Source: Cosmic Disclosure
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here with our special guest, Emery Smith.
Emery, thank you for being here.
Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Appreciate it.
David: In our previous episode, we talked a little about how military bases are being built over extraterrestrial bases or crashed craft. And we had started to talk a little bit about what you may know regarding Antarctica.
So just to get more specific with you, according to Pete Peterson, operations in Antarctica have been ongoing for quite some time.
He was aware of it being back to at least the 1950s. And he said that it is a truly vast operation that’s being conducted down there.
So could you speak a little bit more about what you know of what’s going on in Antarctica?
Emery: I have recently met with four of the scientists that were part of that expedition, well, many expeditions in the past few years – in Costa Rica recently.
And what was interesting is there’s also another craft that is part of some of the craft that’s down THERE [Antarctica] in a cave down near Costa Rica, I’ll say.
David: Oh, wow!
Emery: And so this group was asking me to come with them to Antarctica to check it out on another expedition, which I refrained to go because all newbies don’t return.
Emery: So that’s how dangerous it is.
Emery: And any people that go down there to do documentaries or try to get with people to take them down there usually end up pretty much not coming back.
Emery: So right now, if you don’t have a specific, really good classification, you’re not going down there.
So that does leave it open to satellites, however, and special drones that we have access to to find out more information.
Different organizations are funding this, private organizations, because the people want to know.
And so this information was given to me strictly from the four scientists that actually came from working there for two years, which they do have the access to get back down in there to do what they do, which is basically . . . Well, I was talking about mapping and measuring of the melting ice and how much time they have before other things are exposed, which lead to the exposure of the underground city that’s there that has been there for a very long time, apparently.
David: Are you familiar with there being any plan to reveal ancient ruins under the ice in Antarctica, but not spacecraft at first or anything more modern, as part of a gradual disclosure agenda?
Emery: They already started that. So they’re saying there’s something down there, a big void, just like they did in Egypt now. There’s a big void underneath the pyramids there.
We have a very, very large city that’s there.
David: In Egypt?
Emery: In Egypt, under the pyramids, about a mile high dome.
Emery: Yes, it’s very large.
So this is the same thing that’s going on in Antarctica.
So they’re slowly saying, “Wow, through satellite imagery with special ground-penetrating radar, certain scientists from . . .”, which have nothing to do with trying to find bases, by the way – more like trying to find oil reservoirs and gold – have stumbled upon these giant voids. So you’re going to start hearing about this.
These voids are the ancient cities. You know, these are the ones that have been here for a very long time. This is right up your alley with all the stuff that you talk about.
And there has been great camera footage taken from an archaeologist that we know. And we have seen this footage. And it is compelling because the camera they snake down under the pyramid to see this, when it first was discovered, which I cannot disclose, was just fascinating.
Emery: So the same thing is going on in Antarctica now is: how are we going to disclose this and clean up all the artifacts down there, which will really mess up the story of how we got here . . .
Emery: . . . kind of like Mars and the Moon and everything else. And it’s right here on this planet.
David: All of a sudden in the media, we hear this report that neutrinos were used to discover a very large new chamber in the Great Pyramid above the Grand Gallery, which is the big hallway with the tall . . .
Emery: That’s right.
David: And they’re kind of saying it might be on a diagonal with the Grand Gallery, . . .
David: . . . but it’s a little higher.
David: And that’s a very large, previously undisclosed space.
Emery: I’ve heard about that.
David: Now, with the technology you’re reporting, it would appear that they would have known about this for a long time.
Emery: Oh, they’ve known about it for a very long time.
David: Have people been into that room that you know of?
Emery: Yeah. And that’s what the Alliance needs to decide is: what do we release and how slow do we release it? So there’s a gradual scientific, huge, worldwide, scientific investigation of these tablets or this or that or whatnot, because it doesn’t match what’s going on or what we’ve been taught here.
And that’s going to be the hard thing for people to grasp because of the belief systems that we all have.
David: Do you think that there might be a way . . .I mean, they don’t want to tear up the pyramid, right? They’re very concerned about antiquities preservation. But now we’re talking about a massive, massive chamber inside the pyramid openly discussed in mainstream media.
David: So is there a way into that room already? Do we know what’s in that room?
Emery: I’m 80% sure they’ve already been in that room from the bottom up. There are tunnels that they have already dug under into this city, so it’s already been . . .
Emery: They’re learning what happened. You know, they’re trying to learn the texts, learn all the symbols, and what’s it all mean?
And so it’s a huge undertaking on the private side of whoever is running that contract job. I can tell you that much.
David: Just for the sake of people’s curiosity, what might be some of the most surprising things that we would learn?
Like, what would we actually see if we ever get to see the footage of this room? What would be the most surprising thing we would discover?
Emery: Well, you’re going to discover a lot of literature and tablets, and also artifacts that are not from on Earth – not of Earth-origin technology – which most of it has been removed.
Emery: Whether they want to say it was found with the site or not, it will be a spectable because it has to do with someone already being there trying to do the same thing we were doing about a higher, advanced civilization, and they left some things behind.
So there’s special scientists in the world who grab these devices, and they can figure out what the devices were used for. That’s what their job is to do.
And they’re really interesting people, and they’re responsible. They’re the unseen heroes you hear about.
But a lot of the information that they get is usually used to give to these private corporations to be used for bad because it’s so amazing. Why give it to us to help us cure cancer or be able to talk to anyone in the universe?
David: I want to bring something up with you that I think is directly relevant, and that is an insider that Pete Peterson has hoped to get me in touch with – it hasn’t actually happened yet – but this person was involved in the excavation of a strange sort of metallic alloy sarcophagus from this same Giza Plateau area. And I believe he said it was underground.
And they removed the sarcophagus, and they had it . . . They were trying to figure out how to get it open, and they couldn’t open it with tools.
And apparently on the ship – they were transporting it on a U.S. military ship of some kind – someone telepathically interfaced with this sarcophagus, and they could read the inscriptions. Even though originally it was a different language, they could read the language.
And then they had to sing a certain note or phrase. I can’t remember which it was . . .
Emery: A harmonic, yeah.
David: And you put your hands out like this and it opened.
And then what they found inside were these various kind of hand-held tools. And some of the tools, apparently, would give you holographic reconstructions of historical events that happened during the time of the people that had this thing.
Emery: Sure. Oh, yes.
David: And that sarcophagus alone is just of inestimable value. Have you ever heard any stories like that?
Emery: Yes, I have heard of very similar stories of these sarcophagi and coffins and tubes that are made of some unknown metal but they’re seamless.
Emery: And they can only be opened, as far as I knew, by lineage, actually, and harmonic. So that’s interesting you said that, because it actually helps me understand some things now put together that I’ve been debriefed on.
And I’ve seen some of these vats, actually.
David: What about this idea of an object that you might be able to hold in your hand, and then you can kind of talk to it with your mind . . .
David: . . . and it will show you, like, a library?
Emery: Absolutely. It’s a consciousness-assisted technology that you have to hold and use your consciousness. You know, you have to think about it, and then whatever, however it operates – however, the operator knows how to operate it.
Or usually, it just automatically will turn on. You know, it’s like having an iPhone without a passcode on it. Automatically anyone can use it.
But some of these devices, these consciousness-assisted technologies, are all lineage-related or frequency-related, so that you have to be of the right ancient lineage to hold that one little frequency for this thing to work.
David: A genetic marker in your DNA, do you think?
Emery: Yes. Yes.
David: Wow! Really?
David: When we had Pete Peterson here last time, he gave us some extremely fascinating information about very, very long – many, many miles long – perfectly carved tunnels in South America, like, underneath the Nazca Lines.
And he talked about what appeared to have been a vast extraterrestrial city down there. And, of course, with our show on Gaia, “Unearthing Nazca”, Pete is claiming that the bodies we had on that show were from this city.
So I’m curious if you’ve heard about those tunnels in Meso- and South America, and any information you might have on that.
Emery: Yes. My scientist sources also have invited me down there to analyze the tunnels, which have a lot of craft in them, which have . . . The tunnels actually have beings frozen in time sticking out of the walls of these things.
David: Have you ever heard the term “stasis beings”?
Emery: Yes. I mean, I don’t personally believe these beings that come from Gaia are from that site.
Emery: But that’s my own opinion. And I have not been asked to analyze these beings yet.
David: Okay. So you’re saying that there are . . . This is totally amazing, Emery. I’m just going to be honest with you. And the reason why is that I got another briefing from Pete. I haven’t said a word about it to anyone.
I’m going to do it for the first time right now, okay?
And the briefing was that, because Gaia did “Unearthing Nazca”, the show, that our Alliance people have gotten a lot more interested in that area again, and that apparently the Mexican government . . . We have the Peruvian government . . . We have different governments in Meso- and South America, apparently involved in this.
And apparently, very recently, we took custody of these five different craft, and he said that they are so advanced that we’ve got whole teams of people . . . He estimated 2,000~3,000 people are working on these craft now. But it’s so advanced we have no idea how to get into it or what the heck is going on.
So I’m curious about your thoughts on that.
Emery: Yeah, I agree with that. But when you say “we”, who are you referring to who took over the five craft?
David: I guess it would be . . .
Emery: The Alliance or . . .
David: DIA military-industrial complex, what we would call MIC Secret Space Program folk.
Emery: Okay. That I can confirm 100%. They are now in control of all the tunnels and all the ships and all the bodies and all the technology, . .
Emery: . . . which has recently just happened.
Emery: Yes. And it’s now very difficult to get in there, but I’m still deciding whether to go or not because it’s just a matter of if they invite me again to go down there and decipher some of the ships and craft and some of the extraterrestrials that they found, and of course, the technology.
But yes, there is a large amount of these beings and the craft down there.
David: Can you confirm anything about Pete’s testimony regarding that the craft are so advanced that we have no idea what to do with them yet?
Emery: Yes, I can absolutely concur with that, because the group would never have called me to go down there and check this out, number one, because if they knew how to do it and they’re scientists and know how to do it, they wouldn’t be calling me to ask me to come on board clandestinely, which I can talk about freely. But that’s exactly what happened.
Emery: I mean, I haven’t seen his show, by the way, so I didn’t know any of this.
David: Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about what we did on “Unearthing Nazca”, because I didn’t even know you knew anything about this. It’s really amazing.
We’ve had X-rays taken of these bodies, and it does not in any way even possibly appear to be a hoax.
The genetic testing shows that it’s over 1,500 years old or more in some cases. It appears to be genuine genetic tissue that’s been preserved in diatomaceous earth.
They have three fingers and three toes instead of five, like we do. It definitely looks like this is an authentic specimen of some kind.
So I’m curious about your thoughts. Have you seen “Unearthing Nazca”?
Emery: No, I’ve seen just the small briefing that came out with those two mummies, and just the briefing that came out over the world and through Gaia.
Emery: And that’s all I read. And you know, my first question as a scientist is, who tested it? Where was it tested? How did you retrieve it? How did you get it over the border? Do you mind if I test it at multiple facilities of my choice, which you are not allowed to know?
And, you know, all these questions, because it’s a very interesting story. And I’m not saying yes or no, because I don’t know because I was not a part of that project.
Emery: So I can’t judge it. Since you say these things, I mean, of course, I’m very close with you. I believe you, but as a scientist, I also have to ask many other questions and actually have to examine the bodies because I don’t believe there’s too many other people out there coming forward like myself that would probably go do that and give an expert opinion and write something up.
Emery: I mean, I’m right now being published in Stanford University for the Atacama being coming forward with that with Dr. Garry Nolan.
So you’ll see that white paper with my name on it, which kind of gives me some credit about my background.
So, you know, I can’t answer that.
Just by looking at some pictures, I can’t say yes or no without being part of the project and giving my own opinion of what they are and where they came from, and also the type of DNA it is.
What was the DNA percentages?
David: There apparently is a DNA test being conducted in Russia right now with some of the finest DNA testing they have. The results have not yet come in yet. It apparently takes a long time.
But we did have Peruvian scientists who did a lot of work down there.
We also have M. K. Jesse, who is a radiologist right here in Boulder, who has surveyed the X-rays and has said that this definitely appears to be a biological being. It does not appear to be anything conventional human.
Emery: Right. And the carbon dating or whatever they use to measure the dating . . .
David: Carbon dating has been confirmed, and it’s all early AD – very early AD.
David: So would you be interested? I mean, I’m not able to ask you this on behalf . . .
Emery: Yeah, I would . . .
David: Would you be interested in doing that if you were invited?
Emery: Yeah, I would entertain that, of course. Yeah, I would be helpful in any way I can to help approve or disapprove [disprove] these beings.
David: And you told me before that apparently the Atacama humanoid that you had in “Sirius” is not the only one. Could you tell us a little more about that?
Emery: Yeah, I can. There is another being down in that location that has been discovered that is very similar to this being.
And we are now trying to work something out so we could get this being.
If we can get this being, we can get the DNA from both beings and see if they match and see if it is a new subspecies or not.
But the data that we’re printing right now at Stanford is – I’m not going to spill it because I can’t talk about it – is going to talk about that exact thing.
So you guys are going to have to wait for that white paper to come out in a couple of weeks, and then we’ll go from there. But I’m very interested in that being, too. I want to immediately grab this being, put it in a safe place, and be able to run multiple tests on it and see what happens and go from there.
It’s a speculation right now, so we can’t say anything until we actually have the DNA in our hands.
As you know, as I went over to Barcelona with Greer and Dr. Bravo to obtain the first one and bring back that DNA to Stanford for Dr. Garry Nolan to test, one of the world’s leading geneticists.
So there’s a lot to do, because you have to have, I think, in the future, multiple testing sites, and larger teams involved in organizations. So it’s just not one foundation doing all the work.
And it should be a joint collective thing. Most projects like this should be collective and not just one overseer of that. I think it’s harder to manipulate things when there’s multiple people involved instead of one overseer.
David: One of the things that you carry with you is something that hardly anyone has ever seen. You seem to always have it with you.
The only other time this was ever shown was on stage at Contact in the Desert. You handed it to me when I was doing a panel. It was a sensation for the audience.
Emery: Ah, right.
David: So could you hold up what it is that you have and tell us about this?
Emery: So this . . . After the team and I went over there to Barcelona . . . This is the Ata being from Chile, from the Atacama Desert.
And what we did was we wanted to make sure that we not only have the DNA, but let’s run every possible test. Let’s get CAT scans, MRIs, X-rays, as much as we can for the scientific community to look at this because the private organization that has it, who’s been very generous and needs lots of help, would like to do more testing and do more things.
And I was able, by working on some other secret projects at the time . . . We can 3D render organs and things. We can also 3D render pretty much any CAT scan into any material.
So we can shoot your brain, CAT scan your brain, and I can enter it into the computer, and I can print your brain out in any material I want.
Emery: Isn’t that cool?
So that way, before I operate on you, I can make sure where all your blood vessels are, and I can actually do . . .
David: Oh, wow!
Emery: . . . yeah. So I can say that now because it’s already out; it’s been disclosed.
Emery: So I thought, “Hey, why don’t I take a CAT scan of this being and put it into the computer and make an exact replica, duplicate, cell-by-cell,” into this just polycarbonate I used, because it was already too expensive to do anything else?
David: Here, let me see it.
Emery: And what happened is: we printed it and this is what came out, this polycarbonate exact being.
David: So one of the things that I notice right away, which people probably notice, is that, like, the head is kind of sliced off.
Emery: Yeah. When we made the program, we made sure that part was open so people could see inside and see the brain lobes, and, you know, there was different things. You know, I could print just with the chest open so you can see some of the lungs and different things that were in there.
But just to have something that was durable that I wanted to last a long time, and something that you could see the volume of. Of course, the skull was the most amazing thing: three times the size of our skull.
Emery: From chin to top, that’d be like . . . it’s the same length as his torso from the sternal notch to the umbilicus. We call the belly button, umbilicus. So, you know, it’s three times . . . the same size as that.
That would be like your head, one, two, three, three times your own size.
Emery: So, very interesting.
The story on this being, if you want me to go into, is . . .
David: Yeah, sure.
Emery: . . . which I was not part of the collection site or anything like that in the early years, but I did read a briefing that matches that of where this craft has crashed. And it was shot down some time ago. I don’t know the exact time.
And it was an egg-shaped craft, and there were . . . about the size of a Volkswagen van.
David: Hm! The size of the egg?
Emery: Yeah, the size of the egg. There were five occupants. And when the army got there, the military – not ours, but theirs – got there, two of them were already dead, the adults. They were 22 inches high.
And then there were three trying to get away. And they shot one, and two they lost into the jungle, or into the desert, or whatever, which the story goes they did wind up in a village.
And the villagers apparently saw these little beings, and they clubbed them and wrapped them in cloth, in red cloth, and went to . . .
David: Why would they club them?
Emery: Well, I’m going to tell you. I’ll tell you why I think they did. Because after they wrapped it in red cloth, they took it to the front of the church doorsteps, and they wrote “El Diablo”, and they laid it there.
David: The devil.
Emery: Yeah, the devil. So how unfortunate.
David: You know, the skull . . . This is one of the things that I always wondered about is: there’s this crack in the plate. Like there’s these two plates, and this part here on the left looks like it sticks up in ridges over the part on the right.
So that’s not the regular physiology. This is because its head was crushed?
Emery: No, it did have that kind of a point there after we looked at that in different computer programs, but it is offset because of the smashed skull.
David: Right. Okay.
Emery: And the hole in the back of the head, so you know, was also something that was done prior to myself and the team actually doing the autopsy.
I did use that hole, though, that was made by another scientist before me many years ago, to gather the brain material, some of the brain matter, and, of course, some of the layers of the brain.
And some of the bone marrow, of course, was what we’re really after. So we took some of that from the rib cage and also from the humerus of the arm of the being.
So we had a lot of samples. We had a lot of good samples. And we took those samples back.
David: Now, it is very interesting, something that I wish we could have gotten into “Sirius”.
David: I wanted to see us go into the fact that there is a case in Russia of a little being called Alyoshenka.
And this being does have the 22-inch height that you’re saying is like the adults, but the dried body of it is basically identical. It is essentially identical to what this looks like.
And the story there was that the being somehow was found by a woman who had mental illness. And she was feeding it candy and milk for a while, but it was dying.
And she tried to bring it to the hospital in Russia, and after it was brought to the hospital, it died. When its body dried out, it dried out the same way that this Atacama being did.
And then, unfortunately, the story goes that the Japanese were going to buy it for a very large sum of money to study it, and then it mysteriously disappears.
So what do you think Alyoshenka is?
Emery: Yeah. It’s hard to tell. Like I said, I don’t know the story. I know a little bit about the story. I did read a little bit about that briefing.
Emery: And then like with anything, even with this being, you have to understand this is not something that I saw actually inside where I was at.
This was after I got out that I was able to handle this. And I just associated this briefing with this accident at this exact place, so to make that clear.
Emery: And don’t forget, things can be made inside for disinformation campaigns as well. And beings can be grown and these crashes can be made to disinform scientists around the world that are not part of the projects.
And some that leave the projects, they want them disinformed.
So you have to be very delicate about talking about DNAs and beings, and where they come from and the stories behind them, because there’s very few people out there that actually know from start to finish: all right, this went to this to this to this.
You know, I’m being a private investigator saying, “Well, this is what I read. This is what happened. Then later on we finally got it. And then we did this, and it matches everything. There’s another one; matches the same exact report.” You know, all these different things.
So that I would not . . . I would just say I think it’s a similar . . . I think it’s part of the same phenotype of species.
Without looking at the DNA and actually matching the two, which would be the most amazing thing . . .
The fact that it went missing, 100% – obviously, red flag. Red flag, red flag.
Any time anything goes missing or someone gets hurt or killed, you know, it’s a red flag.
David: Do you think there’s any relationship between this story of the church with the being in paper labeled “El Diablo” and the corpse that ended up in the movie “Sirius”, or are those two separate things?
Emery: You’re talking about the Ata? The Ata?
Emery: No, that’s the Ata.
David: Oh, that is?
Emery: That is the Ata.
David: So did the church hold onto it all that time?
Emery: Yes. The church held onto it.
Emery: The priest held onto it many, many years. He knew it was very, very important. And then he made a deal with someone.
I know the U.S. government already had samples of this somehow. So in the exchange somewhere, there was this civilian person, the priest, who had access to it. And then a private organization went down there and purchased the being from him, and now it’s in an underground facility near Barcelona being studied.
And many new papers are coming out. I know they’re printing so much stuff.
My own opinion, I think they got a little bit infiltrated and maybe paid off because of some of the things that are being said now over from their people in Europe.
But, you know, like I said, we don’t know. It’s all speculation, because anything can be made to be disinformed.
David: “Sirius” itself kind of ends on a down, because we’re talking to Theodore Lockman; we’re talking to Garry Nolan. The whole movie establishes that this is a credible non-human – normal human, at least – thing.
And then at the end, it kind of seems like the film says, “Oh, well, it’s not really that big of a deal”. It’s very strange.
Emery: That’s very strange, yeah. Why is that? The biggest story in the world and no one wants to hear about it.
So, yeah, I would say, “Hm”. That’s all I can say about that.
David: Right. So another thing that I find fascinating is “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” in, I don’t know, 1940s, 1950s, somewhere thereabouts, had this thing called “AttaBoy”.
And it’s just like the Atacama humanoid – same size.
The only real difference is that the head is a little more bulbous in this way [round] . . .
Emery: I saw that, yeah.
David: . . . as opposed to the way the other one looks.
Emery: Yeah, I saw that one.
David: It’s so similar in many other ways. Do you think that’s from the same species or a similar species?
Emery: No, I don’t believe so. No. No. Yeah, there’s too many differences.
I did look at that at one time closely. So I don’t believe it’s from the same lineage or phenotype at all.
David: But do you think it might possibly be extraterrestrial also in its own way?
Emery: Without actually making a . . . bringing the proper test, I couldn’t speculate.
Emery: It wouldn’t be fair.
David: So another thing was these edifices that the people on Easter Island wore on a necklace.
Emery: Right, yeah.
David: And when you look at the necklace, when you look at the body of this thing, it looks exactly like what you autopsied in “Sirius”.
The only difference is that the face is kind of a stylized human face. It’s got these large, round eyes, large kind of nose and mouth.
So it is kind of an exaggerated human face with large eyes.
Emery: Uh-huh.With every passing day, Antarctica is garnering more attention from mainstream and alternative news sources, alike. Emery Smith urges, that as the ice melts, the secrets at the south pole will no longer be contained. What is being disclosed now, in Egypt as well as Antarctica is just the tip of the iceberg as ground penetrating radar is discovering large voids. Although we are being told of the great voids, what is in those voids is being withheld. Now, new reports of tunnels in South America, as well as strange beings, such as the Nazca Mummies and Atacama Humanoids, found in these locations are coming to light. Emery Smith fills in the gaps of withheld information with his insider’s view on what is really taking place under the Antarctic ice. This interview with David Wilcock was originally webcast January 30, 2018.
David: That part looks wrong. But the body is absolutely dead-on.
And those Easter Island people are saying that these were the givers of wisdom and knowledge.
Emery: Right. I think there’s a connection.
David: What do you think is going on?
Emery: I do think there is a connection with that. Like I said, I don’t know enough about their history. I just know, from learning from you about that story and seeing some of these pictures a while back, that there is correlation, for the body, that is.
And whether the bodies are replicas or they’re the actual bodies that were mummified, you know, swelling happens during mummification sometimes, depending on where it’s buried and what it’s buried in.
And things can change and misform different body parts, especially with the skeleton, into different . . .
Emery: Just like fossils, you know, if they’re in certain minerals, when they form over time, they’ll take on a different color and shape.
So it’s a very interesting thing when you look at mummies and how they’re buried, where they’re buried, the temperature, the humidity, and then all these other factors that fall into place. And the same thing happens with these beings.
So I can see why you’re asking these questions, because they are similar in many ways, but they’re also . . . There’s differences. And without actually having all three of them right there, for me to say.
But I do agree with you that the bodies are very similar.
David: All right. Well, I want to thank you. This has been very fascinating, and we will have more in store.
David: So thanks for being here.
Emery: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
David: And thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with our special guest, Emery Smith.