about?

Corey: Yeah, masking is a common term. It just means ‘camouflage’. It’s an electronic camouflage.

David: So would a masked craft still be visible once the masking is turned on?

Corey: No. No.

David: Right.

Corey: That’s the whole point of it. It pretty much . . . You’re seeing what’s behind the craft.

David: So what would the usefulness be of a pilot able to back the tail of a plane down and then turn circles around a tower like that?

Corey: That’s not really the point. The point is to be able to loiter and hover to engage targets like a helicopter would and then having the supersonic flight capabilities as well.

It’s one of the reasons also they developed the Harrier.

David: Sure.

Corey: Then you have the vertical takeoff and landing capabilities as well.

David: Now do you think it’s possible, given that he seemed to have been turning circles around a tower, that the anti-gravity, in some way, was able to partially attach to the mass of the tower and use it as a center of balance or a pivot point for him?

Corey: No. Most likely what occurred is . . . They have a lot of this smart flight technology in drones now. And it’s usually a camera that has intelligent computers connected to it.

The camera acts like an eye, focuses on like a tower, and then it will loiter and hover around a certain object.

David: Ah. So this could have all been done automatically. He was just having fun.

Corey: Right.

David: He doesn’t have to do any fancy flying at all.

Corey: Yes. It looked like he took a little time out of a normal test flight to play around a little bit on his own.

David: All right. Now we’re going to see a very interesting section of this interview where McCandlish is describing a UFO sighting that actually led to photographic evidence. Let’s take a look.

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THE CEDARVILLE UFO

Mark McCandlish: It was a fellow that I knew – his name was Arthur Reed – who took this photograph in 1982. He was just exploring northern California by car.

He was driving somewhere about 10 miles north of Cedarville, and he saw a large group of people that had pulled off the road, and they were all sort of looking off to the west.

And so he, just out of curiosity, stopped to see what it was. And off in the distance was this immense, black thing – big, large, V-shaped vehicle.

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And the shape of it was what kind of gave it away as the possible product of Lockheed Skunk Works, because it had the same sort of faceted flat surfaces like a Stealth Fire.

The craft looked an awful lot like a large black V, and in the middle of each of those two wings, or legs, or whatever you want to call them, which were really thick and not aerodynamic in any way, shape or form, but there was a large white sphere.

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And then there was one up in the very front where they kind of came together. And there were seams on the surface of the thing that looked like the different parts of the vehicle could be articulated and folded up into almost a triangular shape.

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There were a series of red lights that went from the nose back towards part of the fuselage where the wings joined together.

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And the thing was in a nose down, bank to the left, and it was hovering in this position about maybe 250 feet off the ground.

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And it was maybe a quarter of a mile to a half a mile off the roadway.

Very large. He said that he thought that this thing was somewhere between 300 and 600 feet on a side. It was that big.

He said that it was making this low, pulsating, humming sound, almost like something you’d see in a science fiction movie, sort of this [whirring sound] kind of sound. But he said it was so powerful, so loud, that you could feel it in your chest – that your chest would kind of vibrate and resonate with the sound.

And the people that were there that had pulled off the road represented kind of like a cross-section of what you’d find in America – the deeply religious people that are crying and on their knees, praying to God to deliver them from this chariot of the devil.

There were other people who were running towards it and waving and saying, “Take me for a ride”. And there were other people there hooting and hollering like they were watching a fireworks show on the 4th of July.

In the photograph, in the foreground, you can see people standing in the bed of their truck, and you’re seeing them all from the back, so you can’t tell exactly what they’re doing. But a lot of them, their arms are like this [up in front of his eyes], like they’re watching it through field glasses.

There are other people just sort of standing around, just taking it all in, watching everything.

But he said that this thing sat there for the better part of a half an hour, and that’s why there were so many people that had pulled off and were watching.

And apparently, there was some kind of a flight control issue with this thing, and it had initiated a bank, and then they couldn’t pull out of this dive, so they just stopped. And it was hovered in this banked, nose-down position.

And so apparently, whoever was working on this thing was not able to repair that particular problem. And so the way they resolved it was this thing continued in its bank. I have to turn my hand the other way to do it right, but imagine that this [his hand is now face up and he’s pointing to his palm] is the upper surface like this.

So the thing flips end over end like this [the top rising up and back], but at the same time, it continues the roll. So it goes like this [it first rolled to the right and then the nose twisted up and back], and it’s pointed up and away from the crowd.

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It starts to climb out slowly, getting louder and louder, and then it gets to about 5,000 feet and [hands slap together] gone just like that, out into space.

But he said he went back about a week later, and he parked his car in the same spot. And he was walking out to see if maybe there was any evidence on the ground that this thing had been there. Maybe something got dropped off of it, or maybe there was crop circle-type evidence – that kind of thing.

This Air Force truck comes rolling up – the dark blue with the yellow stencil on the side – “United States Air Force”. And a couple of military cops tell him he needs to get out of there and leave immediately, or they’re going to arrest him, and they’re going to impound his car. So he leaves.

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David: Well, isn’t it cool to have some really good illustrations – a guy that can back up his story with visuals like this?

Corey: And a photo – an actual photo.

David: Yeah. That’s a very interesting and bizarre-looking craft. Let’s just start by getting your thoughts as to, have you seen anything like that? What do you think its purpose might be? Is it just experimental? Was it actually used in operations, etc.?

Corey: I saw a lot of experimental craft, and a lot of them did say “Lockheed” on them, and they were faceted. And some of them were . . . I don’t know how to . . . You could manipulate or articulate different areas of the craft. So this sounds to me like it might have been one of their test craft, a concept craft.

David: So when you say ‘manipulate’ or ‘articulate’, you mean the craft can move . . .

Corey: Change configurations.

David: Shapeshift, basically.

Corey: Right.

David: What would be the value of something like that?

Corey: Well, if you have three different points that are being used, I guess, as like impulse-type engines – electrogravitic engines – usually, they have them on a type of a gimbal that you can manipulate them, turn them this way, and then pull you in that direction.

So that’s going to be kind of the same concept. And most of these that I read about were remotely controlled – the test craft. They didn’t necessarily have pilots.

David: Well, I’m thinking about the old James Bond movie where he’s got the car, and he drives it into the water, and then things all start shifting. And now that it’s in water, it’s got fins instead of tires.

Corey: Right.

David: Or it becomes a jet, and it flies, and wings come out. Is it possible that the shapeshifting has something to do with where it’s traveling, like if it’s in atmosphere or in space or something like that?

Corey: I would think it mostly has to do with controlling the attitude and pitch and yaw of the plane.

David: Just the actual manipulation.

Corey: Right.

David: Is it normal for people to be able to see one of these, or was this some kind of an accident that took place?

Corey: I think he described what most likely happened very well.

David: Right.

Corey: There was some sort of computer glitch, or they weren’t able to communicate with the craft, and it went into a loiter position. It was most likely programmed to go into a loiter position if there was an issue.

David: Now, earlier in this same episode, he was talking about how craft that are going to travel at Mach 17, that he couldn’t have these canards and winglets on the craft because they would get torn off.

The thing that strikes me is, you’re talking about a craft that has moving parts – a craft that has all these facets on it. It’s got an unusual shape.

Wouldn’t that type of a structure stress out under very high velocity and not be a good choice for a high speed aircraft?

Corey: No. Most . . . A lot of them are faceted – the craft that are supersonic.

David: Okay.

Corey: That’s actually a part of the design. It’s not only for deflecting radar, but they design them to be highly aerodynamic.

And I didn’t see anything that would cause a whole lot of drag on that craft.

David: But the joints . . . In order to have the joints be strong enough that things could move and then hold up under that velocity . . .

Corey: Most likely it moves into a different configuration.

David: Oh, for high speed?

Corey: For high speed. Right.

David: That, I can understand. So maybe the two Y-like sides of it would pull together.

Corey: Come together. Right. Right.

David: You mentioned before that the ICC – the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate – within the greater space program you were part of, was manufacturing and selling technology to over 900 extraterrestrial groups – 900 being the ones they were in regular contact with.

Would the ICC be testing anything on Earth, or would this be some other group besides them?

Corey: Well, the ICC controls a lot of these military-industrial-complex-type firms that contract this stuff. So they’re going to be overseeing it anyway and pulling in technology that they see that can be incorporated into higher technology craft.

There’s most likely an Area 51-type of Lockheed-Martin joint effort.

David: How might you use a craft like this? What would be it’s purpose? Is it an attack weapon?

Corey: Yeah. It probably has different weapons-platform packages you can put on it for reconnaissance and also weapons platform to make it a weapons platform. But most likely, that was a concept for another craft that . . . They’ll build three or four different concept craft to finally come up with one final version.

So that could have just been part of a process of creating another craft.

David: Well, that’s all the time we have for in this episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m here with Corey Goode, and we are watching the very surprising testimony of one of the original Disclosure Project 39 whistleblowers, none other than Mark McCandlish. We’ll see you next time.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: ALLYING WITH THE MIC SSP

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right, welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock, and we here with Corey Goode for another fascinating update. Without further ado, let’s hit the ground running.

Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: More recently, you have started to interact with a Military-Industrial Complex Secret Space Program. There are a lot of movies out there that, according to Pete Peterson in one of the briefings he gave me recently, are showing hardware that this group actually possesses. And they’re putting it out in the open – a movie like “The Avengers” that has a flying aircraft carrier.

So what is your knowledge about how this MIC group is working with Hollywood in maybe getting us ready for things that they’re going to show us?

Corey: Well, according to Sigmund and everyone else I’ve talked to, they are planning on doing a slow, I guess, disclosure of a certain type of secret space program that, as I stated before, the DIA, NSA and Air Force have control of.

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And they plan on making this program known, which most of the activity happens within 500 miles of the Earth. They have space stations and manned satellites within that 500 mile range.

And that’s most of that zone that they have control over.

David: In Ronald Reagan’s own handwritten book of his memoirs – comes out in 1985 while he’s still President – he kind of let slip that he was aware that we could put 300 people up into orbit. And there was certainly nothing having to do with the space shuttle that would have anywhere near the capacity to hold 300 people.

So what was he talking about there?

Corey: He was referring to this program. This program . . . There are several decent sized space stations. There are manned satellites that have anywhere from three, six, eight men on duty, or I should say people on duty, that are serviced by these triangular craft. And they exchange personnel and supplies.

This is the information that our President recently received in a briefing.

David: Really?

Corey: He received a very low-level briefing and was upset because he knew it was a low-level briefing.

David: We have reason to believe that Trump’s uncle was involved with some of this classified information as well. What is your knowledge about that?

Corey: His uncle, whose name was John G. Trump, and was a MIT professor or scientist at the time, had actually been called to go out to Tesla’s property after he passed away to help remove all of the paperwork and experiments.

So this could very well explain some of the comments that the current President made very recently.

If you remember his inauguration speech, he mentioned a few interesting things about hidden technologies at the very end.

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DONALD TRUMP – 2017 INAUGURATION SPEECH

“We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries, and technologies of tomorrow.”

David: So he’s describing technologies that could include free energy, that could include age reversal, or at least disease reduction, stuff that seems pretty out of the box.

And it’s a big cowboy move for him to make promises like that in his inaugural address. So granted, people would say, “Well, yeah, politicians, they just make stuff up all the time”, but is there something more to these statements?

Corey: Well, you take that his uncle was involved with this free energy-type technology, or allegedly, then he may have heard things down the family line about free energy being invented and available.

So he may have had that information. And when he received the briefings, he realized that he wasn’t getting the full information from his security advisers.

David: You seem pretty confident that Trump thinks that he only got low-level information when he was told about the Military-Industrial Complex Secret Space Program.

Corey: Right. He wasn’t told about any free energy, any of these healing technologies, in this briefing. But he sent a secret presidential memo, according to the information I received, to the Department of Energy, to the DoD and another group, requesting that, or basically demanding that they declassify over 1,000 patents . . .

David: Wow!

Corey: . . . out of 5,700 or so. And, I guess, some people may not know, but it’s documented that there are at least 5,700 patents that have been deemed harmful to national security.

David: Why would somebody invent something and then thousands and thousands of things are not being allowed to be shown to us?

Corey: Well, it comes to, I guess, the almighty dollar. Advanced energy technology would put the oil companies out of business. Advanced healing technology would put people even more powerful – the pharmaceutical conglomerates – out of business.

David: So what happened when the President asked for these patents to be declassified? That seems like a really strong and bold move.

Corey: Yeah. He received the typical pushback, and these groups said it would take at least 10 years for us to get all of this ready, but we’ll start working on it right away.

David: 10 years?

Corey: Yes, and . . .

David: That’s ridiculous.

Corey: He immediately pushed back that he wanted them released in the next three years.

David: You’ve mentioned Sigmund and that he has started to, perhaps, believe that what you’re saying is true. He’s taken hair samples from you. He’s proven that you were at these places that you say that you were.

How is he handling the fact that you may know something that’s true? What is he doing with that knowledge?

Corey: He basically hit the roof. He was extremely upset. He approached his superiors in a very upset manner and told them, “Listen. I feel like you’re not giving me the full information.”

Some of them became concerned because they felt like they weren’t getting the full data. So they have allowed him to start an investigation to investigate this Navy program.

David: ‘They’ the higher ups?

Corey: Yes. His superiors have then authorized him to begin this investigation, which he’s been undertaking.

David: What is the nature of that investigation?

Corey: To establish the details and existence of a Navy secret space program that is more active in the outer Solar System and other solar systems. They really want to find out the details of this alleged Navy Secret Space Program, because as he said to me – and I will clean it up – he said, “I used to think we were the tip of the spear, but I found out we’re the f**ing Coast Guard.”

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Corey: And not to put down the Coast Guard in any way, . . .

David: Sure.

Corey: . . . but he was talking about strategically. They thought they were the tip of the spear, keeping the planet safe and surveilling the planet, when they’re just basically the Coast Guard. And the Navy Secret Space Program and other programs are the tip of the spear.

David: Do they have anything beyond this 500-mile radius around the Earth that you said?

Corey: Yes, they have very small locations on the Moon, and I hear further out, but I haven’t verified where all of their assets are.

David: Anything on Mars?

Corey: I’ve heard rumor of that, but that I haven’t verified.

David: When you say, ‘very small’, how many personnel would be able to work there?

Corey: I haven’t had numbers, but I would assume it would be maybe 30 at the most.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: Yeah, very small facilities.

David: Right. What might they be doing out there? What would be their objective of being there?

Corey: That’s their mandate, to protect the planet and surveil the planet.

David: So it’s like a surveillance and military defense outpost.

Corey: Right.

David: So the MIC group is Air Force. Is this the extent of the Air Force’s involvement in a space program, or is there another aspect to the Air Force that is in what you’re calling the Secret Space Program?

Corey: They’re involved in other aspects of other programs, but anything that they’re working on, they don’t communicate that information to this MIC Secret Space Program because they don’t have a need to know.

As a matter of fact, this MIC Secret Space Program, when they’re out in their space stations or flying around, they’re told that anything they see that flies by that’s much faster than what they are flying, they’re told that those craft are concept craft that their peers are developing.

David: Has Sigmund started to utilize you as an asset in any way to inform others who may be curious about whether this Navy Secret Space Program is real?

Corey: He had prepped me that he was going to start having me do briefings of various VIPs.

David: Oh!

Corey: So I was kind of preparing myself for that. And the last time we were here shooting Cosmic Disclosure, I was very shocked, and I believe you were too, when we saw in the same hotel we were staying in, this SAS forum was there.

It’s a Human Spaceflight and Exploration Forum.

David: Yeah, I have to say that walking around and seeing all that in physical form right in front of me, it did literally make the hairs stand up on both of my arms.

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Corey: Right. And I was shooting video while I was there for my vlog.

COREY SHOOTING VLOG

“What are the chances of the Human Spaceflight and Exploration Forum being at the same hotel as me?”

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And I captured pretty much all of the signs they had out in the corridor showing all the different energy technology, propulsion technology, they were going to be discussing. So it was a significant meeting.

David: Now, what happened as far as that meeting being set up? Was that in any way designed by the MIC group because we were here?

Corey: It’s pretty interesting, but I think that had been set up for a long time. It just seemed to work out well for getting me to talk to a few of the participants.

And I was very shocked early in the morning when I was supposed to come and shoot here. I had a knock at the door, and there was a person standing there.

And he greeted me with the proper information that would signify that he was in contact with Sigmund’s group, . . .

David: Wow!

Corey: . . . which caught me off guard. And I wasn’t expecting to do a briefing. I’m sitting in my sweatpants and a t-shirt.

So he asked me if I’m willing to do a briefing. And I was like, “Right now?”

And I looked, and there were four other people in the hallway, three of which were people that were going to soon come in my hotel room, which made me very nervous, who I would then give a briefing to.

And one of them introduced himself to me as a former astronaut who flew shuttle missions. I didn’t recognize him. He’s kind of a balding guy. He had a Masonic ring on.

David: Okay.

Corey: And I talked to him, and I talked to a physicist who was there. And he was a physicist engineer. And then there was another person that was part of the military-industrial complex that had a lot of connections.

And I started to give them the briefing, just like I have in Cosmic Disclosure from the very beginning.

And they all started looking very nervous and bewildered when I started with my story. Yeah, they were very uncomfortable.

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David: What kinds of questions were these guys asking you, and how did you answer them?

Corey: The person who started hitting me with the most questions was the physicist engineer guy. And he started asking me questions way over my head.

And Ka’Aree had told me that she would assist me in these briefings when needed. I had no idea in what capacity. I thought she would feed me information.

David: Right.

Corey: All of a sudden, she started basically speaking through me and answering all of these questions. His eyes were getting bigger and bigger. And, finally, he stood up and threw his hands up in the air and said, “I cannot accept any of this.”

And he turned around and stormed out of the room.

David: So just so we’re clear and people don’t make things up online, you were still speaking in your own voice, not in a woman’s voice or something like that.

Corey: Right.

David: But you’re just able to hear words in your mind and then verbalize them?

Corey: Right. Yes.

David: Okay. When he stormed out of the room, what happens next?

Corey: It turned a nervous situation into a ‘I didn’t know what to do next’ situation. And the other two guys kind of humored me. I was nearly done anyway.

And that kind of truncated the conversation. I finished my briefing with the other two. They got up and left.

And I was told by the guy as he was walking out – that originally knocked on my door – that the next day to make myself available that evening to talk to some more people.

Well, apparently my briefing didn’t go over too well because the next day nobody showed up, and the SAS conference was gone.

David: It was gone.

Corey: Just poof, gone.

David: So then you go home the day after you have this meeting, and what happens to you then?

Corey: I was feeling a little weird before I flew home, and I started coughing up this . . . While I was still here in Boulder, I started coughing up this really weird uniform black stuff. And there was a lot of it. It was really weird. Nothing like that had really ever happened to me.

Then I also, as I was being flown home, we did have a rapid descent, which I believe I had some sort of reverse altitude sickness that contributed to the situation.

But hours after I got home, I ended up in the emergency room. I started having all these weird pains in my body. My joints were aching, and I couldn’t hardly breathe.

And what really concerned me is on my left shoulder, the joint really started hurting, and my chest started hurting, so I went to the hospital just to make sure I wasn’t having a heart attack.

David: Wow!

Corey: They slapped an EEG on me real quick and figured out that I wasn’t having a heart episode of any type. And then they put me back in the waiting room, and I left after a few people came in puking their guts out. So I kind of left against medical advice.

David: How did the briefings with Sigmund and his people continue after this initial event?

Obviously, it looks like somebody might have given you some kind of attack weapon. That’s one interpretation of this. Did you talk to him about that?

Corey: Not to him. Ka’Aree did tell me that there was some sort of an attack that was orchestrated – something was most likely put in my food or water – and that she didn’t think that it would have caused that large of an effect on me if I hadn’t have been exhausted already.

David: Did you ask Sigmund about this?

Corey: It came up. He said that it had nothing to do with him, and that they were investigating it.

David: So what happens next in terms of briefings that Sigmund brings you to? Do you talk to others, and how does it go?

Corey: Yes. And I can’t discuss the details of where it occurred, where these things occurred, but I was talking with anywhere from three . . . one, three, larger numbers of people – a total of about 28.

And I was giving the same briefing. Ka’Aree did not answer any of their questions in the further briefings. That kind of freaked the guy out a little bit.

David: Did she identify herself when she was talking through you?

Corey: She did, yeah.

David: Really? Okay. So that would have definitely been very uncomfortable for someone who’s not comfortable with this.

Corey: A scientific person. Yeah, they were not happy at all with that part. But when I’m giving these briefings, I had 13 people out of 28 stand up, throw their arms in the air, and storm out saying basically the same thing, “I can’t accept this.”

David: Hmm.

Corey: And the other people that remained just kind of . . . almost like they thought they were being punked. They’re looking around. Their heads jerking around looking at each other.

They’ve got these kind of stupid grins on their face. They were just having problems with the information. They were polite though.

But afterwards, they were telling their superiors, “What a waste of time. What a crazy story.”

So since then, Sigmund has put a pause on briefings.

David: How much do these guys know? Do they know about the MIC group?

Corey: Yes.

David: Do they know about extraterrestrials? Do they know about Atlantis and Antarctica?

Corey: No, no, no.

David: Pre-Adamites?

Corey: No. They don’t know any of that. They don’t have a need to know. They’re engineers. They just know about the programs they’ve dealt directly with.

And those usually don’t go anywhere further than this MIC SSP group that was basically kickstarted during the Star Wars Initiative.

David: Have you had any further meetings with the SSP Alliance since we last did our updates?

Corey: Since I first met Sigmund, and Sigmund started this hunt for these SSPAlliance groups, they’ve been keeping their heads down. So the only person that was a part of the SSP Alliance that I’ve been meeting on a regular basis is Gonzales.

And he’s been coming and picking me up in the Mayan craft.

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David: What’s the reason for him showing up in that way?

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What was the objective of these meetings?

Corey: Well, since he’s been staying with the Mayan people, I’ve been teleported to this giant stone craft somewhere out in orbit.

David: And what’s going on? What’s happening to you when you go up there?

Corey: I’ve been having some memory issues that concerned Gonzales. The last time I had reported I was up on the Mayan craft, and he had come up to me with this Magic 8 Ball-looking stone that he was scanning my head with, giving me concerned looks.

I’ve slowly started to find out what he was concerned about.

David: You had alluded to some big dark secret that has started to come up for you about your past that you found to be very upsetting that has very negative implications for your memory and your health.

Corey: Right. Many may recall that before I really started even talking to you, Gonzales – before I knew him – and the Mayans had appeared in my house after I’d had an eye surgery.

It was a detached retina surgery that the surgeon said was no different than astronauts’ eye. It took three times to repair it. It was a very traumatic surgery.

I had some sort of a full memory recall that was very upsetting. I was basically almost suicidal at the time. And the Mayan group brought me up to this vessel and had suppressed a lot of memories that had popped back.

They also disassociated the, I guess, emotional energy I have tied to certain memories. When I try to talk about all of this, I would go into some sort of a panic attack.

The information that they hid away is causing some of my memory issues that I’m having.

He explained to me that he found out that I had done two other 20-and-Backs . . .

David: Really!

Corey: . . . that I have really no memory of. That was hard for me to accept. It was very upsetting.

And he has been working with me to help mitigate the issues on my memory from these other 20-and-Backs. The only thing is I’ve been having sort of a bleed through. I’ve been having dreams, and they’ve been pretty dark.

David: Does this mean that you have 20-and-Backs that were not Solar Warden at all?

Corey: I don’t know what . . . I don’t know the details of them yet. And I don’t know if I’ll . . . Hopefully, I don’t want to process the information if it’s as disturbing as what has been popping into my dreams.

David: Given that the Mayans seem to have very advanced technology, what method did they use to heal you of these horrible things that were coming back in your mind, and the damage that it was resulting in?

Corey: Right after the eye surgery, what they had done is they had further suppressed those two 20-and-Backs scenarios to where I would have no memory of them. And it had unintended consequences.

The way the mind compartmentalizes things, there was starting to be some bleed through. And there were some memories that were associated with my first 20-and-Back. So when they truncated those memories, there was something missing.

So my mind was trying to fix what was missing, and I started having memory issues and disturbing flashbacks.

So originally they had taken those memories and suppressed them further.

What they’re doing right now is, I’m going up, and they’re helping mitigate the issues. They have this free will thing. They won’t totally fix different ailments of mine, but they are mitigating them so I can continue with this mission.

David: Have you had any other meetings with the Blue Avians, and, if so, what have they been telling you?

Corey: Yeah, I’ve had . . . The meetings with Tear-Eir have slowed down dramatically. And that’s happened before. It’s kind of been an ebb and flow as things are occurring.

David: Right.

Corey: And most recently, Tear-Eir has told me that we’ve entered into a very important three-year window as a species, that we’re creating as a species the, I guess, reality that we’re going to experience together.

That this three-year window is very important – how we, I guess, exert ourselves to try to get disclosure is very important.

It’s very important to start doing things like mass meditations, anything that can kickstart that hundredth monkey effect within the rest of our subconsciousness.

David: The mention of three years is interesting because Jacob, one of the other guys who was a very, very knowledgeable space program insider, but wouldn’t tell me everything he knows, as you and I both know who he is.

He spoke a lot about 2020. That was one of the key windows that he was always describing. And that’s exactly what you’re saying.

Corey: Yeah, 2020. Gonzales has made jokes about 20/20 vision and 2020 being an important part of this transition. So 2020 . . . There’s some importance tied to it for sure.

David: Given the fact that Tear-Eir is being that specific, and that as we’ve talked about in many other episodes, we’re expecting some kind of solar energy flash, this would imply that it’s definitely not happening prior to 2020. Would you say that?

Corey: I’d agree.

David: Okay. But the window of 2020 to 2024, because you say they’ve also added a year on . . .

Corey: Yes.

David: Could you talk about that window? And what do you think might be going on with 2020 and that period of time?

Corey: I’m not sure what’s going to occur, other than we’re making some sort of a decision as a people in that time period. It’s important.

A lot of these groups that are trying to massage and muddle things are kind of sitting back now. Pretty much, the ball’s in our court.

How we’re going to proceed from now on, a lot of it has to do with how we process this new information, and how we react to it.

David: There was a blueprint for partial disclosure that seemed pretty obvious.

8 Tom DeLonge

Tom DeLonge, the multi-Grammy winning lead singer of Blink 182, arguably the biggest rock band of the 1990s, is saying that he met with 10 different military insiders. It came out in some of these WikiLeaks data dumps that actually verified that he was having meetings, and who he was meeting with.

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And now he’s got the second of his two books of the “Sekret Machines” series that gets into Nazi bell craft and all kinds of stuff, but basically seems like the MIC space program. What’s going on with that initiative in light of all this stuff that you’re now bringing to the surface?

Corey: They’re, I guess, tacitly proceeding with this partial disclosure narrative, but at the same time, heavily investigating all of this new information, which could affect the plans for doing this partial disclosure of the MIC Secret Space Program.

David: Is there the same degree of support for the Tom DeLonge initiative now as there was before, or has that changed?

Corey: On the face, yes, they are proceeding, but many, especially in the control structure, they want to know the results of the investigation Sigmund’s doing. They’re very interested in this investigation.

David: The Vault 7 documents had a big build up for them going on where WikiLeaks was putting out all these cryptic tweets, and people were trying to figure out what was going on. There was a real big buzz.

And then it comes out in the open, and it’s all about the CIA. And they’re saying there’s 8,700 documents in there.

What are we seeing with Vault 7, and can we expect more of that kind of stuff to happen?

Corey: Yes. I was officially told that this document or data dump that I talked about in the first couple of seasons of Cosmic Disclosure has finally started to occur in earnest.

That there were going to be further clusters of very uncomfortable information that are going to hit the Internet.

And as we have time to digest that, maybe even before we have time to fully digest that batch, another one would come. And then another one would come – with in between those, the Cabal doing a few tit for tat releases of data of their own, but nothing as significant as what the Alliance is leaking.

So we’re in the beginning of this document dump, and there’s a lot more coming.

David: Are we still expecting there to be some sort of new financial system once the dust settles? Might there be an economic collapse? What about that, just briefly?

Corey: I’m not seeing any information about an imminent collapse. It sounded like, until we have some sort of a disclosure, they are keeping everything stable.

So at a future point, there will more than likely be some sort of a change in the financial system since it’s going to be exposed that the financial system that we have right now is completely corrupt.

David: When this financial change happens, what will the effect be for the average person?

Corey: A more level playing field. That’s the goal. A more level playing field for all of these different nations to start interacting with each other. And hopefully, when we get to that point, we’ll also have technologies that we’ll be sharing with all of these other countries, which will bring us closer together an into a new era.

David: If these technologies do get declassified, have you gotten any evidence as to how that will take place?

In other words, are they going to be officially announced, or are they just going to start to bubble up, or how is it going to happen?

Corey: It’s going to occur in the data dumps, more than likely. And then officials with egg on their face are going to either have to confirm or deny the existence. That is the information I have.

David: Well, I want to thank you [Corey] for continuing to fight the good fight. And I want to thank you [audience] for supporting us by watching this show and being subscribers.

I’m David Wilcock. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”, and I thank you for watching.

COSMIC DISCLOSURE: ASTRAL PROJECTION AND OUR PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE WITH WILLIAM TOMPKINS

Source: Sphere Being Alliance

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host,David Wilcock, and I’m here with Corey Goode.

And in this episode, we have more of the very stunning new information coming to us from our World War II veteran insider William Tompkins.

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ASTRAL PROJECTION

William Tompkins: When I was just a boy, and I was, like, seven, eight and nine years old, I used to fly a lot. Now, I didn’t have an airplane. I just flew.

We were living in Santa Monica. We were living in Hollywood, and I flew a lot, mostly at night, but a couple of times in class, in school, recess, I’d just go behind the building, and I’d take a flight.

And I’d sometimes . . . I’d put my arms up, but most times I’d just go out.

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And so I could fly all over Hollywood, San Fernando Valley, go down to the beach at Santa Monica, fly up to Malibu, fly all the way down to San Pedro, look at the Navy ships and the dry docks in San Pedro, and fly over LAX and come back.

I had a hard time flying over LAX. There was a lot of stuff going on, so I kept myself away from the airports as much as I could.

A few times, after I’d had fun just flying around low key – and in particular, it’s more fun at night with the lights – I’d just shoot out, out into the galaxy. And I flew way above 186,000 miles a second, way, way above that.

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And it took everybody a long time to figure out that even the Germans could fly faster than that, and certainly the extraterrestrials could, okay? But what I am saying I do, is I fly out there.

And one time I flew into . . . it the admiral’s command ship of a Reptilian space navy. I flew right into his office. I could see, hear and smell everything that they were saying.

To me, it came to me in English, just like when I flew one time over Russia. Admiral Sergey Gorshkov had been building a whole series of futuristic ships that don’t even look like they’re from the planet because they were built with stealth.

I flew over the base, Vladivostok base, and I actually flew around the base. I went down, looked into the edge of the construction facilities, came back up high, flew into Sergey Gorshkov’s office, and I could see, hear and smell the coffee in his office.

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And his language . . . which language? English. All of them were talking English. Okay?

I actually got into a research group in the Navy where I was an adviser to this psychic type of whatever that I’m doing here.

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David: So that’s some pretty interesting stuff there. We’re hearing that he has been able to do this ever since he was seven or eight years old.

And Corey, one of the things that jumped out at me, I was five years old when I had an out-of-body experience. I woke up floating over my body, and it was the event that got me to study ESP.

So I started to do psychic experiments by the time I was seven years old. I wanted to get another chance. I was only able to do it once when I was a kid.

Corey: Yeah, I thought it was commonplace. I thought everyone could do it. I was doing it . . .

David: This was something that happened to you often?

Corey: Mm-hmm.

David: From what age?

Corey: The age of four and five years old it was spontaneously happening, and then I was able to control it through my youth.

We’d be on long car drives. I’d be bored, and instead of asking, “Are we there yet?”, I would just project myself outside of the car, and I would float and fly above the signs as we passed, above the overpasses.

And I thought it was something everyone could do.

David: Is there something about extraterrestrial lineage in the soul that makes it more likely that people will be able to do this?

Corey: Well, let’s say that, in a previous life, you were a more advanced extraterrestrial. You had advanced consciousness abilities, and you agreed to be incarnated here on Earth as a human.

We still have that same oversoul that has the same knowledge. So that knowledge has to slowly trickle into this conscious being that we agreed to become.

David: Is there any reason to believe that if a person goes through excessive trauma, that that trauma might propel them to be able to develop astral projection?

Corey: Yes. That’s actually a technique that is used in the programs. They will cause people to astrally project by inflicting extreme trauma upon them.

David: How does that end up working? Why do you project out of your body then?

Corey: That is a . . . It’s an escape or a protection mechanism that our psyche has. It’s a disassociative ability that our psyche, and we have spiritually, to disassociate and divorce ourself from what is occurring.

And once they program a person through trauma to be able to project out of their body, then they start training them how to do it for operations.

David: And what would be an example of an astral projection?

Corey: Very similar to remote viewing. It’s going to be going to gather intelligence at a remote location.

David: Well, it seems that this is a very ancient technique, isn’t it? I mean, this is something that mystery schools have talked about for a long time.

Corey: Right, it’s a heavily suppressed ability that all humans have.

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David: One of the things that, maybe, our viewers are not aware of, there is one particular secret society called BOTA, or Builders of the Adytum, and the Adytum, believe it or not, is a room that has an altar with a sacred book inside with sacred knowledge.

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And the room is completely walled off. It’s usually a cylindrical room, all bricked in. You can’t get in at all except in your astral body.

And so the key for the initiate is, can you astrally make it into that room and then read the book inside the Adytum, and only if you can accurately recount what the book says have you then become a true initiate.

Have you ever heard of anything like that?

Corey: Well, I mean, there were similar exercises that we were all put through.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. You would have to identify an object in another room, its color. It wasn’t as . . . We weren’t reading books, but you know, we were children.

And they would have us identify toys or paintings or different things in another room that was walled off, and that no one in the experiment, at that time, knew what was in there either. So you weren’t getting psychic hits, or you weren’t front loaded in anyway.

David: Some people might be inclined to dismiss Tompkins’ testimony based on the idea that he’s saying, for example, he went into the office of an admiral of the Reptilian navy, and that he’s hearing things in English when they clearly are not speaking in English.

And the same thing with the Russian where they had these unconventional aircraft, stealth aircraft.

Corey: I have heard of that before, that your mind – your astrally projected astral body – is able to interpret other languages to the language that the mind uses.

David: So there’s sort of a natural translation function going on.

Corey: Not all the time, but some people have that innate ability.

You can’t just astrally project to a lot of these black bases. They’re protected by people that have remote influencing abilities and are enhanced by technology.

I’ve heard them called “Those Who Scatter”. They’ll scatter your thoughts.

Also, shadow beings that will protect facilities from astral projectors. Astral projectors will go try to get into a facility, and all of a sudden they’ll get this real dark being that’s now chasing them all over the place.

So they do have astral security.

David: All right. So in our next segment, we’re going to have Tompkins blast us out into the cosmos, and specifically, we’re going to hear what he has to say about settlements on the Moon.

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OUR MOON

Tompkins: Well, first of all, it’s not your Moon, and secondly, it’s not a moon. It’s a command center for a region of this part of the Milky Way galaxy. That’s what it is.

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And it doesn’t rotate. Everybody forgets the thing doesn’t turn. Okay? So it’s not a moon. It’s not YOUR moon. It’s a command center with probably 25~35 different civilizations in there, all of which operate out here for this part of the Milky Way galaxy.

And, yes, some of those people actually are at war with each other, but they have personnel living here. Their families live here. The kids are getting educated. They get young. They get older. They get married. It’s a big hunk. It’s a big facility.

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David: So Corey, what was your reaction as you saw this segment just now?

Corey: It’s exactly what I had stated in the past. There are a number of factions that have territory on the Moon that they operate in. And there will be blood enemies for millennia that are operating within a kilometer or two of each other, I mean, groups that you do not get together no matter what.

David: Now, he mentioned 25 to 35 civilizations. I’m curious how well that dovetails with what you’ve heard?

Corey: That’s probably about right. There are a lot of the genetic farmer races that have ‘observation posts’, is what they call them.

And they do use it as an observation post and a station that they go back and forth doing these genetic experiments on us from.

David: Now, one of the things that jumps out at me was, I kind of thought of this, like you said, as an outpost or maybe a stopover point, whereas he’s saying that you have families living there. You have children being educated there, growing up in these lunar bases.

So we are dealing with what would appear to be like a permanent housing for potentially large populations of people from several, you know, 25~35 civilizations.

Corey: I mean, it would be similar to us having a marine base in Europe. The soldiers have families that are there with them. It’s going to be one of those scenarios.

I had not heard intelligence of families and children. The information I had received was that they were more sort of like military outposts.

David: When I went to Japan, I went to Tokyo, the main city, and it’s amazing when you’re there, and you look out, and you see something that kind of looks like Manhattan, but it is so big.

Tokyo is so incredibly large, there’s such a density of buildings that you can’t even see to the point where that highly compressed density of buildings stops.

So when we have a city of that size, it’s a very small geographical footprint, but you could potentially have 20, 30 million people living there.

I’m wondering if the level of development on the Moon in some of these territories these people have is sufficient enough that you could have a population that large in a small space.

Corey: It’s all about technology. If we were not so technologically developed, it wouldn’t be possible to have a city like Tokyo.

They have mastered all of the energy needs, the protein requirements that people may need, everything that’s needed to process waste on a much more efficient level than we are.

So, yeah, they’re able to have a much higher population density than we are.

David: Are there immigration requirements that would prevent anyone who is not part of their indigenous culture from being able to even see the inside of these cities?

Corey: Absolutely. You don’t have one group going into the cities of others. I mean, it’s like the UN or kind of like how Antarctica is carved up for all these different countries.

It is undisputed territory, and they do not cross over or invade.

The Moon was made sort of like a Switzerland zone, a conflict free zone, after some major, major battles that happened in our history. And they left some of the remnants of that battle on the Moon as a testament and a reminder of the battles and how bad it got.

These are the conflicts that led to these treaties being signed between the different genetic farmer groups, some of these more negative groups that we’re talking about, that allows them to live and operate in close proximity without being at war all the time.

David: Pete Peterson has an insider who came from the Russian space program, who told him that if we were to be able to see the dark side of the Moon – which as Tompkins noted, it’s always against our view. We can’t ever look on that side – that it would look like Manhattan at night.

Meaning the entire circular area of the backside of the Moon, if that circle could be turned towards us, the whole thing at night is just literally covered with lights.

Corey: Yeah, there’s one particular, I think it’s called Luna City, that has a lot of light.

But you have to also note that they have a type of cloaking that goes over their buildings and structures that looks just like the rest of the arid terrain of the Moon.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: So you could fly over and just see craters when actually that’s a projection over a base or an outpost

David: That is interesting because, as we know, retired Major Bob Dean, according to what I heard from Jacob, my insider who met up with him at a Project Camelot event and recognized him from the Secret Space Program . . .

Corey: I’m pretty sure he did at least one 20-and-Back.

David: Yeah.

Corey: That’s my opinion.

David: But one of the things that Dean said while he was talking to Jacob was that there was an island in the Pacific where half of the island looks like an island, but it’s a cloak, and that there’s a very important base there.

And if it wasn’t for this hologram that makes it look like it’s just an island in the ocean, you’d see this amazing thing.

Corey: Oh, yeah, they can disappear entire islands.

David: Wow! So this is stuff that could be used on Earth right now.

Corey: Absolutely.

David: You can confirm that.

Corey: Yeah. It can be used over Antarctica. It could be used any number of places.

David: All right. Now, he also mentioned that the Moon is a command center. How much of this is also inside?

Corey: Almost all of it. The majority of it is under the surface of the Moon in these deep huge fissures, cracks and lava tubes.

David: And one last thing was you mentioned that we have some new art of the Lunar Operations Command.

Corey: Yes. Yes.

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If you look at this image, this is an image that I commissioned that is a 3D rendering of the swastika-looking arrangement of buildings that . . . how the LOCoriginally looked.

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David: Okay.

Corey: And then I have another image that shows how it was built out to cover up the swastika.

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David: Interesting. All right. So in this last segment, we have one final set of words from Tompkins for us in this episode, and this is his statements on how he sees our place in the universe based on his own personal and stunning insider knowledge and direct experience with extraterrestrial contact, including Nordics. Let’s take a look.

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OUR PLACE IN THE GALAXY

Tompkins: We’ve now accepted that we have 200 trillion galaxies. Not million. We have 200 trillion galaxies out there.

I mean, what . . . We are so naïve of what’s out there. It’s totally unbelievable. Millions and millions of planets out there – very small things and things that make our Star look like kid stuff.

Our star is just a little dot over on the side – even our galaxy.

And while we’re talking about that, this subject comes up all the time, and it’s an appropriate time to say it.

If we can visualize us as the center of the Milky Way galaxy, we’re reaching out like this with our arm.

Everybody in this room, and all the audience that’s going to be watching this, has to realize this is one of the arms of the Milky Way galaxy. You’re located at my first joint.

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You’re not down . . . Wait a minute! You’re not down where the action is. Even in the Milky Way galaxy, you’re not downtown where ALL the action is.

You are out here at this tip, which in time, you’re going to get thrown off because the galaxy rotates. The galaxy rotates, all of them do.

They rotate, so the tips get thrown off. Other galaxies come by, and they pick up that stuff. So you may be going to the next galaxy several weeks from now. Okay? Takes quite a while. [Smiles]

So to realize that you’re not downtown, you’re just one of the castoffs.

This little Solar System thing that you’ve got here – it’s . . . You’re out in the boonies.

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And it’s interesting that we have to address who we are, where we are, and what we know and realize that the universe is unbelievable. And so opportunities for young people in this country, all over the world, to be involved in this commercially, okay . . .

Come on. Forget about carrying a big gun. There’s too much of that. That’s not the right step. You’ve got to have the largest . . . enough to be able to stop it, and this is where the Navy has been saying this for 240 years. If you have a large enough navy, they’ll back off.

You don’t need to use a shooting navy. But if you don’t carry that, people are going to really make it hard for you.

And so to me, I think we’re just starting. We’ve just got the tip of the iceberg of where we can go and what we can do, and it’s unbelievable opportunities.

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David: All right. So, wow! That’s a very sobering reminder of the awesomeness of our cosmic identity.

I’ve been quoting from the latest NASA studies, which have revealed that there are as many Earth-like watery planets in our universe as there are grains of sand on Earth, on the entire planet. All the grains of sand put together – there’s a watery planet like Earth out in the universe for all of that.

So it’s a staggering number.

Corey: It’s a template that’s all over the cosmos.

David: And these watery planets in this theoretical mock-up that NASA has put out, they’re looking at, okay, well, maybe one out of a hundred of them is going to have life, and then maybe one out of a hundred of those is going to reach intelligent life.

But based on what you’ve told me before, it seems like intelligent life for a watery planet is far more prevalent than that one out of one out of 100 thing.

Corey: Well, yeah, and also, you have to understand that each solar system has its own dynamics. So there are going to be times of developed societies in the solar system, and then there are going to be cataclysms – cycles that occur.

Then they’ll have long periods of having more basic life that inhabit these planets.

David: And if our conventional estimate of the age of the universe is about 13.8 billion years – there’s different opinions, but that’s one of the common ones – then that would mean that there could be civilizations much older than ours that already reached very high technology.

Corey: Oh, yeah. Come and gone.

David: So the idea that we are the only intelligent life in the universe, in light of all these new statistics, is totally ridiculous.

Corey: Yes, it’s beyond ridiculous. It’s arrogant. You have the right mix of minerals, distance from the sun, the planet being seeded with the correct enzymes or proteins from comets. Then you have all the building blocks for basic life, and it’s everywhere.

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And now that they’ve found out that the stars produce water, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that’s where a lot of the water’s coming from.

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And the Sun is also producing the harmonic wave that allows life to come about.

David: Yeah, this is something I’ve done a lot of scientific validation of. If people also watch “Wisdom Teachings”, they’re going to hear, in many of my DNA episodes, astonishing proof.

We went into Wilhelm Reich and how you can, in fact, generate life just out of electrifying a rock and water. All you have to do is that, and you’ll eventually get life to form.

Corey: Right, and also where in the galaxy this solar system is is also going to depend . . . is going to dictate how advanced and how quickly life advances or progresses.

More towards the center of the galaxy, things are occurring a lot quicker. Time is occurring differently.

There’s a lot more going on, civilization wise, towards the center of galaxies than in the cosmic boondocks that he was talking about.

David: I did find that fascinating because my insider Jacob, who was very extensively knowledgeable about the Secret Space Program, claimed to have been to over 200 different off-planet sites, to have seen over 400 different types of extraterrestrials, and he was the guy who gave me a lot of information that correlated so well with what you’ve brought up.

Jacob was telling me that, yes, the center of the galaxy is so much more advanced, and there’s so much more going on there that it’s almost incomprehensible to us.

Corey: Time flows differently. Energy, everything . . . Towards the center of the galaxy, things are occurring, from our perspective, much quicker.

David: Now, Tompkins also mentioned that there were commercial opportunities. It’s not just about going out there with a gun.

What do you think could happen in a post-Full Disclosure world where people will have the ability to potentially even have a portal in their home, and in the course of one day maybe even travel far outside our Solar System, meet with other people, travel to other places? What kind of society is that? What kind of businesses could we start to develop at that point?

Corey: Well, there’s already a lot of commerce going on between our Solar System and the other solar systems, but it’s being controlled by a very militant and fascist group.

If it’s put in the hands of the people, we’re going to be able to do this – start bartering – from our own best interests.

Right now, a lot of the people in the secret space programs are somewhat forced into it.

When it becomes an all volunteer navy-type situation for space, then we’re going to have people that are bringing more creative energy to their mission. And if it’s not a military mission, it’s going to be more of a mission for commerce.

David: Some people watching this show might be cynics, and they would say, “Well, what could we possibly be offering to any other cultures? We’re like Neanderthals, troglodytes, in comparison to these people.

“Even if we developed the portal capability, even if we could pop over to a solar system outside of our own and visit an advanced culture, if they’ve got gigantic buildings made out of transparent aluminum crystal, what are we going to do going in there they would possibly want from us?”

Corey: Well, there are going to be some civilizations that are so much more advanced, there’s nothing that we’re going to really have except for maybe some biologicals or genetic stock that we are willing to trade from our planet.

A lot of them, that’s what they’re interested in. So the more super advanced civilizations . . . we’re not really going to have much that they’re going to want to trade.

But there are a lot of civilizations that are very close to ours. Our level of development is similar to theirs to a point to where they’re buying vessels from us.

We’re engineering technology that nonterrestrial groups covet, they want, and they’re willing to trade for it because we’re known as very diligent and brilliant engineers.

David: Could there also be job opportunities for people who might be, let’s say, artists or musicians or teachers?

Corey: Absolutely.

David: That kind of thing?

Corey: Yeah, I would expect a lot of exchange programs when it comes to the arts, because it’s . . . All the planets have some form of art.

David: And how much of a wide diversity are we looking at of places where artists or teachers or musicians could go and volunteer their services once this opens up?

Corey: Just about every planet that has a human-type civilization. The reason that they tell us not to call them nonterrestrials, or ETs – they tell us to call them people – is because there’s very little difference, genetically, between us and them.

David: Right.

Corey: They are people, and people have desires. They have interests. We can cross-pollinate our sciences, our arts, with other star systems that are interested in our art.

David: So there’s a potential in our future where we could have educational programs, where we’re going to help people to get to a point where they would be welcomed as diplomats, ambassadors, teachers, sharers of knowledge, but it’s going to require us to level up our spiritual maturity before we’re ready for that.

Corey: We’re going to continue to be sort of isolated until we go through this consciousness renaissance. Once we do, and we’re not as damaged, we don’t have as strong of PTSD, then we’re going to be able to go out and interact with them.

David: Well, that’s a very fascinating and hopeful message.

We’ll see you next time here on “Cosmic Disclosure”. Special episode with William Tompkins. I’m David Wilcock here with Corey Goode, and we thank you for watching and supporting us.